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"If you don’t believe it or don’t get it, I don’t have the time to try to convince you, sorry." -Satoshi Nakamoto

Satoshi Nakamoto was on a mission. He made this very clear with his direct messages on this forum, always straight to the point in order to not waste time that he could spend improving the Bitcoin code. This quote is from a message Satoshi sent to the now founder of Bitshares in response to a comment on Bitcoin scalability.

I am agreed and convinced with the thought of Mr. Satoshi since I have done a lot of study on his this project. Just out of curiosity want to know your thought regarding his this quote.

Thanks for your time.

I really think this is very specific and just like what you have said Satoshi is very straight to the point regarding this matter, If people would not believe him with his blockchain technology then he would not care at all and move on with it, Just like in some cases you are introducing bitcoin to your friends some would surely agree and some would not, and others would not be interested in a sort of things, Well you can not please all of them about bitcoin.

He us a very precise man (could be a woman or group of people but for clarity I refer to him as man)

Undertaking the creation of a decentralized protocol is quite a brave venture. As most people prefer to be cozy in the presumed safety of centralization.
And he was also brilliant.
He didn't need to convince people with fancy words like most investment options, but with the finished product.

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink"

If Satoshi had stopped to explain to every single person who didn't get it, they never would have got anything done.  Sometimes you just have to get on with it and allow for other people to get there on their own.  The opportunity is there, but if people choose not to take it, that's up to them.

Agreed with you. Basically, people are confused about the technology and I believe that blockchain is not so easy to understand and therefore fear rise on their mind. But understanding and believing the term who have accept cryptos, are going higher and higher. But i believe that faith on crypto is must to be gainer in this market.

You or satoshi might not have the time, but I don't think this is something we should generally adopt as a rule. Sometimes people don't have the time and energy to explain things and that's fine if you don't, but if we all did this it would be terrible for adoption. If someone comes up to me and asks me about bitcoin then I'll do my best to explain it to them and as impartially and balanced as I can. I won't tell them it's a guaranteed investment and I'll explain the risks involved because it sure is risky. If they're still totally clueless or still don't care then I might give up at some point as everyone has limits but I've always got a bit of time to promote bitcoin as I can see why it's a great invention and hopefully many more people can if they're just educated about it.

I think satoshi's comments where more of: here's my idea like it or not, I don't have time or need to persuade you. You've got to remember satoshi has a life outside of bitcoin and obviously didn't want much to do with it once it was off the ground and running. Maybe he didn't want to go too much into things for security reasons as well. The more you talk the more evidence you leave behind of who you are and that's something he was obviously very weary of. 

It doesn't really matter who satoshi really is; the only thing of importance is that Bitcoin is as real as it can be, and it's helping people obtain the freedom they otherwise would never have.

That's why I am glad he left and never came back again to bother with development. Don't get me wrong, my respect for him is sky high, but I'm pretty certain that at this point he would form a problematic factor for Bitcoin itself rather than a positive one. Ethereum is the perfect example of how lead developers not willing to part with their project are slowing down the rate of growth, and at the same time keep delaying scaling solutions as if it isn't that important.

Vitalik rolled back the chain with minority agreement, openly admitted to write hard forks if he's forced to do so, etc. No thanks.

Sstoshi has said nothing wrong there. Considering the number of people out there in the world it will be impossible to explain to every soul who will fail wrap his or her mind around the concept of crypto currency, and it will also hamper the advancement of Cryptocurrency. Besides, not all the people out there will be interested in the crypto even after they understand everything. So, such effort would have been futile and pointless.

You can explain what bitcoin really is and what potential it holds for the future. But you really can not convince anyone who does not believe in it. It is totally normal as not everyone sees the bigger picture.

I agree with satoshi. Those who have doubts about bitcoin in the first place for sure regret that they just ignored the technology that satoshi offered and introduced. There's no need for him to fully ellaborate the technology for it's very hard to comprehend technically to someone that is not interested about it.

After few years the usefulness and benefits of this technology slowly sinks in to those skeptic and narrow minded haters and eventually some were converted and even invested into crypto for future profits.

This technology is not that easy to comprehend if your not really sparing much of your time understanding everything.

in my opinion, it is not so much about explaining to every single person individually. that obviously is impossible. it is about explaining it once to best of your abilities and then when some people still resist understanding it then you can't do anything about that. as we say bitcoin is decentralized and permissionless. which works both ways. if someone doesn't want bitcoin then we don't force them to accept/use it.

Agreed with him. If someone has the interest in bitcoin, then he will inquire about it and invest in it in his own accord and the risk will be his choice. But those who don't believe in this sector can't be convinced that easily. Even if they joins the business and faces any loss, they will blame the person who convinced him. So the straight declaration is totally legit.

Why waste time on people who are looking for something to complain about to shake your ideas. "You can not wake a person who is not sleeping".

This stability is great. People from 2 years ago who wouldn’t let me show them Bitcoin, are willing to use its ease as a currency. Plus Segwit is being implemented.

Bitcoin is evolving. Soon Segwit will be 100% (it’s inevitable) and technologies like Lightning will build off Segwit. Everyone will be able to run a node! It was smart to keep bitcoin at 1mb. Developers stepped up and continue to.

Bitcoin will be the most decentralized crypto coin. Btrash will fade away with the rest. Everyone can’t run a full btrash node cause cause it’s too large. I just use a laptop for my node. Everyone will be able to verify the rules on their own.

The value of bitcoin is that it is backed by men with computers.

