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Title: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: becak mesin on November 01, 2018, 12:47:04 AM
There are various reasons and risks from Cryptocurrency including:
1. As in the form of digital assets, it is easily misused for financial system crimes such as money laundering.
2. The absence of a clear system, makes cryptocurrency vulnerable to malfunctions that ultimately harm users.
3. Crypto assets have the potential for financial crime (fraud), security violations and operating failures.

       For this reason Cryptocurrency cannot be legally accepted and even banned in some countries. All definitely have strong and wise reasons such for the safety and comfort of the user in the country. Therefore, I think it is time for stakeholders in various countries, especially in countries whereas crypto-capitalexchanges trading ecosystems is high, must think about creating and compiling clear regulations related to cryptocurrency to prevent future potential problems. Because we know Cryptocurrency has become an unavoidable necessity and Crypto is not for us to avoid but must be seen as a potential for benefit and global progress.

       Besides of the regulation of Cryptocurrency itself, the main problem is to prevent and avoid irresponsible individuals who have the potential to do other bitcoin or crypto washing, or theft of Cryptocurrency.

I question my self that do we can be free or stay away from fraud?


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: pooya87 on November 01, 2018, 05:02:59 AM
There are various reasons and risks from Cryptocurrency including:
1. As in the form of digital assets, it is easily misused for financial system crimes such as money laundering.
3. Crypto assets have the potential for financial crime (fraud), security violations and operating failures.
these two are the same. and are wrong. it is much harder to use cryptocurrency as a means for illegal activities because of lack of adoption and also lack of anonymity for bitcoin and most others. not to mention volatility that people always ignore when it suites them.

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2. The absence of a clear system, makes cryptocurrency vulnerable to malfunctions that ultimately harm users.
what do you mean by "clear system"?

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       For this reason Cryptocurrency cannot be legally accepted and even banned in some countries.
not at all. so far majority of countries have nothing against bitcoin. and those that have never had these reasons for their behavior. they always do it because they can not control a decentralized currency and/or tax it!

p.s. regulations aren't going to solve anything.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Marcel666 on November 01, 2018, 07:22:46 AM
The first comment already covered most of your skepticism.
May I just add that there is clear distinction between bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. And each is unique, and most times unrelated.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: nicster551 on November 01, 2018, 08:23:42 AM
There are various reasons and risks from Cryptocurrency including:
1. As in the form of digital assets, it is easily misused for financial system crimes such as money laundering.
2. The absence of a clear system, makes cryptocurrency vulnerable to malfunctions that ultimately harm users.
3. Crypto assets have the potential for financial crime (fraud), security violations and operating failures.

       For this reason Cryptocurrency cannot be legally accepted and even banned in some countries. All definitely have strong and wise reasons such for the safety and comfort of the user in the country. Therefore, I think it is time for stakeholders in various countries, especially in countries whereas crypto-capitalexchanges trading ecosystems is high, must think about creating and compiling clear regulations related to cryptocurrency to prevent future potential problems. Because we know Cryptocurrency has become an unavoidable necessity and Crypto is not for us to avoid but must be seen as a potential for benefit and global progress.

       Besides of the regulation of Cryptocurrency itself, the main problem is to prevent and avoid irresponsible individuals who have the potential to do other bitcoin or crypto washing, or theft of Cryptocurrency.

I question my self that do we can be free or stay away from fraud?


Bitcoin is not totally ban though, but there are certain countries that bans it from using crypto (if they catch you). Still you can go and  use it just don't be caught.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: dothebeats on November 01, 2018, 08:34:49 AM
There are various reasons and risks from Cryptocurrency including:
1. As in the form of digital assets, it is easily misused for financial system crimes such as money laundering.
2. The absence of a clear system, makes cryptocurrency vulnerable to malfunctions that ultimately harm users.

Isn't it ironic that fiat currency has a clear system with easily understandable laws and regulations yet it still is a vehicle for money laundering and fraud? You can't simply bat an eye on bitcoin by ignoring the facts that is also present in fiat.

3. Crypto assets have the potential for financial crime (fraud), security violations and operating failures.

So does fiat ucrrency, but we aren't pinning it down so hard are we?

       For this reason Cryptocurrency cannot be legally accepted and even banned in some countries. All definitely have strong and wise reasons such for the safety and comfort of the user in the country. Therefore, I think it is time for stakeholders in various countries, especially in countries whereas crypto-capitalexchanges trading ecosystems is high, must think about creating and compiling clear regulations related to cryptocurrency to prevent future potential problems. Because we know Cryptocurrency has become an unavoidable necessity and Crypto is not for us to avoid but must be seen as a potential for benefit and global progress.

       Besides of the regulation of Cryptocurrency itself, the main problem is to prevent and avoid irresponsible individuals who have the potential to do other bitcoin or crypto washing, or theft of Cryptocurrency.

I question my self that do we can be free or stay away from fraud?


Even though bitcoin has these sort of weakness and vulnerability (well fiat currency also has these), it certainly proved its place in the financial world since people and companies still trusted it by investing and buying it. Money can never be freed from fraud as this ignites the greed from people. Even with a clearly devised system, fraud will never be eliminated.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Rashid555 on November 01, 2018, 08:56:53 AM
To my knowledge people have talked much about bitcoin bane and it's rejected from the world but still they are not successful and it won't be true even we will not see that time when bitcoin will reject from the world and it is not controllable so people can use it every where in the world with out any further force and people use it for their good usage now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: nebuch on November 01, 2018, 08:58:29 AM
Ironically, to make it simple it seems better to banned yourself from bitcoin than banned bitcoin. Once you've banned from this, then assuming you won't ever have a problem with regards to this matter.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Rain Drops on November 01, 2018, 09:00:27 AM
Bitcoin is one of the coins in the crypto world. Which are priced from all the coins. If everything is destroyed in the crypto world, then Bitcoin will not be bitten any day. Wherever one can say Bitcoin is the best.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: BlackPanda on November 01, 2018, 09:04:12 AM
To my knowledge people have talked much about bitcoin bane and it's rejected from the world but still they are not successful and it won't be true even we will not see that time when bitcoin will reject from the world and it is not controllable so people can use it every where in the world with out any further force and people use it for their good usage now.
For me, Bitcoin is something that can change the financial system in a big way. With the strength that exists, Bitcoin can have a tremendous impact on the financial system that has existed at this time. I am optimistic that Bitcoin can be accepted by society and we all only need time so that it can all become a reality.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: stompix on November 01, 2018, 09:04:26 AM
There are various reasons and risks from Cryptocurrency including:
1. As in the form of digital assets, it is easily misused for financial system crimes such as money laundering.
3. Crypto assets have the potential for financial crime (fraud), security violations and operating failures.
these two are the same. and are wrong. it is much harder to use cryptocurrency as a means for illegal activities because of lack of adoption and also lack of anonymity for bitcoin and most others. not to mention volatility that people always ignore when it suites them.

But wouldn't that change 180 degrees once we reach a greater adoption of both cryptos in general and LN especially for BTC?
I don't see BTC for a solution for money laundering but for taking bribes or undeclared payments it's almost perfect.
Nothing special, of course to at the scale of normal fiat but we shouldn't fool ourselves in believing it's not done.

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what do you mean by "clear system"?

Guess... a centralized system where transactions are reversible, the price is controlled, every wallet is tied to an id and more wonderful stuff like this, /s


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: avikz on November 01, 2018, 09:14:56 AM
There are various reasons and risks from Cryptocurrency including:
1. As in the form of digital assets, it is easily misused for financial system crimes such as money laundering.
2. The absence of a clear system, makes cryptocurrency vulnerable to malfunctions that ultimately harm users.
3. Crypto assets have the potential for financial crime (fraud), security violations and operating failures.

1 and 3. Both points look similar to me! Do you think fiat was never used for money laundering or financial crime?? Cryptos came into picture just 10 years back, what was there prior to that?? Think through!!

2. The system of cryptos are very clear, only the system of governments and regulators towards cryptos are not clear! That is major bottleneck towards the mass adoption of crypto. That's a valid point so check your local law before you jump in to the crypto scene!

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For this reason Cryptocurrency cannot be legally accepted and even banned in some countries. All definitely have strong and wise reasons such for the safety and comfort of the user in the country. Therefore, I think it is time for stakeholders in various countries, especially in countries whereas crypto-capitalexchanges trading ecosystems is high, must think about creating and compiling clear regulations related to cryptocurrency to prevent future potential problems. Because we know Cryptocurrency has become an unavoidable necessity and Crypto is not for us to avoid but must be seen as a potential for benefit and global progress.

