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Title: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: krystaltoken on October 21, 2018, 08:25:33 PM
The promise of crypto was freedom, not more politics.
Yet another tale of drama was revealed in the blockchain world some weeks ago, this time for Sia. This is following endless infighting over the years amongst camps trying to take control the future of money — from Bitcoin debates with Roger Ver, to hardforks in Ethereum, and flat out scams in ICOs.

This was not the future we were promised. Remember the days when we pontificated about how crypto would eliminate petty human things, like pride, power, and politics? That it would make the world a better place, not just more of the same? Yet now, crypto drama is often nastier.

So what happened?

Greed. People are just trying to make power grabs as the financial coup occurs, revolting from some tyrants, in attempts to become the next tyrants. This will not make the world better.
We need to return to our roots, which is that the future of money is decentralization — money not controlled by any one, group, or whole. Instead, money that is controlled by nobody, yet everybody at the same time.

How do you do this?
 
Governments are built on economic philosophies. Therefore, the most important piece is for a “system designer” to create an algorithm that they set in stone as the economic model of the cryptocurrency.

You can think of this ? That is back to politics.

1.   Second, because there is no land that citizens occupy in the crypto world, secession is purely voluntary and can’t spark resource wars — unless people still care about those digitally scarce resources, in which case, the economics of that system are still winning.

Okay, but really, what if we discover a better system?

Then great! A better system must always absorb the previous system, like Einsteinian physics and Newtonian physics. In this case, if your new system is actually better, then it needs to also provide an upgrade path for people to migrate forward.
And let us be clear here, this means if you are forking a system, then all those people get to keep their coins. No “haha suckers you’re too late to the party” attitudes. You ought not use it to give yourself an unfair advantage.

If a group of people had power in the previous version, and if someone simply doesn’t like that, then forking them out of existence is going to be win-lose. Having such a win-lose system will necessarily lose out to any game designer who can create win+win systems. In fact, additive-only mechanics are the inevitable and only long term sustainable and viable solutions.
Just think about the economics of it! Now go build one.

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source: https://hackernoon.com/governance-is-killing-blockchain-df3bfeb537f6


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: dodgecharger on October 22, 2018, 03:17:13 AM
The promise of crypto was freedom, not more politics.
Yet another tale of drama was revealed in the blockchain world some weeks ago, this time for Sia. This is following endless infighting over the years amongst camps trying to take control the future of money — from Bitcoin debates with Roger Ver, to hardforks in Ethereum, and flat out scams in ICOs.

This was not the future we were promised. Remember the days when we pontificated about how crypto would eliminate petty human things, like pride, power, and politics? That it would make the world a better place, not just more of the same? Yet now, crypto drama is often nastier.

So what happened?

Greed. People are just trying to make power grabs as the financial coup occurs, revolting from some tyrants, in attempts to become the next tyrants. This will not make the world better.
We need to return to our roots, which is that the future of money is decentralization — money not controlled by any one, group, or whole. Instead, money that is controlled by nobody, yet everybody at the same time.

How do you do this?
 
Governments are built on economic philosophies. Therefore, the most important piece is for a “system designer” to create an algorithm that they set in stone as the economic model of the cryptocurrency.

You can think of this ? That is back to politics.

1.   Second, because there is no land that citizens occupy in the crypto world, secession is purely voluntary and can’t spark resource wars — unless people still care about those digitally scarce resources, in which case, the economics of that system are still winning.

Okay, but really, what if we discover a better system?

Then great! A better system must always absorb the previous system, like Einsteinian physics and Newtonian physics. In this case, if your new system is actually better, then it needs to also provide an upgrade path for people to migrate forward.
And let us be clear here, this means if you are forking a system, then all those people get to keep their coins. No “haha suckers you’re too late to the party” attitudes. You ought not use it to give yourself an unfair advantage.

If a group of people had power in the previous version, and if someone simply doesn’t like that, then forking them out of existence is going to be win-lose. Having such a win-lose system will necessarily lose out to any game designer who can create win+win systems. In fact, additive-only mechanics are the inevitable and only long term sustainable and viable solutions.
Just think about the economics of it! Now go build one.

If you enjoyed this article, it would mean a lot if you click and share with friends!

