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What the F! is happening on the market cap? Its falls down and what is the reason? Any link of news If why this market cap falls down? In my opinion some one who hold big supply of BTC dumped. But anyone here can tell me what is the really reason?

I’m not sure the market cap is falling down
Yes prices of crypto currency’s are down at a significant rate but the volume increased
More sales and more purchases
I don’t think there is a specific reason at all, whales are interested to buy cheap so panic hands were forced

I’m not sure about the reason
But basically it’s happened because of more supply and short demand, so dumpers just pick up the cheapest offer
We can just focus of the basics of trading and learn from all losses

I had your same question and someone replied to me that it's the market. We'll see.

I think this is due to market manipulation. Someone just zadampil price. What for ? Do not know yet. Perhaps in the future there will be some information. They say the fall will last.

I think whales do it. To disrupt the market, panikists sell, and then whales buy at a lower price. I will not sell.

There's hashrate war.

Bitcoin Cash (BCH/USD) Price Analysis: Bitmain Ready To “Sacrifice” Bitcoin Hash for Bitcoin Cash ABC Survival (https://ethereumworldnews.com/bitcoin-cash-bch-usd-price-analysis-bitmain-bitcoin-hash-bitcoin-cash-abc-survival/)

Due to war of bigger investors we were caught in the middle, all my portfolio decreased around %25 from last week. Hopefully we'll recover from these levels.

not too sure, but i think there's a lot of market manipulation in the crypto world. also, because liquidity is scarce, price changes are very rapid and large.

No concrete reasons why the market suddenly experience a sharp drop. If there's no certain reason, this might point out to the bitcoin whalea that somehow can manipulate the prices of bitcoin. Now, when bitcoin falls, and.so with the other altcoins. Take this opportunity to buy your cryptocurrency coins while they are low in prices.

If this happens very disappointing Bitmain switches course to BCH fork, so the price of Bitcoin falls very deep, but we are sure that without Bitmain the continuity of Bitcoin prices will increase rapidly for years to come.

i don't really know how market cap going down of price.
maybe in out there is have any issue that make it possible to drop down price.
we all need to know and clarification of this probblem.

Well, i thought that it was the rock bottom and that the price can't fall any further but it looks as if there are certain levels to rock bottom that we were unaware of. Many were hoping this december to be another bull run but it has gone the other side so far.

It is the manipulation of the market. Reason is Binance met some issues last days and Bitcoin Cash hardfork. Bitcoin Cash hardfork leads to the hashrate war between big miners and it make the market goes down.

The price always goes either up or down. Therefore, the mind does not worry. I think in a week will return to the level of 6300-6500

I think this is a natural thing considering that since 2017 the price of cryptocurrency has continued to increase in a short period of time so don't panic because later there will be a time when the cryptocurrency price will be back to increase again even past the ATH

im not sure about this, but i hear hacker attack in the market china and stolen bitcoin, its make for investor scary to invest them money in the crypto, hacker is the threat for investor, invest in crypto not have gurantee your money will safe

There a lot of versions why that is happening. My thougths about this fall: this dump was planned by seals, and price will recovers recently and probably more. I know that it sounds very optimistic but it's only my vision of situation.

I think like that too, and the market conditions will recover as soon as possible, we wait until a few weeks. There is no big news that is bad for bitcoin in my opinion, this is really a mischievous whale that forces people to panic

I guess I am so lucky that I sold my BTC and turned it to USDT while Bitcoin is still at 6500usd. I wish some prediction will happened. I want to see Bitcoin at 3k.
Everybody calm down and don't be so selfish. This is our second chance to ride BTC.

There is the reduction of 25 to 30 Billion Dollar in the market cap due to a lot of selling events. May be it was a big group of traders who performed multiple heavy transactions. I don't think so that a single person would be able to perform such massive bleeding event in the crypto field.

And you have seen it happened right?

As a result, the market crashed and bitcoin's price fell, they knew it that it would happen. They just have to let CSW feel bad for going against them. This is an intense political crypto war for the both sides and the people are just watching who's going to take the lead.

what I know before the hardfork on many BCH coins is selling BTC to buy BCH because there are two free coins that will be given to BCH holders, and that greatly affects prices in all markets.

I think the case on the fraudster. Now many ICO projects have ended. And this is a problem. Perhaps scam projects have begun to withdraw money. Awful market situation. And if not then soon they will withdraw money.

speculation has sprung up, I have my own thoughts about this.
I think there are some investors who sell their assets to secure them from losses. large-scale asset sales occurred at this time.
and that triggers a dumper, but obviously there are parties who take advantage of this.
they are playing the market, but I am sure the price will not be below 5000 USD.