Check my above reply! Some progressive countries like Japan and Germany have accepted cryptos to be adopted within the mainstream economy! However, there are some backward thinking countries like India and Bangladesh have banned it from being a legal tender! However, that doesn't stop us from adopting crypto because we have a huge p2p market available for trading cryptos! But the way crypto has progressed in just 10 years, it shows that blockchain and cryptos are the future drivers for the economy! Either you become an early adopter or stay with the tide!

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Besides of the regulation of Cryptocurrency itself, the main problem is to prevent and avoid irresponsible individuals who have the potential to do other bitcoin or crypto washing, or theft of Cryptocurrency.

I question my self that do we can be free or stay away from fraud?

This is a very serious concern! The way fiat used to be a toll for financial crimes worldwide, now cryptos are being used! Good and bad always go hand in hand and we can't really eliminate the one for another! The best way to avoid such bad things can be achievable through proper education! There is no other way we can avoid such things and it is also not possible to completely eradicate bad things from an eco system!


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: talkbitcoin on November 01, 2018, 09:30:35 AM
you can not say that as long as the thing you are comparing bitcoin with is a flawed and full of fraud system.
you are saying bitcoin should be like fiat that is regulated and controlled because bitcoin may have been used for fraudulent activities such as money laundering but fiat that you think is good, is being used in fraudulent activities now!


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: becak mesin on November 01, 2018, 01:33:57 PM

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what do you mean by "clear system"?

            Firstly I would say sorry for my English, I am trying my best for it. "Clear system" I mean that official laws or regulations of the use Cryptocurrency that can anticipate and avoid from fraud. And these for safety and pleasure of investors and users.

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not at all. so far majority of countries have nothing against bitcoin. and those that have never had these reasons for their behavior. they always do it because they can not control a decentralized currency and/or tax it!

p.s. regulations aren't going to solve anything.

I already recognize about it that many countries are very welcome to the existence of Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency for the big opportunity of it. And I personally want to see Cryptocurrency used in global world, therefore I ask about the regulations. Will laws or regulations harm or break down Crypto? I don't think so.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Lomberjack on November 01, 2018, 01:40:18 PM
I hope bitcoin will not be banned even not in my country because it really helps the people who are in need. Bitcoin makes people lives better and easier. They make money faster.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: becak mesin on November 01, 2018, 01:49:28 PM
you can not say that as long as the thing you are comparing bitcoin with is a flawed and full of fraud system.
you are saying bitcoin should be like fiat that is regulated and controlled because bitcoin may have been used for fraudulent activities such as money laundering but fiat that you think is good, is being used in fraudulent activities now!

Is being regulated means controlled? No. I don not mean that. Regulation I mean that such creating a wall to protect all investor assets safe. I know that even real fiat is actually used for fraudulent activities as you said. What I ask is that is it quit complicated protecting Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency from such criminal activities.

It will look exciting if Crypto is stay away from any fraudulent activities because the trust will be well developed in the community of people.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: John5826 on November 01, 2018, 01:58:11 PM
There are various reasons and risks from Cryptocurrency including:
As in the form of digital assets, it is easily misused for financial system crimes such as money laundering.The absence of a clear system, makes cryptocurrency vulnerable to malfunctions that ultimately harm users.Crypto assets have the potential for financial crime (fraud), security violations and operating failures.
For this resons some country banned.But it is legal acivities.So leagal acivities is not finished.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Magkirap on November 01, 2018, 02:01:47 PM
I hope bitcoin will not be banned even not in my country because it really helps the people who are in need. Bitcoin makes people lives better and easier. They make money faster.
Everyone want to not banned bitcoin but because of the people using it in a bad things many governments start to banned it. I think because of that bad news about cryptocurrencies the image of it especially bitcoin will be ruin and it is totally bad. Bitcoin will really make your life better and easier but I hope in the near future bitcoin will become legal and all government will accept it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: becak mesin on November 01, 2018, 02:12:35 PM

 "However, that doesn't stop us from adopting crypto because we have a huge p2p market available for trading cryptos! But the way crypto has progressed in just 10 years, it shows that blockchain and cryptos are the future drivers for the economy! Either you become an early adopter or stay with the tide!"

           I absolutely agree about that, those issues of Crypto banning in some countries should not stop us from adopting Crypto because it is big opportunity and potential for future. Crypto and Blockchain technology are not only used in financial services, it is actually can be used in any industry.

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This is a very serious concern! The way fiat used to be a toll for financial crimes worldwide, now cryptos are being used! Good and bad always go hand in hand and we can't really eliminate the one for another! The best way to avoid such bad things can be achievable through proper education! There is no
other way we can avoid such things and it is also not possible to completely eradicate bad things from an eco system!

           That is great idea, the is no other ways to avoid such fraud and any bad things but great Education. It should be built from early age, earlier age is better and more efficient. Therefore, it can be began from small area. Beginning from our self to be good and responsible users of Bitcoin.




Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: mensahkkofie on November 01, 2018, 03:09:12 PM
Bitcoin is widely accepted by people who understand the philosophy behind bitcoin, those who wish bitcoin to fall are those who dont understand the vision behind this amazing digital currency. Even in the physical world, people have various means of going about illegal activities such as money laundry hence people should treat bitcoin with the full respect that it deserves.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: demenBTC on November 01, 2018, 03:45:16 PM
There are various reasons and risks from Cryptocurrency including:
1. As in the form of digital assets, it is easily misused for financial system crimes such as money laundering.
in this case you say bitcoin is easy to use for crimes such as money laundering, then what you think about fiat, is fiat really safe and free from money laundering? the answer is no! in fact many cases in each country use fiat as money laundering


2. The absence of a clear system, makes cryptocurrency vulnerable to malfunctions that ultimately harm users.
in fact, the crypto system is more clear and transparent to use, user convenience has been proven

3. Crypto assets have the potential for financial crime (fraud), security violations and operating failures.
in this case you are wrong, you must learn more about crypto / bitcoin technology


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: antoarwadi on November 01, 2018, 04:02:43 PM
There are various reasons and risks from Cryptocurrency including:
1. As in the form of digital assets, it is easily misused for financial system crimes such as money laundering.
2. The absence of a clear system, makes cryptocurrency vulnerable to malfunctions that ultimately harm users.
3. Crypto assets have the potential for financial crime (fraud), security violations and operating failures.

       For this reason Cryptocurrency cannot be legally accepted and even banned in some countries. All definitely have strong and wise reasons such for the safety and comfort of the user in the country. Therefore, I think it is time for stakeholders in various countries, especially in countries whereas crypto-capitalexchanges trading ecosystems is high, must think about creating and compiling clear regulations related to cryptocurrency to prevent future potential problems. Because we know Cryptocurrency has become an unavoidable necessity and Crypto is not for us to avoid but must be seen as a potential for benefit and global progress.

       Besides of the regulation of Cryptocurrency itself, the main problem is to prevent and avoid irresponsible individuals who have the potential to do other bitcoin or crypto washing, or theft of Cryptocurrency.

I question my self that do we can be free or stay away from fraud?

Only a few countries forbid Bitcoin and crypto in their area, but that doesn't affect because other Bitcoin and crypto can still be accessed via the internet, the crime of using crypto cannot be separated because crypto has anonymity that maintains the privacy of its users. but that's only a few people who use it for acts of crime, and more help people in solving everyday problems.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: millgates on November 01, 2018, 04:34:25 PM
Those risk is come from the users habbit itself. About fraud and other financial crime is focused on each person who get involved in it. I am also a victim of fraud, I have looked for bitcoin service but unfortunately I visited fake website and l have lost my bitcoin there, and then I think again, it's not bitcoin faulty but it's pure cybercrime and my shortcomings. I have to be more careful to visit any site. So any bad thinga is not from bitcoin buy from people, so bitcoin is not to banned or rejected.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 03, 2018, 03:58:39 AM
~snip

I question my self that do we can be free or stay away from fraud?


I don't think that we can be free or stay away from fraud because there is no guarantee we can get 100% safe from the attacker. There is a risk of everything we do for our life, and it's related to other people. But we can prevent from getting a bad experience with securing the account we have.

