Bitcoin Forum

I don't know why people are still talking about religions, we are different, each one has his beliefs, what is the problem?

I think instead, we should talk about our real life, we are not living in the promised paradise, we are living in countries where there are many problems, especially corruption if we speak about third world countries.

We are suffering from this phenomenon in our country for instance, this is the real life, it doesn't matter if a president, a businessman, or a simple full-time worker is atheist, if he does his best to develop his country...

I respect both sides and they have something to prove but let's go on and settle this topic.

Better if you didn't point out that word on your opinion, you are simply dragging them towards the topic that you don't want to discuss. Anyway, it's true that most of the countries does have this very similar problem. It's everywhere if you'll ask those countries that even has a good economy, they have their own definition for corruption. And I guess to eliminate this type of problem depends on the education system where children are being taught on how bad corruption is and teaching them the proper way while they are young and avoiding even the slightest type of corruption. I think the best country for this system is Japan.

In the part of the world where I come from, corruption is extaled, lauded, and giving wreaths to put on its heads...
Corrupt officials amass wealth for themselves and throw little coins owta the window for masses who foolishly and blindly cheer and sing their praises..
They live in high castles,with half the nations security,while the common man is gagged,robbed and beating at night

Corruption happens to be the greatest undoing of my nation,and sadly it doesn't seem to be coming to an end anytime soon, as the educational system doesn't teach it, doesn't build us up to be leaders but followers to this rotten bandwagon politicians...

Does it really matter what sect of religion they associate with,their very own religion happens to be corruption and they believe in it to the latter

Corruption is a virus that has eaten deep into many societies, in my country it has become the only religion these politicians know, you are considered odd and irrelevant if you are not corrupt, the system remains the problem, an efficient method of fighting this menace is what is needed.

Unfortunately, the same here, everyone is trying to flee from third world countries not because of religious problems or something like that, but because of corruption and underdevelopment, etc.

I do  not  find any link between corruption and religion. 

People having faith in some religion may be corrupt but on the contrary one person not having any faith in any religion may be much much honest. 

Truly speaking people claim to be religious but really most of  them are just wearing tags of some religion or the other.  They do not understand the correct teachings of their own religion.  They just know what they are taught.  And sometimes the religious leaders misguide them for their vested interests.

Corruption is major issue for the current time.  In most of the third world countries it has eaten away the development.    But in my country India; the present government led under the leadership of Narender Modi is doing very well.  It has been able  to control corruption to a large extent.  But still there is corruption in the system.  If Narender Modi regains power in 2019 elections if will be definitely a big advantage for the common  people of the country because the money is being used honestly for the projects not for corrupt officers / leaders.

Countries plagued by corruption are like milk cows for the rich. They do their rounds, make sure the money is counted and that's where their involvement in politics and the lives of ordinary people ends. Did you see what happened in Ukraine when they got to the mansion of their president? He had tennis courts, bowling alleys, everything laced in gold and carved wood. http://ukrainetrek.com/blog/photos/the-former-residence-of-viktor-yanukovych-in-mezhyhiria/
And the average salary in Ukraine is €300, which is 4 times less than the average German earns.

Agreed with your topic here. I got enlightened when I have read this topic of yours here about curruption but I dont agree with the religion in my point of view many people have different religion but a fact that base on my research here many are religious ang curious and just want to post. all in all we cant stop this posters who talks about religion. It is free will

Also yes you are right that instead of posting religious topic caring about curruption is needed and for a start that this thread should stay here because many people are going to be enlightened and going to get ideas from people who will reply here.

also speaking about curruption as from my theory that this curroption is part of history which history repeats itself. Also yes you are right have different religion that serves the Government is fine as long as there is good will.

Given the chance, most people will use corrupt means of getting what they want. It's human nature.

Some of those seven deadly sins pay the bills-vanity/pride, lust, envy..

This is why it's better to go to the root cause of the problem and create circumstances where corruption does not get you paid. Blockchain technology is a great start but there is much work to do.

Corruption is indeed the plague for the majority of countries. They share similar pattern - the group of corrupt dishonest officials milk the country of its money while, for example, investing in offshore enterprises and building their palaces.
I wonder what is the best way to tackle corruption: China has death penalty, for example, but this can hardly be implemented in other countries now. Some Blockchain based solutions come to mind, but at this point I don`t believe that corrupt officials will ever let it happen.

I agree with you. I`m very sympathetic to the people who were victims of such politicians. But I`m still tormented by the question, why is the situation like this? Didn't the people themselves bring these politicians to power?
I think that the people are also responsible for what is happening in their country. And if they have a corruption, then they must not only complain, but also do something about it.

