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Introduction

Caliber is a new Monero fork, one of the most respectable cryptocurrency well-known for security, privacy, untraceability. Caliber implements Bulletproofs from network launch. This combined with 4 minute block times (2x that of Monero) results in a significantly smaller chain. Estimated to be 1/10th - 1/20th of the size of the Monero blockchain pre-bulletproofs.

This is crucial to help promote decentralization as most users on pre Bulletproof blockchains have moved from local node to remote nodes.


Economics

All other Cryptonote coin emission curves are flawed by design as the coin value bleeds due to extreme early inflation after initial launch even with increasing market-cap. This is catastrophic for the early investor and adoption as a whole. Caliber implements a custom supply curve slowing the rate of inflation significantly to not hurt any investors.

The reward for the first 10,000 blocks starts at 8.7 CAL. Afterwards this will reduce to 2.1 CAL per block.



Caliber Payroom

The first platform for the Caliber network developed by the core team is Payroom. A completely private chat app + Caliber Cryptocurrency wallet. This allows our users to be able to find other Caliber users to chat with and transfer Caliber coins to pay for Goods and services.

Caliber Payroom leverages its technology from two of the best open source projects: Signal and Monero. Taking the best from both projects and combining them creates the best private communication and payment system all in one. Send messages to a Caliber wallet address via Caliber Payroom and pay them directly.


Network Statistics:

Ticker: CAL
Mining Algorithm: CryptoNight V8
Blocktime: 4 Minutes
Total Supply: 18,400,000 coins before tail emission
 
In depth emission information compared to BTC and XMR can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FmZm9-YP0W6j_ccZkskca-AaUw9QYF5O6sNk0tAoQl8/edit?usp=sharing

Genesis Block: 180,000 CAL (0.97% of the total supply)


Wallet Links:

Windows GUI: https://github.com/caliber-cash/caliber/releases/download/v1.0/caliber-wallet-gui-cli-win64-v1.zip
MacOS: coming soon
Linux: Clone from Github: https://github.com/caliber-cash/caliber.git

Remote Node: node.caliber.cash:19871

How to Mine:

CPU: Run caliberd. Once you are in sync, open the caliber-wallet-cli. Create or open and existing wallet. Type “start_mining”. Specify 2 threads or more like so: “start_mining 2”

GPU Mining: https://github.com/fireice-uk/xmr-stak/releases
Use CryptoNight V8.


Community Mining Pools:

https://caliber.luckypool.io/
https://crypto9coin.cf/cal/
https://cal.go-mine.it/
https://cal.codpool.com/
https://caliber.modpool.org/

Post below if you have made a Caliber pool and we will add this in here
Make sure you set your Caliber pool algo to CryptoNight V8 from v1 with no auto switching code inherited from an existing Monero pool.

In order to promote decentralization, the development team is not planning on running official pools. If required this will be organized.

Links:

Discord: https://discord.gg/24gjv5f
Twitter: https://twitter.com/calibercash?lang=en
Github: https://github.com/caliber-cash
Explorer: https://explorer.caliber.cash/

https://crypto9coin.cf/cal/
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Welcome to Caliber Mining Pool @ LuckyPool.IO

URL: https://caliber.luckypool.io
How to mine: https://caliber.luckypool.io/how-to-mine
Statrum url: caliber.luckypool.io
Ports: 5566, 5577, 5588, 5599
Algo: CryptoNight v8

Pool features:
* Support all address type (integrated, subaddress, payment id)
* Support worker, just fill password by worker name
* Per worker hashrate chart
* Email notification when rig stop hashing
* Custom payout threshold
* Reward distribution log
* Discord support: https://discord.gg/v9M44DJ

Miner App:

CastXMR 1.5.0+ add --algo=10
xmr-stak 2.5.1 set currency to cryptonight_v8
SRBMiner 1.6.8 set algo to normalv8

Happy Mining

Another pool here:

https://cal.go-mine.it/

- PPLNS payout system
- Small fees
- Adjustable payouts
- Individual worker stats
- NiceHash support
- XNP support
- E-mail notifications
- SSL ports
- Dedicated Discord support channel
- And much much more...

