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Title: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: wwelsh00 on November 15, 2018, 12:31:56 PM
There are probably thousands of tokens listed on respective exchanges now and most of their prices went downhill. However there are still being traded on a daily basis. Who are the ones trading them?

Example is below. There still a 24hour vol of 343 ETH, although price has been dropping since listing.

https://postimg.cc/f3fGnLV3

or https://postimg.cc/ftxJhYxc


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: Ulya63 on November 15, 2018, 12:42:55 PM
Well, mostly investors or bounty hunters trade if there is a coin in order. But almost always after listing on the exchange in the first days, the volume of trades in the token or coin appears and then gradually fades away. Then the developers themselves include bots that trade among themselves and have almost no effect on the course, but they affect the volume per day. After all, if there is no volume there, then the exchange can delete and the developers do not need it.


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: tuthienloc92bk on November 15, 2018, 01:02:37 PM

 ;D ;D Do you take Bitforex as an example? As someone tell me earlier, BitForex fake trading volume in order to lead the top of exchanges in Coinmarketcap. I do not know whether it is true. But I think it probably happen.


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: Red-Apple on November 15, 2018, 01:08:46 PM
everyone!

at first it might have only been some people who sold their ICO tokens as soon as they were listed on an exchange but now that everyone knows the dump is imminent they are all rushing to dump it as fast as possible. and there is always the pump and dumps of these tokens that attracts a lot of people.


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: shinratensei_ on November 15, 2018, 01:36:15 PM

 ;D ;D Do you take Bitforex as an example? As someone tell me earlier, BitForex fake trading volume in order to lead the top of exchanges in Coinmarketcap. I do not know whether it is true. But I think it probably happen.
It doesn't make sense to take bitforex as an example consider about that exchange site has been used bot combined with fake volumes. I guess OP should visit CMC in the list of an adjusted volume of exchange site and that will give a lot of reasons. But due to the bearish trend and that dump looks a real thing.


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: SaoAccel on November 15, 2018, 01:51:13 PM
I think investors and traders are making the volume in exchanges. Some other investors use bot to trade for them that able to make them profits. Well we see the ups and downs in the exchanges every time because many are doing trading in the crypto currency market because of the high liquidity.


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: Imoote on November 15, 2018, 02:09:05 PM
those who trade them are traders who like to look for profits every day and
obviously that is a very good action because now is the opportunity to buy.


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: tuthienloc92bk on November 15, 2018, 03:24:41 PM
It doesn't make sense to take bitforex as an example consider about that exchange site has been used bot combined with fake volumes.

Yes, I know that. But it seems that he is confused due to high trading volume while bearish market. Therefore, I would like to tell him to find other exchanges to get a better answer.


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: anobtc on November 15, 2018, 03:30:49 PM
All exchanges must use trading bots to increase trading volume for them as well as create liquidity for the coins. This can be easily observed when looking at its order book.


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: cabron on November 15, 2018, 03:38:13 PM

They are the ones who believe in the project, the price won't matter to them as they look at the future not at the current price. In my opinion they are wasting much time on tokens while they can do it in BTC and fiat pair can directly affect the price but those people are concern more of the quantity of tokens I guess. If say you have about 10M Dent Coin or 10M SURETY tokens, its still worth a lot of money compare to just having 1BTC.


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: maldini on November 15, 2018, 04:02:40 PM
Usually those who start it are ICO developers themselves or investors who do not follow the presale and Token Sale. Usually the developer gives the price according to ico but after that it will definitely experience a large dump by the investor holding the token


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: Mishgan27 on November 15, 2018, 04:39:21 PM
really. I do not know. sometimes I can not understand where the trade is, the code is no volume and the coin is dumped with terrible force. as now Mithril that this at all? as if specially made


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: thefoex on November 15, 2018, 04:49:40 PM
There are probably thousands of tokens listed on respective exchanges now and most of their prices went downhill. However there are still being traded on a daily basis. Who are the ones trading them?

Example is below. There still a 24hour vol of 343 ETH, although price has been dropping since listing.

https://postimg.cc/f3fGnLV3

or https://postimg.cc/ftxJhYxc

Isn't it clear that they are all investors who buy when at ico. Do you think there are other people besides investors who do dumps?

if indeed there are other people I'm sure that is definitely not the bounty hunter. because before the bounty was distributed the price had also dropped


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: VieleSind on November 15, 2018, 04:50:27 PM
You really don't know the answer? Of course tokens holders are trading all these tokens after listing on exchanges. Tokens holders are investors, dev team, bounty hunters (if these project run a bounty campaign), traders (whom didn't participate in ICO but they wanna get profit by trading these tokens),.....


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: Wale777 on November 15, 2018, 08:42:19 PM
Both investors and bounty hunters do trade after tokens got listed on exchanges no matter what the price is most especially when the tokens is good for investment and the other thing is there are always fake volume created by bots trading when in reality there is no one buying and selling


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: Nnuego on November 15, 2018, 08:58:12 PM
It all depends on the conditions in which the holders acquired the coins.
Bounty hunters who did not buy their tokens but rather earned them through taaks are more likely to dump on exchanges.
Also some projects offers large bonuses and this compels investors to dump as they would profit even selling at a lower price.

