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Economy => Reputation => Topic started by: marlboroza on November 09, 2018, 11:32:21 PM



Title: Trust abuse! Injustice! Fake trust by winter! Much butthurt I am!
Post by: marlboroza on November 09, 2018, 11:32:21 PM
I was recently re-posting some of lauda's feedback, and I've tagged account winter (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=100039) with following comment:
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Reposting lauda's comment:

"Begging for donations via "Free" acceleration services. All he does is spam/abuse other services; i.e. user is a con artist without any actual way of accelerating that someone else does not have."
This is archived thread (https://archive.is/f6HeW) where OP said that they are offering their own transaction accelerator :
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Hello to everyone on the forums. I'm now offering my own Transaction Accelerator.

In 100% cases I don't tag anyone without doing some research before, and sometimes it is required to double if not triple check some cases, so why I am saying this?

Because, user said what they said, and looking at that archived thread and specifically one post which is deleted, but archived here https://archive.is/f6HeW#selection-2541.0-2541.25 , winter said transaction is added and later confirmed:

Quote from: winter
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Quote from: winter on January 15, 2018, 11:40:20 AM
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Quote from: Dided1981 on January 15, 2018, 06:35:34 AM
Can you help me speed up this transaction db3db56591a9a9043a4546c4be0de1226ae33a19961ccc2f6027e3d3c59e2568
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Quote from: gretham on January 15, 2018, 06:40:34 AM
PLZ HELP
4c4abe73cf5edd7d65c1c5591b2a005267a54ada4c47ee89a046f13781d39a47

both have been added

both have been confirmed


So, I checked first TxID, and then second TxID(logically):

First transaction https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/db3db56591a9a9043a4546c4be0de1226ae33a19961ccc2f6027e3d3c59e2568 --> block was mined by ViaBTC https://www.blockchain.com/btc/block-index/1666935 which is free btc transaction accelerating service.

Second transaction https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/4c4abe73cf5edd7d65c1c5591b2a005267a54ada4c47ee89a046f13781d39a47 --> also ViaBTC https://www.blockchain.com/btc/block-index/1665937

Not only that they lied that they are offering their own accelerator, they even begged tips for it:

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TIP : Y/N : WHAT COIN TXID :

So, what bugs me here is false feedback received by mentioned member, winter claims that I am the one who is offering service which doesn't exist, visible on their trust wall https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=100039 and for better visibility:

https://i.imgur.com/j1GRnOJ.png

https://i.imgur.com/5pRBy7d.png

Well, that is blatant lie and blatant trust abuse, someone please do something because I can't take it any more. My family suffers.


Title: Re: Trust abuse! Injustice! Fake trust by winter! Much butthurt I am!
Post by: SFR10 on November 10, 2018, 10:33:13 AM
So, what bugs me here is false feedback received by mentioned member, winter claims that I am the one who is offering service which doesn't exist, visible on their trust wall https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=100039 and for better visibility:
~Snipped~
Well, that is blatant lie and blatant trust abuse, someone please do something because I can't take it any more. My family suffers.
Unfortunately, that doesn't fall into the "extreme abuse (e.g. Red trust spam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608026.0))" category; therefore, it stays :(

Trust spam isn't allowed. If I see anyone posting dozens of fake trust ratings (from one account or many alt accounts), I will delete all of their ratings.
~Snipped~
I agree that it is a little annoying to see a wall of negative ratings, but this is in the "untrusted" section. The way things are set up currently, untrusted ratings can be easily spammed in a number of ways. That's why those ratings are hidden by default.


Title: Re: Trust abuse! Injustice! Fake trust by winter! Much butthurt I am!
Post by: Findingnemo on November 10, 2018, 04:16:05 PM
So, what bugs me here is false feedback received by mentioned member, winter claims that I am the one who is offering service which doesn't exist, visible on their trust wall https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=100039 and for better visibility:
~Snipped~
Well, that is blatant lie and blatant trust abuse, someone please do something because I can't take it any more. My family suffers.
Unfortunately, that doesn't fall into the "extreme abuse (e.g. Red trust spam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608026.0))" category; therefore, it stays :(

Trust spam isn't allowed. If I see anyone posting dozens of fake trust ratings (from one account or many alt accounts), I will delete all of their ratings.
~Snipped~
I agree that it is a little annoying to see a wall of negative ratings, but this is in the "untrusted" section. The way things are set up currently, untrusted ratings can be easily spammed in a number of ways. That's why those ratings are hidden by default.
So he actually spams the trust page too because we can see the send feedbacks from winter trust's page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=100039) without appropriate references other than the link to his own thread.