Cryptocurrency can accepted in all country, but it depends on the government itself because they have the power to accept or deny something that they don't want. I am sure that in the future, there will be regulations for cryptocurrency that will protect the crypto user from the fraud and money laundering so people can be safe to use cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: MMS2017 on November 03, 2018, 04:42:23 AM
If we look at bitcoin importance and it's value to people in the world are expanding day by day so we can not say that bitcoin can be banned or rejected but it's value will be more beneficial to the world in the past bitcoin were successfully used for trade and now it is the good investment for us because in crypto is our future if we work hard.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: pooya87 on November 03, 2018, 04:47:39 AM
There are various reasons and risks from Cryptocurrency including:
1. As in the form of digital assets, it is easily misused for financial system crimes such as money laundering.
3. Crypto assets have the potential for financial crime (fraud), security violations and operating failures.
these two are the same. and are wrong. it is much harder to use cryptocurrency as a means for illegal activities because of lack of adoption and also lack of anonymity for bitcoin and most others. not to mention volatility that people always ignore when it suites them.

But wouldn't that change 180 degrees once we reach a greater adoption of both cryptos in general and LN especially for BTC?
I don't see BTC for a solution for money laundering but for taking bribes or undeclared payments it's almost perfect.
Nothing special, of course to at the scale of normal fiat but we shouldn't fool ourselves in believing it's not done.

there is no difference between one illegal act and another. whether they are accepting bribes or laundering money or buying drugs,... in all cases bitcoin is not anonymous and can be traced. and it is a matter of comparison. for example would you prefer being bribed in cash or in bitcoin when cash can never be traced while bitcoin can! not to mention the public ledger for all the world to see :D

what do you mean by "clear system"?
            Firstly I would say sorry for my English, I am trying my best for it. "Clear system" I mean that official laws or regulations of the use Cryptocurrency that can anticipate and avoid from fraud. And these for safety and pleasure of investors and users.

that would require centralizing the system for the "laws" to work. and that is never going to happen.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Indrawan77 on November 03, 2018, 05:04:43 AM
I think because bitcoin is decentralised then comes out so many negative problem, but the one that makes all the problem occur is the human, fiat also being used for money laundering but I never heard anyone try to banned fiat, bitcoin just a medium, so its a bit funny to see people try to banned bitcoin


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: S4VV4S on November 03, 2018, 05:12:47 AM
I think because bitcoin is decentralised then comes out so many negative problem, but the one that makes all the problem occur is the human, fiat also being used for money laundering but I never heard anyone try to banned fiat, bitcoin just a medium, so its a bit funny to see people try to banned bitcoin
That's because they're still less their knowledge about Bitcoin, so they think that Bitcoin is widely used for the negative. The Government just has not been legalized Bitcoin but also not make illegal Bitcoin, something that violates the law.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Siren on November 03, 2018, 05:15:03 AM

~snip~


Bitcoin is not totally ban though, but there are certain countries that bans it from using crypto (if they catch you). Still you can go and  use it just don't be caught.
Your right on that mate,banning crypto means you have no access to do such,the only problem is if you been caught and thats another issue,what iam saying here is we still have the freedom over governments,and regulations has nothing to do to help this community.instead we are the one who’s responsible for whatever cryptocurrency’s might face in the future.lets just pray and hope that we will progress again soon.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Addywealth on November 03, 2018, 05:41:00 AM
Ban and rejection has been a major challenge bitcoin is facing from inception. Its a decentralized digital currency not regulated by any Central Bank or control by other commercial banks. Government sees bitcoin as a threat to their to their economy and a way of laundering money for crime and other illegal purposes. But beyond the negative belief bitcoin has been created opportunity for people to move away from poverty level and crate job opportunities all over the world.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Kakmakr on November 03, 2018, 06:12:00 AM
Will you shutdown the Internet, because it is widely used for criminal activities? <Fraud / Child pornography / Scams / Money laundering etc.? >

All technologies are created with good intentions, but unfortunately bad actors find ways to use the same technology to commit crimes. You cannot stop these people from being bad and you cannot throw out the baby with the bath water.

We should just find ways to support the authorities to catch these people, when they use it for crimes.  >:(


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Dana-pasar on November 03, 2018, 06:33:47 AM
bitcoin cannot be banned, and no one rejects bitcoin because bitcoin is a decentralized system and has many beneficial benefits


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: daarul50 on November 03, 2018, 06:39:54 AM
Why is Bitcoin always associated with negative problems? Especially regarding money laundering, whereas so far money laundering has been done using fiat compared to bitcoin, they should have realized that bitcoin actually made changes to the security of financially related systems, only that the problem with bitcoin today is hackers.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: enjotan on November 03, 2018, 06:54:33 AM
I hope that bitcoin is not prohibited, I am very grateful even though in my country at this time bitcoin is not legal, but the state does not forbid it if only for investment, bitcoin really helps the economy of its users to be much better, so I hope all countries don't ban bitcoin in their country.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Woolles890 on November 03, 2018, 07:38:04 AM
Bitcoin is indeed not prohibited or rejected, only there are countries that still doubt the concept of bitcoin. Bitcoin has the advantage of being able to make individuals more creative and advanced, and bitcoin is not able to make the government in a country benefit.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Javeron on November 03, 2018, 09:01:22 AM
Use bitcoin responsibly
You can't ensure security, currency and commodity without ensuring the security of your trusted bitcoin wallet. Though many still break through these securities so just be alert and be careful. Your bitcoin won't get snatched by hackers and attacks if you are carrful enough and for thatvreason. Bitcoin won't be bqnned from your country. Security can also be discussed and enhanced by the government circle.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: ratatat bangbang on November 03, 2018, 09:08:24 AM
Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected because first and foremost it was already  achieved success only the unstable value is the main problem.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: blocklancer8 on November 03, 2018, 09:16:24 AM
All real currencies must have weaknesses, including bitcoin which is a digital currency, which is invisible but has this value. What is definitely worth looking for people and money or bitcoin can not be blamed for the weaknesses they have. Greedy people who are never satisfied are always using many ways - so many evils arise.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: DanieIssac on November 03, 2018, 09:22:21 AM
Many countries prohibit bitcoin trading, but if you steal it, unless they see it, you will be caught.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: aliceHortrex on November 03, 2018, 09:44:50 AM
There are various reasons and risks from Cryptocurrency including:
1. As in the form of digital assets, it is easily misused for financial system crimes such as money laundering.
2. The absence of a clear system, makes cryptocurrency vulnerable to malfunctions that ultimately harm users.
3. Crypto assets have the potential for financial crime (fraud), security violations and operating failures.

       For this reason Cryptocurrency cannot be legally accepted and even banned in some countries. All definitely have strong and wise reasons such for the safety and comfort of the user in the country. Therefore, I think it is time for stakeholders in various countries, especially in countries whereas crypto-capitalexchanges trading ecosystems is high, must think about creating and compiling clear regulations related to cryptocurrency to prevent future potential problems. Because we know Cryptocurrency has become an unavoidable necessity and Crypto is not for us to avoid but must be seen as a potential for benefit and global progress.

       Besides of the regulation of Cryptocurrency itself, the main problem is to prevent and avoid irresponsible individuals who have the potential to do other bitcoin or crypto washing, or theft of Cryptocurrency.

I question my self that do we can be free or stay away from fraud?


You know what's going on.. The situation you describe applies not only to cryptocurrencies and the digital environment in General, but also to Fiat money and the classic financial market too. The fraud and money-laundering and in the absence of cryptocurrency. Money and payment methods is just a tool to facilitate human life, but how to use it is already the envy of everyone. Cryptocurrencies are a very progressive thing, but in the hands of a bad person it turns into a weapon.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: BitcoinHodler on November 03, 2018, 12:39:33 PM
it is funny how people love to focus on a "rumor" that is not even true and never even pay attention to hundreds of good "news" which are actually real and happening to bitcoin these days. for example did you know how Lightning Network has grown in the past couple of months? do you know the shops that have been accepting payment through it?!!!
nobody talks about them! but you say some nonsense about India or China and everyone gets hot :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: iMark on November 03, 2018, 12:47:32 PM
it is funny how people love to focus on a "rumor" that is not even true and never even pay attention to hundreds of good "news" which are actually real and happening to bitcoin these days. for example did you know how Lightning Network has grown in the past couple of months? do you know the shops that have been accepting payment through it?!!!
nobody talks about them! but you say some nonsense about India or China and everyone gets hot :D
I'm also confused why negative news is easier to popular than positive news? whereas if the positive news becomes popular it will certainly make the market better and make profit for you, nowadays people prefer their stance to be alert, so they are prepared to receive bad news than positive news. but btw not all countries ban bitcoin


