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Title: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: noma45 on October 26, 2018, 11:14:38 AM
Good day guys, we all have noticed that so many projects tend to loose high value of their token after they have listed in exchanges. One of the cause is the way bounty hunters will want to dump their tokens and move over to the other available project.
There is a remedy to this and here is my suggestion.

- I Advice projects to pay bounty hunters with Ethereum or Bitcoin and by so doing, they retain the value of their token after they must have listed in an exchange or exchanges.

if any bounty hunter is interested in the project, they can use the ETH or BTC reward they got from the project and purchase the tokens.

Guys what is your opinion on this?


Thank you


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: supermine on October 26, 2018, 11:21:46 AM
Good day guys, we all have noticed that so many projects tend to loose high value of their token after they have listed in exchanges. One of the cause is the way bounty hunters will want to dump their tokens and move over to the other available project.
There is a remedy to this and here is my suggestion.

- I Advice projects to pay bounty hunters with Ethereum or Bitcoin and by so doing, they retain the value of their token after they must have listed in an exchange or exchanges.

if any bounty hunter is interested in the project, they can use the ETH or BTC reward they got from the project and purchase the tokens.

Guys what is your opinion on this?


Thank you
So many tokens losing their value because of bounty hunters? Absolutely not because they are allocating only tiny of total tokens created so which is not enough to bring the prices that much lower.This is happening because of the investors who sells their tokens soon when it listed because they consider this as short term investment.

That is a good suggestion to pay the participants with already listed coins which not only reduce the dump of the coin and also can sweep from the scam bounties and ICOs.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: javadsalehi on October 26, 2018, 11:33:25 AM
Good day guys, we all have noticed that so many projects tend to loose high value of their token after they have listed in exchanges. One of the cause is the way bounty hunters will want to dump their tokens and move over to the other available project.
There is a remedy to this and here is my suggestion.

- I Advice projects to pay bounty hunters with Ethereum or Bitcoin and by so doing, they retain the value of their token after they must have listed in an exchange or exchanges.

if any bounty hunter is interested in the project, they can use the ETH or BTC reward they got from the project and purchase the tokens.

Guys what is your opinion on this?


Thank you
It's a good idea to pay bounty hunters with Ethereum or bitcoin. But I don't think bounty hunters are the reason of that price falls. Prices usually decrease before bounties are distributed. Also, those tokens that didn't have bounty at falling.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: yescrypto on October 26, 2018, 11:36:51 AM
Common bro, I hate seeing this it's just like blaming a marketer and keep calm with the buyers because they pay for the product Hun. What do you have to say about the investors who hold alot more of the token and can do whatever they like with it as soon as it make them profit. Paying them with eth isn't the point here, blame no one for dumping because no matter price you sell what you are holding you are also a dumper.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: BQ on October 26, 2018, 11:39:12 AM
only a small % is usually given to the bounties, hardly that can be the reason behind the price drop.
it's usually the founders or people who got to buy in early+cheaper who dumps.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: btcluisdiki on October 26, 2018, 12:04:34 PM
I had been observing this kind of situation where this is usually what happens to the token after being listed in the exchange market where market value drops. I also believe that the bounty hunters token dumping is the main reason for this price drop since the allocated percentage for the bounties is just partly small. I think the proposal paying the bounty hunters in ETH or BTC could be a better idea and I agree with it. Perhaps, this may not hardly impact the token price in the exchange listing.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: Sylvial on October 26, 2018, 12:06:40 PM
Good day guys, we all have noticed that so many projects tend to loose high value of their token after they have listed in exchanges. One of the cause is the way bounty hunters will want to dump their tokens and move over to the other available project.
There is a remedy to this and here is my suggestion.

- I Advice projects to pay bounty hunters with Ethereum or Bitcoin and by so doing, they retain the value of their token after they must have listed in an exchange or exchanges.

if any bounty hunter is interested in the project, they can use the ETH or BTC reward they got from the project and purchase the tokens.

Guys what is your opinion on this?

Thank you

Bounty hunters aren't the sole cause of the dump tokens experience upon. Remember these ICOs also give huge bonuses to private investors and VCs, some of these tokens have no lock-in periods by these ICOs and as such they dump these tokens at the exchange too.