I guess none of us can judge a sentence that Satoshi says about Bitcoin. Satoshi knew the best development path about bitcoin.

This is very specific and just like what you've said Satoshi is very straight to the point regarding this matter. Undertaking the creation of a decentralized protocol is quite a brave venture.

I really think this link is the conversation was Satoshi used that thought https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6306#msg6306

they were talking about the speed of the transaction, so Satoshi refer to his snack machine thread that the payment processor could verify well enough, I really think Satoshi made a great line if he's not able to convince him then it is up to him, Well many don't believe in Satoshi's vision of a decentralized currency and a secure and fast transaction that he is giving to them, And pursue his idea with traditional banking.

it's actually simple, I only spend time on something I know, believe and love to do. Also, I try to learn new things till a certain point, if I feel, that certain thing is not my thing, I stop wasting time on that, maybe that is good, maybe that is bad, but I only value my time. Anything can be good, but I am not deep into that, I skip that. Maybe satoshi wanted to say that people having too less time to learn, adopt and embrace new things like Blockchain, should mind in their own business.

Many investors in bitcoin are very worried about this, that he has a lot of skeptics and haters. But I also don't see any point in convincing them that bitcoin is not a Scam. Over time, everything will become clear and they will see that the blockchain is a worthwhile technology.

Bitcoin is one of the most controversial inventions to date. And it is not as complex as it may seem, but it is understood only by those who have given it enough time to study. And the rest and continue to treat him like a bubble.

Of course, I agree with this statement. Bitcoin is a unique technology that is unlike anything that was invented before. But it does require careful study in order to understand it.

Totally make sense. There are too many works to do instead of trying to convince people.

of course, what else you could do! The main purpose is to deliver the idea and get on with it. Haters gonna hate .Always.

I think for someone who came up with a modern day digital gold, it's not so much to be up in your face and all that straight forward..

That didn't make satoshi any less accommodating or less of a good leader, he laid the background with the innovation and set the ball rolling with all the needed explanations and the technologies behind the currency
It was only normal that people were sceptical about the new creation,considering how young it was then
I do not think that scepticism still exists..

Satoshi created a currency that gives control to its patronizers,and also put them on the part to financial stability.
He sure didn't have to explain himself/herself/themselves

Satoshi might come across as being rude and temperamental with this quote, but I think his time was limited and Satoshi expected that other people was more intelligent than what his expectations was of them. If you hanged around a technical platform, like most people did at the time, then you must know what you are talking about.

I also think Satoshi wanted to push this technology into mainstream hands and Satoshi got iterated with people that was too slow to grasp the concept. <In Satoshi's mind, it was a easy concept to understand>   ::)

Agreed with you,millions of people still find it hard to understand what blockchain technology is all about and no matter how much of your time was wasted explaining to them ,all thanks to satoshi ,great future awaits

Satoshi Nakamoto maybe wanted to tell that you will profit if you believe it.If a person strive hard then most probably he or she can be successful.Bitcoin is the source and no matter how other people spread FUDS on bitcoin it is really undistructible.

But playing devil's advocate here a lack of leadership can also lead to issues too and bitcoin hasn't been without its problems and forks because of that. Look at the civil war between bitcoin and bitcoin cash. Had there been some sort of leader in Satoshi he could have truly steered bitcoin in the way he originally envisioned or at least offered his opinion where he thinks bitcoin should go. Of course he could have taken it down a path that people didn't want, but there will always be positives and negatives of not having a figurehead. At least with forks people can vote with their action and use the one they feel is better.


But who say's they're sleeping? Some people are just skeptical and I think that can often be a good thing. Far too many people are told about bitcoin as if it's a guaranteed investment and money maker and that's dangerous because it's not. When it's sold to them as a get rich quick scheme a lot of people are rightly concerned and weary. Sometimes people might not be sold on the idea of bitcoin right away and just need a little educating, and you or saotshi might not have time to explain it but I hope there are plenty of others that will because people's minds can sometimes be changed -- though of course and as you say sometimes people are also very close-minded and are unwilling to change their opinion, but I think we should still try as adoption is in everybody's interests ultimately.

The clear vision and not to sugarcoat what is already great is a great quality of Satoshi Nakamoto. If somebody ask about one thing many times it will eventually become annoying. He made us understand the potential of bitcoin many times.

It' pretty common inventors explain their marvels in details. But if people opt for asking the same thing over and over again, that becomes tiresome. He is not obliged to anyone I guess and no one is compelled to get involved in bitcoin by him either. Still this forum is a generous gesture from him so that people can really understand things. And I think that's more than enough.

Satoshi started this revolution and have done a wonderful job. But it's your choice you want to believe it or not. Bitcoin is the future and those who don't want to believe that, well, I have nothing to say at all.

The coin was not developed to introduce new propagandas to the world. It had a mission to complete and it has won many people's heart and is continuing to win more as it becomes more mainstream,

It needs believing because it doesnt have a physical feature.

I think that is what he meant about that.
People. Human. We believe in things that we touch, feel, smell or taste. If none of those are happening then it doesnt exist.
Bitcoin do have all of those kind of feature. So it is like a belief that will live with the people. But it is really there.
That is why all of those crypto currencies should thank bitcoin first. It opened the eye of everyone who are now supporting the crypto world to a new kind of technology.

I love satoshi..great man! Is very simple, he is a very straightforward person and a very expressive person!
.when he speaks believe it or not...he is done! No time to try to convince doubting Thomas! ...lol bitcoin has come to stay whether the world and respective national governments likes it or not!