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Title: Safe to run BitcoinCore 0.11.0?
Post by: GigaWave on November 12, 2018, 03:50:31 PM
In a bind and would like to run 0.11 temporarily. reason being the need to use WinXp. Could run up to 0.13(being EOL for xp support), if it makes a difference, seen notes claiming reports of crashing though for 0.12X+

Would like to make some transactions, and intended to use 'prune' mode.

Thank you!


Title: Re: Safe to run BitcoinCore 0.11.0?
Post by: gmaxwell on November 13, 2018, 08:54:24 PM
I wouldn't use it, it's known buggy.

Older versions shouldn't work any better on Windows XP.  I'm not aware of us removing anything needed to make XP work, XP is unsupported because it is buggy, insecure, and abandoned by microsoft. Bitcoin developers got tired of wasting their time on bug reports from XP users which were due to bugs in XP.



Title: Re: Safe to run BitcoinCore 0.11.0?
Post by: bob123 on November 14, 2018, 01:37:06 PM
Running XP is heavily discouraged.

It is full of bugs and vulnerabilities which aren't (and never will be) fixed.

Anyone which is capable of downloading kali linux would be able infect your system without you noticing it.
This could (and most probably will) lead to a loss of funds.

There are multiple bots online who are actively searching for XP hosts, simply to infect them and include them into their botnet.


The only way to run XP which isn't completely discouraged would be in a complete isolated offline environment. Anything else is just asking for getting hacked.


Title: Re: Safe to run BitcoinCore 0.11.0?
Post by: cellard on November 18, 2018, 04:23:02 PM
I wouldn't use it, it's known buggy.

Older versions shouldn't work any better on Windows XP.  I'm not aware of us removing anything needed to make XP work, XP is unsupported because it is buggy, insecure, and abandoned by microsoft. Bitcoin developers got tired of wasting their time on bug reports from XP users which were due to bugs in XP.




And Windows 7 is soon going to end getting further updates, by January 2020 specifically:

http://home.bt.com/images/02-Windows-10-life-cycle.jpg-136399538742502601

So this will force Windows users to move to Windows 10, and we all know Windows 10 is NSA ware on steroids. I think there are some unofficial patches out there to disable some of the spying stuff but I wouldn't count on it. Not that Windows users were ever safe, but 10 is way worse than 7. It keeps getting worse with each version. It will be interesting to see what happens by then. Will sanity finally check in and we'll see more people moving into Linux? we'll have to find out.


Title: Re: Safe to run BitcoinCore 0.11.0?
Post by: franky1 on December 14, 2018, 12:51:22 PM
I wouldn't use it, it's known buggy.

Older versions shouldn't work any better on Windows XP.  I'm not aware of us removing anything needed to make XP work, XP is unsupported because it is buggy, insecure, and abandoned by microsoft. Bitcoin developers got tired of wasting their time on bug reports from XP users which were due to bugs in XP.

as XP is not supported
can dev's also now come to the conclusion that bitcoins conservatism should now move forward to hardware post 2006(post xp era) and not keep harping on that delays in scaling is due to wanting to be compatible with such old hardware and old internet speeds previous to 2006

infact as vista is not supported by microsoft, thus going by gmaxwells lenience to drop support for operating systems not supported by microsoft
can dev's also now come to the conclusion that bitcoins conservatism should now move forward to hardware post 2009(post vista era) and not keep harping on that delays in scaling is due to wanting to be compatible with such old hardware and old internet speeds previous to 2009

we really need to get moving passed the pre millenium mindset of
kodak: "digital media wont scale because floppy disks are 1.44mb"

and move passed the propaganda of 4mb base block = servers
because a 256gb storage media is the size of a thumbnail

and we need to move passed the propaganda of terrabytes of data by midnight.
a 4tb hard drive only costs a single person one weeks groceries
at 4mb block FULL UTILITY (when conservatism finally relinquishes and removes the witness scale factor to allow full legacy utility)
4mb blocks=UPTO 208gb a year = upto 20 years to fill a 4tb hard drive

as for internet speeds.
even things like facetime(both up/down load) want 1.2mbps so lets not be playing pre millenial games of dialup.
even africa, russia, and korea have good internet
we are in the fibre era not the dialup era

its time to put the conservative excuses aside when doesnt fit the narrative of 'blockchains cant scale and bank-esq factory vaults(co-signed non blockchain, non audited payments of non byzantine generals nodes) are told to be the future. especially when the network offering such niche service is not even a network dedicated only as a bitcoin sole only use feature. but designed as a neutral network for multiple coins meaning less people will want to use bitcoin if other networks offer something better.

if you care for the bitcoin network more than the commercial service offering that will become LN factories watchdogging users channels. then atleast start innovating bitcoins onchain scaling. beyond 7tx/s. and do it BEFORE introducing more bloating smart contract features.

in short atleast get rid of the witness scale factor so that the 4mb is fully utilisable by both segwit and legacy transactions.
after all how many pools and users are using older nodes these days. even this topic is proving that versions 0.11 are outdated and buggy