The government will not intervene in promising blockchain projects. The government will crack down on the use of blockchains for fraudulent projects, with the aim of facilitating the healthy development of blockchains.


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: lifesgood10 on October 24, 2018, 06:38:51 AM
Governance has little impacts as regards Blockchain technology
Naturally it is difficult to make people understand basic developments in a short period of time
And that is what our government are facing

They are worried about the safety of their citizens
Worried about money laundering
Worried about existence of banks

It’s going to succeed but it’s going to take a while


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: Bttzed03 on October 24, 2018, 06:49:31 AM
Good article.
Are you the one who wrote it?
Or you just copied from this source https://hackernoon.com/governance-is-killing-blockchain-df3bfeb537f6 ?
If you only copied the content, I suggest you include the source where you got it from because that's plagiarism.


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: qiman on October 24, 2018, 06:54:17 AM
Very interesting article but to be honest people holding bags of this and that will never see a MOON or a LAMBO, without some regulation and safety for bigger investors to come into this sphere. Blockchain technology will become sometime the Masses will get used to 5-10 years form now, so if we want mass adoption, there will be some governance to a degree or regulation at least, that is inevitable. I can't see the whole world hosting revolutions against their governments and the banks, it just won't happen, but what we can do now is share a bit of the big pie that is coming in the next bull run to 'free ourselves' from poverty.


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: HardFireMiner on October 24, 2018, 07:04:07 AM
Generally speaking, you can't kill what you do not control, manage, have influence on, so short answer is NO, governance can't kill a technology i.e. Blockchain without totally replacing it or/and make it's security vulnerable.


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: Suwycu on October 24, 2018, 07:31:03 AM
Perhaps you are right and governments will try to take advantage of their position and try to influence this technology!


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: Herbert2020 on October 24, 2018, 07:32:22 AM
everybody wants money and unfortunately cryptocurrencies have been providing that to a lot of people in a very easy manner. all the things you mentioned here such as Roger Ver's take over attempt, Ethereum fork,... are to make more money. they even created coins to make money, tokens such as Ethereum was made to make certain people millionaires overnight, fork coins like bitcoin cash was created to "create" money out of thin air in an instant.

this is inevitable. the only thing that users can do is find the decentralization that a currency like bitcoin has and then stick to it and stay unmoved no matter what is thrown at them. and that has been what we have been doing so far with bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: leea-1334 on October 24, 2018, 07:41:39 AM
Seems people do not realize the difference anymore in crypto. We always talk about crypto and the idealism, but honestly I find people know very little. I even still have a few people think that mining crypto is actually awarded with physical coins! When they cannot even understand the basic architecture how do we educate about governance? Worse, people prefer governance and centralized politics!

Good article.
Are you the one who wrote it?
Or you just copied from this source https://hackernoon.com/governance-is-killing-blockchain-df3bfeb537f6 ?
If you only copied the content, I suggest you include the source where you got it from because that's plagiarism.

Second that. Even if you did write it, you should at least provide the original link, gets more traffic and lets people know you are not a plagirizer,,, which can get you banned in forum!


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: juragankambing on October 24, 2018, 08:34:00 AM
The promise of crypto was freedom, not more politics.
Yet another tale of drama was revealed in the blockchain world some weeks ago, this time for Sia. This is following endless infighting over the years amongst camps trying to take control the future of money — from Bitcoin debates with Roger Ver, to hardforks in Ethereum, and flat out scams in ICOs.

This was not the future we were promised. Remember the days when we pontificated about how crypto would eliminate petty human things, like pride, power, and politics? That it would make the world a better place, not just more of the same? Yet now, crypto drama is often nastier.

So what happened?

Greed. People are just trying to make power grabs as the financial coup occurs, revolting from some tyrants, in attempts to become the next tyrants. This will not make the world better.
We need to return to our roots, which is that the future of money is decentralization — money not controlled by any one, group, or whole. Instead, money that is controlled by nobody, yet everybody at the same time.

How do you do this?
 
Governments are built on economic philosophies. Therefore, the most important piece is for a “system designer” to create an algorithm that they set in stone as the economic model of the cryptocurrency.

You can think of this ? That is back to politics.