He needs to be reported to admin about this case?!


Title: Re: Trust abuse! Injustice! Fake trust by winter! Much butthurt I am!
Post by: Astargath on November 10, 2018, 05:41:02 PM
I thought this post was a joke, no?


Title: Re: Trust abuse! Injustice! Fake trust by winter! Much butthurt I am!
Post by: Karisma Black on November 10, 2018, 06:06:49 PM
I thought this post was a joke, no?
It was at first but now it has become about spamming trust ratings. ;)


Title: Re: Trust abuse! Injustice! Fake trust by winter! Much butthurt I am!
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on November 10, 2018, 06:21:21 PM
Well, that is blatant lie and blatant trust abuse, someone please do something because I can't take it any more. My family suffers.
Yeah well, I'm sure you're used to this sort of shit since you got added to DT.  My PM inbox is full of tales of how my feedback is causing members to starve to death, and that I abuse animals, etc., etc. 

At least you're doing research into the feedbacks Lauda left, which is something I don't have the time or (sometimes specialized) detective skills to do.  That's why I was against just duplicating Lauda's negs en masse and why I didn't step up to help.  Props to you and the others who did it the right way.

I propose a toast to starvation and family destruction.  Cheers.


Title: Re: Trust abuse! Injustice! Fake trust by winter! Much butthurt I am!
Post by: Vod on November 10, 2018, 09:03:28 PM
I propose a toast to starvation and family destruction.  Cheers.

 :-[

Sad thing is, most of these people are from very religious countries, where they believe sperm should not be wasted.

They will continue to reproduce until there is mass famine.  It's sad, but it's a way of life over there.


Title: Re: Trust abuse! Injustice! Fake trust by winter! Much butthurt I am!
Post by: bones261 on November 11, 2018, 12:24:35 AM
At least you're doing research into the feedbacks Lauda left, which is something I don't have the time or (sometimes specialized) detective skills to do.  That's why I was against just duplicating Lauda's negs en masse and why I didn't step up to help.  Props to you and the others who did it the right way.

Have any of the DT2 members added Lauda to their trust list? Wouldn't that make Lauda level 3? I have my trust up to level 4, so her ratings would then appear as trusted by me.


Title: Re: Trust abuse! Injustice! Fake trust by winter! Much butthurt I am!
Post by: marlboroza on November 11, 2018, 02:14:58 AM
I thought this post was a joke, no?
I would never do such thing  ::)
Have any of the DT2 members added Lauda to their trust list? Wouldn't that make Lauda level 3? I have my trust up to level 4, so her ratings would then appear as trusted by me.
Level 3 yes but not visible if you are running on "defaulttrust settings" because Lauda was excluded by DT1, so his rating will appear only if you manually add to your trust network DT1 or DT2 member who added Lauda to their trust network (you can find it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;full) or any other member who added Lauda, or Lauda.


Title: Re: Trust abuse! Injustice! Fake trust by winter! Much butthurt I am!
Post by: sirazimuth on November 11, 2018, 03:34:01 PM
Sad thing is, most of these people are from very religious countries, where they believe sperm should not be wasted.
.....

indeed... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk)


Title: Re: Trust abuse! Injustice! Fake trust by winter! Much butthurt I am!
Post by: suchmoon on November 11, 2018, 09:36:53 PM
At least you're doing research into the feedbacks Lauda left, which is something I don't have the time or (sometimes specialized) detective skills to do.  That's why I was against just duplicating Lauda's negs en masse and why I didn't step up to help.  Props to you and the others who did it the right way.

Have any of the DT2 members added Lauda to their trust list? Wouldn't that make Lauda level 3? I have my trust up to level 4, so her ratings would then appear as trusted by me.

I got Lauda in my list but as marlboroza already explained that's not gonna do much. I think you're better off customizing your own trust list. Level 4 sounds excessive :)