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Title: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: DigitalSherlock on March 07, 2014, 05:41:28 PM I know, I'm a new member, but please try to ignore your cognitive biases and look at the facts I present.
First, I'm not going to reveal this person's identity until I have 100% confirmation. We've seen what happened to poor old man in Temple City, so unless I'm able to remove every shred of reasonable doubt, please assume this is just mental masturbation. What I currently verified about this person: 100% verified - Just as described in Nakamoto's forum account, this person was 38 years old in 2009. - This person is British; important given his British grammar. - This person is a reowned cryptographer. - There is at least one link between him and Nakamoto. Unfortunately I can't be more specific without revealing his identity. - This person was very familiar with Bitcoin in its early stages, and still is! - This person has lived in Europe for years; important given public information about his coding times. - He's very sceptical about big gov and supports Snowden, Greenwald and Assange. Again, believe whatever you want but I'm reasonably sure I tracked the real ''Nakamoto" down. If someone can provide me with more known info about Nakamoto I can continue my hunt and see if I can get some verification for that info as well! Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: seriouscoin on March 07, 2014, 05:45:22 PM I know, I'm a new member, but please try to ignore your cognitive biases and look at the facts I present. First, I'm not going to reveal this person's identity until I have 100% confirmation. We've seen what happened to poor old man in Temple City, so unless I'm able to remove every shred of reasonable doubt, please assume this is just mental masturbation. What I currently verified about this person: 100% verified - Just as described in Nakamoto's forum account, this person was 38 years old in 2009. - This person is British; important given his British grammar. - This person is a reowned cryptographer. - There is at least one link between him and Nakamoto. Unfortunately I can't be more specific without revealing his identity. - This person was very familiar with Bitcoin in its early stages, and still is! - This person has lived in Europe for years; important given public information about his coding times. - He's very sceptical about big gov and supports Snowden, Greenwald and Assange. Again, believe whatever you want but I'm reasonably sure I tracked the real ''Nakamoto" down. If someone can provide me with more known info about Nakamoto I can continue my hunt and see if I can get some verification for that info as well! I looked down in my pants..... nope... still there you havent found him yet. Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: Kluge on March 07, 2014, 05:46:38 PM UK English is spoken and written by almost everyone who isn't American, fwiw.
Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: DigitalSherlock on March 07, 2014, 05:50:39 PM I'm specifically talking about English vs. American spelling. I.e. words like flavour vs. flavor, colour vs. color etc. We already know that Nakamoto used English spelling in his personal communication, so unless you believe this was a deliberate setup, we can pretty much exclude all U.S. born citizens.
Edit: and I also believe the general consensus was that English was Nakamoto's native language. Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: Bill Bisco on March 07, 2014, 05:52:29 PM Satoshi would have had access to the newspaper which stated TN r rumor of a second bailot for banks from Angela Merkel.
Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: botolo86 on March 07, 2014, 05:52:56 PM Keep working on this project. What surprises me is that the internet, as a whole, has not been able to find the real Nakamoto yet. Is it possible that this guy was 100% invisible???
Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: Wilikon on March 07, 2014, 05:58:51 PM I know, I'm a new member, but please try to ignore your cognitive biases and look at the facts I present. First, I'm not going to reveal this person's identity until I have 100% confirmation. We've seen what happened to poor old man in Temple City, so unless I'm able to remove every shred of reasonable doubt, please assume this is just mental masturbation. What I currently verified about this person: 100% verified - Just as described in Nakamoto's forum account, this person was 38 years old in 2009. - This person is British; important given his British grammar. - This person is a reowned cryptographer. - There is at least one link between him and Nakamoto. Unfortunately I can't be more specific without revealing his identity. - This person was very familiar with Bitcoin in its early stages, and still is! - This person has lived in Europe for years; important given public information about his coding times. - He's very sceptical about big gov and supports Snowden, Greenwald and Assange. Again, believe whatever you want but I'm reasonably sure I tracked the real ''Nakamoto" down. If someone can provide me with more known info about Nakamoto I can continue my hunt and see if I can get some verification for that info as well! Digital... Sherlock? https://i.imgur.com/A3tPWvE.jpg Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: DigitalSherlock on March 07, 2014, 06:02:00 PM Look, I know this seems far-fetched for some of you, but lets recap some known information:
We know that S. Haber stated that only 300 people in the world were capable of developing Bitcoin. - My person certainly was! Nakamoto's profile indicated he was 38 in 2009. - My guy certainly was! Nakamoto's native language was British English - Another strik for my guy! This person was familiar with Bitcoin in its early stages- BOOOOM! Does is still seem that far-fetched now?! How many of the 300 crytographers capabale of developing Bitcoin were 1. British and 2. 38 y/o in 2009 and 3. familiar with Bitcoin in its early stages?! It certainly can't be more than a handful! Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: Lauda on March 07, 2014, 06:02:36 PM UK English is spoken and written by almost everyone who isn't American, fwiw. Including me. OP you didn't find anyone. Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: virtualprofit on March 07, 2014, 06:07:11 PM Quote Is it possible that this guy was 100% invisible??? Nobody is invisible , it's just about ressources for found him. A Gov Agency can , but for what ? SN doesn't control this project , it is open source ... Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: lnternet on March 07, 2014, 06:09:33 PM I couldn't care less. Can we stop this spam?
Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: CryptoDomains on March 07, 2014, 06:11:52 PM I'm specifically talking about English vs. American spelling. I.e. words like flavour vs. flavor, colour vs. color etc. We already know that Nakamoto used English spelling in his personal communication, so unless you believe this was a deliberate setup, we can pretty much exclude all U.S. born citizens. Edit: and I also believe the general consensus was that English was Nakamoto's native language. So he could be Canadian as well is what you just said. Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: Bill Bisco on March 07, 2014, 06:15:43 PM OP. We'd all love to find the real satoshi. But seriously, more investigation and less hype. Post a video where you actually talk to the guy and make your arguments.
Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: xDan on March 07, 2014, 06:18:48 PM Is it possible that this guy was 100% invisible??? absolutely, it's really not *that* hard if you know what you are doing. And there's different levels of anonymity - hiding from the general public is easy, while hiding from the NSA might be a lot harder. He only needed to do the former to keep his name unknown, though he probably attempted the latter too. anyway, OP's post is some kind of nonsense / pure speculation until proven otherwise. The only relevant fact is being a renowned cryptographer. Actually being 38yrs counts as negative evidence to me, since it's so very unlikely Satoshi would have used a pseudonym yet also given his real age. Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: runam0k on March 07, 2014, 06:26:23 PM OP. We'd all love to find the real satoshi. But seriously, more investigation and less hype. Post a video where you actually talk to the guy and make your arguments. ^This, and make sure you include his house, car and licence plate in the shot.:)Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: Lauda on March 07, 2014, 06:26:49 PM We'd all love to find the real satoshi. No. If he wants to remain anonymous, he should remain anonymous. Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: DigitalSherlock on March 07, 2014, 06:27:00 PM Is it possible that this guy was 100% invisible??? absolutely, it's really not *that* hard if you know what you are doing. And there's different levels of anonymity - hiding from the general public is easy, while hiding from the NSA might be a lot harder. He only needed to do the former to keep his name unknown, though he probably attempted the latter too. anyway, OP's post is some kind of nonsense / pure speculation until proven otherwise. The only relevant fact is being a renowned cryptographer. Actually being 38yrs counts as negative evidence to me, since it's so very unlikely Satoshi would have used a pseudonym yet also given his real age. I admire your scepticism, so please guesstimate the odds of being: 1. a renowned cryptographer capable of developing BTC. According to another renowned cryptographer, S. Haber, there are only 300. AND 2. being familiar with Bitcoin in its early stages These are 100% confirmed facts. We can even ignore his age and nationality. Still, I don't think there are more than a handful of persons who fulfill these two criteria. Please tell me where I'm wrong if you disagree. Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: BTCat on March 07, 2014, 06:34:34 PM Wow dude you found him. You should be on CNN already.
These guys here are so depressive to deny it. We should cheer for him for his almost 100% guarentee find. Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: BidcoinBernd on March 07, 2014, 06:39:50 PM I'm specifically talking about English vs. American spelling. I.e. words like flavour vs. flavor, colour vs. color etc. We already know that Nakamoto used English spelling in his personal communication, so unless you believe this was a deliberate setup, we can pretty much exclude all U.S. born citizens. Edit: and I also believe the general consensus was that English was Nakamoto's native language. Almost everyone (outside US) learns UK english in school but reads US english on the internet. If this proofs anything than that he's not from UK (because he used american spelling too) and not from US . But it's still a very weak proof. Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: bitfreak! on March 07, 2014, 06:43:32 PM First you need some method of confirming that this guy is one of the top 300 cryptography experts in the world, which is highly unlikely. Secondly, I don't believe it takes a top level cryptographer to build bitcoin, it takes a person who has a broad knowledge of many different computer science topics and an ability to conceptualize complex systems in their head. I'm sure that there are tens of thousands of people 38 years of age right now that meet that criteria. The concepts required to build Bitcoin already existed and were simply waiting for someone like Satoshi to bring those ideas together, it was only a matter of time before someone would see how to fit the pieces together.
