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in 2013, the bitcoin condition that affected the value of bitcoin was very good, Germany legalized bitcoin and considered "private money", zipzap services increased the volume of bitcoin for 2014, 12000 restaurants in US received transactions using bitcoin, and ebay also received services for bitcoin transactions.

and that is a positive condition that can make bitcoin have a higher value, and in reality, bitcoin creates graphics better than in 2012.

and today, we see that many positive conditions, but do not affect bitcoin to create bullish, what happens with bitcoin?

The fact is that in addition to the fact that bitcoin is sometimes overtaken by good news, we increasingly see that bad news comes more often. A lot of countries since then have banned the use of bitcoin or imposed large taxes on it. Such news has a very negative impact on bitcoin and by 2018 this peak reached its apogee.

Perhaps because many people (investors) were disappointed with ICO scam, negative perceptions of Crypto were excessive so there were many positive conditions, but it did not affect bitcoin to create bullish.

Things Just don't happen over night and the biggest problem with some people is the expect only a bullish trend throughout. Well the reality is where there is a massive bullish trend, there is a massive bearish trend after words.
Your question really makes me think you really never witness the Late 2017 bullish trend. Everyone who had some good cryptos enjoyed it and upto now i still feel good about it.
So it does matter how long it will take, if you are into long term Just stick around... the bullish trend will eventually come and when it does, Don't be so greedy, Cash out what you can , prepare for the deep... buy again  and wait.

these "positive" things you are talking about always exist. they don't go anywhere. every day we have something positive about bitcoin but now that price is not moving you happen to focus on them more and become surprised that price isn't rising. the fact is bitcoin will rise but not because of some positive news but because its adoption is growing.

I think the major announcement everyone is waiting for is the SEC-ETF pronouncement. This very announcement is like the key that is holding the life and death of bitcoin. Unfortunately, Sec has been postponing this announcement for the 3rd consecutive time and people are getting apprehensive and could no longer wait for the announcement.

yes, it is clear that the current bitcoin condition tends to be stagnant at 90k, it seems it does not want to move and this is not only influenced by what you mentioned but also many outstanding issues tend to be negative towards bitcoin. But on the other hand it cannot be denied that more and more people are adopting bitcoin as a big thing, so that bitcoin will grow and eventually it will also bloom.

This has nothing to do with the announcement of SEC-ETF because bitcoin has been working and organize since then Satoshi Nakamoto created this forum. It was only a concern then when bitcoin holders has been complaining of hi jacking attack from the hackers. If only there were no fraudsters, scammers, and hijackers then probably SEC-ETF is not needed.

Perhaps one reason is that investors are still holding back their disappointment this year, we know that last year's bitcoin has reached its highest price level and that is very inversely proportional to this year. Even so, too many people feel that crypto is the best way to get rich quick but it's actually difficult.

Lately so many positive news coming out in favor of btc more and more merchants are accepting btc lifting of bans in China and India and other good news that should fuel the price to go up but your correct there is no positive movement for the btc price it keeps stable at 6.3k$ level maybe whales and big-time investors are controlling the price not to go higheraybecwe have to wait a little more.

It is not a quick rich scheme where anyone can become super rich quickly. It is demand and supply game and also depending upon out of 1000's coins which right coin do you hold and whose value increases over the period of years will matter in the long run. May be in shorter term couple of times you may make some money but not possible to repeat every time. Also due to volatility crypto always have a roller coaster ride and after fall it also bounces back with much stronger.

the only difference between now and any previous year including 2013 is the size of the market and that is because of the bitcoin adoption that is always happening. in other words today there are more bitcoin investors that there were back in 2013.
everything else is irrelevant like news whether it is good or bad.

maybe some good news in 2013 contributed to the rise and also the trend of that time was a rising one but the main reason for the 2013 bubble was the fake pump of Mt Gox! and there is no good news there.

as for this year we are at the end of a downtrend and you can't expect the price to just reverse up. this is not a ball that you bounced off the ground! it need to stay at the bottom a little and be "accumulated" before reversing up.

The market got larger, more players went in, and these type of news ended up not affecting the whole bitcoin market anymore given that there are a lot of trades happening around here and there. Looking back at 2012-2013, bitcoin was not so big and almost every media outlets rarely know about the cryptocurrency, until such time that each bitcoin was worth $1100 in November 2013 that caused the craze and hysteria around the market. Afterwards, any news surfacing online affects the price, come 2016 when China stopped influencing the price and everything started from that.

