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Title: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: CBG81 on October 25, 2018, 12:23:47 PM
He was missing since the 25th of September. Apparently the kidnappers asked for ransom which was supposedly paid by Tony's wife in BTC ( worth around $1m supposedly ) . Still unclear as to how he got killed. More info (https://lcb.org/news/sportsbook-owner-5dimes-tony-found-dead-in-costa-rica)


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: Lebitbra on October 25, 2018, 12:59:08 PM
I can just hope that the Costa Rica's police will do the job, and that the kidnappers will be found. But really awful news... A few things confuses me, if family agreed to pay, why was he killed? Did the kidnappers receive the money? I guess they had no intention of letting him go....  perhaps it would be possible to track down the transaction, if there was any transaction done at all.


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: CBG81 on October 25, 2018, 01:17:50 PM
I can just hope that the Costa Rica's police will do the job, and that the kidnappers will be found. But really awful news... A few things confuses me, if family agreed to pay, why was he killed? Did the kidnappers receive the money? I guess they had no intention of letting him go....  perhaps it would be possible to track down the transaction, if there was any transaction done at all.

it is still uncertain if the ransom was actually paid ( different sources claim different amounts ) but not until police confirms more detail we are left in dark.

But if indeed transaction was made in BTC then they can kiss the money goodbye.


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: Flagship11 on October 25, 2018, 04:13:25 PM
Only a matter of time before someone who was pissed off enough to carry out the dirty deed.
Never played here but his name was very well known.
RIP to Tony and hopefully well wishes to the entire 5dimes family and CR community.
 


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: MissLo on October 25, 2018, 04:51:31 PM
Sad news indeed. I've never played at this casino but I heard of it. I think that the biggest question is, what's going to happen with this casino now?  :-\


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: eternalgloom on October 26, 2018, 10:24:23 AM
I've read somewhere a person very close to him might actually be involved. Also the wife hired some ex feds to investigate in addition to the police. It indeed sounds like a scene from the action movie

I'd say that's very likely.

He probably talked about his wealth to the wrongs people and they've then set up the kidnapping to relieve him from his funds.
The fact that they still killed him after the ransom was supposedly paid is pretty terrible, but also somewhat logical actually.

If they had not killed him, investigators might have been able to find his kidnappers.

My condolences to his family, no-one deserves this.


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: CBG81 on October 26, 2018, 11:12:01 AM


He probably talked about his wealth to the wrongs people and they've then set up the kidnapping to relieve him from his funds.
The fact that they still killed him after the ransom was supposedly paid is pretty terrible, but also somewhat logical actually.


it is my understanding that he was somewhat known in that part of the world. I read somewhere on the caisno forums that he was often flashing with expensive cars etc. Nothing wrong in doing that, but as you propose it definitely has something to do with the ransom and death.


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: Lebitbra on October 26, 2018, 01:12:06 PM
Well, it is risky to act like than in any part of the world, who knows whom you might annoy. And no bodyguards? that's a bit reckless, don't you think? Now, if it was someone in the family... that's another thing.


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: slaman29 on October 26, 2018, 02:30:48 PM
Well, it is risky to act like than in any part of the world, who knows whom you might annoy. And no bodyguards? that's a bit reckless, don't you think? Now, if it was someone in the family... that's another thing.

Comes with the territory I guess. I don't think you get called "5dimes tony" for being under the radar and I don't think you get wealthy like that for not talking up yourself every day in the industry. But yeah, these types of cases usually connected to family or business acquaintances. Never good to hear it like that, and yet another bad name for BTC, just because it was used to pay the ransom.

Damn news people keep picking up clickbait.


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: veleten on October 26, 2018, 03:55:51 PM
awful news , condolences to the family  :-[
never heard about 5dimes casino, though but in the article they say it is huge in Costa Rica
there is a wave of this sort of news lately, a guy was murdered for 120.000$ in Norway not so long ago:
https://www.ccn.com/slain-bitcoin-investor-was-cashing-out-to-buy-an-apartment/
be very careful not to boast about your bitcoins or investments , exercise caution and be safe


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: MissLo on October 27, 2018, 02:38:08 PM
if the kidnappers were paid, what is the point of killing him after that  ::)