The downside to talking about the politics, for example, is we all live in different countries, like you said. The conversation may be controversial, but it will be limited because the only people who can relate to your sentiments are those who live in the same country as you. Religion is pretty much universal though. Besides, if we're to talk about corruption, we'd be talking about for months because it's prevalent everywhere, especially in politics!

I think that religion in some countries has a very important role to cause, create, and feed dictatorship. In some countries, they use religion to let people debate about topics that have ni importance, and no impact in their lives. They use also religion to push people to obey them... etc, and different uses. They can even change religious verses to achieve their goals and remain in power..

That is right. religion is not a big deal. It is  not a problem, it is just ones own beliefs. I think most important thing in life is Humanity love and  peace. If one does take care of those it would be a human being, even i think nationally is not an important thing. rather it is a problem. how? Guess there is no USA no Russia not as a country, would there be any necessary of nuclear weapons? What's the point of it? Protecting nationally. Who knows may be nationally would be the Excuse of 3rd world war? So it can be said, Nationally is the father of nuclear weapon?

corruption is a serious problem of course but not religion. You can take care of your religion as well as humanity.


Regards.

Corruption is a problem at all levels. I’m always amazed at how corrupt people manage to abuse their power even when given the tiniest bit.

We should be cautious about accepting the word of armed groups who call governments corrupt. They are murderous and will say anything to attract more followers.  :-\

In our society there should be no place for corruption. One can achieve effective counteraction against this phenomenon only by combining the efforts of all the institutions of civil society.
With a clear and conscientious fulfillment of all the above tasks, social cohesion in the fight against any forms of corruption, personal interest of law enforcement authorities in law enforcement in the country, society has a chance to bypass the criminalization of all spheres of life through corruption.

I agree with you, it's time for us to change, change where common sense and conscience are used, not about what other people are doing, religion is trust, people who are corrupt don't have religion and religious people have gods that will lead to the road correct

I agree with you that corruption is the major thing to talk about and not religion. This issue of taking religion ahead of corruption is common in the third world countries. People have to be educated to the level where they believe that a very religious person can as well be corrupt.

Corruption is everywhere main in a poor country. How many poor how much corruption. When I see the corruption then I feel very unlucky thinking that why I was born in this country. I hate corruption, I hate dirty politics.

Corruption are starting become a tradition in the country where I live, Indonesia. It has become the norm of governments elite to do the dirty work. As an example, the corruption of local agency departments It happens in Malang where all the 41 from 45 government employees are involved in corruption. Isn't it bizarre?.

The latest viral news about corruption in the countries is the ex-prisoner of corruption is allowed to become a governments candidate yet again, for the sake of democracy. The problem is there are a lot of unliterate people in Indonesia, that make candidate have a chance to be re-elected again.

I totally agree with you, people should forget about religion, or not tolerate it in a General way.
And just to develop, become better, conquer other planets and look for other Nations. Do you agree?

Where there is greed, there will always be corruption. That will never change. Sad, but true. This world will never be perfect not matter if you're religious or not.

I agree, we must focus more on what we are facing now. Corruption is one of the problem on every country was facing. Poor people suffer more because of the corrupted people eapecially who are in the government .

No matter how much you want to, religion will not be silent. There is no problem, religion has existed for thousands of years and disputes about it are constant. The wars of the past were also largely due to religion, and people are still dying because of religion.


Corruption is a separate and very long conversation. Corruption goes with a person for hundreds of years and it is difficult to eradicate it. Where locally it is possible to repay, but still the world is suffering from corruption constantly.

Man is a creature that wants to live richly and nothing to deny. This is human psychology and this psychology is supported by many temptations that exist in our world.
Of course , each person is individual, but probably in 90% of cases, when you get power and access to money, a person has a mania of money and their theft. All say money does not happen much and it's true. Officials sitting in power for years have on their accounts 6-digit amounts but they are still small, and they take more just to have more. Yes, the economy of many countries suffers from this, and very much, but there is still no cure for corruption.

If a person in power does not believe in accountability and transparency, he or she deemed to be corrupt(at least in mind) regardless of someone can prove the person is corrupt or not.

Corruption is a matter of human nature. If I am a politician, I may also be corrupt because I have to consider my relatives or other friends. People usually want to do more. Only blockchain can solve the problem of corruption.

Personal greed that leads to an unfettered desire for money or power, with no regard whatsoever to moral boundaries. The underlying anthropological cause is the innate human impulse to own external goods, when it is not subject to personal integrity. Is personal integrity less valued than it used to be? Is there a need for religious or other types of motivation that were once stronger?

Increased regulations and control mechanisms are probably not the answer. They are costly and tend to stifle initiatives and administrative dynamics. But why not have better regulation and more effective control in areas prone to corruption. Is that so difficult?