Bitcoin in a short period of time ( 6 years ) showed an amazing growth that shook the whole world. I do not think that it will stop at the naddnom stage of development and in the next couple of years we will again be pleasantly surprised !

in my opinion 2013 is the rise of bitcoins like 2017 and 2018 is a year of bad luck for bitcoin and I think 2019 is a year like 2013 hopefully just like that from me thank you

The era of hype of bitcoin has passed. We are now in the real world of cryptos. You should not expect the same thing as though we are still in 2013. I in particular, I am not expecting any more bitcoin growth like we witnessed in late 2017, where overnight, bitcoin could gain over $1,000.

2013 is like we get a big profit, it cannot be denied if 2013 is our glory, while now 2018 is our fate, we are usually hoping that prices will hopefully be stable and rise dramatically.

Everything is in crypto trading. It became forbidden in some countries and the biggest of them is China. Crypto trading is the basis od bullish market and loosing of such huge player as China hurted the market a lot. I do not see any positive changing on the market which would sharply move the price up if only China change its politic about crypto trading.

From 2013 to onward if we see many changes have seen in the crypto and the value of bitcoin have been changed rapidly from 2013 to now and if the future it will show more changes but for now the bitcoin is very important for new businesses and bitcoin have the ability to keep it for the next generations and it is true that bitcoin is the currency of the future.

The period from 2013 to 2018 is too long. Bitcoin has experienced many difficulties, and now it has an incredible price. You can see a lot of people have become rich by Bitcoin. Bitcoin is like a godly complex, and I believe this is always a bit of astonishing history of Bitcoin.

it's simple. Actually, good news never make the price of btc rise.

I remenber a lot of good news in 2014, 2015, 2016...and the price have stayed always low.

It's something else that move the price.

As I see it, Bitcoin has attained a level of maturity in terms of adoption and popularity
It is unlikely to bubble as it did late 2017/ early 2018.
Now we should expect more gradual organic and sustauneble growth.

at this time bitcoin is in good condition and the price is quite stable at the price of $ 6400, I think the price of bitcoin will not pump because barita is good as more and more are using bitcoin, which happened in different years, bitcoin is high in the past year hardfork, so many people choose to buy more bitcoin to get the benefits of getting free coins, bch, btg, bcd

The positive news I think we need now is more use cases of Bitcoin in our day-to-day activities in the real world, which some companies have started like Alibaba using the blockchain technology to track orders. More of such is highly needed to give more confidence to investors or Bitcoin holders.

I can't understand. Bitcoin has affect any bad news last 6-7 months and prices has fallen. But now, everyday coming good news but price is almost stable.

In 2013 Bitcoins was limited to certain countries it wasn't global till 2016 end where it suddenly shot up in all countries. If you say 2013 you need to remember Mt Gox event also took place then, at least we have seen nothing like that now, also it's pertinent to note there was little or no fud back then, but now each and every media, government and big business owners have made a habit of spreading fud and bashing bitcoins hence the downfall. However soon all this will fade and bitcoins shall rise once again.

Today Bitcoin is absolutely manipulated asset. The good news will raise it price if only the whales will want it too. Maybe the world's crisis will change this situation.

Things have changed from 2013 to 2018 in the bitcoin arena. People have a lot more trust and internet in Bitcoin now-a-days as compare to the early days. Also this market is the future now and bitcoin in a position to replace all the currencies.

I just say a little it won't be cool if the price of bitcoin will grow in the near future, I will be happy if you want to find information on analysis and discuss with me on the thread here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5043315.0)

Bitcoin has actually achieved a lot tremendously in the past. Such successes have not really been used by the developers this year to spike the prices, neither did they create new opportunities to spring up the price.

First of all, I need to say that thing. I'm a Bitcoin holder. Actually, at this time I'm in sad because we know the whole crypto market was down. That situation is really effective for me because I have hold a few Bitcoins. You know in 2017 the price of BTC is in between 19000$ - 20000 $. But at this time it price was decreased heavily. However, I will never sell my Bitcoin in that market condition. I will hold it 2/3 years.

2013 and 2018 are huge contrasts in bitcoin's dynamis and growth.
2013 and 2017 were very much similar in about every aspect.
The peak of butcoin which was reached in 2013 was not matched until 2017 and the price soared so high and that peak has not been matched till date.

2018 has been a very slow, stable year with more sustained prices.

One difference between bitcoin, between 2013 and currently 2018 is the number of users, then some people who have chosen altcoin to anticipate their choices in crypto (especially in terms of price). But even though until now bitcoin will still be the idol of many people to have!