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: veleten on October 27, 2018, 03:18:27 PM
if the kidnappers were paid, what is the point of killing him after that  ::)

uh.... so they cannot be found later
I think he could have known them too , this is all too sad, things people do for money ...
hope the police find the scum who did this and they get what they deserve


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: milewilda on October 27, 2018, 04:05:10 PM
My condolences to the family of William Sean Creighton specially to his wife giving out ransom without any hesitation just for the safety of his husband but sadly things turns out to be more worst.
Just wondering on how he drove his car without any bodyguards in that night? Someone is watching him for sure and do really make use of that opportunity.This is the hard part
when you are known specially having lots of money.Your life is always at risk.

if the kidnappers were paid, what is the point of killing him after that  ::)
2 reasons

Victim might know those suspects or simply they wont just really like to leave up a trail or someone can remember their face.


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: kryptqnick on October 27, 2018, 07:48:25 PM
He was missing since the 25th of September. Apparently the kidnappers asked for ransom which was supposedly paid by Tony's wife in BTC ( worth around $1m supposedly ) . Still unclear as to how he got killed. More info (https://lcb.org/news/sportsbook-owner-5dimes-tony-found-dead-in-costa-rica)

Ouch, that seems like terrible news. Kidnap for ransom makes sense, but why kill the guy anyway/not waiting enough for the money? I mean, obviously 1 million dollars is better than a dead body... I guess things must've gove messed up a lot if that happened. I don't think this was the outcome the kidnappers wanted. If the money was indeed payed in bitcoin, it will only lead to some wallet and while that won't be very useful for identifying the killers, if any other transactions in and out of that wallet happen, it would certainly be something to keep an eye on. It's really sad that such things involving cryptos happen, it gives people more reasons not to adopt them.


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: tokeweed on October 28, 2018, 03:29:09 PM
I can just hope that the Costa Rica's police will do the job, and that the kidnappers will be found. But really awful news... A few things confuses me, if family agreed to pay, why was he killed? Did the kidnappers receive the money? I guess they had no intention of letting him go....  perhaps it would be possible to track down the transaction, if there was any transaction done at all.

Lol.  Nope.  If the police were doing their jobs, this wouldn't happen.  And hell yeah the kidnappers got the money.  Why do you think they killed him in the first place?


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: pixie85 on October 28, 2018, 07:51:07 PM
I can just hope that the Costa Rica's police will do the job, and that the kidnappers will be found. But really awful news... A few things confuses me, if family agreed to pay, why was he killed? Did the kidnappers receive the money? I guess they had no intention of letting him go....  perhaps it would be possible to track down the transaction, if there was any transaction done at all.

Lol.  Nope.  If the police were doing their jobs, this wouldn't happen.  And hell yeah the kidnappers got the money.  Why do you think they killed him in the first place?

A good piece of advice for every family of a kidnapped person is to do exactly the opposite of what the kidnappers want you to do. They want you to pay and you shouldn't because they will usually want more. They want you not to contact the police and that's why you should do it. If you quietly pay nobody can guarantee that they will release the hostage that could see their faces and hear them talk.


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: darkangel11 on October 29, 2018, 04:42:58 PM
I'll never understand those people who go to a poor country, show off with their wealth, and don't protect themselves at all. So many rich people disappear in Brazil and RSA every year, now it's Costa Rica. Guy was driving a car that a typical Costa Rican wouldn't be able to afford even if he was to be saving up for 20 years, alone, no escort, no weapon for self defense...

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Hours before vanishing into thin air, Creighton was seen driving his Porsche Cayenne Turbo with no bodyguard escort. It seems that the casino boss was forced off the road by another car, possibly BMW with two individuals, and at least another two men on motorcycles…

Now the wife will get everything. Police should follow that trail, since she's a local girl ;)


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: rolleth.io on October 30, 2018, 11:20:23 AM
Wow. This is very bad news. Shocking is the fact that people, trying to find easy money, go to such actions. We need only hope that this will not affect the sphere of gambling. Condolences to wife.


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: crwth on October 30, 2018, 11:27:09 AM
This is one of the cases where Bitcoin was used because of anonymity. It's hard to say how much the family felt even after paying the ransom. It might just be the things that could open their eyes to reality and become more careful with other actions. It can't be undone, and I guess having over a million dollars by the family means that they know the target.

