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Title: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: Qcrypto on November 15, 2018, 01:41:04 AM
The market works in a funny way. Paid ratings and reviews are widely accepted and do not hurt anyone but the naive investors. They are often written by the projects themselves to make them look good. After all, that is the purpose of marketing and promotion.

What would happen if you were to bring out the truth and say it like it is? How dangerous is it?
It the truth befits investors and destroys the projects, would that cause a balance?


This example of an ICO report shows the truthful facts which go beyond official documentation.

https://crypto-potential.com/report/1 (https://crypto-potential.com/report/1)


How would you feel about this as an Investor and as an ICO that was just evaluated?


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: asriloni on November 15, 2018, 01:50:54 AM

The market works in a funny way. Paid ratings and reviews are widely accepted and do not hurt anyone but the naive investors. There are often written by the projects themselves to make them look good. After all, that is the purpose of marketing and promotion.

What would happen if you were to bring out the truth and say it like it is? How dangerous is it?
It the truth befits investors and destroys the projects, would that cause a balance?


This example of an ICO report shows the truthful facts which go beyond official documentation.

https://crypto-potential.com/report/1 (https://crypto-potential.com/report/1)


How would you feel about this and an Investor and as an ICO that was just evaluated?
that's not something new for me, I have seen so many times the ico that create their own reviews. There was a case that even worst than it just like when you are seeing the ico that claimed has already raised million dollars but they doesn't wanna show the evidence just like the smartcontract address or bank account if this project received funds from the private investors.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: bayu7adi on November 15, 2018, 02:06:14 AM
if all truth is upheld, then the world of cryptocurrency leaves only quality people in the seriousness of building a cryptocurrency
there will be no scammer who dares to oppose the strength of the cryptocurrency community
but all that is very difficult to create, because we know, that money can cause loss of trust between each other


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: Qcrypto on November 15, 2018, 02:13:26 AM
if all truth is upheld, then the world of cryptocurrency leaves only quality people in the seriousness of building a cryptocurrency
there will be no scammer who dares to oppose the strength of the cryptocurrency community
but all that is very difficult to create, because we know, that money can cause loss of trust between each other

Ain't that the truth.

Smart money exists because of the dumb money.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: marshalljp on November 15, 2018, 02:23:25 AM
The market works in a funny way. Paid ratings and reviews are widely accepted and do not hurt anyone but the naive investors. They are often written by the projects themselves to make them look good. After all, that is the purpose of marketing and promotion.

What would happen if you were to bring out the truth and say it like it is? How dangerous is it?
It the truth befits investors and destroys the projects, would that cause a balance?


This example of an ICO report shows the truthful facts which go beyond official documentation.

https://crypto-potential.com/report/1 (https://crypto-potential.com/report/1)


How would you feel about this as an Investor and as an ICO that was just evaluated?

I for one say the truth will set you free. Transparency is best though there could be business reasons as to why one would limit the data flow. So... perhaps dangerous for the project but best over all for the users.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: Zixy on November 15, 2018, 12:19:12 PM
The market works in a funny way. Paid ratings and reviews are widely accepted and do not hurt anyone but the naive investors. They are often written by the projects themselves to make them look good. After all, that is the purpose of marketing and promotion.

What would happen if you were to bring out the truth and say it like it is? How dangerous is it?
It the truth befits investors and destroys the projects, would that cause a balance?


This example of an ICO report shows the truthful facts which go beyond official documentation.

https://crypto-potential.com/report/1 (https://crypto-potential.com/report/1)


How would you feel about this as an Investor and as an ICO that was just evaluated?

It is dangerous if you're writing a truth about a big company. You can destroy their business and they won't be happy about it.

That report is hardcore. I wouldn't mind having this type of information at my disposal. There are so many scams going on in the crypto right now, this might be a breath of fresh air.
As an investor I would like to know the sources which the information came from (links, screenshots, audio), something to prove the credibility of information.
If this was my ICO being evaluated, if I'm not a scam, there is nothing for me to fear and I would take those facts and points on which to improve my ICO.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: Tarion on November 15, 2018, 12:43:28 PM
I do not know how dangerous it is, but everybody understands, that you can buy ratings on the rating websites, you can buy bounty hunters, you can buy yourself a community and even more. Just be more selective and try to avoid scammers.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: SaoAccel on November 15, 2018, 12:54:51 PM
Well everything has it's price even trust ratings from ICO listing sites which can easily bought if you have the cash that suffice the amount they want. This scenario is already common here in the crypto currency market, already seen many ICOs that has many good ratings but still fail. This is why I would rather do my own research rather than trusting them.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: IVEXO on November 15, 2018, 02:35:15 PM
Well
Inthe world today nothing is free and for every existing Website ; their aim is to make money
Which has led to receiving payment for listing , even exchanges get paid for listing
Everything is paid for from creation of token to website creation whitepaper publishing

Just be smart and strong
Know when to walk in and when to walk out of every trade


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: patz22 on November 16, 2018, 01:56:04 AM
That's how it works bud not just in this industry you can also see this in any kind of business. There are flaws in any project but you have to look on the brighter side on how it will benefit us(investors) but of course if the project is just a show without having the exact product it should not be tolerated and we should bring the truth so that no one will lose their money.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: Qcrypto on November 17, 2018, 03:23:24 PM
Well everything has it's price even trust ratings from ICO listing sites which can easily bought if you have the cash that suffice the amount they want. This scenario is already common here in the crypto currency market, already seen many ICOs that has many good ratings but still fail. This is why I would rather do my own research rather than trusting them.