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Wingleness on November 03, 2018, 01:17:00 PM
it is funny how people love to focus on a "rumor" that is not even true and never even pay attention to hundreds of good "news" which are actually real and happening to bitcoin these days. for example did you know how Lightning Network has grown in the past couple of months? do you know the shops that have been accepting payment through it?!!!
nobody talks about them! but you say some nonsense about India or China and everyone gets hot :D
I'm also confused why negative news is easier to popular than positive news? whereas if the positive news becomes popular it will certainly make the market better and make profit for you, nowadays people prefer their stance to be alert, so they are prepared to receive bad news than positive news. but btw not all countries ban bitcoin

The human nature is quick to spread what isn't true compare to facts and genuine info! Quite unfortunate people spread much of their spreading info that cause them more havoc on the long run.  Bitcoin isn't just every other cryptocurrencies, it is is distinct on it's own and no how much they tried, it can never be banned.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: jake zyrus on November 03, 2018, 04:04:42 PM
Bitcoin is one of the coins in the crypto world. Which are priced from all the coins. If everything is destroyed in the crypto world, then Bitcoin will not be bitten any day. Wherever one can say Bitcoin is the best.
Bitcoin is the best among the rest, bitcoin is king of cryptocurrency no one can replace cause bitcoin is always on top value even facing a trials. Bitcoin is stronger than other coins it always survive and give us hope and opportunity.
 


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: oppasong on November 03, 2018, 05:36:09 PM
if we forbid bitcoin then this will be very difficult to happen, because bitcoin is a digital currency that can only be accessed through the internet world and its development is very fast and growing rapidly, especially crypto is difficult to monitor better we ourselves do not jump in world of cryptocurrency...


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: nagobinga on November 03, 2018, 06:59:24 PM
Bitcoin is very rare for people to reject it in some countries because they can make unlimited money by following signatures or investing in them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: fianaindriati on November 03, 2018, 08:55:49 PM
Bitcoin is very rare for people to reject it in some countries because they can make unlimited money by following signatures or investing in them.

even though bitcoin is valuable, there are also countries that don't agree that bitcoin is circulating, because the circulation of bitcoin follows state regulations as well. if the state prohibits, bitcoin will not enter or develop in that country.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: DJ_Rick on November 03, 2018, 09:57:43 PM
BTC is a great coin and it will not be banned. I think that it will be used for long as the leader of the market. i hope that it will remain the leader and we will be able to benefit from this


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Sarastiche on November 03, 2018, 10:17:11 PM
Bitcoin is a digital currency that is still new thou now 10 years after it development, lots of evolution is still taking place, sure it will be accepted globally overtime because of it advantages which out weigh the disadvantages. every sector of the economy has the presence of  scammers, drug dealers and  terrorist, No exception to Bitcoin, which was not created to enhance there deals, sure overtime regulations will be in place that will check mate this individuals.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: andika2018 on November 04, 2018, 02:11:04 AM
Its hard to ban bitcoin because bitcoin is decentralized cryptocurrency and no one control the data and supply. Beside that, if government want to ban bitcoin, its mean government should block internet connection in their country and i think its impossible to do by government


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Naughty Princess on November 04, 2018, 02:20:59 AM
it is funny how people love to focus on a "rumor" that is not even true and never even pay attention to hundreds of good "news" which are actually real and happening to bitcoin these days. for example did you know how Lightning Network has grown in the past couple of months? do you know the shops that have been accepting payment through it?!!!
nobody talks about them! but you say some nonsense about India or China and everyone gets hot :D
I'm also confused why negative news is easier to popular than positive news? whereas if the positive news becomes popular it will certainly make the market better and make profit for you, nowadays people prefer their stance to be alert, so they are prepared to receive bad news than positive news. but btw not all countries ban bitcoin
That is because negative thinker is more influencer and many are easily believe on the bad than good. Do one wrong move and that will make people remember even you do more good things before. There are many bashers but only true supporters can believe on how good it is. As long as the government accepts bitcoin, we have to used it legally for them not to find a reason to ban bitcoin which benefit us.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: suprex333 on November 04, 2018, 02:47:20 AM
Bitcoin is still a developing stage, no one can stop it. Even though negative news spreads but this doesn't stop it, let the news be present and later there will be good news coming. Optomis will always be available for bitcoin, and each event will be good for future developments.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: bagsat on November 04, 2018, 04:58:33 AM
Actually rejected, yes but in individual aspects. Depends on how a person appreciate it or accept it. Banning, maybe impossible. Even a government will find a way to banned bitcoin yet how a banned a digital currency. Maybe they can banned people to use bitcoin in there country but i think theres still possible ways using it. People need money so they will find ways.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: YOSHIE on November 04, 2018, 05:13:44 AM
There are various reasons and risks from Cryptocurrency including:
1. As in the form of digital assets, it is easily misused for financial system crimes such as money laundering.
2. The absence of a clear system, makes cryptocurrency vulnerable to malfunctions that ultimately harm users.
3. Crypto assets have the potential for financial crime (fraud), security violations and operating failures.
Speaking in the world of cryptocurrency, of course it's good to be aware of the risks that exist before making a financial decision. (In principle): The main risk in cryptocurrency is: they still have a long journey before they can be adopted in bulk.
Cryptocurrency can be likened to a baby that takes years before it can be accepted on a global system scale.
so it must be understood also that the increase in the value of a cryptocurrency, this we call the term Bitcoin's bubble one when it is still like that, then it will erupt and the investors will suffer losses.



Risk: in other forms related to cryptocurrency that can lead to financial losses, due to carelessness and inaccuracy. If you forgot the key (password) or the key was stolen.


The conclusion: humans in life must have the name pros and cons. To make good and good decisions, the main thing is to understand the good and bad of a factor and things before making a final decision. everything related to cryptocurrency, here speaks of (the willingness of people) to accept and adopt technology. Currently cyptocurrency technology already exists. therefore time will confirm whether the world will shout "OK" or "NO".


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: babarian on November 04, 2018, 05:30:23 AM
At present many countries are banning bitcoin in their countries, but there are also some countries that allow it but some countries that allow very strict regulations on the circulation of bitcoin in their countries.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: MAJICOIN on November 04, 2018, 05:41:28 AM
Bitcoin is digital money so i can say that no one can reject or bane bitcoin it is not the controllable currency and it's use are increasing day by day while the price at current moment is a good idea and it can never be bane in the world and huge businesses are running on crypto so they are every time ready for it and they never rejected like at exchanges people daily make hundred of successful transactions and they are ready to accept coins while they charge fee for these transactions.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: stayeduptolate on November 04, 2018, 05:53:24 AM
At present many countries are banning bitcoin in their countries, but there are also some countries that allow it but some countries that allow very strict regulations on the circulation of bitcoin in their countries.
This is the most problematic situation about the legality of bitcoins as many countries make bitcoin legal and some have completely banned it, some charge higher intrest rates from people working in this sector and some aren't saying anything about it. So the people are also frustrated in this case as they don't know whether to indulge in Crypto or not as the government can ban Bitcoin any day they want and the investment of people can go down the drain if they do so.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: yanifitri20 on November 04, 2018, 05:55:31 AM
I think, crypto currencies (cryptocurrency) like bitcoin and ethereum bekalangan are increasingly being heard. This is reasonable, considering that cryptocurrency is popular among warganet, which makes it a new way of accessing money outside the conventional financial system. Apart from limitations and fluctuating values, in fact cryptocurrency such as bitcoin is increasingly being looked at. However, it does not mean that cyrptocurrency investment does not have risk. One of the main obstacles for investors to invest in cryptocurrency is the matter of their legal status. however in some countries cryptocurrency has been legalized.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: RioAnjay on November 04, 2018, 06:40:29 AM
It seems that this question is repeatedly asked, but well, I will only answer what I know, for a country that rejects bitcoin, it is thought that investing in cyrptocurrency has a very high risk because the price is very fluctuating. Many experts are skeptical about bitcoin as a major investment because of the limitations they can analyze. Unlike other investment rooms, cryptocurrency is not regulated by the government or the bank. In addition, there is no government control. But for countries that allow bitcoin to have a different perspective, for example Japan. The volume of bitcoin trading in Japan surged after the enactment of laws in that country that recognized bitcoin as a legitimate payment instrument


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: creeps on November 04, 2018, 07:08:05 AM
Bitcoin is very rare for people to reject it in some countries because they can make unlimited money by following signatures or investing in them.
Bitcoin should not be highlighted by this, we should understand its real function and that is to provide great financial service around the world. Bitcoin may be rejected for now but in the future we will see it in the mainstream, and almost all banks will adopt blockchain technology.

