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Title: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: Jet Cash on November 12, 2018, 02:39:01 PM
I've started 16 threads that are on the first page of the Ivory Tower board. I'm not the most knowledgeable member here, and probably not even the most interesting, so what is tha matter with all you senior members? Theymos gave you a great place to enter into good informed discussions about any sensible topic, and it's spam free.

Unfortunately I don't have enough hair to help you scale the walls of the Ivory Tower, but if you can manage to enter the hallowed portal. I promise to try to keep Dame Gothel away from you. Come on guys, I'm too old to handle Rapunzel on my own, I need some help from you silver moused posters.


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: Coyster on November 12, 2018, 02:48:58 PM
I normally post on the serious discussion board when I'm not on a signature campaign,and I found out that in there discussions are really sparce and scarse,you hardly find a topic with more than 10 replies,and it's surprising considering thats the board you get to avoid newbies,spammers etc,that we all really complain about..

I can't really say anything about the ivory tower board,i am miles and miles away from ever posting on it


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: bluefirecorp_ on November 12, 2018, 02:55:56 PM
I've read a few of your "threads". They're mostly lunatic conspiracy theories. I'm amazed they're considered "ivory tower" quality tbh.

I think I posted there a few times before the requirements changed. I'm not sure though. Pretty sure my threads were purged though.


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on November 12, 2018, 02:56:54 PM
I did comment in some of those threads, but I just took a look at what's available and a lot of the threads deal with politics, and I detest politics so much so that I stopped watching television around 2001 and have never followed political discussion on the internet and barely keep up with what's going on in the world.  That's just me, but I am a hermit and enjoy my blissful ignorance of the assholes in power and what they're doing to destroy us all.

Other topics in Ivory Tower dealing with tech like "bricking" a phone (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046346.0) or the New Zealand digital strip search (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5043593.0) I read with interest but didn't feel qualified enough to comment on. 

Not sure why Ivory Tower and Serious Discussion haven't caught on like I thought they would, but there are some good threads there from time to time that I post in.  Maybe it's too political?  Maybe the amount of discussion being had is too thin?  Who knows, but I shall kiss your bald head in appreciation of your efforts to keep the Tower alive.


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: Onuohakk on November 12, 2018, 03:01:32 PM
I would love to be part of the discussion on that board and contribute to it but presently my restrictions limits me on the board I can only watch and not post.  It's really hurt me deep. But I know I will give my best to be there


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: mocacinno on November 12, 2018, 03:02:56 PM
I did comment in some of those threads, but I just took a look at what's available and a lot of the threads deal with politics, and I detest politics so much so that I stopped watching television around 2001 and have never followed political discussion on the internet and barely keep up with what's going on in the world.  That's just me, but I am a hermit and enjoy my blissful ignorance of the assholes in power and what they're doing to destroy us all.

Other topics in Ivory Tower dealing with tech like "bricking" a phone (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046346.0) or the New Zealand digital strip search (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5043593.0) I read with interest but didn't feel qualified enough to comment on. 

Not sure why Ivory Tower and Serious Discussion haven't caught on like I thought they would, but there are some good threads there from time to time that I post in.  Maybe it's too political?  Maybe the amount of discussion being had is too thin?  Who knows, but I shall kiss your bald head in appreciation of your efforts to keep the Tower alive.

Same here ^^
Most of the time i spend on bitcointalk, i'm trying to help people with technical problems, problems with development, meta questions, and i try to learn the technical background of new crypto based technologies.

The last time i looked at the ivory tower, it was completely filled with threads that didn't look interesting to me... It's just a matter of personal taste, but i couldn't bring myself to start reading those threads... It's perfectly possible somebody else might be interested, and i'm sure the people participating in those threads have a good time, and enjoy spam-free threads. However: i'd need a completely different kind of OP to start participating in the ivory tower.


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: Hivalley on November 12, 2018, 03:08:27 PM
I usually do a routine tour of the forum,and I actually do pop into the ivory tower/serious discussions board but really I do not fancy topics I come across in them and they just hardly ever appeal to me,of course I'm ineligible to post on the ivory tower board,but even if I was I doubt I'll patronize that section,its almost synonymous with the serious discussion board(there is hardly ever anything serious in it)


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: Jet Cash on November 12, 2018, 03:15:02 PM
One of the reasons that we need the Ivory Tower is to remove the blinkers and blindfolds from people who think that the current economic ills are just normal, and not partof an orchestrated plan. You don't have to be a member of Mensa to realise that the deliberate destruction of Greece, fractional reserve banking, the villification of Russia,  the exporting of wealth and industry to Asia, the attempts to overthrow Assad, and the many other things that are happening around the world, are part of a coordinated plan. Reports from the Bilderberg conferences and other meetings confirm this. Discussions in the Ivory Tower could help people to understand the changes that are happening at the moment.

