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Title: Merkel not seeking Reelection!
Post by: squatz1 on October 29, 2018, 02:30:33 PM
Crazy to see, after being at the helm for about 16 years Angela Merkel is going to be stepping down from her position in her own party and then will not be seeking the role of chancellor in the next election.

Not surprising to say the least, after the recent election her coalition government is most likely going to dissolve as the other side has hinted they're going to do. Right (or even far right) leaning parites have seen massive gains as the open borders movement from Angela Merkel is being frowned upon by her voters.

Check out the article here - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46020745 - This is going to be a fun chat.


Title: Re: Merkel not seeking Reelection!
Post by: Flying Hellfish on October 29, 2018, 03:20:44 PM
Crazy to see, after being at the helm for about 16 years Angela Merkel is going to be stepping down from her position in her own party and then will not be seeking the role of chancellor in the next election.

Not surprising to say the least, after the recent election her coalition government is most likely going to dissolve as the other side has hinted they're going to do. Right (or even far right) leaning parites have seen massive gains as the open borders movement from Angela Merkel is being frowned upon by her voters.

Check out the article here - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46020745 - This is going to be a fun chat.

Oh my, angry German far right nationalist, that has always been a good thing for the rest of the world!...  ::)


Title: Re: Merkel not seeking Reelection!
Post by: theymos on October 29, 2018, 05:13:13 PM
Very interesting... When I think of the "center-left globalists" who seemed overwhelmingly powerful in Obama's era, I think primarily of Merkel, Obama, Soros, Hillary Clinton, David Cameron, and Trudeau, who are mostly gone or waning. That faction is still very much around, but they seem a lot weaker, and fading.

It makes me a bit uncomfortable, since while I don't like that faction at all, I also don't like the nationalists who seem to be picking up steam. I do very much hope that the EU crashes and burns, though, since the EU is a totally anti-freedom institution run by a small handful of people who want to engineer society to their whims, and having many small independent states tends to provide more total freedom than fewer large ones.

I don't follow German politics much; how do things look there? Will there be any actual change from the status quo? It looks like the Green Party is gaining, but that sounds like a group that would want to just tweak things around the edges, not make major changes.


Title: Re: Merkel not seeking Reelection!
Post by: dogtana on October 29, 2018, 05:41:33 PM
Merkel is called Pandora here. The fear now is she opened up a can of worms and noone else will want to keep cleaning up her mess. If she steps down as chancellor, it will wreck havoc. I think we will be facing mass deportations now and unrest in the countries where people are deported to. Nationalist parties may gain even bigger momentum. It won't be pretty.


Title: Re: Merkel not seeking Reelection!
Post by: squatz1 on October 30, 2018, 07:22:07 PM
Very interesting... When I think of the "center-left globalists" who seemed overwhelmingly powerful in Obama's era, I think primarily of Merkel, Obama, Soros, Hillary Clinton, David Cameron, and Trudeau, who are mostly gone or waning. That faction is still very much around, but they seem a lot weaker, and fading.

It makes me a bit uncomfortable, since while I don't like that faction at all, I also don't like the nationalists who seem to be picking up steam. I do very much hope that the EU crashes and burns, though, since the EU is a totally anti-freedom institution run by a small handful of people who want to engineer society to their whims, and having many small independent states tends to provide more total freedom than fewer large ones.

I don't follow German politics much; how do things look there? Will there be any actual change from the status quo? It looks like the Green Party is gaining, but that sounds like a group that would want to just tweak things around the edges, not make major changes.

While this may not be fully correct, I do think that this is a reaction of the policies that were created under the Merkel (and her coalitions) government. Some people feel that the ones that they most align with is with these far right groups (which are crazily picking up steam in Germany of all places.

I don't think we're going to see much real change though, as Germany is typically pretty leftist in all of its polices and these groups show no ability to form a government among people that are just right shifting when it comes to policy.

Probably no real change, just a little closer to the middle from a pretty far left leaning political electorate to begin with.

Not a fan of the EU as well, seems like a pretty horrid system if you're a member state. At least in the sense of giving up your ability to have control over economic legislation (and other things, as we've seen the EU delving into as of current)