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What do fellow bounty hunters think? We do a lot of work and don’t get our reward, we are being cheated and some administrators are behaving like freaks! Maybe it's time to unite and put forward their own conditions of the game !?
What do you think???

This is a great idea as I have been cheated times without number and I think this is a good move for us to unite. Bounty Managers and Project Team coordinators sometimes work together to cheat hunters and in some cases it is terrible. They swing the spreadsheet in their own favour just because nobody care or rather fight for hunters. Let's see what this bring and hope to retrieve some of our lost tokens back hopefully.

While this sounds like a laudable idea, I'm struggling to see the impact it will make on the bounties out there as a lot of these things are not in the control of the bounty hunter. A professional union will look like something that isn't open to every bounty hunter and will have some rules, etc. For a largely decentralized space and large unregulated, I don't see the impact this will make TBVH.

For this you need to create an organization! Who will take on such responsibility? At the moment everything is in the hands of managers! They have more resources, and mostly newcomers earn little money, older hanter have long been in investors and are involved in the bounty of the soul!

It sounds great and at the same time sounds unrealizable because these bounty managers and ICO teams are smart with their stuff, they include some fishy rules and regulations for every bounty and every bounty hunters that join their bounty campaign agree to the rules and regulations by default which make the bounty manager and the ICO team have discretion to do whatever that is in their favor, the only thing I think can help bounty hunters is total revolution in bounty industry

these ICO all of them are just taking advantage of the bounty hunters not paying properly and very delay payment the worse of all is some of this is turned out to be a scam, my suggestion is that we need to start from these bounty managers first, all we need to do is stop them from accepting scam ICO these bounty managers are accepting ICO that are not legit and scam for the sake of money this must be stopped or ban this Bounty Managers  that is greedy for money we need to act fast.

hey, nice thought! being united makes us stronger. yet we have to figure out how we are to deal with cheatings and inadequate managers. some sort of rule list, some kind of bounty consitution?

They need us just like us! What if we ask them to pay a reward every week, miss the payment and no one does not work? !!

I think we need a group consisting of professional bounty hunters, who have good attitudes and ways of speaking, not a group of people who like trash talking and spamming a project which has an effect on the team and investors' dislike of the behavior.
Maybe with a group equipped with KYC of each person, making a manager or party that needs a bounty hunter service does not hesitate to use our services

You forgot about the rules of the game. Rules that tighten every day. What makes work unbearable. I think managers get tired too. Every day to answer our stupid questions. Riot will not save the situation.

On the contrary, we should thank the organizers of the project, if you look into it, then half of all Facebook and Twitter are twisted.

WTF. most bounty hunters are spammers. even you OP is a spammer and shitposters. and you want admin to support you?? all bounty sig members are polluting the forum with non sense post !

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completely agree with you that the riot is not the way of solving the problems with the reward payments. of course there are lots of cases when bounty participants do not get the rewards and there are lots of cases when participants do not follow all the rules and do the tasks not honestly or so many bots and it also makes the process harder for managers and participants as well. so this process should be regulated in some way of course, but not through the riot process.

Yeah it can be good idea for all people working as bounty hunters and promoters to have their voice, i have also been promoting some projects and to be honest last 9 to 10 months have been slow generally due to the bear market but we have seen reduced reward, intentional delays, multiple campaign extentions and not paid by many projects, so bounty hunters have been suffering badly for almost all this year uptill now so i will strongly agree with the idea of a union for bounty workers.

Say thank you so much for giving you easy money to make for your senseless spam on Twitter and Facebook and other social networks. Twitter began to clean cryptocurrency profiles and I am very grateful to him for clearing the garbage. I do not understand why the organizers of bounty programs cannot put in conditions that the participants should have more than 50,000 subscribers, it seems to me that it will be more productive than 1,000 participants with 3,000 subscribers.

I agree that this decision requires the creation of any kind of organization and will need a person who manages and people supervising and informing others. This is likely to be unsuccessful, as many hunters are here just in pursuit of easy money and they are not interested.