JOIN US NAO!! ;)

Hey, a good PoW ninja launch! #looksgoodwillmine

Wallet is not synchronized

Nice. Will play with this a bit #HashOn

is it for private payments only? will check its in-depth info i might mine this.

I hope the developer can immediately release the caliber payroom earlier this year or it can be faster and I am excited to wait for Windows Beta, Android Alpha and your iOS Alpha.

throwing some hash at this, best of luck :)

Unfortunately it seems you didn't take into account how people would behave regarding the first minable blocks.
You have individuals (a few or many) attacking your coin by (what appears to be) using nicehash or the like.

You have the largest pool showing a pool hashrate of 3MH+, while the network registers as 1.5MH+.  It's the same attack pattern that hit electroneum.  Massive hash hit, with tons of solved blocks.. then it slows down to rougly 1.3MH to 1.4MH on the pool for a short while and another spike.

You have a small number of people scooping up all the coins so they can create a master node (or multiple master nodes?) or do a mass sell off when the coin reaches a profitable level.

Quite the unfortunate start that can cause the derailment of the coin as a desirable mining prospect.

I am wondering why this coin has fewer people in the post, but the hashrate is very fast increasing to 2M.

New pool: https://cal.leafpool.com/

It didn't seem to be an attack. The chain split off into 5 alternate chains at some point because of the very rapid increase of hash on the network. Its really not that much out the ordinary. Also Caliber has no Masternodes...

In which exchanges you plan to list?

this is virustotal analysis for the windows wallet:
https://www.virustotal.com/pt/file/3a92ea2b8ad91b49878c988f8152d3870eb558da95d6a90bf0b88168a5c5ee20/analysis/
3/53 but only coinminers.

   a variant of Win64/CoinMiner.MW potentially unwanted
   Win64.Application.Monerominer.A
        PUF.CoinMiner!8.4639 (TFE:6:XTUXsZaUHCR)

nice launch for new coin.

if you want thailand translation PM to me.

Private Chat + Cryptocurrency, is a combination that certainly represents one of the great trends! More and more users on the mobile screen. Dev, I'll be waiting for a blockexplorer and do not forget TradeOgre.

Feels like old times!

explorer available from launch :) https://explorer.caliber.cash/
TradeOgre does seems like a good option

The nethash is around 3M, and it's a very good beginning.

The only other time I've seen massive spikes like this (and it was a number of individuals exploiting the lack of hash via hashing services) was Electronium when they finally forked to CN7.  Some individuals were hitting the network hard when the difficulty lowered, grabbed the coins then waited for it to lower again (leaving all the GPU miners to work through the difficult blocks).  With the current increase/decrease wave it resembles the same.

Even this morning I watched the network go from 4M to 2M and looking at the graph it's been like that (major diff in hills and valleys for hash rates) the entire weekend.


I'm newer to joining recently released coins... have any informative material on the chain splitting because of the hash rate?  (or anything really useful to explain it?)
Info is kinda all over the place when it comes to coins in general.

I have questions about the same as the person above me.

Contrary to my username I am not wise about chain splitting and the like but I've been mining since block 300 something on LuckPool and the Pool hash fluctuates rapidly up and down but usually the pool hash rate shows as 2x higher than the whole network.

I'm not sure exactly what this is. If it is as simple as stated by developer then can someone please just explain to us like we're tards? lmao

I'm still mining, absolutely love the coin and am absolutely hoping and rooting for the best. I'm just too inexperienced of a miner to know what that truly is. I've mined 5-7 coins and never seen that happen. I just REALLY hope it doesn't actually have a negative impact on launch towards a free and decentralized start. I suppose that's where my concern lies is all.

Would just appreciate a slightly more detailed laymen's answer.

Created an account finally just to ask for clarity. I really hope there's nothing wrong as I was/am lucky enough to catch the first wave of mining and this concept is really solid as a crypto with a lot already working.

I was referring to the fact that the network was actually getting stuck - worst one was 2 hours without a block. There was a lot of hash at this time and the difficulty was still very low. The hash was spread between 2 pools and they were finding blocks faster than they could sync with eachother resulting in multipule alternate chains. Its took a while for the longest chain with the most work to win out. It was working as it was supposed to.

Good Morning All,

Once I go through the linux setup, what is the command to start the wallet?