This is an interesting article but I'm not sure I can fully understand some points there. Can someone, please, answer the two following questions:

1. Why the price of Bitcoin should be going down if the mining difficulty is dropping due to declining hash rates?  Is it because it will be easier to mine coins and miners will be selling them right away instead of holding?

2. If Bitmain knows that the falling of BTC price is inevitable in response to declining hash rates, why are they risking so much? Yes, they own "more BCH than Satoshi Nakamoto" (over 1 million coins) as the article states, but can't they see that they can lose more from declining of BTC price then they could gain from all their BCH even if they sold it for over $1k/coin? (Keep in mind that Bitmain made $1.1 billion in profit during the first quarter of 2018).

I think many people are speculating that what is happening to the crypto market recently might be due to the latest Bitcoin cash fork, however there might be other serious reasons behind the market downtrend.

I think the main reason of this market dump is BitcoinCash hashwar. I'm already tired of these manipulations and market dumps, no one could have predicted such price movements, and a lot of people lost their money. Current bitcoin marketcap is lesser than 100 billion dollars and I still can't believe it happened .

bitcoin loses its original goal and now bitcoin is meeting its dead end, the one thing we can wait for is ETFs if ETFs approved bitcoin will bounce back again but if  ETFs rejected I think there will be a big dump more than this so we can only wait praying and be patient .

My Opinion is the crash is being caused by disagreements over a “hard fork” in Bitcoin Cash, the world’s fourth most valuable cryptocurrency, into Bitcoin ABC and Bitcoin SV, but I think current crash is just in short time and I'm pretty sure market will recover soon

IMHO, I do think it is a preparation.
A lot of bitcoin holders are expecting a pump this coming December and if a whale could see that then selling will be a good decision for now and then a buyback if it goes his way.

For me it is a good opportunity. It is near the range that I want to buy again.
Altcoins will be dragged into it. No doubt about that.

You are lucky but I guess you are a short term investor or trader that is why you need to keep analysing the market too often and need to save our funds to save the capital but for long term investors they still can hold and the current price fall is not huge and I don't think that the price will go for $3000 range.

that is what happens with fake numbers which are more like bubbles than real value. and market cap has been the biggest bubbliest number in cryptocurrency scene of all times. when a small price drop occurs the total market cap drops A LOT.
and it is not even a complicated math either. it is a very simple multiplication equiasion. there is about a couple of trillion coins in circulation so a small price drop multiplied by that loses a huge chunk of the total market cap. the same way a small rise increased it into a fake number.

according to the information I heard was because of the bitcoin cash hard fork. there are two camps that are having a hash war. so we only need to wait until the impact of the HF bitcoin cash disappears maybe the market will recover

I think there is a lack of hashes going on because of the hardforking event that happened on november 15 about two new coins for the bitcoin cash. Bitcoin cash well, is forked in the bitcoin original. That I think it is the reason why.

This was evident after such a significant increase, and whales are not to blame. If they wanted, they could throw it all off right away, now all investors are affected by all the prices themselves and of course the creation of new forks.

I believe that the market is dominated by the manipulation of major players. If it were a real fall, it would go on every day, and not in stages as we see it now. If we consider the recent fall, it is strange why it happened on the day of the hardfork Bitcoin Cash. Everything that we are trying to calculate is reduced to nothing. That is, everything is done the opposite of expectations. In addition, it is possible that a space is now being prepared for the entry of even more capital, for this it is necessary to lower the market in order to purchase at the best price.

Most people say like that, I have already made purchases in the past few months now the price has dropped again my money has run out there is nothing to buy to see the market like this keep making worries

This war is really already too prolonged. 2018 being the dark year. All the prices are falling  down very far from ath last year and a lot of ico that failed. This makes me very difficult because I am not a pro trader who can any time earn money. And finally the fight they make bch destroyed. Get well soon crypto.

I also do not know why the market is so. There are so many reasons for us to really claim which of them. But it really made me nervous.

In my case of this is a last days downing cryptocurrency maket. Last year also downed all cryptocurrencies this period and after end of year market was up. This year also same condition.

Just a downturn in the market, everything has its time. The time will come Bude period of growth, and so cyclically repeated over and over again. It always happens in all economic contracts.
If you panic like this, then you should not engage in investments. It is better to entrust your capital to specialists.