I know some people here blames the police for not doing anything, but nothing could prevent crime. In general, there are a lot of sick people that live their lives in an unrighteous way, and sometimes they are not to blame too, knowing that society is not welcoming them and no opportunities are given. There's no real fix but only ourselves.


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: freebutcaged on October 30, 2018, 12:13:54 PM
This is why you should never tell people your real name if you are a casino owner with a lot of Bitcoins.

Casino owners and their identities should be kept a secret from the public to prevent these crimes, but as

Others have suggested it could be that someone close to him did this to him just to get the Bitcoins.

I can't really say who that person might be but people would usually go for the spouse, in most of cases

It's usually the wife or husband, or maybe a girlfriend or something but you never know not until they

Catch whoever behind this crime. the question is why would they kill the man if they were paid the ransom

As they requested? one possible answer could be that whoever was behind the kidnapping knew the victim

And had no other option than killing the man because if they let him go, he could've gone to the police

And tell them who kidnapped him, in most cases of kidnapping and asking for a ransom, people end up dead

Even if you pay them what they have asked, they say that if you go to the police they would kill the

Person, now they killed him anyways.


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: tokeweed on October 30, 2018, 02:45:01 PM
^  Dude, why do you write with all spaces in between sentences or no spaces at all?  Lol.  It's like you're trying too hard to either hide something or you're trying to annoy everybody.

I'll tell you this tho, it's working!    :D


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: wxa7115 on October 30, 2018, 04:11:08 PM
if the kidnappers were paid, what is the point of killing him after that  ::)
This is very sad news but most of the time this is the end result of a kidnapping whether the ransom is paid or not, if this was a case where the kidnappers knew his victim then it is likely they never had the intention of releasing him since then they will be found by the police afterwards and since there is a lot of money involved this will surely become a high profile case where the police will do everything to find them.

Now there are have been also cases where the kidnappers did not meant to kill the victim but they did anyway or maybe they are just that cold and did it because they wanted, after all they are kidnappers and once they do that then I suppose those people do not have high morals.


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: darkangel11 on October 30, 2018, 05:27:55 PM
^  Dude, why do you write with all spaces in between sentences or no spaces at all?  Lol.  It's like you're trying too hard to either hide something or you're trying to annoy everybody.

I'll tell you this tho, it's working!    :D

He evolved into it. If you look at his posts from 2017 like this one, (http://one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1775766.msg18400707#msg18400707) you'll see that he used to use normal spacing. Then, slowly, he started to use 2 or 3 double spaces in each posts between full sentences, and finally ended with spacing every line, regardless of whether it was a sentence or not. It feels like he's going the wrong way.

http://www.funbodytherapy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/evolution-of-man-to-computer.jpg


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: CBG81 on November 08, 2018, 01:01:41 PM
there still seems to be conflicting reports , one claim his body was found, others that it wasnt ( so he would still be officially missing )


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: Juggy777 on November 09, 2018, 09:51:53 AM
there still seems to be conflicting reports , one claim his body was found, others that it wasnt ( so he would still be officially missing )

I'm not willing to believe he is dead until the police verify the body found was his," a former friend said of Creighton.  "I can see him showing up at the office tomorrow announcing he's back as if nothing ever happened.  Wishful thinking I suppose."

I really wish this quote from one of their family friend comes to be true, one quick search shows the police and family are making sure no one knows about whereabouts to his body. I can understand they're trying to understand what happened and catch the people responsible for it, there's a mention of a Porsche showing up, I'm not really sure what's that got to do with the murder, but this link says it could be his car, I don't think there's been any fresh updates since then.

Link: https://www.gambling911.com/what-happened-to-tony-from-5dimes.html


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: CBG81 on November 09, 2018, 10:29:29 AM
i i fear the worst as more time pass



Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: justspare on November 09, 2018, 01:28:09 PM
 Dude is a casino owner, there is no way his name wasn't known at all, he has to register at the very least to own a casino and you will be known just from that. You can do whatever you please to hide your ID in crypto but in real life that option doesn't exist, he wasn't kidnapped because he had a lot of bitcoin to his name, he was kidnapped because he was rich and there are a lot of rich people in the world that did not get kidnapped so far.

Bill Gates is one of the richest people in the world and no one goes for him, hell he is not even protected half the time which means it would be easy to kidnap him but people won't do that, why? Because if you kidnap him than you will be caught a lot sooner and will have to see a very serious jail time. However this dude 5Dimes Tony was kidnapped and no one really cared about it, which tells me he was not favorable to cops and public neither.