It is sad that the scenario is common and there are people that accept this as normal. But as always, it's the naive investors who don't know the nature of these projects that always get the shorter end of the stick


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: qazgroup on November 17, 2018, 06:53:40 PM
It is always good to see and read reviews and information from as many prospects and angles as possible, regarding each project that you are looking to invest, for example if we find a very positive and exciting article about a project we should also look for critical reviews or we can say if we are shown only the pros we should do our research and know about the cons of that project as well to be clear whether to invest or not.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: shark69 on November 17, 2018, 07:07:43 PM
Because those who give ratings do not fully understand whether they really can to guarantee ICO success, they only carry out their services as promotional tools.
People will always believe that. The successful ICO mechanism is not seen by how much the project is included in the ICO rating site, but how they are able to manage their integrity for their supporters.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: 10c on November 17, 2018, 07:15:42 PM
I would support such a website that would make real reviews for new projects and was incorruptible. Maybe even would I like to be in a team of people who would rate ICO. If you will need people in your team than PM to me)


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: xuv500 on November 17, 2018, 07:23:53 PM
Regarding what information you are looking for? I feel cryptocurrency is the best invention of human and I guess this is e new world made by crypto for block chain. If you plan and invest then you can see a lot of money in a quick time.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: Galley on November 17, 2018, 07:41:43 PM
We always and everywhere pay for everything. Everything is sold and bought. If desired, any ICO company can order ratings. In this, we have been convinced more than once. Therefore, it is absolutely not worthwhile to rely on them when choosing an ICO for investment. Focus on your research and experience, it will be much more reliable.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: MonkeySlapFest on November 17, 2018, 10:15:08 PM
Never ever write the truth it will bite you in the ass quicker than you can pull your pants up after your mum catches you mid yank!

Bad times


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: carrigan on November 17, 2018, 10:18:24 PM
So sad, but I think that what you said is already true. This time, tends to be dangerous to enter in such ICO with only paying attention on the ratings. Not all rating websites make their rating based on the analysis. The best way to avoid this danger is analyzing them by our own research. It will be better. Analyze deeply their project, team, social media, and other elements to avoid such scam projects.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: Qcrypto on November 17, 2018, 11:13:29 PM
I would support such a website that would make real reviews for new projects and was incorruptible. Maybe even would I like to be in a team of people who would rate ICO. If you will need people in your team than PM to me)

Thanks for the support. I've just PM'd you.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: mihtju on November 17, 2018, 11:14:30 PM
It has long been no news that developers pay money for a good assessment of their ICO. There are a huge number of such examples. It seems to me that nobody pays attention to the ICO rating for a long time.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: Rengga Jati on November 17, 2018, 11:20:59 PM
It is quite difficult to find a website that review an ICO with the truthful facts. I think investors will be interested to join if there is a potential profits in the ICO project. So, don't worry to tell the truth, but you also need to provide a potential and quality ICO for the main reason to make investors joining.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: Ouyunk on November 17, 2018, 11:28:18 PM
this is not new news for me, now it is very often the ICO project, in order to attract interested people to be interested in their ICO projects. it is a very fraudulent marketing method in my opinion, because they use something that can ultimately harm others.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: Denton on November 17, 2018, 11:47:48 PM
It is not always necessary to tell the truth about the project. Some information is best left secret. But this does not always mean that the project is fraudulent. The project team can resort to various measures, like of buy rating etc, for the good of the project.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: Qcrypto on November 18, 2018, 10:54:42 AM
It is not always necessary to tell the truth about the project. Some information is best left secret. But this does not always mean that the project is fraudulent. The project team can resort to various measures, like of buy rating etc, for the good of the project.


Projects can keep the secret and not paint the whole picture about themselves. This is expected.

But what about review websites who evaluate projects, just like I added the link in the opening post? Shows the other side of the project that most people don't see and it's hardcore truth.





Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: btcluisdiki on November 18, 2018, 12:07:06 PM
I would have to agree with OP wherein ICO should not fake what is the truth and don't let people being hooked on an ICO which is actually not performing well just to get the attention of the investors to put on their investment. In my views, it would be better to make your own research  in searching for an ICO in which you should not rely particularly on that ICO  that are making false information.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: rjp55 on November 18, 2018, 12:12:56 PM
It is quite difficult to find a website that review an ICO with the truthful facts. I think investors will be interested to join if there is a potential profits in the ICO project. So, don't worry to tell the truth, but you also need to provide a potential and quality ICO for the main reason to make investors joining.