1.   Second, because there is no land that citizens occupy in the crypto world, secession is purely voluntary and can’t spark resource wars — unless people still care about those digitally scarce resources, in which case, the economics of that system are still winning.

Okay, but really, what if we discover a better system?

Then great! A better system must always absorb the previous system, like Einsteinian physics and Newtonian physics. In this case, if your new system is actually better, then it needs to also provide an upgrade path for people to migrate forward.
And let us be clear here, this means if you are forking a system, then all those people get to keep their coins. No “haha suckers you’re too late to the party” attitudes. You ought not use it to give yourself an unfair advantage.

If a group of people had power in the previous version, and if someone simply doesn’t like that, then forking them out of existence is going to be win-lose. Having such a win-lose system will necessarily lose out to any game designer who can create win+win systems. In fact, additive-only mechanics are the inevitable and only long term sustainable and viable solutions.
Just think about the economics of it! Now go build one.

If you enjoyed this article, it would mean a lot if you click and share with friends!


each country's view of crypto is certainly different, so it is very difficult for crypto to be well received in every country or government,
crypto is a breakthrough where all transactions are decentralized transparent and very peer to peer and do not require a third party that threatens the existence of third parties,
the government certainly defends and protects third parties that are partly owned by the government.


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: krystaltoken on October 24, 2018, 09:42:26 PM
Seems people do not realize the difference anymore in crypto. We always talk about crypto and the idealism, but honestly I find people know very little. I even still have a few people think that mining crypto is actually awarded with physical coins! When they cannot even understand the basic architecture how do we educate about governance? Worse, people prefer governance and centralized politics!

Good article.
Are you the one who wrote it?
Or you just copied from this source https://hackernoon.com/governance-is-killing-blockchain-df3bfeb537f6 ?
If you only copied the content, I suggest you include the source where you got it from because that's plagiarism.

Second that. Even if you did write it, you should at least provide the original link, gets more traffic and lets people know you are not a plagirizer,,, which can get you banned in forum!





Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: krystaltoken on October 24, 2018, 09:58:18 PM
Seems people do not realize the difference anymore in crypto. We always talk about crypto and the idealism, but honestly I find people know very little. I even still have a few people think that mining crypto is actually awarded with physical coins! When they cannot even understand the basic architecture how do we educate about governance? Worse, people prefer governance and centralized politics!

Good article.
Are you the one who wrote it?
Or you just copied from this source https://hackernoon.com/governance-is-killing-blockchain-df3bfeb537f6 ?
If you only copied the content, I suggest you include the source where you got it from because that's plagiarism.

Second that. Even if you did write it, you should at least provide the original link, gets more traffic and lets people know you are not a plagirizer,,, which can get you banned in forum!


The promise of crypto was freedom, not more politics.
Yet another tale of drama was revealed in the blockchain world some weeks ago, this time for Sia. This is following endless infighting over the years amongst camps trying to take control the future of money — from Bitcoin debates with Roger Ver, to hardforks in Ethereum, and flat out scams in ICOs.

This was not the future we were promised. Remember the days when we pontificated about how crypto would eliminate petty human things, like pride, power, and politics? That it would make the world a better place, not just more of the same? Yet now, crypto drama is often nastier.

So what happened?

Greed. People are just trying to make power grabs as the financial coup occurs, revolting from some tyrants, in attempts to become the next tyrants. This will not make the world better.
We need to return to our roots, which is that the future of money is decentralization — money not controlled by any one, group, or whole. Instead, money that is controlled by nobody, yet everybody at the same time.

How do you do this?
 
Governments are built on economic philosophies. Therefore, the most important piece is for a “system designer” to create an algorithm that they set in stone as the economic model of the cryptocurrency.

You can think of this ? That is back to politics.

1.   Second, because there is no land that citizens occupy in the crypto world, secession is purely voluntary and can’t spark resource wars — unless people still care about those digitally scarce resources, in which case, the economics of that system are still winning.

Okay, but really, what if we discover a better system?

Then great! A better system must always absorb the previous system, like Einsteinian physics and Newtonian physics. In this case, if your new system is actually better, then it needs to also provide an upgrade path for people to migrate forward.
And let us be clear here, this means if you are forking a system, then all those people get to keep their coins. No “haha suckers you’re too late to the party” attitudes. You ought not use it to give yourself an unfair advantage.