Its a good idea but too unrealistic for me, being a hunter is about getting more money, and if we facing with money it will be so difficult to unite, hunters most likely tend to fighting each others too get more money, i hate this fact, and i hope someday we can unite in one strong community :)

Any possibilities would do to reduce the existence of scam projects,shit coins and fake developers.I been to alot of ICO and the experience i had was so annoying.Bounty hunters were working patiently,wait patiently until the ICOs is finished and distribution takes place..but what make it very disappointing is were waiting for nothing.Tokens or coins that is useless,developers that runs away investors money and bounty hunters hard work.

If you want a good attitude towards yourself on the part of campaign managers, then, accordingly, bounty hunters should be honest in their work. And what we see. A large number of multi-accounts and attempts of all kinds of fraud. It turns out a kind of parity, but honest people suffer from this, and I see that in the short term, there will be no order here.

24/7 we are here. Take a look. Many say that we get our coins for free. I can not agree with that. We work very much and we are often cheated. Trying to ask a question to the manager can be poured from the company. This is not fair.

This might be a game changer who knows?
Confronting this problem of be cheated on during campaigns is a big plus to the hunters if realistic.
Wait a second, remembering the rules and regulations guiding those campaigns are very strict and we are force to accept without a complain.
Pray to see it come to reality!!!!.

Meh.
Sorry but I am very doubtful when I hear that you do "a lot of hard work".

I have been doing bounty hunting for over a year now and I never thought it was hard work.
Even the "hardest" one: translations, doesn't take that much time.
I suppose if you are doing a lot of bounties at once, then it can add up and take some time.

But, wouldn't that make you a scammer too?
Most bounty projects limits you to just one bounty, you aren't allowed to do two or more from the same account.
So if you are doing a lot at once, that means either you are cheating the system or have a lot of fake accounts.
Cause there is no way that you have 5 or more legitimate twitter, facebook, bitcointalk accounts.
If you think you do, then I'm guessing you are doing a lot of copy and pasting.

It is nice idea )) But who will be such responsebility ? Its much easy to say than to do. It can be very difficult. A lot of bounty hunters are not fair in their work as well...

Just laughing.... This is hilarious. But on a serious note, it's a stellar idea.  One of the benefits of a union is a collective fight and first hand information.  If a platform like this is created, I think it will go a long way to help bounty hunters who do not know some basic signs of a good bounty. I have wasted a lot of energy and resources promoting some of projects without getting anything. I think such platform can address such issue to some extent.

Creating a bounty hunter alliance is an excellent idea as we can set common rules to avoid risks. But you can see that no one stands out to set it up, this is one of the things we need to solve. Some have groups like Amazix that control and assist hunters in the avoidance of fake bounty and poor quality.

I think it's a great idea but enforcing it is something I doubt will work because unlike traditional institutions that are regulated, crypto is not and you can actually take any defaulting ICO to court. Even investors who contribute money for these ICOs don't even have any guarantee of their investment, how much more bounty hunters.

i think taht bounty campaigns are really good and we need to try at least what it is before cruitising them all

tjere are aa lot of good thing and i believe taht we will see many good projects coming and we can wait for them it is worth it

I also favor this idea because as you said that there are bounty managers that are cheating us by not giving the right amount of tokens but i think some of these bounty managers were already red trusted here in the forum. They have been reported to the DTs and got what they deserved. One way of showing protest to those bounty managers that are cheaters is not to participate anymore to their bounty programs thus making their promoted project failed.

that wpyld be fuuny to see how this society is going to live jd how dp ythey wa cept new mebers sp i wpuld like to participate just for fun

Fraud and deception are already tired of many bounty hunters. The problem is that the community does not exist in a generalized and cohesive way, and the company is a mechanism that pursues its interests.

that is a really funny usniuo i wpuld like to see an dmaybe evn tp participate why not so there are some things taht can be i teresting

bou ty campaigns arw not necesaary in our wolrd but i think taht we will see them and we will use them sowmhow

You idea to make a union for bounty hunters is good but i think things will already done to punished these BM who are cheating their participants and the ICO as well. Lately, most of the bounty managers that have issues with it's participants were already tagged and negged by the DTs.