Its hard to ban bitcoin because bitcoin is decentralized cryptocurrency and no one control the data and supply. Beside that, if government want to ban bitcoin, its mean government should block internet connection in their country and i think its impossible to do by government
Well, this thing has done already by many countries they banned bitcoin for a while and yet they revise that decision and make bitcoin a legal one. Its easy to ban bitcoin, but for sure it will not last longer because bitcoin is too good go be rejected.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: sheenaedago on November 04, 2018, 08:22:13 AM
Bitcoin is very rare for people to reject it in some countries because they can make unlimited money by following signatures or investing in them.
Bitcoin should not be highlighted by this, we should understand its real function and that is to provide great financial service around the world. Bitcoin may be rejected for now but in the future we will see it in the mainstream, and almost all banks will adopt blockchain technology.

Its hard to ban bitcoin because bitcoin is decentralized cryptocurrency and no one control the data and supply. Beside that, if government want to ban bitcoin, its mean government should block internet connection in their country and i think its impossible to do by government
Well, this thing has done already by many countries they banned bitcoin for a while and yet they revise that decision and make bitcoin a legal one. Its easy to ban bitcoin, but for sure it will not last longer because bitcoin is too good go be rejected.


Exactly, it would be a big loses when it could be rejected and bitcoin is too good to be wasted. So I believe it will never be banned or rejected, because a lot of people depend and resemble this asset as it can change the natural lifestyle.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: pinkman12345 on November 04, 2018, 08:23:30 AM
Bitcoin is just like barter system and no economy can reject this basic trade rule. So bitcoin can never be banned, if banned by any nation then it will thrive most in that country.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Glutius on November 08, 2018, 07:35:03 PM
Many people associate bitcoin with fraudulent activities. But criminals successfully use any national currency, especially dollars. Therefore, bitcoin can not affect the growth of crime and money laundering.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: rtm125 on November 08, 2018, 08:16:04 PM
It seems to me that on the contrary - bitcoin is able to make the entire financial system much easier and more transparent. Transactions can be tracked, which means that criminals are clearly uncomfortable to use this currency. Therefore, you should not equate bitcoin to a criminal currency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Udrujec on November 08, 2018, 08:28:53 PM
Many countries these facts only justify the prohibition of bitcoin. But in fact, the authorities simply act in their own interests, since the adoption of a decentralized, independent cryptocurrency is not profitable for them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: hahay on November 08, 2018, 08:37:03 PM
It seems to me that on the contrary - bitcoin is able to make the entire financial system much easier and more transparent. Transactions can be tracked, which means that criminals are clearly uncomfortable to use this currency. Therefore, you should not equate bitcoin to a criminal currency.
Even though the transaction can be tracked but we do not know who the owner of the address is and everyone is free to transact, this allows a dark transaction to be traced. We know there are many scammers in the online world that make it have a lot of risks in it, because bitcoin still doesn't have a center that can be used as a legitimate regulation. But so far the use of bitcoin is very good and there is not much bad news circulating about criminals using bitcoin, so with many investors, I feel there will be no banned on bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: marcbitcoins on November 09, 2018, 12:31:37 AM
Sounds like that you are not contented with the current regulation and the need for amendment or to improve it is necessary but actually the current regulation is much effective in most of the great countries like Japan, USA and Germany in which i don't hear any negative reaction after they legalized Bitcoin so i think you presumptions regarding weak regulations will only depend of the country but not the entire crypto community.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: aray80 on November 09, 2018, 02:48:08 AM
Bitcoin is not prohibited or rejected for use by users but is a warning to be careful when investing or trading against unstable prices, and also bitcoin often fluctuates at any time by unbalanced supply and demand that fraudsters can take advantage of from beginners


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: gudjhonson on November 09, 2018, 04:21:45 AM
Bitcoin is a tool that can make the future good, no one can ban or stop, because the development of bitcoin is very good and of high value. This development provides a very useful thing, so it is worth keeping.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: gajebo on November 09, 2018, 04:45:18 AM
not all countries prohibit bitcoin, many countries have legalized bitcoin in their countries, and I hope bitcoin is not banned in all countries because bitcoin is very helpful to the economy of its users, even though bitcoin is at risk of being misused, but actually bitcoin is much more useful if used positively.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Wong Kalong on November 09, 2018, 06:49:55 AM
Bitcoin is a currency that is capable of exploding and giving a better life, and if the user uses it negatively, it is not a negative bitcoin but the user. So bitcoin remains good and continues to grow well, bitcoin deserves to be maintained and many will adopt it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: memecoin on November 09, 2018, 06:59:33 AM
There are various reasons and risks from Cryptocurrency including:
1. As in the form of digital assets, it is easily misused for financial system crimes such as money laundering.
2. The absence of a clear system, makes cryptocurrency vulnerable to malfunctions that ultimately harm users.
3. Crypto assets have the potential for financial crime (fraud), security violations and operating failures.

       For this reason Cryptocurrency cannot be legally accepted and even banned in some countries. All definitely have strong and wise reasons such for the safety and comfort of the user in the country. Therefore, I think it is time for stakeholders in various countries, especially in countries whereas crypto-capitalexchanges trading ecosystems is high, must think about creating and compiling clear regulations related to cryptocurrency to prevent future potential problems. Because we know Cryptocurrency has become an unavoidable necessity and Crypto is not for us to avoid but must be seen as a potential for benefit and global progress.

       Besides of the regulation of Cryptocurrency itself, the main problem is to prevent and avoid irresponsible individuals who have the potential to do other bitcoin or crypto washing, or theft of Cryptocurrency.

I question my self that do we can be free or stay away from fraud?


Bitcoin is not totally ban though, but there are certain countries that bans it from using crypto (if they catch you). Still you can go and  use it just don't be caught.

Maybe your country is not aware of Bitcoin already, but you are right you will be caught in these countries, because they think you are the scammer on the network of people. But you can move where you live through Japan or Korea ... that allows you to use bitcoin without being blocked.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: efxtrader on November 09, 2018, 09:18:08 AM
There are various reasons and risks from Cryptocurrency including:
1. As in the form of digital assets, it is easily misused for financial system crimes such as money laundering.
2. The absence of a clear system, makes cryptocurrency vulnerable to malfunctions that ultimately harm users.
3. Crypto assets have the potential for financial crime (fraud), security violations and operating failures.

       For this reason Cryptocurrency cannot be legally accepted and even banned in some countries. All definitely have strong and wise reasons such for the safety and comfort of the user in the country. Therefore, I think it is time for stakeholders in various countries, especially in countries whereas crypto-capitalexchanges trading ecosystems is high, must think about creating and compiling clear regulations related to cryptocurrency to prevent future potential problems. Because we know Cryptocurrency has become an unavoidable necessity and Crypto is not for us to avoid but must be seen as a potential for benefit and global progress.

       Besides of the regulation of Cryptocurrency itself, the main problem is to prevent and avoid irresponsible individuals who have the potential to do other bitcoin or crypto washing, or theft of Cryptocurrency.

I question my self that do we can be free or stay away from fraud?


I think if we want mass adoption on bitcoin, we need government regulation. Many country already allowed bitcoin as an asset and commodities and i think with regulation, bitcoin investor or holder more protected from fraud


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: sinkfish on November 09, 2018, 01:15:59 PM
aat the end of the day, all banning will lift, see how China ban and unban again and again.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Baby Dragon on November 09, 2018, 01:47:30 PM
There are various reasons and risks from Cryptocurrency including:
1. As in the form of digital assets, it is easily misused for financial system crimes such as money laundering.
2. The absence of a clear system, makes cryptocurrency vulnerable to malfunctions that ultimately harm users.
3. Crypto assets have the potential for financial crime (fraud), security violations and operating failures.

       For this reason Cryptocurrency cannot be legally accepted and even banned in some countries. All definitely have strong and wise reasons such for the safety and comfort of the user in the country. Therefore, I think it is time for stakeholders in various countries, especially in countries whereas crypto-capitalexchanges trading ecosystems is high, must think about creating and compiling clear regulations related to cryptocurrency to prevent future potential problems. Because we know Cryptocurrency has become an unavoidable necessity and Crypto is not for us to avoid but must be seen as a potential for benefit and global progress.