I read its in /bin and I looked for caliberd but Im a greenhorn and a little lost.

Is there a idiots guide to mining / setup for ubuntu?

Ahhhh ok this makes far more sense to me. Especially since I also noticed the blockchain locking up for 2-4 hours at a time while mining on a few occasions. Thank you very much for the response!

what is the minimum payout?

Oh boy this one is stupidly hard to mine. Doesn't prevent me from trying but uh oh.

Go to the payments tab, has it listed there.

It was 2.0 at the start, but it was lowered to 0.2 last I checked.

Looks good, I don't mine though. Any exchanges soon? Tradeogre?

In Caliber Payroom the conversations and the identity of the users will also maintain the premises of the project, that is, guarantee privacy?

Just set up the Windows GUI wallet and it says "Monero" where it should say "Caliber" on the screen about whether to connect to network or not.

https://i.imgur.com/esZ3k5o.png

Brand new coin, Wallet and Monero fork. Technically saying "Monero" in place of "Caliber" is only technically wrong anyway lmao.

I'm sure it will get changed to Caliber unless they choose to keep it for some reason after everything is in motion.

But yo uare using the correct wallet and it will still work, I promise. I've set 2 up and recovered 1 already.

Thank you for the explanation.  It makes sense what you said about multiple alternate chains...

Does Caliber have a plan to deal with 51% attacks? With the network hash rate as low as it is, it is susceptible (and appears to be under attack since nearly the start).  Regardless of it being a couple of whales, or simply rented hash the network occasionally goes from 2M to 4M on a single pool.  Since it's mostly on a pool, it doesn't seem like it's someone intentionally attacking in that way, but more of an opportunist trying to gain as many coins early on as possible. 

Look at the hashrate graph on https://caliber.luckypool.io/
You can see that The hash rate was 1.88MH at 06:20+09:00 and jumped to 5.14MH by 07:53+09:00.  It returned to 2.14MH at 08:55+09:00.  From there it continues with these spikes (not nearly as great as that one).  On cryptonightv8 1MH is a lot of computing power, so it's some combination of farms or rented hash that is likely causing these fluctuations. In turn that drives the difficulty up and when the hashing power suddenly drops off it leaves the rest of us to fight through.

Does Caliber have any plans on how to deal with the current volatility (or does this volatility not affect the coin in any negative way?)

Thanks for letting us know :)

Still wouldn't consider anything that has happened to be an attack. Most likely just early investors nicehashing legitimately.

However there is concern for attack after Caliber is listed on an exchange because would be 51% attackers could rent the power required. Will have to monitor the network hash.
One good option is to switch to a mining algorithm where there isn't enough hash to rent for 51%. However lots of coins are technically at risk right now by this method and don't have any issues.

The lower the nethash, the bigger the risk and lower the cost of attack.

I will dedicate some time to working on this. I'd rather have the piece of mind.

do you see any advantages on changing the minimum payouts? makes sense to make it bigger than 2 so you have less frequent payouts but saves on transfer taxes?

Is there any point cpu mining with availability of GPU or are they balanced such that both are worthwhile?

not much point in CPU mining you will get about 1 CAL a day with a decent 16 core CPU. Even if this coin magically began trading at $1 it's still not even enough to cover electricity costs per month. 

That being said, most people currently speculative mine at a loss or close to break even in hopes of a drastic price increase once the coin is 'discovered' by the sheep

What else do you expect when the rewards drop from 8.7 in first 10k blocks to 2.1?

Legitimately nicehashing would result in consistant nethash over a prolonged period of time (adding to network stability).
There is consitant doubling of hash power on the official server for short bursts (which looks like early investors trying to grab large amounts of coin... with over half the network hash rate on their side).

I'm still contributing my rig to the network, but those 'early investors' are not in it to help the network.
I don't know if there is any real way to deal with this issue other than get more on board to mine.. but I hope you are looking at ways to at least prevent massive spikes like the ones we are seeing often.

http://cryptoknight.cc/caliber/

Not intending to speculate too much; however when looking at this from a simple supply and demand perspective there is less coins being introduced into the supply and the demand isn't going to change because of this. This is intended to have a positive effect on the price to avoid price bleeding out

im having issues with the daemon running. any remote node i can run?

node.caliber.cash:19871
what issues are you having though?

my wallet has been running for a few days without issues

then yesterday daemon failed to start:
"please check your wallet daemon log for errors. You can also try to start calibred.exe manually"

remote node is working..

quality project! looking forward to exchanges :)

 How does this compare to Loki ? meaning, in terms of future development ideals?

and so you can mine it with http://cryptonightv8.com easily.

