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In this thread I will never offend or discriminate against a crypto project, if one of the crypto projects goes the same way as in this thread, well Im so sorry

I feel sorry for the past few months that many ICO investors and bounty hunters have had problems with the crypto projects they support. This is related to the distribution of tokens and listed in the exchange which is always postponed due to bear market problems, of course in my opinion that is the reason that is only made to increase popularity because it is increasingly blasphemed with so many people who are interested and curious (one of the marketing techniques which is weird but believe me its work)

But what I have noticed here is the reason for the bear market, well, they assume that if they force it to be able to listing as soon as possible, then what happens is a massive dump and will never be able to rise. This is strange, none of the crypto currency does not experience a dump.

Of course this is a strange reason if the developer is a professional in the world of economics and crypto, why? Because many new altcoins are listing in the exchange, they experience a dump but manage to rise again.

Reasons to avoid losses on the part of investors, really? Investor loss or loss from the Developer? I'm not sure they think of investors and bounty participants, how do you think about the project problem like this?

Actually and sadly, some ICOs also decide the same. There are some ICOs that are extended from July to September and extended again until November. And they don't give chance for us to qut and still save the stakes. Can you imagine that? Then, there are also some ICO that extend the time they will distribute the tokens. Many of them tell that it is due to the market that is very down. I only hope that whatever, we must get the rewards with fair.

True, but this process, from the initial dump to the rise, is much longer now, it takes much more time, and in the meantime they have to deal with negativity and complaints from the investors, maybe this is what they are trying to avoid.

Although this kind of argument does have some weight as they do not want the investors to loose confidence in their project due to bearish market but personally i think their should not be any forceful restriction or anything like that because it is against the decentralized concept of crypto, let the market decide the outcome team should not interfere, if the project turns out well price will surely grow in the long term.

Many ICOs use the bear market as an excuse not to list their tokens on exchanges and get some additional time.
For good projects it does not matter what kind of market we have, there would  be demand for the tokens and price would increase.

avoid that I think it is impossible, every project even the best will still get complaints from investors regarding their prices, I don't think that is the most appropriate reason, maybe because they feel if forcing to register now, without doing anything they will lose because Ethereum prices are much lower. of course this is a risk they must think about before launching a project

You might be right if they have a really good project. I think a little complaint will have no effect, even though you have to list the current market conditions, smart investors who have a strong influence in the crypto currencies industry will know which ones they should support or which ones. must be abandoned, if they have a good development right after they listing it certainly will not be lupus from dumping by investors who want quick profits and participant bounty who are impatient to get a reward from what they have done, it is normal and immediately after that everything will be better, but on condition the project has a good and continuing team and development

They really don't consider investors and bounty hunters. This is a cruel market. It takes time and energy and money for the project parties to release their own coins. Their purpose is to make money. If they are listed on the bear market, they will definitely lose money, so I feel that waiting for the bull market to come back to the market is a good choice, it is good for everyone.

of course that is a very annoying thing for all participants, but what they can do, besides doing a lot of complaints, which actually increases the popularity of the project, and waits until it is listed on the exchange, it's not unusual for now, many projects do that instead try to raise ratings and marketing, participants are only stuck with the less fun project

if some project has some underlying value then their team should not worry about the market sentiments such as bear market or bull market because that is not the thing that affects a real good project! for example you never worry about bitcoin's future just because there is a bear market.

but when the altcoin developers know their project is so bad that they need the hype to pump it up and they know for sure that if the general bullishness of the market is not present with hundreds of newbies wasting their money, then there is no chance for their useless token to survive.

What you said is true and presented in a very analytical manner. We can certainly not blame the ICOs for not listing on the exchange on the bear market as it will lead them to face some significant amount of loss. We can only wait for the bull market to arrive and then the ICOs will start the listing on exchanges.

I have found many ICO projects running like this that always delay their projects in exchange, I think it is clear investors will feel disadvantaged by the actions of the project developer because the investor's intention to invest ICO certainly benefits from the project.

If the project is good, it would do well despite the market situation. But to minimize risk I think its a good strategy to wait for the market to enter in the bull run.

That's a joke, these ico creators must learn about how to protect their token. bear market has been playing an important role to make the price gets dumped a lot but remember if they are no selling their token with a huge bonus and then these pre-sale participants will never try to dump it or at least they must think for a twice before take any decision.