       Besides of the regulation of Cryptocurrency itself, the main problem is to prevent and avoid irresponsible individuals who have the potential to do other bitcoin or crypto washing, or theft of Cryptocurrency.

I question my self that do we can be free or stay away from fraud?

Actually, all of that are correct and the reason why some government banned it is it can be uses in some crime. But, there some government allowed to use it in their country because they see the potential and function of cryptocurrency. I hope in the coming future all countries will allowed and unbanned cryptocurrency because this thing will help to easier life.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: iMark on November 09, 2018, 02:20:16 PM
It seems to me that on the contrary - bitcoin is able to make the entire financial system much easier and more transparent. Transactions can be tracked, which means that criminals are clearly uncomfortable to use this currency. Therefore, you should not equate bitcoin to a criminal currency.
Even though the transaction can be tracked but we do not know who the owner of the address is and everyone is free to transact, this allows a dark transaction to be traced. We know there are many scammers in the online world that make it have a lot of risks in it, because bitcoin still doesn't have a center that can be used as a legitimate regulation. But so far the use of bitcoin is very good and there is not much bad news circulating about criminals using bitcoin, so with many investors, I feel there will be no banned on bitcoin.
I think that's what makes some governments in the world forbid or feel threatened when bitcoin grows in their country, because of the possibility of financial crime, because they can't track someone's transactions. but when the government has found a way to control and monitor users, of course the ban will no longer exist


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: FlightyPouch on November 09, 2018, 02:23:05 PM
not all countries prohibit bitcoin, many countries have legalized bitcoin in their countries, and I hope bitcoin is not banned in all countries because bitcoin is very helpful to the economy of its users, even though bitcoin is at risk of being misused, but actually bitcoin is much more useful if used positively.

It is true that it can help other people to earn some money but it is not that easy since to earn a profit out of these crypto currencies,  you should be able to have virtue of being patient. If you are not patient enough, you will not be able to earn money in the future. If the government banned them, I don't have any thing to object there since it is their decision, not mine.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: kissme09 on November 09, 2018, 02:30:11 PM
Blocking Bitcoin or accepting it is still a problem that has not been solved. You can see that many countries accept Bitcoin and there are a lot of countries opposed to it. We need to have Bitcoin associations and need lots of useful information to get it back.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: anitaraymonds on November 09, 2018, 02:35:38 PM
Decentralized nature of bitcoin makes it very difficult to regulate by any authority. The developers of bitcoin had a mind of innocence while it was developed purely for P2P transaction never expected it could be used for evil. The evil nature of bitcoin usage has to with the choice people are making daily using bitcoin if only we can restrict ourselves within the ambient of bitcoin whitepaper then bitcoin would have been what was in the mind of the developers from inception. We the users should help and use the coin with care and for virtue and not for evil.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: kokobaba880 on November 09, 2018, 03:20:13 PM
Crypto currency market is expanding day by day so if some says that it is banned it will be just rumors i have personally invest in crypto and i know that it very fruitful so i am sure that in the near future all the payment will be through bitcoin and crypto and people will not use their traditional payment modes but they will be through their mobile phones and computers via internet and this will be the modern payment system .


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: WebTera on November 11, 2018, 07:17:18 PM
If used correctly, bitcoin will not disrupt the economy of the country that adopted it, only improve it. This technology is not designed to be used by fraudsters, it has very different goals.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: bitvelk on November 11, 2018, 08:11:13 PM
It is unlikely that those countries that have banned bitcoin are guided by these principles that you have written. I still believe that the government has its own interests in banning bitcoin, as the development of a decentralized currency is not beneficial for them.




Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Glutius on November 11, 2018, 08:12:59 PM
I think that many countries will eventually accept bitcoin, because it is increasingly distributed among people, and the government simply will not be able to ignore the interests of the majority of citizens. And as for fraud with bitcoin-it's just skepticism.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Lorin on November 11, 2018, 08:47:14 PM
One of the reason why government banned bitcoin in some countries because of the usage of it in some criminalities. We know that bitcoin is digital currency  and it was transact through internet without third party thats why its easy to use for illegal. But despite  of it  more people are getting involve into bitcoin because they kniw how btc is helpful.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: SistaFista on November 12, 2018, 09:29:55 AM
There are various reasons and risks from Cryptocurrency including:
1. As in the form of digital assets, it is easily misused for financial system crimes such as money laundering.
2. The absence of a clear system, makes cryptocurrency vulnerable to malfunctions that ultimately harm users.
3. Crypto assets have the potential for financial crime (fraud), security violations and operating failures.

       For this reason Cryptocurrency cannot be legally accepted and even banned in some countries. All definitely have strong and wise reasons such for the safety and comfort of the user in the country. Therefore, I think it is time for stakeholders in various countries, especially in countries whereas crypto-capitalexchanges trading ecosystems is high, must think about creating and compiling clear regulations related to cryptocurrency to prevent future potential problems. Because we know Cryptocurrency has become an unavoidable necessity and Crypto is not for us to avoid but must be seen as a potential for benefit and global progress.

       Besides of the regulation of Cryptocurrency itself, the main problem is to prevent and avoid irresponsible individuals who have the potential to do other bitcoin or crypto washing, or theft of Cryptocurrency.

I question my self that do we can be free or stay away from fraud?


Bitcoin is not accepted by every countries in the world because there are peoples who using bitcoin for bad purpose.
And we can't know who using bitcoin with a wrong way unless we know the address owner.
Fraudsters and scammers take advantage of crypto because of it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: zhanyiguai261315 on November 12, 2018, 09:45:42 AM
The main reason why BTC is banned is that it is difficult to supervise BTC!
With the development of blockchain technology, the supervision of BTC will certainly become easier!
By this time, all countries in the world will be open to BTC!


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: LastHope99 on November 12, 2018, 09:50:37 AM
The main reason why BTC is banned is that it is difficult to supervise BTC!
With the development of blockchain technology, the supervision of BTC will certainly become easier!
By this time, all countries in the world will be open to BTC!

Absolutely correct. Btc will go mainstream once it can be fully controlled. No other way.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Lammie on November 12, 2018, 09:52:02 AM
We already see it being slowly controlled by asian governments. I'm very skeptical at this moment.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: zeingrind777 on November 12, 2018, 10:02:12 AM
The main reason why BTC is banned is that it is difficult to supervise BTC!
With the development of blockchain technology, the supervision of BTC will certainly become easier!
By this time, all countries in the world will be open to BTC!

Absolutely correct. Btc will go mainstream once it can be fully controlled. No other way.
If Bitcoin is fully controlled, then Bitcoin will lose its decentralized nature. Meanwhile, Bitcoin was created as a decentralized currency and transparency. Why do we use Bitcoin if the government and state fully control Bitcoin? it is no different from fiat money and banks


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: oceantiger on November 12, 2018, 10:13:41 AM
The issue is a bit dicey because anything done to put control on crypto will surely negate the fundamental of bitcoin which is decentralized and this is what makes bitcoin what it is. Taking away decentralization from bitcoin will make it be nothing. So what are we going to do in this situation? I think the best option if possible was for the people to follow the guidelines on usage of bitcoin which was merely for P2P transactions. Everybody sticking to the good use of bitcoin and not exploiting the evil usage of bitcoin.(money laundry, funding of terror and drugging)


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: DaWidyaa on November 12, 2018, 10:28:31 AM
I think if bitcoin is used correctly it will be beneficial for you, when you hear from people that bitcoin is harming maybe they are in the wrong group in using bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: manfredmann on November 12, 2018, 10:32:24 AM
Freeing from fraud? It will never happened. Let me remind you that the population of the whole world is 6.5 Billion people and each of them has different characteristics. Fraud will never get away especially to the third world country. Getting in jailed is an easy part compared to looking for money to buy food. So, with the poverty people resort to doing fraud. You can even sense that here in the forum especially in marketplace that there are many fraud users out there. And we can't do anything about it because it is already there and it will be so hard to remove the fraud in that section.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: BagzMM on November 12, 2018, 11:29:29 AM
Bitcoin is known worldwide for it is uses blockchain technology. Maybe some countries banned bitcoin but try to look at those countries who adopted bitcoin, their economy has stabilized.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: sublime5447 on November 16, 2018, 03:06:46 PM
It seems countries that reject Bitcoin are not more than countries support it, it's only a matter of time until they make a decision to follow other countries because inevitably they ha (http://rumahmu.com)ve to be part of the change if they don't want to be left behind by other countries.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: ellehcar on November 16, 2018, 03:40:34 PM
      For this reason Cryptocurrency cannot be legally accepted and even banned in some countries. All definitely have strong and wise reasons such for the safety and comfort of the user in the country. Therefore, I think it is time for stakeholders in various countries, especially in countries whereas crypto-capitalexchanges trading ecosystems is high, must think about creating and compiling clear regulations related to cryptocurrency to prevent future potential problems.