I agree. Where to send your membership fee?  ;D
The idea is reasonable, but there should be real mechanisms for affecting managers of bounty campaigns.

I guess some bounty managers have been punished if caught cheating on bounties. What you have in mind sounds really great, but it will require a lot of effort and work. Joining bounties also requires risk since we all know that some bounties are scam, and that there are possibilities that the Devs or managers can make excuses to delay payment.

I do not think that it is possible to create something like that, to begin with bounty hunters are accepting to work in something that is incredibly risky, you should know that most icos are not going to pay you or if they do the value of the coins that they use to pay you is going to be very low, I was under the impression that bounty hunters knew this and they accepted the conditions despite all of that.

Do you really think there is a point in organising the bounty hunters? For which scenarios would such an union protect their members? QOMPASS springs to mind. There all bounty participants got screwed as that project never materialized. I am not sure how a Union could help with that.

I know it sucks to be cheated but the idea on your mind wont really be possible. Even all bounty hunters would unite, what are the things they can do? As a hunter you cant do nothing
when the team didn't pay us out but one things for sure, once they do messed up on that thing it will already impact into their reputation but well it doesn't really matter at all specially
when the project is really tending to scam on the first place.This is why its always been important to target out legit projects.

 This is a welcome idea. I will support anything that will bring justice to the bounty hunters. Imagine working for 6 month and waiting for another 6 month for token distributions. And at the end of the day, they only give you 1% of the total token you earn form the bounty. That is ridicules and cheating.

The whole is a nice idea, but i could not say how to enforce something like this. If there was such a thing, i would certainly support that. Bountie hunter united!  :) ;D

I don't think any good will come of it. I don't think we can influence the managers in any way. Any activity carries its own risks and bounty is no exception. To put forward some requirements it is necessary that more people united. But you can't do that.

If this can happen, then the earlier the better. I have seen a lot of bounties where participants were being cheated. Although, its long i have been a victim to that.
I still see folks complain almost every time.
In almost all spheres of life, union always play significant role in ensuring that the rights of members are secured.
Also, i have come to the understanding that there is power in unity, if only people will agree to be united.

Although unions don't seem very attractive to me since they usually become abusive mafias,  I agree that we should unite as a community, many cases of abuse are committed on both sides and if bounty hunters and managers unite to solve these problems, I think that in the end, we would all benefit from it.

I think the most difficult task in any venture is getting started.
If there is a union, and they make it known that bounty procceds must be paid in Ether or any other established token; with the contract of the fund, already made available with a particular manager for distribution; belive me, the issues that bounty hunters are passing through will be halve solved.

You may want to know if that makes any point and i'll ask; if you see a bounting hunting activity planned out the way that is currently obtained; and another with such little suggestion as i stipulated above, which one will you go for?

I commend whoever that is initiating such idea, and i hope it comes to fruition.
With time; we will get it all right.

That will really make a whole lot of sense but sense we are located in different past of the world where different people have different views, it might be hard to co-ordinate such a union because many people will still not pay attention but if such a union comes out, I will be in full support

hmm well thought out and idea and sounds cool but won't be an easy task because it means that bounty hunters will speak with one voice. Also it will only be effective if there's a way the bounty tokens can be escrowed so that it is released immediately to hunters after the ico.

The demand of bounty hunters is less than the supply of the service provided by hunters so we cant control the game. The lack of regulation in the bounty hunting job is also a reason hunters can't set the rules because every bounty manager and team can change their mind on the required allocation of tokens along the line.

Yes, I do agree with that. Many managers do not treat the job which they are doing seriously or do not do it properly.
Sometimes you got fewer stakes than some others, even your work is better. We are pushed with strict deadlines to do KYC and claim the earned tokens and afterwards, they are not listed for months.

At least managers have to do a better job and be more careful. I hope there will be soon a transparent and a fair platform opened.

I am not so sure this is the right time to start an initiative like this, because everything seems to indicate that the market is dying slowly and there are few prospects in the medium term for a certain recovery. In reality many projects only aspire to survive and bounty managers are not responsible for this situation, so perhaps it is time to look for new alternatives to generate free money.

