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Title: The Stablecoin War
Post by: Gozzy on October 24, 2018, 03:52:33 PM
With yesterdays announcement of USDC it is imminent that there is ongoing stablecoin war occurring,  how will the famous USDT respond to one of the leading entities in blockchain pushing out a competing asset? Let's not forget the new fiat-pegged asset to the scene TUSD, how will these entities compete with the biggest giant in the game and the easiest portal to liquidate and buy digital assets. Tether has executed some amoral approaches before, what stops them to execute with this in mind again in order to exit with some sort of profit? Coinbase and Circle are certainly in the lead with this war and it will be interesting to see how exchanges that utilise the other stablecoins will respond.

If you ask me, I think these assets are a huge risk and could drop to zero at any time due to the centralised ability of increasing the supply behind the majority of them. You may ask why do these assets incorporate such a method? It's obviously to keep the monetary value stable if a significant amount of revenue is induced to the assets eco-system. Regardless I'd rather just keep my revenue in fiat or in crypto, not in a variation that combines the two.

What's your take on this all BCT? :P


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: Gozzy on October 24, 2018, 04:06:16 PM
Bumping this, eager to hear people's perspectives.


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: pranazzs on October 24, 2018, 04:11:52 PM
indeed, the big markets have been delisted USDT.
and there is also one more stable coin, GUSD or Gemini Dollar.
More and more stable coin competition.
I agree with you, it's better to save on Fiat, or BTC, and also ETH.


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: bartolo on October 24, 2018, 04:18:59 PM
First of all, we'll have to see how many of these stablecoins will be really stable and will keep their value. Then, I guess people will choose one or maybe two and will forget the rest. I myself wouldn't trust in any of these stablecoins nor the entities behind them.


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: Gozzy on October 24, 2018, 04:22:16 PM
indeed, the big markets have been delisted USDT.
and there is also one more stable coin, GUSD or Gemini Dollar.
More and more stable coin competition.
I agree with you, it's better to save on Fiat, or BTC, and also ETH.

Do you know any of the markets that have executed delistings of these assets?

Indeed I forgot about the Gemini dollar, I actually thought TUSD was GUSD. There is far too much of them and all bare the same attributes but yet none are beneficial in other aspects, the only reason why USDC is taking the lead because it's launched by Coinbase. None of these assets have technological advantages to one another they are all of the same, upon contemplating on the topic I formed a PoC that would create a stablecoin that is much superior to the current implementations and one that fully decentralised. It's going down in the ideas book for sure but I feel there is no gap in the stablecoin market anymore, so idea is quite irrelevant.



Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: sherwinsamsung on October 24, 2018, 04:22:50 PM
I think there would be no problem with multiple stablecoins or fiat-pegged coins as long as they were backed up by equivalent or higher amount of bitcoin.  such is the case of bitshares' bitusd and bitcny where these assets are backed by twice the amount in bts.  on usdt case, I am not sure if it is backed up by equivalent amount of btc.  if not, then big trouble will become imminent if majority of usdt holders will exchange it to btc.  that will surely lead to exchange collapse and another crypto catastrophe.


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: Sanmark on October 24, 2018, 04:23:10 PM
There are more "stable coins" every day. I think that their creators figured out thats free money. If US treasury can create money from thin air why wouldn't many others? 8) Interesting thing in all that is new coins tusd, usdc and others are taking part of the market cap but usdt is not loosing any of his?! ???


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: Gozzy on October 24, 2018, 04:28:11 PM
I think there would be no problem with multiple stablecoins or fiat-pegged coins as long as they were backed up by equivalent or higher amount of bitcoin.  such is the case of bitshares' bitusd and bitcny where these assets are backed by twice the amount in bts.  on usdt case, I am not sure if it is backed up by equivalent amount of btc.  if not, then big trouble will become imminent if majority of usdt holders will exchange it to btc.  that will surely lead to exchange collapse and another crypto catastrophe.

Yes i've noticed that BTS have the whole stablecoin approach differently, interestingly enough bitCNY overtook TUSD in volume just afew days ago! Indeed it's a quite controversial topic and i'm afraid it will end quite badly, I think it's best to stay away period. The collapse of these assets could have a huge effect on crypto as a whole is the problem.


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: Gozzy on October 24, 2018, 04:42:58 PM
There are more "stable coins" every day. I think that their creators figured out thats free money. If US treasury can create money from thin air why wouldn't many others? 8) Interesting thing in all that is new coins tusd, usdc and others are taking part of the market cap but usdt is not loosing any of his?! ???