Anything in this world involves risks. Even just crossing the road, there is risks accustomed with. If our forefathers looked at and dealt with these negatives negatively, we would not have seen progress now. Even in any financial institution, these negative reasons are present, but why did they manage to go mainstream? It's because they looked at its benefits rather than its downsides, which is obviously weightier than the latter. Yeah, I also believe that to clear all the doubts about crypto, it must be regulated by the government, so as to avoid abuse also. Through that, it will reach its full potential. That is probably the only thing that's left undone for it to be widely adopted.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: izanagi narukami on November 16, 2018, 03:46:47 PM
My government can do anything include banning crypto for their good.
We as civilian can't do nothing against their decision because in other side, government want to protect their people from harm because as we know that crypto trading consider as risky investment.

As long as I'm aware the risk, I still can trade but with my own risk !


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: kram31 on November 16, 2018, 03:48:45 PM
Bitcoin will be banned if all country will agree on one decision.
But if there will be one alone who will stand in favor of BTC then it is not possible.
There are so many country seeing that Bitcoin is one of the answer of against poverty.
BITCOIN will never be banned. it will be regulated though.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: MAJICOIN on November 16, 2018, 04:34:47 PM
Bitcoin is decentralized currency so it can not be rejected by any third party and it is free form political interference so it can be said that it no one can bane bitcoin it is free and it will free from third parties, bitcoin is good to buy now at low prices and keep it for trade in future now many businesses in the crypto are using crypto as money for buying and selling and this will make a new world which will rely on bitcoin and crypto but still it takes time to implement every where for use.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: hanifhadzar on November 16, 2018, 05:06:24 PM
There are various reasons and risks from Cryptocurrency including:
1. As in the form of digital assets, it is easily misused for financial system crimes such as money laundering.
2. The absence of a clear system, makes cryptocurrency vulnerable to malfunctions that ultimately harm users.
3. Crypto assets have the potential for financial crime (fraud), security violations and operating failures.

       For this reason Cryptocurrency cannot be legally accepted and even banned in some countries. All definitely have strong and wise reasons such for the safety and comfort of the user in the country. Therefore, I think it is time for stakeholders in various countries, especially in countries whereas crypto-capitalexchanges trading ecosystems is high, must think about creating and compiling clear regulations related to cryptocurrency to prevent future potential problems. Because we know Cryptocurrency has become an unavoidable necessity and Crypto is not for us to avoid but must be seen as a potential for benefit and global progress.

       Besides of the regulation of Cryptocurrency itself, the main problem is to prevent and avoid irresponsible individuals who have the potential to do other bitcoin or crypto washing, or theft of Cryptocurrency.

I question my self that do we can be free or stay away from fraud?

From the first launching of Bitcoin is a digital asset that has no physical form and the crime of using Bitcoin has long happened because of its anonymity, but that only a few people do it, but it continues to be exaggerated with the aim of dropping Bitcoin. But you don't worry! as long as the ICO project is still crowded by investors and Bitcoin is still valuable, that means Bitcoin and crypto are useful in everyday life.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: brooklynian on November 22, 2018, 01:19:12 PM
Let us desist from ascribing all forms of negatively to cryptocurrency. If a government chooses to prohibit it, it is often out of hatred for decentralization. There are a lot more scams associated with the fiat currencies that are well regulated. Some very good countries are already promoting cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Joeyvicky on November 22, 2018, 04:29:44 PM
All these points seem to be an allegations against bitccoin aside that before bitcoin people were still using national currencies in commiting crimes and as far as something is good it definitely has people toshow some bad aspect of it and to us we know bitcoin can not be rejected or banned and even some countries which turn it banned them will soon appreciate it essence in life.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: happy weblancer on November 22, 2018, 08:14:18 PM
All these points seem to be an allegations against bitccoin aside that before bitcoin people were still using national currencies in commiting crimes and as far as something is good it definitely has people toshow some bad aspect of it and to us we know bitcoin can not be rejected or banned and even some countries which turn it banned them will soon appreciate it essence in life.

Bitcoin is ahead of its time. Countries that have banned its they are simply afraid of its, because they don't know what it is and what its strengths and weaknesses are. They decided: we will wait, let others accept it, and then we will see. But for now, in order to avoid unpleasant incidents, it's necessary to prohibit it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Jackolantern on November 22, 2018, 09:40:23 PM
I am sure that soon btc will prove everyone that it is the best coin and it is our future. it will be impossible to ban it or reject. There is no sense in denying that this coin can offer us many pros


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: assyla on November 22, 2018, 10:21:23 PM
To my knowledge people have talked much about bitcoin bane and it's rejected from the world but still they are not successful and it won't be true even we will not see that time when bitcoin will reject from the world and it is not controllable so people can use it every where in the world with out any further force and people use it for their good usage now.
Some government of different countries are rejecting bitcoin, we dont know the real reasons why they are doing this but it is a bad thing becaise they did not accept the next future currency of our world. Still bitcoin is on the top although some coutries are against to bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: junglist.massive on December 15, 2018, 03:50:37 PM
If you look at what happened to fiat with all its regulations but in fact still abused, it all depends on the user and regulation also the law enforcement, and these two are the main factors but actually there are more fa (http://hafana.com)ctors interfering here but the list will be long. After all, this kind of topic have been discussed in this forum many times, if you are still not satisfied with the answers in this thread you can read other threads with similar topics.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: adzino on December 15, 2018, 03:56:59 PM
No one can stop bitcoin as there is no central authority since the currency is decentralized. This means the government has no particular organization to ban. Its a peer to peer network. So, if the government has to destroy bitcoin, they will have to stop every person from using it. Think of it like the torrent network. Has the government still been able to stop the usage of torrent for illegal usage and piracy? Nope.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Valer4ik on December 15, 2018, 04:04:38 PM
Investors will always have in their minds the realization that 20k per bitcoin was and can be quite achievable. As in the 17th year, for a free-time they ran and they will run again, because they already understand. And this is a very solid ground for the new pampas.

 

In general, wagging a certain corridor, it would be good to argue with it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: speeder on December 15, 2018, 04:19:39 PM
Of course there are some things about BTC that can be improved but let's don't forget that this Cryptocurrency world has a lot of advantages, like..all the transactions are anonymous.Now that can be used in a good way or in a wrong way depends on the person's intentions.The thing is..if you want to work in this BTC world then you have to take some risks.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: ngocbkcse on December 15, 2018, 05:34:32 PM
There are various reasons and risks from Cryptocurrency including:
1. As in the form of digital assets, it is easily misused for financial system crimes such as money laundering.
2. The absence of a clear system, makes cryptocurrency vulnerable to malfunctions that ultimately harm users.
3. Crypto assets have the potential for financial crime (fraud), security violations and operating failures.

       For this reason Cryptocurrency cannot be legally accepted and even banned in some countries. All definitely have strong and wise reasons such for the safety and comfort of the user in the country. Therefore, I think it is time for stakeholders in various countries, especially in countries whereas crypto-capitalexchanges trading ecosystems is high, must think about creating and compiling clear regulations related to cryptocurrency to prevent future potential problems. Because we know Cryptocurrency has become an unavoidable necessity and Crypto is not for us to avoid but must be seen as a potential for benefit and global progress.

       Besides of the regulation of Cryptocurrency itself, the main problem is to prevent and avoid irresponsible individuals who have the potential to do other bitcoin or crypto washing, or theft of Cryptocurrency.

I question my self that do we can be free or stay away from fraud?