I don't buy this idea of forming a Union of bounty hunters because thereafter there is the tendency of people abusing the Union by indulging in other negative activities that is against the rule of this forum, this is a public forum as a bounty hunter you take the risk as a participants without any input from any external union.

yes I also feel that way, many of the successful projects don't pay and even pay. there are pieces after being asked that there must be reasons that don't make sense. but if there really is one who deserves it, I think this will turn to the bounty hunter.

There are already so much groups that promotes the right of the bounty hunters over those fraudulent ICOS who's promises is not guaranteed to be real. I join the telegram group mad hunter and there, we discuss the issue of different ICOS.

I think your idea is a good idea and will make bounty campaign world better. Bounty hunters will be organized and can give feedback to each other and also we as bounty hunters can review bounty campaign one another to minimize the scams. I support if this idea works. Don't hesitate to invite me. Thanks

Sounds great. I think we need to put up some telegram group for the bounty hunters so that we can Unite for our benefit also.

well before you join the bounty you can always Double checked them before joining them tho, on that you can identify them as a scam or not its not always the fault of bounty manager although some bounty manager tend to ignore those things but you should take responsible also for your actions. i only participate in well known bounty manager that has good reputation so i wont be dealing with headache in near futures

Few hunters can't make this happen, all you need do is keep gathering hunters and their views about the state of art of the bounty sphere with time it will be achieved.

The idea is wonderful, but there are too many people willing to participate in the bounty. You will leave, another will come to your place. At what he will receive a great reward if you will not. It would be nice to create a bounty union that would defend their rights. But while this is a deplorable idea. Many people lose big money by investing in scam projects. And they will not be able to return them. We only lose our time.

That`s the great idea, if all bounty must pay their participants weekly we can determine which project are not good in the begging, because if  dont receive your payment weekly those project are not good, so we can avoid those project earlier. 

be careful of the bounty manager who trusts, indeed there are many out there who have committed violations for their own sake there are also those who unwittingly attend the participants or the development team for the need for a portal for bounty

I think that any war will not be without loss. I think they just will not hire us. There will be many difficulties. You can also try.

Hi, everybody. It's a good idea to team up. Only the structure of this Union is unclear. What will this Union be responsible for? What powers does he have? It's not even clear how he'll protect bounty hunters. In fact, there are many questions about the creation of the Union and its work.

I totally agree, this is a good idea to help protect your rights and interests. But who is going to organize everyone's union? Is there a Bounty Hunters Association？
Maybe you should first set up a telegram group, then set up a website for everyone to discuss, and there should be some experienced hunters responsible for negotiating with the bounty manager.

since the market has fallen dramatically in 2018, suddenly the funds that can be collected by ico based on the charts have decreased dramatically. we also cannot blame completely about this delay because if we see from the funds that can be obtained by ico from investors that are only a few, it is certain that ico is bankrupt. but don't worry, everything can still be fixed.

how do you imagine that? there will be those bounty hunters who are unprofitable to unite with others and they will all exactly participate behind others on their own terms.

Now many ICO can not raise funds to bring about the present situation. I think many bounty managers will defend their own interests.How to ensure the interests of all parties is the key to solve this problem.

I like this idea . Moreover, I do not understand why such a trade union has not yet been created. Bounty hunters too often become victims of scammers and we need to somehow protect our rights. I am ready to do what it takes to make it happen. Where do I need to sign?

I will be watching this topic, I have that in my mind too. I think we must build this union to fight not only on scammers but also on cheaters. Our job is not for free, we use our time and pay the internet and electricity bills. A lot of us are abused even by some reputable projects, maybe its time to craft a mechanism for us to protect our rights.

Yes, absolutely it's a great idea, which can help the bounty hunters to get their reward. Because we work so hard to promote the project and it's our right to get this reward for that work. We give them our valuable time, energy and instead of that we definitely will have to get that reward.

This question has already been discussed many times. But it did not give any results.
Because there is a lot of information and no one can assume such responsibility.
There have already been several attempts to create a company and enter the ICO with this idea. Unfortunately all of them were unsuccessful.
However, I agree with the author that something needs to be done. This can not continue further.