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: YuginKadoya on November 09, 2018, 02:28:07 PM
Dude is a casino owner, there is no way his name wasn't known at all, he has to register at the very least to own a casino and you will be known just from that. You can do whatever you please to hide your ID in crypto but in real life that option doesn't exist, he wasn't kidnapped because he had a lot of bitcoin to his name, he was kidnapped because he was rich and there are a lot of rich people in the world that did not get kidnapped so far.

Bill Gates is one of the richest people in the world and no one goes for him, hell he is not even protected half the time which means it would be easy to kidnap him but people won't do that, why? Because if you kidnap him than you will be caught a lot sooner and will have to see a very serious jail time. However this dude 5Dimes Tony was kidnapped and no one really cared about it, which tells me he was not favorable to cops and public neither.

Then are you saying that the justice system is not fair and that a not so well known person can just endure this kind of situation because the police will certainly not done a proper investigation regarding the case, I really think that is not the case here and that the kidnapping was well planned, we can say that the criminals were well aware of William Sean Creighton's movement and what the usual things he might do, And comparing 5Dime tony to Bill Gates activities was not reasonable, So I am saying that it is very easy to abduct William Sean Creighton that Bill Gates I am thinking that their activity was really not the same and the criminals were well aware of William Sean Creighton's movements so he is an easy target for them, We can not involve their popularity with the case and blame the cops that they might not do this case well enough.

Condolences to William Sean Creighton's family he doesn't deserve this kind of thing and may the cop shed some light to this case.


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: milewilda on November 09, 2018, 09:16:45 PM
Dude is a casino owner, there is no way his name wasn't known at all, he has to register at the very least to own a casino and you will be known just from that. You can do whatever you please to hide your ID in crypto but in real life that option doesn't exist, he wasn't kidnapped because he had a lot of bitcoin to his name, he was kidnapped because he was rich and there are a lot of rich people in the world that did not get kidnapped so far.

Bill Gates is one of the richest people in the world and no one goes for him, hell he is not even protected half the time which means it would be easy to kidnap him but people won't do that, why? Because if you kidnap him than you will be caught a lot sooner and will have to see a very serious jail time. However this dude 5Dimes Tony was kidnapped and no one really cared about it, which tells me he was not favorable to cops and public neither.

Then are you saying that the justice system is not fair and that a not so well known person can just endure this kind of situation because the police will certainly not done a proper investigation regarding the case, I really think that is not the case here and that the kidnapping was well planned, we can say that the criminals were well aware of William Sean Creighton's movement and what the usual things he might do, And comparing 5Dime tony to Bill Gates activities was not reasonable, So I am saying that it is very easy to abduct William Sean Creighton that Bill Gates I am thinking that their activity was really not the same and the criminals were well aware of William Sean Creighton's movements so he is an easy target for them, We can not involve their popularity with the case and blame the cops that they might not do this case well enough.

Condolences to William Sean Creighton's family he doesn't deserve this kind of thing and may the cop shed some light to this case.
Each rich person do have different activity and things that do happen on Creighton might happen on Gates as well as long criminals are fully aware or do know such common activities or usual
movements of a certain target then anytime they can really be attacked for the same sole purpose which is to take money or ransom.The difference among the two is the popularity but it isnt really right at
all to make such comparison.


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: acarli on November 09, 2018, 10:00:11 PM
I read the reports and noticed they requested 750k or so in BTC? I do not think they actually claimed they paid the ransom, only that they would have.

I was surprised that this happened. I wish the family and friends condolences during this difficult time.

I lived in Costa Rica for quite some time. Kidnappings were not common. The only other one I remember is another sports book guy in Santana. Dangerous times in CR.


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: Lebitbra on November 10, 2018, 11:17:49 AM
It's really strange... since there were no official reports about any ransom payments.  :-\ Not sure what to think, hopefully, he will be found alive, though as the time passes it will be difficult for the family to keep their hopes up.


Title: Re: Sportsbook/Casino Owner "5Dimes Tony" found dead after ransom was paid in BTC
Post by: CBG81 on January 29, 2019, 05:53:14 PM
Here's the story update ( suspect are in custody ) (https://lcb.org/news/5dimes-tonys-kidnappers-get-6-months-in-custody)