But that is just my area of interest. The really sad thing is that other members are not raising the topics that are of interest to them.  I was going to start a crypto related discussion, but I was concerned that I was monopolising the board.


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: bluefirecorp_ on November 12, 2018, 03:17:28 PM
the villification of Russia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fancy_Bear

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cozy_Bear

https://i.imgur.com/p1VwdXB.png


It's not some grand conspiracy that doing naughty shit paints you as the bad guys.


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: Jet Cash on November 12, 2018, 03:29:54 PM
It's a good job that the US doesn't do any hacking or spying, and that they don't interfere inthe politics of any other countries. :)

Well of course it doesn't does it? Microsoft is a deep state globalist organisation, and is therefore above the US, which is manipulated by the unicorns like Obama and Clinton.

We won't even start on the Fed.


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: detector on November 12, 2018, 03:31:07 PM
I'm sure there will be some people who seek the quality board , it's just a matter of time.


Just like btc, on 2009  8)


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: HODL2090 on November 12, 2018, 03:38:08 PM
I feel the problem may be the diversity on those boards.
Serious discussion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=250.0) and Ivory tower (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=251.0) contains discussions that can range from, politics to family planning. And people hardly discuss cryptocurrency related topics, maybe cause there are sufficient boards for that.

If there were child boards made for more specific topics. People could interact the one they are most enthusiastic about.


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: bluefirecorp_ on November 12, 2018, 03:38:35 PM
It's a good job that the US doesn't do any hacking or spying, and that they don't interfere inthe politics of any other countries. :)

Well of course it doesn't does it? Microsoft is a deep state globalist organisation, and is therefore above the US, which is manipulated by the unicorns like Obama and Clinton.

We won't even start on the Fed.

Kremlin exploited 0day RCE in Exchange. I don't think it was a known vulnerability to even the NSA.

but of course the US engages in cyber warfare.

CoughStuxnetcough


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: jackg on November 12, 2018, 04:09:06 PM
I’m never sure whether to make threads in the ivory tower/serious discussion boards or not. The topic doesn’t seem like it’d interest people too much. The topics i’ve Started there are more of a science-economic stand points on certain things, not exactly bitcoin related at all (at least my last one wasn’t) - I liked that thread.

Serious discussion is also quite often a place that’s good for Sri’s cussing altcoins without the broken clock bounty spammers that are trying to do whatever they can to earn their one merit or bump a certain giveaway thread...


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: Jet Cash on November 12, 2018, 04:23:27 PM
4 of the first five threads were started by me, -

One cent crypto coins - I'm interested in starting a small speculation club for fun, and wanted to try some of the undervalued cryptos.

Will Russia create a new European Union? - OK that's a political one, and could be a cospiracy theory candidate.

The Hublot Bitcoin watch has sold out. - Bitcoin collectables and memorabilia are interesting to many members here.

Will liquidation chop bots kill amateur trading in Bitcoin? A possible discussion topic for day traders in Bitcoin

I think there is a reasonable mix there, and it is probably unfair to tar with with a tin foil hat for all my threads.


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: bluefirecorp_ on November 12, 2018, 05:00:28 PM
4 of the first five threads were started by me, -

One cent crypto coins - I'm interested in starting a small speculation club for fun, and wanted to try some of the undervalued cryptos.

Will Russia create a new European Union? - OK that's a political one, and could be a cospiracy theory candidate.

The Hublot Bitcoin watch has sold out. - Bitcoin collectables and memorabilia are interesting to many members here.

Will liquidation chop bots kill amateur trading in Bitcoin? A possible discussion topic for day traders in Bitcoin

I think there is a reasonable mix there, and it is probably unfair to tar with with a tin foil hat for all my threads.

Shitcoin discussion could have went in the altcoin section.

Russia / EU conspiracy could have went in politics and society.