This kind of case is will just make the ICO lose its investors resulting to sudden failure. Everyone in the world of cryptocurrency expects their coins to be listed in exchanges especially those in the top exchange sites as it would make the market rise and the trading of coins active. And when its active it means the community are actively investing.

Now almost all the projects carry lists and do what I think is right. Those projects that went on the stock exchange lost 80-90% of the cost. It is better to wait until the market stops falling and stabilizes.

I invested in four projects that are giving same excuse of why they are yet to be listed. To me, I don't think is a good argument because it is against the decentralized concept of Cryptocurrency. It is a sole responsibility of an holder for either to dump or hold a token.

There may be some projects that hold back from being listed in exchange for this reason. And there are also those who put it in exchange for current market conditions. I think there is nothing wrong with the project listing the current market conditions

Honestly, I do not like such a decision from the team members, because this causes doubts in a project. But on the other hand, I can totally understand, why ICOs are doing so. Due to the market, there is a lack of investors right now and a lot of dumpers.

In this state the prices of tokens are falling like shares in a bear market. A massive crypto dump is imminent but this is uncalled-for. Hoping the situation gets the proper limelight.

In my opinion, the first buzz attracts a lot of small time investors who expects a lot from ICO and try to become rich overnight and when this expectations are not met a mass dump happens. But the ICOs which shows new innovations and makes proper business model always survives.

I think the initial hype generates overly ambitious expectation. People are desperate for a getaway coin. And whenever a coin doesn't live upto this expectation, it gets dumped massively. But I dont think legit innovative projects should stress too much mostly because people nowadays dont put all eggs in one basket.

Generally a lot of people get attracted at the beginning. If the project doesn't live up to the expectation, the obvious result is downfall. But if the project is good enough it will get the positive result.

It is quite understandable that must projects are taking this option. A project that values its idea wouldn't want to list in these conditions. It is highly likely that once a token gets listed in this market conditions, it might never recover the dip and thus, devaluing the project. Delaying listing is just a way to preserve the value of the project which should be the sole purpose of the developers.

I have promoted a lot of projects and some of them until now don't get listed in a decent exchange. And mostly they answered "will not be listed yet due to current market condition" and I don't buy it. Some developers are being to shy or hesitant to say the truth that they don't have enough money and the ICO wasn't that successful. And salute to other projects even though they don't also collect enough funds, they are honest to the investors and bounty hunters.

of course, this upsets many participants, everyone is looking forward to the listing, but I believe that some projects are not in a hurry to go to the stock exchange themselves.

This mainly happened to those overrated coins that actually have zero utilities but people are still buying it anyway. If the coin is really useful it won't lose its value that easily regardless of the bearish market.
However,ICOs that can't reach cap usually lost its value in an instant though.

It shows a lack of faith in your project. Choosing not to list because of market conditions is an indication that you think the only way your token can do well is during times of irrational exuberance. Hate to be the bearer of bad new but 2017 is never coming back. What you see now is the new normal and it is not in any hurry to change from here.

in my opinion delaying listings on the exchange due bear market conditions maybe only their reasons
even though they have enough funds to pay exchange listing fee but there is no guarantee they can be accepted because each exchange has a different provision
for example is Bittrex, they don't want to listing an equity-based platform that doesn't have a good product that can make the token value grow (just highlight on the revenue sharing system to users)

The current trend whereby ICOs delay exchange and every other plans as it is clearly outlined on the roadmap is a cheap excuse by some unserious devs capitalising on the bearish market and because of that keeps extending ICOs which is needless if their ideas are genuine and can compete in the market.. If the project is good it can list on exchange and investors will still buy because in the long run the coin will grow as long as implementation is taking with utmost importance, some coin dump because the team abandon their projects

I agree with you, most new projects are afraid of dumps, whatever their reasons why they are afraid of it. Even if we think of logic, coins or any tokens I can be in a dumper at any time. Without wanting to offend other parties, I don't think they care about the discussion in this forum, because basically they use this forum only for promotional events, not for discussion.

Many projects have delayed listing on exchanges at this time as a right decision because they know that investors who may be trying to sell their tokens will cause the project to fall into disrepair. Due to insufficient liquidity, delaying listing on exchanges will be the right decision.