It's because of Tether's printing abilities they are always increasing the supply to keep the value stable with people dumping mostly.


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: anobtc on October 24, 2018, 04:44:14 PM
Perhaps because of the current market bearish and any new crypto currency listed on the exchanges is depreciated, the stable coin issuance secured by fiat money is the safest way.


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: benalexis12 on October 24, 2018, 11:43:38 PM
StableCoin is a really Sh*t thing for me. There's a positive and negative side of it. Bitcoin will be popular but in the negative side it will be manipulated so on and on. Well let see what will happen in the next few months.


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: Reid on October 24, 2018, 11:49:47 PM
Same.
I would rather pick fiat more than those who pretends they are fiat and yet also a crypto currency.

This kind of things have been all over. Look at how Tether is now. An immediate escape of whales and a way to play the trading system.

Yeah trading websites are thanking them with all that crypto currencies they are making profit by now.
But at the end of all this, crypto like Tether will be out in a sudden without a single trace and those who bought them cannot even get their capital back.


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: CryptoAssasin on October 24, 2018, 11:52:33 PM
I understand that cryptocurrency is a virtual money and maybe the reason why USDT and other stable coin was created is because it needs to be partnered with stable virtual currency coin so that the concept of "Cryptocurrency" will be stabilized. The most scary thing about this stable coins is that it can definitely drop down to zero immediately when they will be accused as scam stable coin. I actually don't wanted to do my business with these stable altcoins as much as possible but they are reliable in times of red market.


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: javadsalehi on October 24, 2018, 11:57:02 PM
One of the biggest advantages of cryptocurrencies is their limited supply. But the total supply of such coins can change. So, One of the biggest problem of fiat which is money printing exist in these coins. Also, There is no guarantee that their price will remain fixed. If their price drops to zero, there is no one responsible for that. Tether proved that it is possible.


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: iconoclast on October 25, 2018, 01:13:50 AM
I am wondering if we might actually see the market for stable coins fragment even further. I like trading on DEX's rather than CEX's. Could we see a future where we see stable coins specific to each platform to allow for their exchange on DEX's? Some people also like privacy, could we see the introduction of dollar pegged coins that are untracable?


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: Haven Coffey on October 26, 2018, 12:25:42 PM
There are a lot of Stable coin out there in the market. But, how many of them will remain stable, is the question that is important. People will choose only the best amomg this. How much stable others will be after that is almost clear. A lot of investors are still weary of these coins.


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: cryptohunter on October 26, 2018, 12:39:28 PM
I would prefer the elegant and trustless, fully decentralised and transparent version of a smoothing peg like bitbay


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: GenesisDominguez on October 26, 2018, 05:19:57 PM
Well, the price might be stable, but the market of stable coin doesn't seem that stable now. The fiat, bitcoin and some good altcoins are still there which are ready to give safer service, so you can always trust in those. But in another word risk might bring you fortune, you can try this stable coin too.


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: Mikeschmitt on October 26, 2018, 05:52:46 PM
Before coming to a verdict on the matter we'll have to see how many of these stablecoins be stable enough to maintain value. With that people will be able to choose one or two and disregard the rest but, how much we'll be able to trust these stablecoins and the entities behind them is something we'll find out soon enough.


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: Aroredus1 on October 29, 2018, 03:42:18 PM
The situation of stable coin is really delicate right now. Tether almost created a scandal and it was ridiculous. I think it's better not to engage in any stable coin momentarily.


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: Hiranidd09 on October 29, 2018, 03:42:36 PM
It will be interesting to see how many stablecoins will be able to keep their value. After the incident with Tether, situation is tough and it will be hard to choose a coin now.


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: Droreric02 on October 29, 2018, 03:42:54 PM
The stable coin wars are the talk of the town now-a-days. We will have to see how this coins actually manages to be stable in the long run as many people are skeptical.


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: Brayclya099 on October 29, 2018, 03:43:10 PM
After the tether situation the current state of stable coin is not very positive. Tether scandal's scarring was pretty deep but recently circle and coinbase announced that they are working towards a stable coin. So lets see what happens with that.


Title: Re: The Stablecoin War
Post by: oioioi on October 29, 2018, 04:06:34 PM
to believe it is not very easy, the price may go down very quickly, because it doesn't close the possibility, even for coins that have high stability