Who cares about bitcoin collectibles? I'm fairly certain there's a section literally for the buy/sell/trade purpose of those things.

Liquidation bots could easily go under economics.

None of the topics really go into depth too much and gloss over surface levels of it all.

I'm sure you can find more detailed information on each of those subjects in other sections. Well, probably not the conspiracy EU bullshit...that's a bit new.


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: Jet Cash on November 12, 2018, 05:12:52 PM
The idea of the Ivory Tower was to take threads away from the spam infested boards, and to generate higher quality discussions. Suggesting that topics are posted on the bounty hunting boards is counter to the concept of the IT board.


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: bluefirecorp_ on November 12, 2018, 05:22:22 PM
The idea of the Ivory Tower was to take threads away from the spam infested boards, and to generate higher quality discussions. Suggesting that topics are posted on the bounty hunting boards is counter to the concept of the IT board.

Serious thread that was supposed to be high quality content, but no one really contributed
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5037134.0

Same with these political threads that ended up dead;
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5044112.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4669701.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5038628.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5032554.0

No one really has the expertise to discuss any of these topics at length it seems.


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: eddie13 on November 12, 2018, 05:24:17 PM
I forget to check those boards..
When I look through the boards that interest me I don't seem to remember those ones..

The idea of the Ivory Tower was to take threads away from the spam infested boards, and to generate higher quality discussions. Suggesting that topics are posted on the bounty hunting boards is counter to the concept of the IT board.

Serious thread that was supposed to be high quality content, but no one really contributed
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5037134.0

Same with these political threads that ended up dead;
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5044112.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4669701.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5038628.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5032554.0

No one really has the expertise to discuss any of these topics at length it seems.

Those are all trash tho  ::)
Ignore


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: Jet Cash on November 12, 2018, 05:42:03 PM
Bitcoin is a prepper's tool, and discussions about it, and the economic collapse are all over YouTube and other media platforms, but we don't seem to get any relevant discussions here, other than blinkered comments about it all being conspiracy theory.

Where are the discussions about the impending crypto split between security tokens and utility tokens? Has anybody mentioned that some large blocks of Bitcoin have been moved out of exchanges and into private wallets? and what about the billions of dollars worth of US stocks that the Swiss Central Bank sold last month? There are a load of topics like these that could be discussed without the spam intrusions.


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: suchmoon on November 12, 2018, 05:42:33 PM
No one really has the expertise to discuss any of these topics at length it seems.

No one wants to deal with your trolling is the more likely explanation. It's totally up to you to make your threads interesting and engaging. Most often you just post a link and expect something to happen.


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: Kopyleft on November 12, 2018, 05:44:37 PM
Although the topics on those boards do no get lots of interactions (views and comments) most of the interactions are relevant and to the point.
There's hardly any spam, as there's no motivation for that.
No signature and limiting lower ranks from posting.

It could definitely be more active.


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: Jet Cash on November 12, 2018, 05:57:24 PM
Sometimes I wonderwhy I bother. The Ivory Tower should be the most interesting board here, and it should have a wide range of decent topics containing discussion with some of the more able members.  It seems that I am the only one who wants that.

I've said my piece, so now I will leave it for you guys to use it or lose it.

I stopped reading the serious discussion board because of the low value posting by some of the juniors.


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: bluefirecorp_ on November 12, 2018, 05:59:22 PM
Bitcoin is a prepper's tool...

You know bitcoin is useless without a network? Without instantaneous global communication, the blockchain is utterly worthless.

I don't see how bitcoin is really a prepper's tool.

No one really has the expertise to discuss any of these topics at length it seems.

No one wants to deal with your trolling is the more likely explanation. It's totally up to you to make your threads interesting and engaging. Most often you just post a link and expect something to happen.

There's certain users I tend to troll (normally counter-trolling), but in serious discussion, I'm fairly serious. I do think there are specific topics in which this community has absolutely no actual knowledge.

Hydrogen seems to be a pretty big weakness, as well as "cyber security" (you'd think a bunch of "crypto nerds" would be interested in an APT... but I guess not).

The again, the "crypto nerds" here aren't cryptography nerds, but some pseudo-economic followers of cryptography.

Sometimes I wonderwhy I bother. The Ivory Tower should be the most interesting board here, and it should have a wide range of decent topics containing discussion with some of the more able members.  It seems that I am the only one who wants that.