Might be as simple as antivirus deleted caliberd? Happened to me and many others too

Premine is pretty big imho it's about same size as 2/3 of yearly pow phase  :o

List of Caliber mining pools with live stats & hashrate distribution

https://miningpoolstats.stream/caliber

it's just too hard to mine. Is not worth it

Is CPU mining still viable or is it pointless?

I still use a lot for now. now it's a lot of web mining which in my opinion is easier and doesn't need to upgrade a real hardware. but basically everything can still be used and profitable.

but for CAL CPU mining is paying quite little, right?
maybe less than 1 CAL per day?

Are you talking about cloud mining? Like using services such as Azure/DO/AWS?

for mining with CPU ... it say to me that he could not connect to Damon ... I set the remote node :
on address I put : node.caliber.cash    .... on Port 19871   . It's Right ??
Thank you in advance

Any price predictions of this new coin?  I'll throw out a guess, $2.15 USD / CAL.  What do you think?

Any exchanges that list CAL yet?

no exchange yet but there are some OTC trades happening on discord

always use a escrow.

a couple weeks ago it was going for 25k sats but now people trying to OTC for 40k+ sats. a bit ridiculous but i guess might make sense if block reward decreasing from 8 to 2 soon.

not ridiculous at all taking into account that hashrate kinda tripled from last week
;)

holy mother of speculation batman.^^

This has to hit 3-5$ dollars now to remain profitable to mine from here.
GL
keep watching this from sidelines.

Hello Guys, I have been trying to mine with a couples 1060 and its been imposible so far. I always got the same error "low difficulty share" with one of the miners (XMRig) and when I try to use XMR Stak the miner star run good but just taking my CPU power without touch my cards. Any advice?
Im really interestd in this project.

Thank you all for the help

use cryptodredge miner .. super easy to use

when i'm building from the source code, I have the compile error
"[ 77%] Building CXX object src/wallet/CMakeFiles/obj_wallet.dir/wallet2.cpp.o
c++: internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1plus)
Please submit a full bug report,
with preprocessed source if appropriate.
See <file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-5/README.Bugs> for instructions.
src/wallet/CMakeFiles/obj_wallet.dir/build.make:62: recipe for target 'src/wallet/CMakeFiles/obj_wallet.dir/wallet2.cpp.o' failed
"

Could you please help to take a look at this issue

Reward succesfully dropped from 8.59 to 2.15 CAL per block

And on the very day the market crashed!  WOW!  SUCH TIMING...SUCH CAL!  Bulletproof!

no update or message from travis in a full week and still no clarity on premine.. what does this guy have up his sleeve ?

is it dead yet?

Dev has not been active since November 14, did he abandon Caliber? ::)

Guys, how about the exchange?

did you really think that he would do everything that was written in the roadmap?  :D :D :D

is it still possible to solo mine via the wallet? Or is it basically never going to happen... :)

It's possible.  I set up a VPS node about a week after coin launch, only $5 a month, but wanted to try it out.  Set up the daemon, set up solo mining through the wallet at a whopping 35 hashes per second.  Finally found a block recently for about 2.15 CAL.  So it is possible, but you'll be waiting for a long time with no results.  Join a pool, that's the easiest.

Is the coin dead ?

Hey? What are the exchanges gonna be? Would like to know before pushing some hashing power towards this project

If your still interested, An exchange for caliber was just opened and accepting deposits at First Crypto Bank....

i mined on caliber.luckypool.io pool until reaching 0.4 CAL.
In my "your stats" page it tells me i have recieved payment but nothing appears on my wallet (it appears synced). Some suggestion?

What is your CAL payment address?

The dev has been missing since November, it is very likely that this is abandoned.

restore wallet from seed and it'll show up
(send some merit if it's helpfull ;) )


his last post on discord was on december 5th