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I have been wondering a while about how some ICOs treat their bounty hunters, imagine an ICO projects reduced bounty reward after the bounty program has already ended, sometimes 10X less than the agreed reward. I think if the hunters should have one voice, as in if all bounty hunters are united, they can also stand against the mistreatment from ICO projects. Or what do you guys think?

This may not totally end the mistreatment bounty hunters are receiving from ICO projects but I am sure it will Get 80 - 90% reduction of the Mistreatment. But I wonder the possibility of them coming together anyway.

I wish bounty hunters can actually agreed together,but,it is a dream that can never come true.one of the reason why we were been treated like that is because,those runing the ICO know that even if they reduce the rewards,some people will still do it,we have too many despirate hunters here that are ready to settle for anything.I just hope we can wake up.

Coming together of bounty hunters in a single voice is quite difficult
Most bounty hunter thinks only about work and get paid so they just spend time promoting any ico they see without thorough knowledge of the project

Bounty hunters are greedy, always stealing people information to submit a new application
Just forget the idea, not sure it can work

You must point out what the "Mistreatment" are you talking about! Is this about the late payments or what? As we know ICO's nowadays are struggling hard to even reach the softcap because of this bearish market sentiment. We know that "Bounty Workers" in this particular year is gamble to be paid or not? its our own action and we are all responsible with this, whatever the result is maybe its "GOOD or BAD".

I'd say that's what you get for wanting to work for projects that pay you with their own tokens.

If I provide a service for someone, I'd want to be paid with something I can immediately exchange for fiat, be it Bitcoin or whatever exchangeable altcoin.
People working for worthless tokens bring failure onto themselves, that's not how you run a successful business.

With new clients, I demand payment upfront, there's literally no way that I get scammed.
If the client is unhappy with my work, I'd just resolve it (not that that's ever happened).

Why should bounty hunters work differently? Why do you accept to get paid in worthless tokens?
Why do you work for projects that can't even afford to pay for promotion?

How are you gonna "stand against mistreatment"? Even if there would be thousands of us, bounty hunters, united together we would hardly ever change something, because there is no legal basis for this. Just look at all those scam ICOs which are deceiving thousands of people and run away with their crypto...And you are speaking about BOUNTY)) Free tokens for your spent time...There is no regulation in this sphere yet and that's the main problem of crypto world.

I agree with you. The bounty in the end is like an agreement and as we hunter respect the parameters (decided by them), they too must do it

I know it sucks but they're not really much you can do. Only join good projects you feel that are legit.Don't just join every bounty campaign out there just because you can

Experience is a treasure. The more experience you get the more professional you work. Most hunters jump into projects not knowing what it really offer until they are giving worthless rewards. I have suffered same too. But with experience, I am getting more professional.  ;)

Payments depend on the team of the project, and bounty hunters will not be able to do anything about them. Even the team of the project may refuse to pay the bounty hunter if they wish. We need projects that accept escrow, then pay for the bounty hunter will be guaranteed

I feel the empathy on this post but the thing against the aspiration of this post is that digital currency is not regulated and in fact, it was made to be independent, decentralized and standing on its own. We just have to be careful, join bounty managed by reputable managers that will be sincere and or opt out if contract arrangement is not cool with developers.

That is the general problem about bounties. They are reducing the amount always. I think that will be good if we can make something like that. It seems little bit difficult but if we can create big united  community which support that issue that can be good. But on the other hand icos know that they can do everything. They can even cancel bounty program after the end date. We can not make something to these guys but maybe they can afraid from the big united community. Because we can do some advertisement but also we can spread fud about these icos .

Hmm. I think you're talking about Yumerium bounty campaign. As I can see Yumerium bounty reward decreased because there was a coin burning of unsold YUM token because there were big investors couldn't pass YUMERIUM KYC. LOL. It's all Yumerium team cay give us. LOL. Although there are so many bounty hunters are fighting against this reducing but seem like it's useless.

What will change?? After all, you will learn about cheating only after the bounty campaign is over and you can not change anything. Of course, you can initially transfer the bounty campaign Fund created by the bounty community. But then the fraud on the part of the Fund will flourish.

How do you plan to unite everyone when they are all busy trying to complete their task for the week?

I'm not up to it though. I benefit from the ICO campaigns although the money isn't enough, I think I will survive when finally the price go up. The bullrun had made a lot of bounty hunters very rich so there is no point in doing a revolt here. If it weren't for those ICO team, there will no nothing to work on for the crypto.

Generally that responsibility falls to bounty managers but they're often very lax in that, I think perhaps because they know they're getting paid either way and that there's so many bounty hunters that it won't hurt their future earnings. If we as bounty hunters started not to go to the bounties of such managers then it would force them to up their game and ensure that they have our interests in mind as well as their own.

That is not going to change anything, to begin with how do you plan to organize people that are all over the world? How do you plan that everyone follows the same leadership? And even more importantly how are you going to enforce your demands? Because most of the time you are going to find that you were scammed when the ico ends and the developers just disappear, how are you going to get your tokens when there is no one to distribute them?

Yeah that's the thing. For most of these bounty task, you don't even need to have any sort of expertise, which in turn attracts people who have very little skills.
It's in everyone's best interest to just not join any of these projects, basically for a promise that you'll get paid.

If you can find projects that are willing to just pay you for your work, I'd recommend joining those instead.