When it is reach it's peak i think a lot of hype happen with bitcoin, that is why when it already down no more hype because no good news, big good news that come again from bitcoin. I think this price already good btw.

this is a whale manipulation and I am sure that we will start growing only when the big players want it

my predictions, bitcoin losses their popularity, it means that bitcoin hard to increase the value, and i think it will hjappen for a while, in the future bitcoin will increase more and more again

From the beginning I joined Bitcoin I was alert to price movements that can change. so in conditions like this, I still maintain the bitcoin that I have. I think prices are falling because many holders are starting to sell bitcoin so that they influence the value and influence of declining bitcoin demand.

We'll see, surely a good day will continue to be present for bitcoiner, learning about crypto provides many opportunities for work and achievement, especially being able to manage digital assets. Bitcoin 2013 illustrates next year and many hope that it will be a better year in the crypto market.

it is true that the price of bitcoin is increasing every year with good news, but for now the price is too long to sleep, but for the end of 2018 I believe prices will recover.

well, this difference is so far away. in 2013, I think that was a beginning, and now the development of bitcoin is quite good. although the value of the price is lower compared to 2017, but this is still quite good compared to before.

can't be denied because bitcoin is the first digital currency to expect that bitcoin will continue to rise in price, but this is already in 2018 almost in 2019, everyone wants the price to go up, but not coupled with the purchase of bitcoin, just according to it, just wishful thinking

What happens now is that Bitcoin market it's more mature, to make an example I would choose the last two ETF denials or extensions. The expectancy of an approval it was pretty low so its reflected in the price because is what everybody knows, same happens with the altcoin market. We are going in a maturation stage, so until we see the biggest capitals joining and accepting their stakes of bitcoin the price will not move so much.

In those five years bitcoin make a lot of success. At 2013 it has less number of user and its market price is also low in comparison to the present prices of bitcoin. In 2013 its price is approximately 233$ but its price gradually increases and in 2018 its price is approximately 6000$. This price figure of bitcoin shows how much improve bitcoin in less than 5 years. And this also shows how it become more sustained and stable. User number of its also increase and it also use for many things too.

Bitcoin has been through some many stages from buying two pizza with ten thousand to bitcoin reaching it highest value at 20000$ as of last year. The current price has fallen but it still doesn't under values bitcoin worth

maybe what you see is just good news so far, but in reality there is still a lot of bad news that makes bitcoin fall. Bitcoin is still in the red zone, so inevitably we have to be patient waiting for it to come out, it won't be long, look like 2015 then the condition of bitcoin

Well right, if the holders sells bitcoin on a large scale, it will really affect the price situation. However that is unpredictable, this is the thing that must be understood if investing or trading bitcoin. It could be that in the next year there will be massive sales again and make prices worse than now.

You say that negative impact more often affects bitcoin this year, from all the negative factors that affect the price of bitcoin, in your opinion, what factors are bigger and dominate bitcoin so that bitcoin is down this year?

Thank you for your answer, we must have a solution to avoid any scam ICO. choosing a good investment place in each ICO is a more difficult choice than the trading world.

investors must be more careful when investing in an ICO, the important point that must be considered is the vision and mission, and project prospects in the future.

I watched the bullish trend at the end of 2017, and it really makes me happy. because at that time I have a small piece of bitcoin.

but we don't discuss about that, and we discuss more specifically about the growth of bitcoin this year and 2013.

because the reality has a very significant difference, even after MTgox went bankrupt, bitcoin can recover quickly. but now ? what do we see?

now bitcoin is down again, in your opinion, is the big sale affecting this situation? or there are many other factors? I see that the reality of bitcoin is very sensitive than fiat.

That is why we must prepared with all what happen to bitcoin, so we people not panic and not do anything careless with their investment. If we already know what bitcoin do, we can survive in any of it is condition.

Yeah but we are not sure if the same pattern is going to happen again, anyway, i am more than confident on bitcoin and i like the way that it is going, but the price is not sustainable.

I think that it can not be over $6,000 anymore, until something extremely good happens.

Anyway, just my two cents.

Sadly but thats what happening now, since bitcoin was becoming popular. Many people are against on it especially the government, on the other side of all the good things that was happening in bitcoin, there are so many fake news spreading in the social media. We are lucky to be honest because its value was higher than what it is way back 2012.

      He did not understand the natural disasters for the countries that banned bitcoin trading. I do not understand, but I'm sure Bitcoin will surprise us again in a pleasant way, as he has done so many times. Bitcoin showed a tremendous development in previous years and I'm sure he will not stop here. China had the most influence on Bitcoin, because many big investors were Chinese. I think this ban does not last long, we, the crypto enthusiasts, will again benefit.