Because of BCH's hard forking: wars between BCHABC and BCHSV. They switched the calculation of BTC to mine their respective coins. They sell BTC to support encryption wars. Two encrypted giants. At present, encryption is manipulated. This is not alarmist talk. Let's see who the winner will be. Finally wait for the market to go up.

maybe the hardfork bch could be an indication of the attachment due to a decline two days ago, yes bitcoin fell to 5k
I was shocked, I think the opportunity to grow this year is getting more biased and will not immediately happen even some new fuds are emerging to drop bitcoin down.

The reason is market manipulation. Large capital, specifically, time after time pushing the price of cryptocurrency to force ordinary people in a panic to sell all their coins.

The cryptocurrency trading is dynamic, what trigger sell sometimes is basically the news, development and current state of affairs do impact the direction of the market more than any individual reason. Bch fork is creating uncertainty as well!

It's also interesting in my opinion. Over the past few days, the market has fallen dramatically, by almost 15% and the top coins had a very small volume. I waited for them to be bought or sold, but nothing happened there. As if they are not interesting to anyone. What's it? what DAG NANO, YOYO and other But was trading on unknown coins.

Well it was a dip Chuck to everyone as how the market went straight down in the past few days, may be it as a result of the bitcoin cash hard fork that happened on the 15th of this month who knows. But thank God the market is recovering gradually and before we know it we will be back to green days.

We cannot control what will happen to the market all we need to do is to give the full effort for judging at so that we can identify what group is really the best among the rest. Prices comes with different value big or smalk we are almost there to achieve what we aim for. The future is unpredictable but one thing is sure the future one.

good words. yes i think it is a cycle and there are only two options whether up trend or downtrend. it is a normal thing in every investment. just focus on your long term goals and dont panic.

Situation in crypto market is shaping out in not a good  way last time. A lot of people panicking sell coins and are afraid of that the prices will fall below. But I think that it is the last bottom to decline, after what will be soaring prices.

Also, I can not see the only serious reason why Bitcoin has dropped so significantly this week. But I take it as a common process of developing the Bitcoin price.
It can not only rise, I believe it will recover and by the end of the year it will return to over $ 6,000.

The big question in my mind is exactly the same as your current question. When the price of Bitcoin drops dramatically, of course there must be a reasonable reason. In order to answer clearly this curiosity. And the red market situation makes many people bored. ???

Such nervous discussions are being created. Bitcoin only broke through 6000) for the whole year we have been suffering from down trending. Now we must calmly relate to this all the more so it was very predictable

I think there is nothing special happend. Fluctuations like this are quiet normal and just part of the deal. Enjoy it!

Maybe it's just another whale move in a long batch. Now the price has fallen despite the fact that the market capitalization has not decreased. People began to buy because they think that the market will grow until the end of this year and so it is, but I would not be surprised if until mid-December prices will grow well, and then there will be a strong jump down again.

It has been so normal. I also see the market and they are all red. So sad. But, I can only smile on my self. I cannot do many things in this very dump market today. Although they are all in red, I'm better to hold all coins. How can I make profits if the market is so dumb? Of course, everybody will think about it. And I think now it is the time for holding only.

Do not waste your nerves and strength on something that is not able to understand and change. Know that those people who made several levels of falling at the right time for them will make a big increase.

The war between Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash: Hard fork is what's happening. The hash rate has caused all the crypto market bleeding and the price are still dropping without remedy the situation to recover. My believe on cryptocurrency is that, the price will return back to $7,000 in December 2018.

because a lot of gossip circulated about crypto prices decreasing and still confusing, I didn't really understand why or why the crypto price dropped so much but I always think positively about crypto

Everything is clear, I think. Learn the charts and market. Everybody had been waiting for the downfall some days before it started! We may be falling lower. Good luck! Try not to sell at a loss because panic sales have already started!

Better say what's on the ether? did he finally die? Or is there any hope. I have 15 ethers, tell me what to do with them? Invest or store, or convert to bitcoin, as the ether dies

I was surprised too by the flash dump in bitcoin price too which caused the same in altcoins and total market cap. I can't recall any bad eelated news or so. This is why we say cryptos is very risky and should be involved in with care.

Another shake off for the weak hands forcing anyone to sold their holiday hoping to lessen their loss but for me this is an opportunity to buy instant 10-20% gain once market stabilize

Right at the beginning when you joined this world, you should know that there are so many things happen in crypto world without any reason. It's just a normal dump and if you keep creating a new thread everytime market dump then I think this Altcoin Discussion section will become your own section with full of your threads only :))

The reason is that the market has been weak for a long time and just some atypical or negative effect to knock the market down. And the trigger for this latest crash was the hard fork of bitcoin cash that brought a lot of mistrust to investors.

I don't agree. I think bitcoin still needs it. just look because he switched the market to shock. when bitcoin still needs investors - investors like him.

