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Here are the facts: Dorian

1) Dorian has bad english skills, he used incomplete sentences, bad punctuation, and capitilzation.

2) Dorian denied being Satoshi and said he didn't even know what Bitcoin was until 2 weeks ago

3) Dorian was relatively easy to track down

4) Dorian was working for the U.S government government on classified projects.

5) Dorian is age 64 as of 2014

6) Dorian Nakamoto graduated from California State Polytechnic University in Pomona, Calif., with a degree in physics.
7) The IP from exit point of first transaction with Finey is a dynamic Ip located around Los Angeles

Here are the facts: Satoshi Nakamoto

5) According to Satoshis many posts, he has good english skills

6) Satoshi's age is 38 years old, though most likely age 43 now since he created Bitcoin five years ago, according to the p2pfoundation profile

7) Satoshi used the Tor program to completely hide his Ip Address, so even the admin on this site had no way of tracking him down


#1 theory: Dorian is indeed Satoshi, but playing it off to his amusement, why would someone who worked on classified projects for the U.S Military not have good english skills? The letter he wrote showing his bad english was probably due to him being drunk. He also doesn't want to be in the spotlight, and thus chooses to remain anonymous, although that's gone now.

#2 theory: Dorian is Not Satoshi, Satoshi's p2pfoundation account made an announcement after years of being offline saying," I am not Dorian Nakamoto." The real Satoshi is someone completely different, with Satoshi Nakamot just being a name he made up, to confuse anyone trying to deduce his real identity in the future. He will reveal himself when he feels the time is right.

#3 theory: Satoshi Nakamoto backwards spells otomakan ihsotas which can be translated into Internet Armaggadeon, Satoshi is the the fifth horseman, the Keyboard King, who will bring an end to the internet as we know it.

#4 theory: Satoshi is a a cyborg from the future.



http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A52186
http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/06/satoshi-dorian/
http://mag.newsweek.com/2014/03/14/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto.html

* I'm going by information given from Satoshi's official profile on p2pfoundation and bitcointalk, as well as the information given in the news articles about Dorian nakamoto*

Clearly number 4. From the balance of probabilities.

There is literally no reason to believe Dorian is satoshi over anyone else. Just one reporter decided to randomly pick him, thats all. He COULD be satoshi, but so COULD I. Nobody knows.

Are any of those actually facts ?

All of those tin hat theories are getting boring. People should find some kind of more interesting topic.

This. people please don't believe on all of information, use brain all the time.

It's: otomakan ihsotas backwards, not otomakan ihsotat

and it translates to jack shit.

wtf?
where do you come up with this shit?

Does Dorion have any documented programming skills?

It was created and that's all that matters.

Who is Dorion? You mean Dorian? How can we even take this post seriously if you couldn't spell his name right.

Hmmm and this :

• Dorian Nakamoto graduated from California State Polytechnic University in Pomona, Calif., with a degree in physics.
• The IP from exit point of first transaction with Finey is a dynamic Ip located around Los Angeles
• No famous japanese with the name of Satoshi Nakamoto. So why choose this name ?
• His first name before he changed is Satoshi

Nothing really with this but you have old peoples very smart in computer science/programmation.

Yep a poll would be nice , I however will vote he is not Satoshi

That is the obvious answer , but i'll love to see people having different opinion , and there absurd logic to prove it.

Dorian worked for the U.S Military on things that are now classified. You can assume if you want to, that it involved programming.

Really? How?

This is no fact!

The log of Finey with the first transaction give this dynamic IP:

Polls are pointless.

The mob has already made up their mind although past experience tells me that the mob are normally always wrong.

There is no real evidence in this case.

So you are telling me that mob is wrong here too..! because as far as i know and understood after reading many posts a very higher number of members came to conclusion that Daroin is not the one the world is looking for.
And yeah I agree that polls are not that meaningful as they should be.

Basically you have two claims of fact here, one from the reporter quoting Dorian and one from Dorian directly.

Allegedly, Dorian said to Goodman:  "I am no longer involved in that and cannot discuss it. It’s been turned over to other people."

This statement is consistent with a number of possibilities.

• Goodman is lying
  
• Goodman misunderstood what he said
• Dorian actually said it and intended it to sound like it did, but was lying
• Same, but he was telling the truth

Then there's Dorian's explicit denial of being Satoshi.