The situation in China is not that bad. We know that China banned encrypted currency trading in September 2017, but since then Bitcoin has started a very strong rise. In addition, bitcoin is still widely spread in China, and users are still active. Bitcoin is the trend of human development and will not stop because of the opposition of individual governments.

Agree that china has a big influence in crypto currency specially in trading, the huge demand of bitcoin helps the value rise until on the highest pick but when china creates a new coin which is NEO the bitcoin value slowly decreasing because chinese will start to hold neo than bitcoin and the demand will decrease and the whole crypto was affected.

Yesterday all big wallets made big profit falling down the market. I hop they next step will be rise of the prices and new pump.

You know why bitcon price don’t get bullish again?Because  most of the cryptonians now has an attitude like you.aside from being stupid

People like you entered cryptocurrency just to gain and nothing else,while people from the past comes inside the community to learn the technology and use it for their own accessibility

There are a lot of people opposed to Bitcoin and a lot of bad news about Bitcoin in the mass media. But luckily for us, Bitcoin prices have gone up a lot.There are a lot of people opposed to Bitcoin and a lot of bad news about Bitcoin in the mass media. But luckily for us, Bitcoin prices have gone up a lot.

if we look at the development of bitcoin from year to year it is indeed greatly increasing but in 2018 bitcoin has experienced a decline in prices and this is a game of investors trying to disrupt the current bitcoin market so that many panic then sell their assets

It's normal to say what happened in year 2013 can still repeat itself in year 2018. Bitcoin Is a decentralized peer-to-peer cryptocurrency and  it's highly volatile, there some unforeseen circumstances are bound to happen as a result of this.

It was have some big difference from now in year 2013 to 2018, The difference of it was the prices since the bitcoin enter in a year of 2018 was have some high price and many store also accepted bitcoin as payment even if the transaction was fast for now. And also many country are legalize bitcoin and accept it as a money for them.

I think that btc 2013 and 2018 differ but with time we will have btc re-branding and with time we will have btc 2019 which will be even more powerful than other coins and than btc we have now

It's a seesaw between good and bad news for Bitcoin wherein bad news today slightly rides the higher part. But of course, even if bad or fake news floods in, we all know what Bitcoin has to offer. It's a mind game. Those who has a weak and slow mind often times loses.

Even there are some positive conditions about bitcoin, Bitcoin and crypto's price is easily affected by the negative news. In addition to this, the price is going down, there are not much positive news,

All-time one does not have the price of Bitcoin. Bitcoin's price increased in 2013. like as 2017 is good time for crypto. but unfortunately 2018 is not good for crypto. I think, 2019 will good for crypto.

Many factors cause the price of bitcoin to continue to fall, due to the existence of Bitcoin Cash Hard Fork, then the Saudi Arabian government prohibits the use of bitcoin, and many investors turn away from bitcoin so that the volume becomes smaller and less so.

for now, I think, Saudi Arabia is not the reason for that. well, but I think there are many other things that make bitcoin lower. well, for now, a low price is sweeping the cryptocurrency, and certainly making a big loss for those who hold it back. and the current situation is different from 2013.

Because of too much impressive price of bitcoin some people override the good situation and have intention using it in a wrong way that's why we are now suffered the bad result because of so many negative issue, bad news direct to the point of bitcoin that's what happening in 2018 for 2013 even if the price is not too much higher but no people wanted to make sabotage.

I also believe that the mass utilization of Bitcoin is imperative to the success of Bitcoin.  The more people accept Bitcoin as payments,  the more demand it gets; the more demand it gets,  the higher the price of Bitcoin.
For now, maybe we need a  ew spark that will arouse interest in Bitcoin from numerous companies and organizations.  Nothing seems to be working again and that is the reason we have remained stagnant for a while.

for now there is no positive condition on Bitcoin because you can see the fall of all coin prices on the market. in 2013 to 2018 the value of Bitcoin is getting higher and it has proven that this digital currency has been widely consumed in various countries. but the end of this 2018 the price of Bitcoin dropped because have of various issues.

I think Bitcoin is not a free decentralized platform, but is used by someone for financial manipulations. It is possible that the bosses of Wall Street have been using Bitcoin for a long time to extract profits through various stock exchange frauds, which are severely suppressed on ordinary exchanges.

What you're seeing is market psychology play out. At every support level there are long term hodlers who bought and held for years. Today's news that people who bought in early '17 for $1000 are selling here at $4.5k are afraid of losing their principal. These situations will continue to present themselves until there are enough buyers to reclaim the momentum of the market.

bitcoin is grwoing year by year, and i think right now is not a good time to say that word, because in the 2018 bitcoin value, and the popularity is drop. i dont know why and how but its dropping in this year