As far as i know, internet world is a free world, so anybody can tell the truths about the projects they are reviewing but most of them paid reviewers so we won't see many reviews like that because they are earning their money from there.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: Deallove9 on November 18, 2018, 12:29:38 PM
The truth will surely prevail one day , I also wonder how sweet it was when bounty hunters promote project that is yet to show it true colour or what it real has to offer like a real gem, and talk like the project is just like heaven that need not to be told but such project also end up scamming the bounty Hunter themselves, and with the rate in which this happen many feel non concern and the technology is becoming something else and not a decentralized technology as we preach anymore.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: yescrypto on November 18, 2018, 01:33:12 PM
Telling the truth might be dangerous sometimes but trust me it only way to make things right. But the issue here in crypto is that most projects never talked about the truth which latter turns out to be bad and i don't blame them it because people are also not ready for that, the real one won't look promising to us we just need the truth in crypto.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: kamar25 on November 18, 2018, 02:09:24 PM
indeed, not all ICO websites review correctly, so if we look at the project, it is better not to finish with the ICO website review. dig deeper information with your own method which if you think is right and cannot doubt its success


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: Qcrypto on November 18, 2018, 08:06:14 PM
indeed, not all ICO websites review correctly, so if we look at the project, it is better not to finish with the ICO website review. dig deeper information with your own method which if you think is right and cannot doubt its success

What if there was already someone who can help you dig deeper?


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: kalashnikovski on November 18, 2018, 11:06:46 PM
People don't like to hear the truth, but they won't avenge it. It all depends on who it is aimed at. If it is ordinary people - not scary.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: Transformbitz on November 18, 2018, 11:22:17 PM
Most cryptos are not serious on their whitepaper they just relying on the price of bitcoin and other cryptos which will determine on how many users they have. I think they should offer blockchain services or scientists to come up on their existing projects and to show to the world how capable their coins will work.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: temilade200 on November 18, 2018, 11:34:02 PM
The market works in a funny way. Paid ratings and reviews are widely accepted and do not hurt anyone but the naive investors. They are often written by the projects themselves to make them look good. After all, that is the purpose of marketing and promotion.

What would happen if you were to bring out the truth and say it like it is? How dangerous is it?
It the truth befits investors and destroys the projects, would that cause a balance?


This example of an ICO report shows the truthful facts which go beyond official documentation.

https://crypto-potential.com/report/1 (https://crypto-potential.com/report/1)


How would you feel about this as an Investor and as an ICO that was just evaluated?

If something is not going to work or that it is not what it is said to be, standing one's ground to debunk such lie and say the truth is never a bad thing. In fact, one is offering more help than harm. I would even say that no harm has been done, because in a way you are saving a life that perhaps could have been in jeopardy. You might not know the impact and usefulness of what you have done, until you find yourself in such situation.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: missyqt29 on November 18, 2018, 11:36:55 PM
The market works in a funny way. Paid ratings and reviews are widely accepted and do not hurt anyone but the naive investors. They are often written by the projects themselves to make them look good. After all, that is the purpose of marketing and promotion.

What would happen if you were to bring out the truth and say it like it is? How dangerous is it?
It the truth befits investors and destroys the projects, would that cause a balance?


This example of an ICO report shows the truthful facts which go beyond official documentation.

https://crypto-potential.com/report/1 (https://crypto-potential.com/report/1)


How would you feel about this as an Investor and as an ICO that was just evaluated?

Well I guess that is true, but when they are paying the ICO benchmarks, so many investors and bounty hunters do really invest in their money, effort, and time. As a result, the project may succeed and reach their hardcap. Their fund somehow makes them a good project and extend their capability to implement. As you know, money can do anything.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: Bonheur on November 18, 2018, 11:49:11 PM
Paid reviews, hiding truth is not uncommon but it happens everywhere.There are a lot of situations that people does not give you the full truth.When you are buying a car, when you are buying a house, investing in shares.One way or other there is the truth about it.You just have to keep looking till you are sure.They can pay for good reviews but there is someone who tells the truth.Just like amazon user reviews.That guy who is angry is the one you should read.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: Bitfling on November 19, 2018, 01:01:53 AM
If the developers team telling the truth, they afraid people will not join in their ICOs. Most ICOs investor are speculator and not a long term holder. Maybe if the team telling the truth, investor will not attracting to their project anymore because the project need time


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: ricatop on November 19, 2018, 01:06:19 AM
I think if we knew about projects, it would be great because we could make the right decisions.


Title: Re: How dangerous is it to write the truth?
Post by: boller on November 19, 2018, 03:44:04 AM
If the developers team telling the truth, they afraid people will not join in their ICOs. Most ICOs investor are speculator and not a long term holder. Maybe if the team telling the truth, investor will not attracting to their project anymore because the project need time
It is indeed true is, it is referred to as tricks in marketing to attract investors come in and support them. so when there are a number of aspects which was deliberately covered up or manipulated then this thing is natural. an annoying is if this wastage and finally culminate in a scam. but when all the ICO really want to open in General will be able to give birth to many ICO quality and without the correct manipulation because the best will survive.