I've said my piece, so now I will leave it for you guys to use it or lose it.

I stopped reading the serious discussion board because of the low value posting by some of the juniors.

You could engage yourself in some of that discussion or head over to off-topic :)


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: Vod on November 12, 2018, 08:51:22 PM
I've started 16 threads that are on the first page of the Ivory Tower board. I'm not the most knowledgeable member here, and probably not even the most interesting, so what is tha matter with all you senior members? Theymos gave you a great place to enter into good informed discussions about any sensible topic, and it's spam free.

This probably scares a lot of people away who are not actually here for bitcoin...

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- Signatures are not displayed.
 - Posts in Serious Discussion only activate a potential-activity period. They do not increase your post count.
 - Posts in Ivory Tower neither activate a potential-activity period nor increase your post count.

I do participate from time to time in the odd discussion there, but like others have said, a lot of it is not interesting to me.  Never got involved in politics.


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: OgNasty on November 12, 2018, 10:41:08 PM
I've started 16 threads that are on the first page of the Ivory Tower board.

Starting a lot of threads isn’t as helpful as you seem to think it is.


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: Jet Cash on November 13, 2018, 08:35:55 AM
I've started 16 threads that are on the first page of the Ivory Tower board.

Starting a lot of threads isn’t as helpful as you seem to think it is.

There are 40 threads on the first page of the index. The latest reply to the 40th thread is dated 30th July. If nobody started any new threads or replied, then the board would die.

The reason I started this thread is because I agree that too many of the threads have been started by me, and I hoped that I could encorage a few more members to support the board. It seems that most people want to create posts to complain about spammers, but not support the spam free boards.


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: Direwolve735 on November 13, 2018, 10:49:48 AM
I've started 16 threads that are on the first page of the Ivory Tower board.

Starting a lot of threads isn’t as helpful as you seem to think it is.

I think the point was not in quantity, but in the quality of these threads. Jet Cash created topics in which serious, interesting questions could be raised and discussed. The fact that the emphasis was placed on the fact that there were 16 of these discussions indicates that the quality wasn`t appreciated (all discussions were on various topics, but all were constructive and interesting). This suggests that the forum participants are interested mainly in those topics through which they can easily earn. Jet Cash tried through the creation of new threads to improve the quality of deliberations, but the result implicates that very few people are interested in this.


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: bigmaster23 on November 13, 2018, 02:52:50 PM
People all over here got involved in bitcointalk because they want to earn a small income on a signature campaign thus creating a fascinating thread would limit their daily post and it is against them to join on IV.

Most of the threads is interesting however people here only learn how to generate post not to create quality threads. :-(



Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: OgNasty on November 13, 2018, 07:47:40 PM
I've started 16 threads that are on the first page of the Ivory Tower board.

Starting a lot of threads isn’t as helpful as you seem to think it is.

There are 40 threads on the first page of the index. The latest reply to the 40th thread is dated 30th July. If nobody started any new threads or replied, then the board would die.

The reason I started this thread is because I agree that too many of the threads have been started by me, and I hoped that I could encorage a few more members to support the board. It seems that most people want to create posts to complain about spammers, but not support the spam free boards.

Perhaps that is a sign the section should be removed. Seems to exist just for you to try and earn merit.

My apologies if that seems rude, but when I click on a section and see 16 threads by the same person I don’t even bother reading them... Actually makes me think we need some sort of limit on how many threads a user can start per week.


Title: Re: I've started 16 threads.
Post by: jackg on November 13, 2018, 09:54:44 PM
Perhaps that is a sign the section should be removed. Seems to exist just for you to try and earn merit.

My apologies if that seems rude, but when I click on a section and see 16 threads by the same person I don’t even bother reading them... Actually makes me think we need some sort of limit on how many threads a user can start per week.

If a board is too sparse, don’t blame the ones postinng there, blame the ones who aren’t.

People usually (if not just here for the money) can post well and should consider posting in ivory tower a bit more. There are limited times where it seems more useful to post there than serious discussion but it still happens quite frequently when you want a iscussion with more senior members of the forum.

It’s the board we asked for, if people can’t endorse that, or are just here for the money, they should get up and leave before they are kicked out of here (when I rise to power over the world ;D). Serious discussion and ivory tower are great places to post stuff when you have no idea where to post it or when the relevant section it’s suited to gets filled with bounty spams.