If a group of people had power in the previous version, and if someone simply doesn’t like that, then forking them out of existence is going to be win-lose. Having such a win-lose system will necessarily lose out to any game designer who can create win+win systems. In fact, additive-only mechanics are the inevitable and only long term sustainable and viable solutions.
Just think about the economics of it! Now go build one.

If you enjoyed this article, it would mean a lot if you click and share with friends!

source: https://hackernoon.com/governance-is-killing-blockchain-df3bfeb537f6


Thanks for your nice correction, just saw the artictle felt will be good for the Forum never taught of plagiarism. Everyday we learn


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: krystaltoken on October 24, 2018, 10:09:35 PM
Seems people do not realize the difference anymore in crypto. We always talk about crypto and the idealism, but honestly I find people know very little. I even still have a few people think that mining crypto is actually awarded with physical coins! When they cannot even understand the basic architecture how do we educate about governance? Worse, people prefer governance and centralized politics!

Good article.
Are you the one who wrote it?
Or you just copied from this source https://hackernoon.com/governance-is-killing-blockchain-df3bfeb537f6 ?
If you only copied the content, I suggest you include the source where you got it from because that's plagiarism.

Second that. Even if you did write it, you should at least provide the original link, gets more traffic and lets people know you are not a plagirizer,,, which can get you banned in forum!






Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: coinswebid on October 24, 2018, 10:19:13 PM
blockchain is a great technology, so there is no reason for the governance to kill it my friend
but, i believe if governance soon or later will adopt blockchain 


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: Lan75 on October 24, 2018, 10:41:52 PM
blockchain is a great technology, so there is no reason for the governance to kill it my friend
but, i believe if governance soon or later will adopt blockchain 
Yes, i agree with you. Government should adapt the blockchain technology because it is very useful to government transactions. It is fast and transparent so it will minimize or totally eliminate corruption on the government of a country.


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: CuriousGeorge on October 24, 2018, 10:47:46 PM
The promise of crypto was freedom, not more politics.
Yet another tale of drama was revealed in the blockchain world some weeks ago, this time for Sia. This is following endless infighting over the years amongst camps trying to take control the future of money — from Bitcoin debates with Roger Ver, to hardforks in Ethereum, and flat out scams in ICOs.

This was not the future we were promised. Remember the days when we pontificated about how crypto would eliminate petty human things, like pride, power, and politics? That it would make the world a better place, not just more of the same? Yet now, crypto drama is often nastier.

So what happened?

Greed. People are just trying to make power grabs as the financial coup occurs, revolting from some tyrants, in attempts to become the next tyrants. This will not make the world better.
We need to return to our roots, which is that the future of money is decentralization — money not controlled by any one, group, or whole. Instead, money that is controlled by nobody, yet everybody at the same time.

How do you do this?
 
Governments are built on economic philosophies. Therefore, the most important piece is for a “system designer” to create an algorithm that they set in stone as the economic model of the cryptocurrency.

You can think of this ? That is back to politics.

1.   Second, because there is no land that citizens occupy in the crypto world, secession is purely voluntary and can’t spark resource wars — unless people still care about those digitally scarce resources, in which case, the economics of that system are still winning.

Okay, but really, what if we discover a better system?

Then great! A better system must always absorb the previous system, like Einsteinian physics and Newtonian physics. In this case, if your new system is actually better, then it needs to also provide an upgrade path for people to migrate forward.
And let us be clear here, this means if you are forking a system, then all those people get to keep their coins. No “haha suckers you’re too late to the party” attitudes. You ought not use it to give yourself an unfair advantage.

If a group of people had power in the previous version, and if someone simply doesn’t like that, then forking them out of existence is going to be win-lose. Having such a win-lose system will necessarily lose out to any game designer who can create win+win systems. In fact, additive-only mechanics are the inevitable and only long term sustainable and viable solutions.
Just think about the economics of it! Now go build one.

If you enjoyed this article, it would mean a lot if you click and share with friends!

The government will not intervene in promising blockchain projects. The government will crack down on the use of blockchains for fraudulent projects, with the aim of facilitating the healthy development of blockchains.

That's what they have exzpected by creating regulation to the ico, to make it will be more healthy. I just realize the fact it takes a lot of time for them to create the regulation and it may takes annual period for them all.