So projects, can maintain the value of their tokens after exchange listing by doing the following;

1. Have lock-in periods for bonuses ab initio. Should be 6 months to 1 year post listing.
2. Projects should continue with marketing of the project and ensuring it remains in public view. What we've noticed is that a lot of projects simply ignore the marketing angle after their ICO and expect the community to do it for them, which in my opinion is wrong.



Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: Adreman23 on October 26, 2018, 12:24:33 PM
Good day guys, we all have noticed that so many projects tend to loose high value of their token after they have listed in exchanges. One of the cause is the way bounty hunters will want to dump their tokens and move over to the other available project.
There is a remedy to this and here is my suggestion.

- I Advice projects to pay bounty hunters with Ethereum or Bitcoin and by so doing, they retain the value of their token after they must have listed in an exchange or exchanges.

if any bounty hunter is interested in the project, they can use the ETH or BTC reward they got from the project and purchase the tokens.

Guys what is your opinion on this?


Thank you
I think no project wants to pay ethereum or bitcoin for bounty hunters maybe because if they do some bounty hunters will buy other token or altcoins which is considered as their competitors. On the other hand if they are paid bounty hunters with their own token it also help to gain more volume for their token even bounty hunters dump the token/coins.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: syarifbitcoinishack on October 26, 2018, 12:30:58 PM
Good day guys, we all have noticed that so many projects tend to loose high value of their token after they have listed in exchanges. One of the cause is the way bounty hunters will want to dump their tokens and move over to the other available project.
There is a remedy to this and here is my suggestion.

- I Advice projects to pay bounty hunters with Ethereum or Bitcoin and by so doing, they retain the value of their token after they must have listed in an exchange or exchanges.

if any bounty hunter is interested in the project, they can use the ETH or BTC reward they got from the project and purchase the tokens.

Guys what is your opinion on this?

Thank you

Bounty hunters aren't the sole cause of the dump tokens experience upon. Remember these ICOs also give huge bonuses to private investors and VCs, some of these tokens have no lock-in periods by these ICOs and as such they dump these tokens at the exchange too.

So projects, can maintain the value of their tokens after exchange listing by doing the following;

1. Have lock-in periods for bonuses ab initio. Should be 6 months to 1 year post listing.
2. Projects should continue with marketing of the project and ensuring it remains in public view. What we've noticed is that a lot of projects simply ignore the marketing angle after their ICO and expect the community to do it for them, which in my opinion is wrong.



I agree, not only bounty hunters that can make prices drop significantly because some ICO provide up to 90% purchase bonuses in private sale and pre-sale to investors
Exchange Union is one of the ICO that give rewards in ETH to bounty hunters, and this has no impact on price of tokens on the market. So I agree if the bounty is paid in Bitcoin or Etherum


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: BravO_o on October 26, 2018, 12:33:53 PM
Good day guys, we all have noticed that so many projects tend to loose high value of their token after they have listed in exchanges. One of the cause is the way bounty hunters will want to dump their tokens and move over to the other available project.
There is a remedy to this and here is my suggestion.

- I Advice projects to pay bounty hunters with Ethereum or Bitcoin and by so doing, they retain the value of their token after they must have listed in an exchange or exchanges.

if any bounty hunter is interested in the project, they can use the ETH or BTC reward they got from the project and purchase the tokens.

Guys what is your opinion on this?


Thank you
Not all projects deal with such things. But I know those that support about the same course of your tokens with the help of a bot. And on its own stock exchange.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: baigreen on October 26, 2018, 12:39:31 PM
Good day guys, we all have noticed that so many projects tend to loose high value of their token after they have listed in exchanges. One of the cause is the way bounty hunters will want to dump their tokens and move over to the other available project.
There is a remedy to this and here is my suggestion.

- I Advice projects to pay bounty hunters with Ethereum or Bitcoin and by so doing, they retain the value of their token after they must have listed in an exchange or exchanges.

if any bounty hunter is interested in the project, they can use the ETH or BTC reward they got from the project and purchase the tokens.

Guys what is your opinion on this?