I think nobody can really tell why the crypto market is falling further.
Maybe it is because many expected a bull run at the end of the year, which is unlikely to happen.

I also don't understand what's really happening behind the current fall in market prices, but I can only advise not to make panic sales, because it's just a disadvantage, believe me, this cycle will end soon and be much better

if I may ask, how long have you been in the crypto world? this is not a time when cryptocurrency will sink, prices will still spin, just by not seeing it every day, it will only cause excessive stress

You're right. Some of them are panic so they sold their token instantly because they're afraid to lose their ETH deeply. But they didn't know it was only an example for the real holders.

I think, yes, the reason is to disrupt the market indeed. I will not sell either.

you should not make panic sales, but if you are a very risky person, you can sell to buy even lower. I believe that the fall will continue

I was also surprised when I saw all this, I thought that we would not see such strong falls already, and here it is in one day, so I don’t even know what to do.

Could be some Mt Gox residual coins dropping out.  I mean, eventually, we should all expect to see some impact from that.  But I think it's more because of the ongoing market cycles we have always seen with bitcoin.  Just look back 4 years ago and watch the market capitulation cycle of 2014.  Wouldn't be surprised to see btc prices in the 4K range.  Maybe even lower.

I think one of the reasons about the market cap fall is not about BTC dumping,it might be about bitcoin cash fork, many investors were pulling their funds from btc to own some bitcoin cash so as to own the two forks of Bitcoin cash, however there might be other issues causing the fall

every day I come across such posts, people slowly start to panic, and then even more, of course, the whales create panic to drop the price, the earlier all sell the faster the whales will be able to return the market to an uptrend.

I think this is something that predict about a big change. Few days market was very bad and looks like boring. But now it is started to change. I think this will go under 3000$ and then we can hope a better future. I think that will happen in very near future. My believe is vacation season.

What is happening in the market is a complex phenomenon. Now the main thing is not to sell for a pittance what is available, but to wait for the situation to stabilize, which will definitely come.

The market has dumped one more time and it is not surprising. I had this feeling that we are going to go even deeper but everybody was too optimistic. Lets face the fact, that the market will go down and down.

I haven't yet seen any reason behind the recent huge fall in the cryptocurrency market. Really waht is happenning in the crypto, is a matter of disappointment. Every investors are in anxiety, they are observing the situation.

Quite simple. Bitcoin getting manipulated for political reasons. Mighty enenmies like central banks and SEC. Besides the currency use other projects not generating enough revenue yet to get rid of that manipulation. They have successfully burnt many fist time blockchain investors this year and that was the mission from the start. Recovery could be only 2nd half of 2019.

I think the hashwar that happens recently mainly affects the market value of most of cryptos and the current market cap. Through this event, many users of cryptos believed that its time to sell in order to not lose. So they follow the trend and it goes until now.

I was also surprised by this dump, even though I saw news about crypto everything was good and had the potential to recover, but in reality the crypto was getting worse. Maybe there is a team that manipulates prices for personal gain.

indeed the disappointment is always in everyone's mind, but we cannot deny this, because everything is indeed a situation that is happening in the crypto world. then we have to understand it.

I am also confused but I think this is a condition that will continue to repeat itself or occur where the following year will increase as happened in 2017.

Yeah right. There might be some correction happening and when this is done, the will be another bullrun to consider. I still don't understand on to how the price go down and the volume in the market is still increasing. The best thing to do right now is to observe the next move on market then decide on what we are going to do next.

I assume that this situation in the market is associated with bitcoin price speculations. Large investors who are now entering the market are ready to invest very large sums. Basically, they buy assets at OTC (over-the-counter markets). But the price in such markets directly depends on the prices on the exchanges. Everyone wants to buy cheaper and sell more. We are observing the same principle now: in order to buy cryptocurrency cheaper at OTC, it is necessary to reduce the price on the exchange. To do this, it is necessary to push the price on the stock exchange by selling BTC for some amount (insignificant for the investor, but tangible for the market) and then at the dumping price to get ...

most of the people of the community is not sure on what is really happening.
Everything starts before the BITCOINCASH fork executes.
Until now BCH is untouchable or freeze. we should wait till they open it again to know what will be the bounce back or fall down more.

Hello! Honestly, I do not know what to say, I think, now no one will tell you what is happening. He grew up last year, and no one could explain why he’s growing. Now everything is falling and nobody knows why.

What you see is quiet normal. I have seen that a lot of times before. Take advantage of those droppings. It`s just a matter of time.

Unfortunately, i also do not understand why the market is going down so much. Actually, i have not read much negative and that is why i am very much wondering about it.  ::)