• Dorian is not Satoshi and is telling the truth, which is what someone who is not Satoshi would probably do
  
• Dorian is Satoshi and is refusing to admit it, which is what someone who is Satoshi would probably do

In other words, the statements we have combined with who made them and the circumstances are completely consistent with any imaginable set of facts, and there is no particular reason to believe one set of possible facts over another.  In short, we have a lot of noise and no information, making this a fairly typical "news" media incident about personalities rather than facts.

He was talking about engineering, not bitcoin.

Confirming! The reporter randomly picked a man named Satoshi Nakamoto in search of someone named Satoshi Nakamoto, this was done purely by chance with no consideration paid to any other external fact. Heck even you could be named Satoshi Nakamoto!

There is literally no reason to misuse words like random, nobody, and could. There is a real argument to be made about Dorian not founding Bitcoins... I think all of the members of this forum would appreciate a bit more effort.

the reasons are reasonable !! ;) 8) 8)

+1

Another weird Dorian fact....

Love this quote from the AP

Asked if he was technically able to come up with the idea for bitcoin, Nakamoto responded: "Capability? Yes, but any programmer could do that."

How many people are really technically capable?  It has been suggested that there is only three hundred people in the world with the knowledge and skill to have done this.  

Dorian is Mr. Miyagi from Karate Kid

#5 theory: fake "scoop" to make a diversion and forget bad news like Mtgox + Flexcoin

As with the other "...not involved anymore" quote you have to put this in the context of the conversation, i.e. asking an engineer if he could engineer something is a pretty pointless question.

So we're still at: Proof: Zero, Conjecture: Off the scale.

it can't be him, he's old and just not.. cool

Why is it so hard for people to admit that we just don't know?
Throw out all theories you want, it won't bring you closer to the
truth.

its sooo him.  might as well be.  even if it is not, he could still make a case and come on this forum and ask for donations.  guess he would be rich.

Dynamic IP from Hals log file could be a also a TOR exit node.

Everyone is saying Satoshi always used TOR. (Which is probably correct.) So why it is assumed he didnt used TOR when doing the first TX with Hal?

Yes I loved that quote as well!  ;D

Maybe it was just his way to be humble though, and trying to downplay it all.

Obviously, I have no insider knowledge, but it does sounds suspisious. Dorian says he heard first about bitcoin 2-3 weeks ago, sometime says "bitcom" instead of "bitcoin" and seem to think bitcoin is a company (I have not communicate with them bitcoins ;) ) and now he is suddenly so sure that he could do it? Even having the most vague idea  what "bicoin/bitcom" is?

Lol, I think this is the exact reason so many people seem upset about it. We would like much more Bruce Lee twin - like that hilarious spoof post ;) With "Beautiful Mind", ofc

I think what he meant by that statement is that any programmer could have the capability to write such programs if they had strong ideas behind it.

I seriously doubt this guy is "the" Satoshi. In my head at least, I've convinced myself to be like 96.69% sure. That's a pretty sexy amount of sure.

I couldn't disagree more, I think Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto is supercool!  ;D

Can you even imagine the discipline it takes to have hundreds of millions of dollars worth of Bitcoin and not cash them in because you would rather just "keep a low profile"?

We need more people like him in the world, who are willing to change the world for the better without caring much about the financial benefit they can get from it.

If you are reading this Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto, you are an amazing man and I am very grateful for all that you have done for us :)

Well, he is a geek, how cool to you expect him to be?  ;)

That being said, I do not think it's the real Satoshi either.

Will the Real Satoshi Please Stand Up?

I am sure this is not the real Satoshi. After all the trouble to hide he won't be using his own name.

Besides I think he would be from a younger generation. 50 years at the most now.

This must be the right thing.  :o  :o  :o

Locutus is my guess.

Your first sentence is probably the most convincing evidence that he's not satoshi.
Why on earth would he use his real name if he tried to hide his identity? Unless
it's a really well thought through double play where he uses his real name just to
make people think "Nobody's that stupid, it can't be him"!
The conspiracy theories just keep flooding!

I was thinking the same.



When do we find out who wins  the pollol ?

In due time..
Oh well. This isn't really that interesting to me to be honest, I have no doubt Dorian is -not- Satoshi.

He should not. The post from the P2P account is enough.

I agree. It kind of confirms that he's still here, but at the same time keeps his identity a mystery. It should stay that way in my opinion, and people should just leave it at that. There's no point hassling innocent people like Dorian and whatever just cause you have a theory it's a person whose real identity you'll never be able to find out.