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: yesyes18 on October 24, 2018, 10:53:48 PM
Very interesting article but to be honest people holding bags of this and that will never see a MOON or a LAMBO, without some regulation and safety for bigger investors to come into this sphere.

Tomme and hiw i see it, i think this year we have seen very good and awesome news more than last year but it's still not bringing in investors. I think maybe the bulls can help bring the when LAMBO term back coz it seems all the good couldn't do anything for us.


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: Aiawyr11 on October 26, 2018, 10:23:15 AM
Governments are killing blockchains to some extent. Many government's reforms and restrictions are against blockchains but the succeeding countries and their governments bears the flag of hope.


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: Greraviel21 on October 26, 2018, 10:23:34 AM
Cryptocurrency changed a lot of people's life by its different features and in the future it might be the key of balancing the economy. Because currently in the fiat system some whales have a lot of money and seems like they are calling the shots. So we, the normal people can see this cryptocurrency as a hope and it doesn't matter how the government acts to it.


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: Legewiel05 on October 26, 2018, 10:23:51 AM
Usually in fiat system, there were only a few people with so much money power. They are the gods of the world as many perceive. But with cryptocurrencies a lot of people have actually changed their life and if this pace goes right, a balance in wealth is not so far away. So, this is actually a beacon for common people no matter how government sees it


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: Rhoenia09 on October 26, 2018, 10:24:09 AM
Cryptocurrency has changed the fate of a lot of people. Not like fiat bitcoin can actually be held by any common people and that brings a possibility to keep the balance.


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: wanted sliter on October 26, 2018, 10:36:57 AM
I think must be a mistake between your 2 defination
blockchain is the technology
and bitcoin is a product of blockchain
blockchain is a revotionary tech, so I don't think they have a reason to deny it.


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: aprilnot on October 26, 2018, 10:37:48 AM
no, instead, Crypto is a technology that disrupts the world financial system. the government has full power over Fiat, but in contrast to crypto the government is difficult to intervene in it.


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: cryptobae10 on October 26, 2018, 10:45:56 AM
Government has not done anything regarding Blockchain yet
They have not even decided, governments are watching observing and learning slowly the benefits and dangers of Blockchain

What is killing the Blockchain??
Greediness and the whales who wants to ruin a lot of pockets for their single wish and desires
Let’s learn and be smart

Always dyor


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: Ladysmith on October 26, 2018, 10:56:55 AM
Government has not done anything regarding Blockchain yet
They have not even decided, governments are watching observing and learning slowly the benefits and dangers of Blockchain

What is killing the Blockchain??
Greediness and the whales who wants to ruin a lot of pockets for their single wish and desires
Let’s learn and be smart

Always dyor

Governments are doing some things regarding Blockchain, most notably Japan.

https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2018/09/03/japan-city-blockchain-voting/

Tsukuba is set to become the country’s first city to trial blockchain-powered digital voting.

But for the most part, yes, it's mostly theoretical and they're just observing.

The problem is that it's impossible to spot an immoral whale from a well-intentioned ICO. Maybe AI will be able to help us out someday soon when it comes to deciphering between the two.


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: Assface16678 on October 26, 2018, 10:59:31 AM
Generally speaking, you can't kill what you do not control, manage, have influence on, so short answer is NO, governance can't kill a technology i.e. Blockchain without totally replacing it or/and make it's security vulnerable.

Got a point. But then there are ways to destroy it not directly. Such as telling negative things about the cryptocurrency that will lead to smaller number of users or investors. We all know that the reason why crypto breathe is because of the people who uses it, and if the government let those people quit crypto then its the end. If and only if they can.


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: thefoex on October 26, 2018, 11:02:24 AM
Never will the government kill blockchain or cryptocurrency. because this technology is the future technology that everyone needs. the government can only make regulations to tighten crypto. but the regulation cannot kill crypto or stop people from following him.


Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
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Title: Re: Is governance Killing Blockchain ?
Post by: terible.hunter on January 09, 2019, 03:36:11 PM
Sorry, but you understand that it is simply impossible, so there is no point in simply saying that the authorities or anyone else can really stick to something in the blochain sphere. So be calm, everything is fine.