Those projects that reduce the reward of participants at the end of the campaign are understandable and ready for the fact that there will be dissatisfaction and a lot of bad words addressed to them, so they do not care about this and their reputation. Honestly, I don’t know how to influence the fraudsters and what we can do for our part to bring them to the responsibility.

You just need to choose the manager that you have to trust, though yes, everyone has a right to receive their reward correctly. But as long as they will put that rule which they have the right to change everything during the campaign, you can't do anything with that.
You can unite, there's no problem with that because that's all your rights to be treated correctly.

There is strength in unity if we can come together and form a strong force, we can do great things if we come together. I have participated in five campaigns that acted like this, it is very bad and it is an act of betrayal. Bounty hunters are part of the ICO system and we are doing a great job for them, we need to be treated with respect.

You have a good point on putting every bounty hunters to make one voice but it is easy to say yet hard to do. I think we need to reach out with all the Bounty Managers and give our views, they are the one who can discuss your side with the project team. That way we can really know what are the possibilities so we can meet halfway with the project team. I think this is a win-win move for all of us.

It's great idea for uniting, some kind of trade-labor union, but online. Why we tolerate such an attitude from semi-scamming
like Cryptopolice (who changing rules after several months of bounty? without any early announcements in the thread), MoneyToken - who not paying bounty for half a year and so on !

I think that this simply makes no sense, because at the moment the ICO does not pay the promised amount due to the fact that they can not collect a normal amount of funds for their security and therefore also cut the amount of the reward for bounty hunters. The fight against fraudulent projects, it is worth to unite.

I think it's a good idea to unite all bounty hunters, but it won't solve all the problems. I agree that, because of the terms of the bounty, which is the ability to change the rules during the bounty campaign, we can't affect that. Here is a recent case of bounty Yumerium. They just burned the coins before the bounty was paid to the participants,and they cut the pool 25 times, because they could change the rules.

Coming together is not possible. I mean how can that be done?
For me that can be done only with legislation. If there was a law guiding ico etc, then if anything goes wrong, the long hand of the law will catch up with the culprit.

This sounds good as it is and it's going to go along way in restoring the dignity of bounty hunters but seems difficult for all bounty hunters to get united, bounty hunters being treated indiscriminately has been on the rise, I have a fresh experience with Yumerium where bounty rewards is being cut 30*. All these unethical practices need to stop

Unfortunately, nobody cares about this problem except bounty hunters. And I think that this they are unlikely to be able to achieve something. Although in this case all individually. I took part in a project where the team gave their share in the distribution of bounty hunter. This happened because due to the large number of participants in the end all received very few tokens.

Yes, lately it is very common that a bounty campaign reduces rewards and bounty hunters receive very little. We really need to fight this, but it is very difficult.

The general unification participants in the bounty is an attractive idea for achieving fair actions from the teams that conducted the ICO.In this situation, we must immediately say that there are projects that are really scammers and there are projects that just shy away from paying participants bounty.With scammers definitely nothing can be done.They'll just collect the money and disappear.As for those projects that evade payments to the participants of the bounty, then they really can be influenced.If you do not even get to pick up your honestly earned tokens, it is possible to spoil the final reputation of the project.This naturally cannot be done alone.That's why we need to unite.Just recently, many projects are beginning to really get impudent and either not pay tokens at all, or the bounty pool is cut many times.This situation really makes you nervous.

You understand that nothing of what you say simply will not happen, because in most cases people are just not ready to go for it, but we are very much and very often we are deceived, but even a team like AmaziX that is very famous comes across on scammers.

At the moment, there are no tools for solving problems related to ico fraud towards participants in bounty programs. The maximum that can now be done is to fight informatively, placing the maximum information about deception by ico. Such a step can do its job, since negative information about deception can damage investors of this ico and they can lose all the money invested. I am very interested to know, and do admins of ico understand that they are not only harming bounty participants with these actions? I think I understand, but apparently the majority of them do not care, both for the participants of the bounty and for the investors. Perhaps in the future something will change in this direction, but now everything remains as it is.

It is impossible to stop that from happening to you unless you decide to stop being a bounty hunter, there are many ways in which you can earn money in this market the only thing that you need to have is a little bit of money and knowledge to try those other forms of making money, as an example trading can be a great way to make money and if you are skilled at it the profits you can get are going to be many times bigger than what you can get as a bounty hunter.

I don't think if bounty hunters have one voice,  it will reduce the mistreatment.  Bounty hunters are mostly paid at the end of ICO's hence if the ICO does not go well,  the tokens given to bounty hunters will reduce.  If bounty hunters have a problem there is no one who they can report to.

The reality is that projects that reduce rewards do not care about their reputation.
They organize ico only for quick money, they don’t care about project implementation. Such projects disappear within six months.
Here you need not a community, but a regulator or platform that acts as an intermediary and guarantor between the hunters and the ico.

If it is done then it would definitely end their mistreatment, but it would be difficult to unite them, as bounty hunters are from all over the world, so uniting them will be very difficult and may not be possible.

Well i agree with you 100% but how are you gonna implement something like that. I mean what should be done to unite the bounty hunters and how can they all follow some rules and regulations and how to keep them all on the same board ? And how are the ICOs gonna be controlled by the unity of bounty hunters ?

I feel the same way how the ICO project treats bounty hunters as if the bounty hunter is nothing. Many cases like this occur. There are those who divide the bounty allocation by 30% every 3 months and there are also those who often cut the allocation of 50%. I am very devoted if the bounty hunters unite for this problem. So that in the future we don't apply the kind that happened before.