Thank you

 ;D I would agree to get Bitcoin for the job. ;D

However, the fact is that companies are simply not profitable. The project needs to spread its coins around the world. Through bounty hunters, through a team of managers, through investors. Therefore, one can only dream of such a mechanism. You can see for yourself that sometimes tokens are worth nothing. And so the project will have to give money.

It should be a smart project that can afford it.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: MikeyVeez on October 26, 2018, 12:41:23 PM
Good day guys, we all have noticed that so many projects tend to loose high value of their token after they have listed in exchanges. One of the cause is the way bounty hunters will want to dump their tokens and move over to the other available project.
There is a remedy to this and here is my suggestion.

- I Advice projects to pay bounty hunters with Ethereum or Bitcoin and by so doing, they retain the value of their token after they must have listed in an exchange or exchanges.

if any bounty hunter is interested in the project, they can use the ETH or BTC reward they got from the project and purchase the tokens.

Guys what is your opinion on this?


Thank you
Do you think that ICOs really care about the price after token listing? They dont, thats why we see that 99% of ICOs are listed for half or quarter value and who cares?
Those who wants to buy, buy cheap and those are selling are only bounty hunters, they also do not care, they want money as soon as possible.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: Remainder on October 26, 2018, 12:48:52 PM
So many ICO project even thus successful once before are can't maintain the value of their token, you can't also blame bounty hunters because they just want to earn from their job, it is all depend on the project if it is worth to invest or not.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: criptoman83 on October 26, 2018, 12:51:24 PM
It's a great idea to pay bounty hunters in bitcoin and ETH, I think most hunters would be happy.  ;) Sometimes the devs do so. But sometimes it is not profitable for the project, because they collected funds for certain needs, and for some even 1% on the ETH - it's a lot. With tokens easier, you released and sent, and 1-2% in the tokens of the whole issue, it's quite a bit and cannot lower the rate of the coin, even if all the bounty hunters decide on to sell 100% of their savings. Which I highly doubt.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: limtjoehua on October 26, 2018, 01:04:58 PM
only a small % is usually given to the bounties, hardly that can be the reason behind the price drop.
it's usually the founders or people who got to buy in early+cheaper who dumps.
That is the truth, the bounty is only a small part of the allocation, only 1% - 3% and less than the bonus given to investors. Look at the bonus offered by an ico, even for whitelist participants and the bonus pre sales can reach 50%, isn't that crazy? So they will dump all the bonuses to return the capital and anticipate if one day the project will die.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: MinedTangerine on October 26, 2018, 01:24:50 PM
Well its simple, you need to create demand for coins. Either you have demand because the coin is scarce and valued like in Bitcoin or you create demand by forcing users to buy your coins to use some feature of your product. Utility tokens do this for instance.

To create demand you need to have a solid foundations and development or hype a lot. But hype is short lived.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: Noobaru on October 26, 2018, 09:52:44 PM
I still don't think that bounty hunters are the main problem for tokens dumping so hard after exchanges. Some projects dump their tokens too. But the real problem are the pre-sale investors, who get tokens at discount even up to 50% and of course they are going to dump it as soon they hit exchange, because of the profit.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: muncuss on October 26, 2018, 11:54:41 PM
Well its simple, you need to create demand for coins. Either you have demand because the coin is scarce and valued like in Bitcoin or you create demand by forcing users to buy your coins to use some feature of your product. Utility tokens do this for instance.

To create demand you need to have a solid foundations and development or hype a lot. But hype is short lived.
even best utility token can't maintain its price. They need adoption and adoption need time. when it listed on exchange, some private investor ready to dump their huge bag and price can fall in no time


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: cryptowolfsu on October 27, 2018, 12:13:49 AM

Bounty allocations are usually 1-2% or even below. How can 1 % of  the token supply influence  the price long term ?
It is better to distribute the bounty rewards after the token is already listed on exchanges  and have enough trading volume.



Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: Bergqvist on October 28, 2018, 03:00:04 AM
Dumping of tokens by the bounty hunters is not the only reason for losing their value. But it is agood idea though. Its a good idea to retain the value of their token after they have listed in exchanges.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: StephanHofmann on October 28, 2018, 04:01:12 AM
They are allocating only tiny of total tokens created so which is not enough to bring the prices that much lower. This is happening because of the investor who sells their tokens soon when it listed because they consider this as short term investment. It's a good idea to pay bounty hunters with Ethereum or Bitcoin.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: Jazmyn Salazar on October 28, 2018, 04:18:11 PM
The price drop really isn't related to the activities of the bounty hunters in that way. This happens because the investors sell their coins as soon as it is listed on the exchange because they consider it a short term investment. In order for an ICO to have a good value it is much a responsibility to investors as it is to the ICO. It also is a good idea to pay participants with already listed coins which doesn't only stop the dump of coins but also sweeps the scam bounties and ICOs


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: drgomez89 on October 28, 2018, 04:42:26 PM
it doesnt matter the first week a proyect  list their token in a exchange because thats when the bounty hunter  (most of them) sell their token , the ssmart ones and the one who doesnt need the money right away tend to wait some months and sometimes years because this is when the proyect could get their best of the proyect itself and the people really want to join their proyects and that makees the tokens more profitable


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: terible.hunter on October 28, 2018, 04:45:24 PM
The value of the project is established by the interest of people in this project, and the idea should be generated by the idea of ​​the project itself and long-term investors will begin to invest in the project and buy out the tokens from speculators, who still work and continue to work in the market.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: tycsols on October 28, 2018, 05:43:07 PM
Well for me the only way for the team to maintain or support the token price is performance, if they keep their promises and deliever according to roadmap targets plus actively communicate with the community then there is no reason why people will not like to buy more and the demand will be created that will keep the value up.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: Rhoenia09 on October 30, 2018, 03:53:15 PM
Most investors in the ICO prematurley sell the token as they think of it as a short term investment. This mentality should be changed to influence the big picture.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: Haarekon03 on October 30, 2018, 03:53:39 PM
Bounty hunters dumping their tokens is one of the main reason for loosing value of a project after exchange listing. Many good and innovative projects loose their value for this reason alone. So integrating bitcoin or ethereum reward into the projects seems like a very good idea.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: SnowDawn on October 30, 2018, 03:58:44 PM
That would be just great, but many would not agree to do so: it’s easier for them to distribute tokens that they won’t do anyway)The meaning boils down to one thing: everyone is trying to hold an ICO to get valuable Bitcoin and Ethereum and sell their often unnecessary tokens. Few projects that are worth anything at all. Therefore, no one would agree to pay in ethereum or bitcoin.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: Eowaenad22 on October 30, 2018, 04:06:13 PM
I think the projects are somewhat responsible for this dump. After listing done, the development tends to slow down, innovations hardly come by. In fact good projects fall victim to this scenarios as well since people assume this is just another one of those. But I do agree with your idea of integrating bitcoin and/or ethereum. This way a good amount of investment can be made which could be beneficial to the respective coins.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: Glelilian113 on October 30, 2018, 04:06:27 PM
I think your proposal is really interesting and this could come effortlessly handy in cases of big piles of dump. Payment in bitcoin and etherum will bring lots of investment. But I don't agree with the fact that only bounty hunters cause this kind of price dump since only a few people fall into that category.


Title: Re: HOW PROJECTS CAN MAINTAIN THE VALUE OF THEIR TOKENS AFTER EXCHANGE LISTING
Post by: masterrex on October 30, 2018, 04:30:30 PM
Good day guys, we all have noticed that so many projects tend to loose high value of their token after they have listed in exchanges. One of the cause is the way bounty hunters will want to dump their tokens and move over to the other available project.
There is a remedy to this and here is my suggestion.

- I Advice projects to pay bounty hunters with Ethereum or Bitcoin and by so doing, they retain the value of their token after they must have listed in an exchange or exchanges.

if any bounty hunter is interested in the project, they can use the ETH or BTC reward they got from the project and purchase the tokens.

Guys what is your opinion on this?


Thank you
For me the best thing to do is to "BUY BACK" usually when the coin/token are already traded it depends on demand and supply and if the platform has a base product to show/offer the price of coin/token will not dip much since most of the people who buy the token/coin was speculating and hoping that price will climb due to the product and utilization the price will eventually grow. And i like your suggestion if they believe that the "Bounty People" will cause the price to dip instead of paying through their token its better to pay via Ether,BTC or any coin they like as long as they have a stable price and value.