As an idea it is a good one, but I think it will  not happen to be united. If an ICO wants to scam they will do it , regardless if we
are united or not. I think that we have still to fight back on micro level and have to accept that not all our bounty campaigns will
be successful. The whole ICO market need more regulations and with that many problems for hunters will disappear automatically.

I so much cerich this idea, and if they refuse to make everyone payments the whole participants back off and people can claim they're scam for not fulfilling one of their first promises, and we'll have them begging. Smile.. Lovely

       Unity is always been a good idea especially if we have a particular purpose and this time is to fight back against greedy ICO and greedy manager and also including scammers and hackers so why not to convince others to join , I suggest to have official booth to brought our message .

As an bounty hunter, hunters are responsible to choose the best project as per their choices and going due diligence. No bounty managers or ICO team forces hunters to join their bounty campaign than what's the use of forming proffessinal unions of bounty hunters???

It's a good idea to create a trade union. Perhaps this could affect the situation that is now happening on the forum.

If there are such requirements, it is likely that bounty hunters will be divided into two camps, as one will be profitable that the second ceased to participate in the ICO. Managers most likely will not react in any way and it will be good if after this strike again not to complicate the rules and will not introduce any new "merits".

What a good idea to call for a unity among bounty hunters, but I think that you forget that the space we are moving around is a decentralized and full of anonimity. So, that makes everything difficult. How can we unite if we don't know who we are and whi are we figthing for.

We have seen most of the users making complains regarding that serious matter. It is a good idea to have it. But as of now, while it is being processed, the best way for those bounty managers that can not make victims anymore, is to mark them with red trust.

I think this is a good idea, but we also have to think about this bounty hunter union as a form of professional organization of how the rights and obligations of participants as a bounty hunter certainly aim to bring justice to bounty hunters and no harmful elementsunilaterally for bounty or bounty hunter administrators.

That really is an interesting idea but how can it be.Most of the bounty hunters does not want to give their identification, they don't wany kyc and for good reason.So I think they will not be very interested to give their identification for a union.And if you don't get identification, how can you know who is who, who is a bounty hunter, who is an alt account of another bounty hunter looking to cheat the system.

Administrator and moderation act like that because there are so many cheaters in bounty hunters, they're trying to cheat bounty campaigns by using multi account. Beside bounty hunters always seemed like spammers because of low quality posts. It'll be fine if you're a bounty hunter with good quality post. That's all.

One question. Since when did you start doing bounties?
Looks like you lack the experience and also you dont know  their rules.

If they fail you get nothing, most of them fail now. I could count easily those who have successfully made it to ths hard cap. Out of thousands of ICO's out there. 2 percent aint that big so you might want to reconsider another way of making money rather than just hoping an ICO will pay you.

you can try, but as far as remember, this is not a first idea in this direction and till now there is no weapon against scammers

This will really be a nice move but how do we intend to start that and make it to work? I think in as much as it is a good idea but I don't think it is really achievable because we are in different countries of the world.

It would be nice to have such an organization but who would be in charge , why would somebody take time and effort to
fight for other hunters , who would lead such an organization, what would be the benefit for him/them, what is the guarantee
 that they will not  scam us as well ? Only some of the questions on my mind.

How do I unify a lot of those who are in this forum? It's not easy because it would be a bad receptacle community or organization. Perhaps the idea that you come up with is quite good, but nothing will be realized easily in the crypto field. not to mention when it is precisely one of the scammers are also entered, then it will complicate the condition.

I think it is a good idea to create a group or union which bounty hunters can express their opinions and feelings about their common problems as a bounty hunter. In this way, bounty hunters can suggest a new idea how to improve the process of paying for bounties and moderation of the bounty works.

And that is why it won't work, it seems like a nice idea but when you begin to try to make that idea a reality you find that there are impossible obstacles to overcome, how are you going to make that people all over the world from different countries are going to all agree to create an organization that protects them? And even if you did that as impossible as it sounds, how is that organization going to protect the bounty hunters?