Yeah, I would agree with that. The lack of control in this sphere make it vulnerable. There is urgent need for regulations.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: hahay on December 15, 2018, 05:44:14 PM
In general, bitcoin is good because we know that many people have increased economically because of bitcoin, but on the other hand there are people who abuse bitcoin for illegal activities such as fraud etc. So as long as we can carry bitcoin on the road of goodness, then I'm sure whether or not there are certain rules for bitcoin, bitcoin will still continue to grow because it is supported by great enthusiasm in it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Rooster101 on December 16, 2018, 01:29:05 AM
Any kind of money, whether it is fiat or virtual currency, is susceptible to abused or can be use to criminal activities and cryptocurrency is one of them. A law might be needed to regulate the use of any currency to protect it from any illegal means but it might not solve the problems completely. Some countries have already legalized bitcoin and is being adopted by some merchants in some part of the world and other countries had banned it. Bitcoin, is an alternative and decentralized kind of payment and people can still able to use it whether it is legalized or banned.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: biskitop on December 16, 2018, 01:36:31 AM
bitcoin will become stronger in the future, and online transactions will switch to bitcoin and bitcoin will never be rejected again.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: mornabo on December 16, 2018, 01:58:11 AM
To my knowledge people have talked much about bitcoin bane and it's rejected from the world but still they are not successful and it won't be true even we will not see that time when bitcoin will reject from the world and it is not controllable so people can use it every where in the world with out any further force and people use it for their good usage now.
Some government of different countries are rejecting bitcoin, we dont know the real reasons why they are doing this but it is a bad thing becaise they did not accept the next future currency of our world. Still bitcoin is on the top although some coutries are against to bitcoin.
in some countries there is indeed a ban on the use of bitcoin but not all countries ban it right? there are still many countries that have not determined the response regarding the use of bitcoin, is it prohibited or legalized. so there are still many countries that are free to using bitcoin


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Janation on December 16, 2018, 02:05:05 AM
bitcoin will become stronger in the future, and online transactions will switch to bitcoin and bitcoin will never be rejected again.

Bitcoin is already a strong cryptocurrency.

The price of Bitcoin is a proof that it is strong and still strong up to now. The price of it might be falling down but it is normal for cryptos since they are all decentralized and they are volatile. Bitcoin even in the past is rejected and it is part of being a new thing in the world to be rejected, the most important thing is the even though a lot of people rejected it, a lot more will be accepting it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: basyang on December 16, 2018, 09:35:48 AM
To my knowledge people have talked much about bitcoin bane and it's rejected from the world but still they are not successful and it won't be true even we will not see that time when bitcoin will reject from the world and it is not controllable so people can use it every where in the world with out any further force and people use it for their good usage now.

For me, Bitcoin is not deserved to be banned without trying to it. Some basis to reject or banned bitcoin is because it can use to in some illgeal activities which is very wrong because it can cause to reject cryptocurremcyto avoid this kind of things. Hopefully, this kind of reason will gone in the future and many people are embrace cryptocurrency to have a good profit.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: ballerin and giroud on December 16, 2018, 09:40:45 AM
To my knowledge people have talked much about bitcoin bane and it's rejected from the world but still they are not successful and it won't be true even we will not see that time when bitcoin will reject from the world and it is not controllable so people can use it every where in the world with out any further force and people use it for their good usage now.
Some government of different countries are rejecting bitcoin, we dont know the real reasons why they are doing this but it is a bad thing becaise they did not accept the next future currency of our world. Still bitcoin is on the top although some coutries are against to bitcoin.
I think the main cause of every government prohibiting bitcoin is that bitcoin is identical with negative things such as money laundering, terrorist funding or tools for illegal transactions. The government only sees from these 3 factors, indeed, we cannot deny that bitcoin can be used for these 3 functions, but certainly the government must be able to be fair, because not all users of bitcoin are mentioned above.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Dimas99 on December 16, 2018, 10:00:35 AM
in my country crypto currencies are not prohibited from being accessed and rejected but in my country it is prohibited to transact directly with not through the relevant bank


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: pooja1982 on December 16, 2018, 11:46:18 AM
Bitcoin is not ban all around the world but some of the countries where the Government of that country has against using crypto. In our country the issue of crypto regulation is pending under the jurisdiction of law. Government of maximum country are study for its regulation where its already regulated.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Cherylstar86 on December 16, 2018, 06:13:29 PM
in my country crypto currencies are not prohibited from being accessed and rejected but in my country it is prohibited to transact directly with not through the relevant bank
Bitcoin's adoption and legalities depends on countries or territories norms and standards, because each has its own line of rules. I think many countries are still not aware about Bitcoin or maybe some are aware but they are just not interested about it. There can really be a lot of factors why other countries accepted Bitcoin while others banned or rejected it. I believe what's lacking here is the proper education to the public, the awareness and full understanding of what Bitcoin is and on how it works. If we get to change the mindset of the people it can have a big impact for the growth of Bitcoin, it can bring more good opportunitues that could result to have a good quality of life. Let's use it responsibly and correctly, and let us all stay positive and be hopeful.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: sikkan on December 16, 2018, 06:42:18 PM
Do not think bitcoin is to be banned. As a matter of fact some governments try to think of its use. The only problem it has to be regulated somehow to make it safer and keep it away from the crime world.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: bitgov on December 16, 2018, 06:46:19 PM

I question my self that do we can be free or stay away from fraud?


If we use Bitcoin as a payment tool, there will always be the risk that someone will come up with an idea on how to cheat us or extort money. In fact, only keeping coins in encrypted wallets gives (almost) 100% security.

This applies to all forms of payment, not just cryptocurrencies. There is no perfect solution.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: nebiki on December 16, 2018, 07:49:54 PM
bitcoin will become stronger in the future, and online transactions will switch to bitcoin and bitcoin will never be rejected again.
in my opinion bitcoin is not rejected it's just that it's an illegal currency and a lack of licensing from the government, even so we can still use it as long as there is still internet network. yes, maybe all will switch to the digital world, but all that also requires a long process and time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: CryptoToxicAvenger on December 16, 2018, 08:28:37 PM
Although cryptocurrency has risks, it still exists and is used by many people. People and various companies continue to invest in it, they see the potential in it. Yes, investing in crypto carries great risks, but it can also change anyone's life for the better. Where there is a big risk, there is more chance of great success.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Naughty Princess on December 16, 2018, 09:05:04 PM
bitcoin will become stronger in the future, and online transactions will switch to bitcoin and bitcoin will never be rejected again.
in my opinion bitcoin is not rejected it's just that it's an illegal currency and a lack of licensing from the government, even so we can still use it as long as there is still internet network. yes, maybe all will switch to the digital world, but all that also requires a long process and time.
I agree. Maybe it is not yet introduce on a government but the people used it, it does not mean being rejected but has approval for legal use. But sometimes it is getting banned because on using it in illegal transaction which have to control by the government. It is adapted by online stores and even some offline, that is the start of using digital currency for fast transactions.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Tipsters on December 16, 2018, 09:24:40 PM
The mere fact that it's digital asset, it's not going to lose its value unless there's a new world that is bigger than the digital itself or there has been a universal digital asset to be created.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Bonsaiav on December 16, 2018, 09:32:30 PM
Therefore, I think it is time for stakeholders in various countries, especially in countries whereas crypto-capitalexchanges trading ecosystems is high, must think about creating and compiling clear regulations related to cryptocurrency to prevent future potential problems.

You are right, but this is not easy to do, because state officials are more likely to complicate their existence and circulation, even they are not reluctant to make even harder restrictions, if it turns out the popularity of Bitcoin "BOOM" is more popular and used by the public than eyes conventional money.

Because we know Cryptocurrency has become an unavoidable necessity and Crypto is not for us to avoid but must be seen as a potential for benefit and global progress.

Sure enough, if every government had a more advanced mindset like what the Japanese government does now, maybe the positive potential and benefits it brings would greatly help the wider community, especially for people who are financially disadvantaged, as well as people who don't have bank accounts.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: setialovers on December 17, 2018, 12:23:07 AM
If hard for government to ban or reject bitcoin. First, bitcoin is decentralized cryptocurrency and second is no authorities or CEO control bitcoin supply or data. As decentralized cryptocurrency, no one government can touch bitcoin because its over beyond their regulation


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: gesdan on December 17, 2018, 01:11:32 AM
bitcoin is not rejected or banned by anyone, but the government still keep watch the bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.and if you ask how to get away from fraud is simple. you need to see and make a research about your next move, so before you do next move you need to make some research about it


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: jimskiy on December 17, 2018, 01:43:37 AM
Bitcoin is the best thing for using as e currency payment, more easy and faster using bitcoin or altcoin than we have use cash or real money for sending and make payment, we have other optional by using bitcoin as e currency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is not to banned or rejected
Post by: Siti Nurbaya on December 17, 2018, 02:03:38 AM
Nobody can ban and reject bitcoin, bitcoin has grown and has its advantages and disadvantages, all of which have benefited its holders. No one or the government can stop the bitcoin unless the internet world stops and does not work.