And as another poster mentioned, the rest of the world besides the US uses British English. For example we use it here in Australia. But if you notice, I use US spelling for some words (look at how I spell conceptualize). Satoshi also used a mix of British and US spelling, so he could essentially be from any English speaking part of the world, even the US. And the fact your guy was familiar with Bitcoin in its early stages isn't surprising if he is a cryptographer, I imagine that the vast majority of cryptographers worth their salt keep up with the latest technological achievements related to their field of work. The evidence you have isn't really any more convincing than the evidence on Dorian Nakamoto. Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: luckytiger on March 07, 2014, 06:51:04 PM - Just as described in Nakamoto's forum account, this person was 38 years old in 2009. - This person is British; important given his British grammar. - This person is a reowned cryptographer. - There is at least one link between him and Nakamoto. Unfortunately I can't be more specific without revealing his identity. - This person was very familiar with Bitcoin in its early stages, and still is! - This person has lived in Europe for years; important given public information about his coding times. - He's very sceptical about big gov and supports Snowden, Greenwald and Assange. - I wasnt 38 but i was 14, that old anough to browser the internet and dont want people to know i am 14 so i put 38 down to be taken serious or never be found. why else would i use a nickname. - not british altough i got tought british in school and went other country's allot so i spoke fluent english/american, if i ask people where i am from they say america because of my accent, but i write more words in an british style - my facebook says that. - i like anime, and needed a nickname - browserd the internet what are you gonna do. - still live in europe - support them too. come one no is going to know who he is or was until he steps forward and tells us and proves us that he is who he says he is. There is a reason he hasnt been found. And the person your referring too, isnt the real guy because if he was he wouldnt confirm any of those facts if he still wanted to be hidden. and if he was active within bitcoin comunnity, he should take back his old account confirm it with a bitcoin transaction from his account and rule the world. Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: DigitalSherlock on March 07, 2014, 06:55:10 PM First you need some method of confirming that this guy is one of the top 300 cryptography experts in the world, which is highly unlikely. Secondly, I don't believe it takes a top level cryptographer to build bitcoin, it takes a person who has a broad knowledge of many different computer science topics and an ability to conceptualize complex systems in their head. I'm sure that there are tens of thousands of people 38 years of age right now that meet that criteria. The concepts required to build Bitcoin already existed and were simply waiting for someone like Satoshi to bring those ideas together, it was only a matter of time before someone would see how to fit the pieces together. And as another poster mentioned, the rest of the world besides the US uses British English. For example we use it here in Australia. But if you notice, I use U.S. spelling for some words (look at how I spell conceptualize). Satoshi also used a mix of British and US spelling, so he could essentially be from any English speaking part of the world, even the US. And the fact your guy was familiar with Bitcoin in its early stages isn't surprising if he is a cryptographer, I imagine that the vast majority of cryptographers worth their salt keep up with the latest technological achievements related to their field of work. The evidence you have isn't really any more convincing than the evidence on Dorian Nakamoto. Great post, but I'm not sure wether your tens of thousands comment is correct. All the experts quoted in this* article mention a deep knowledge of crytography was needed to develop BTC. Stuart Haber even throws around the 300 number. I tend to go with that number honestly. Not because of any cognitive bias, but because the experts seem pretty clear about this. * http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/129/Media/the_crypto_currency_New_Yorker_Article_Oct_3,_2011.pdf Edit: my guy certainly belongs in that top 300 category. I'm sure any expert would agree. Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: analytics on March 07, 2014, 07:06:09 PM My guy is guranteed to be the one and he's not from the UK. My guy too is the right age and a cryptographer. Please send me bitcoin to support my research. My guy is actually an eskimo living close to Alaska. I have just as much proof as you have presented.
Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: BTCat on March 07, 2014, 07:11:42 PM My guy is guranteed to be the one and he's not from the UK. My guy too is the right age and a cryptographer. Please send me bitcoin to support my research. My guy is actually an eskimo living close to Alaska. I have just as much proof as you have presented. I knew it was him! http://www.natgeocreative.com/comp/04/368/978169.jpg Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: bitfreak! on March 07, 2014, 07:15:57 PM Great post, but I'm not sure wether your tens of thousands comment is correct. All the experts quoted in this* article mention a deep knowledge of crytography was needed to develop BTC. Stuart Haber even throws around the 300 number. I tend to go with that number honestly. Not because of any cognitive bias, but because the experts seem pretty clear about this. As someone who understands bitcoin quite well I have to disagree with their assessment. 300 is just a wild guess from the top of their head, there is no scientific basis to it. There is no new cryptography in bitcoin, it uses an existing hashing algorithm and an existing elliptic curve signature scheme. Obviously he was a skilled programmer with a decent knowledge of cryptography but he didn't need to have top notch cryptography skills in order to create bitcoin. He simply used existing ideas and combined them to create something new, his real skill was innovative thinking and creative use of existing technology. He didn't need to be a trained professional, there are unknown hobbyists and open source programmers who have just as much if not more knowledge than the trained programmers because they have an unquenchable thirst for knowledge and teach themselves everything they need to know. Even if your guy is considered by many to be in the top 300 that still doesn't prove anything.Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: chinacoinbase on March 07, 2014, 07:20:35 PM haha, how? the reporter use FBI support to find him, what is your analysis tool or data?
only base on our community, joke? man!!! but thank u to explain your reason, the best way is to release your clue to confirm by other. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) I know, I'm a new member, but please try to ignore your cognitive biases and look at the facts I present. First, I'm not going to reveal this person's identity until I have 100% confirmation. We've seen what happened to poor old man in Temple City, so unless I'm able to remove every shred of reasonable doubt, please assume this is just mental masturbation. What I currently verified about this person: 100% verified - Just as described in Nakamoto's forum account, this person was 38 years old in 2009. - This person is British; important given his British grammar. - This person is a reowned cryptographer. - There is at least one link between him and Nakamoto. Unfortunately I can't be more specific without revealing his identity. - This person was very familiar with Bitcoin in its early stages, and still is! - This person has lived in Europe for years; important given public information about his coding times. - He's very sceptical about big gov and supports Snowden, Greenwald and Assange. Again, believe whatever you want but I'm reasonably sure I tracked the real ''Nakamoto" down. If someone can provide me with more known info about Nakamoto I can continue my hunt and see if I can get some verification for that info as well! Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: mz1000 on March 07, 2014, 07:46:59 PM I'm specifically talking about English vs. American spelling. I.e. words like flavour vs. flavor, colour vs. color etc. We already know that Nakamoto used English spelling in his personal communication, so unless you believe this was a deliberate setup, we can pretty much exclude all U.S. born citizens. Edit: and I also believe the general consensus was that English was Nakamoto's native language. So he could be Canadian as well is what you just said. Australians use the same spellings as us (British Isles), right? I've always thought he could just as likely be from Australia or Hong Kong based on the spellings, but if what people say about the log in times is true and that he is probably from the west, then that suggests otherwise. I think the media he mentions is a bigger clue. Especially the mention of the headline from the front page of The Times. But did he do that to throw people off. Question: would he know that was on the front page by looking at their website that day? Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: xDan on March 07, 2014, 08:43:43 PM I admire your scepticism, so please guesstimate the odds of being: 1. a renowned cryptographer capable of developing BTC. According to another renowned cryptographer, S. Haber, there are only 300. AND 2. being familiar with Bitcoin in its early stages These are 100% confirmed facts. We can even ignore his age and nationality. Still, I don't think there are more than a handful of persons who fulfill these two criteria. Please tell me where I'm wrong if you disagree. 1. Whether or not there are 300... Doesn't mean all 300 are publicly known or even have a Facebook profile. Satoshi does not have to be renowned. His use of anonymity shows at least that he cares little for being well known. I personally believe any highly mathematically inclined person could give themselves the necessary education within years. So I would put the pool as: Anyone with large mathematical and computer science talent. Which is many, many, more than 300. (The secret sauce here is: the mathematical/compsci talent has to be combined with the *drive* and desire to create this system, but this doesn't have to come from a crypto/cypherpunk background. Maybe he was just some highly talented math guy who came to hate banks and then did some research and fell down the rabbit hole...) 2. How early stages? I would be surprised of a "renowned cryptographer" that didn't hear about it soon. It's their business presumably to keep up to date. So I don't see this concluding much. btw, anyone know how old Nick Szabo is? Title: Re: 95% sure I found Satoshi Nakamoto Post by: Kluge on March 07, 2014, 08:47:59 PM I'm specifically talking about English vs. American spelling. I.e. words like flavour vs. flavor, colour vs. color etc. We already know that Nakamoto used English spelling in his personal communication, so unless you believe this was a deliberate setup, we can pretty much exclude all U.S. born citizens. Edit: and I also believe the general consensus was that English was Nakamoto's native language. So he could be Canadian as well is what you just said. |