But an investor is unlikely to sell lower than s/he got the tokens for.


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: slightmoon on November 15, 2018, 09:07:16 PM
It's depends on the project. Many time it's attract the investors after the ICO also. Apart from that mostly insiders trade like who made investment in the ICO or Bounty hunters or team. 


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: tabas on November 15, 2018, 09:16:01 PM
Mostly the blame are on the bounty hunters once those tokens are listed to an exchange. And next are the ICO investors, they don't care of the project on how long it should take but what they believe is they are going to get back their ROI quickly once that token is on exchange.


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: 5thFear on November 15, 2018, 09:17:57 PM
I also wondered about those people who after the token is almost sold by everyone are still trading it on the exchanges and my best guess was the bots and some developers who wants to keep that token alive for good times. Some tokens do get alot of attention and then don't need those bot trading as they attract a good chunk of the community.


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: Harriti on November 15, 2018, 09:21:07 PM
There are so many guys are trading ICO token after these tokens listed on exchanges. Maybe they're the whales or investors or normal traders or maybe they're bounty hunters,.....as long as they can get profit by trading any token, they'll do it no matter if it's just a new token or just listed on a new exchange...


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: ityandsyn on November 15, 2018, 09:24:07 PM
There are probably thousands of tokens listed on respective exchanges now and most of their prices went downhill. However there are still being traded on a daily basis. Who are the ones trading them?

Example is below. There still a 24hour vol of 343 ETH, although price has been dropping since listing.

https://postimg.cc/f3fGnLV3

or https://postimg.cc/ftxJhYxc

       Most of the time when token is already listed on the exchange , while tokens of the bounty hunters is not yet in their wallet , and almost one week before it is distributed into their wallet , then the price is already very lower than the ICO price , so maybe the investors or the team itself are the one selling and dumping first before the bounty hunters .


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: aioc on November 15, 2018, 09:30:52 PM
It's very important that a coin get listed to the market immediately after the ICO while the developers develop the platform and the product, this is part of building up the reputation of the project but it always happen that bounty hunters get their rewards after a month or more that it is listed on exchanges.


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: Ultimist on November 15, 2018, 09:42:22 PM
Lots of options. Either this is the project team trading through bots to increase volumes. Or it could be ordinary people who earn on course jumps. In any case, it means someone is profitable.


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: 24Kt on November 15, 2018, 09:53:54 PM

       Most of the time when token is already listed on the exchange , while tokens of the bounty hunters is not yet in their wallet , and almost one week before it is distributed into their wallet , then the price is already very lower than the ICO price , so maybe the investors or the team itself are the one selling and dumping first before the bounty hunters .

High chance that they are the ones pumping or dumping their token. Because most of the time, bounty hunters get their tokens after a week or so (sometimes months of waiting), so there's no chance that they are the one selling. Unfortunately, when their time comes, as you said, the price is already low, which is not favorable to them.


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: romaleshc on November 15, 2018, 09:58:27 PM

       Most of the time when token is already listed on the exchange , while tokens of the bounty hunters is not yet in their wallet , and almost one week before it is distributed into their wallet , then the price is already very lower than the ICO price , so maybe the investors or the team itself are the one selling and dumping first before the bounty hunters .

High chance that they are the ones pumping or dumping their token. Because most of the time, bounty hunters get their tokens after a week or so (sometimes months of waiting), so there's no chance that they are the one selling. Unfortunately, when their time comes, as you said, the price is already low, which is not favorable to them.
I don't think so cause not all bounty campaigns pay bounty hunters after listing :D. There are so many bounty campaigns pay for bounty hunters even earlier than investors. LOL. Buzzshow is the special example, participants in buzzshow bounty even got token before investors could.


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: Pepito Manaloto on November 15, 2018, 10:00:11 PM
There are probably thousands of tokens listed on respective exchanges now and most of their prices went downhill. However there are still being traded on a daily basis. Who are the ones trading them?

Example is below. There still a 24hour vol of 343 ETH, although price has been dropping since listing.

https://postimg.cc/f3fGnLV3

or https://postimg.cc/ftxJhYxc
I think investors are the first to make a trade upon the market listing simply because they aere the ones who first received their tokens from a project. But surely, bounty hunters dk trade the most because many investors are into long term holding especially if they see huge potential in the future for that project. Bounty hunters are mostly blamed for the downfall of the tokens' market value. Majority of bounty hunters are short term holders


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: coinbirds on November 15, 2018, 10:02:47 PM
Some hunters are dumping, investors are buying on the dip, day traders are buying and selling and bots are also involved in market making.
They are buying and selling and providing liquidity to the coin.
Some are leaving the market disappointed and in  panic,while some others are just entering the same market as a good investment.
This is how crypto works.


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: seo-maestro on November 15, 2018, 10:27:12 PM
I think it's exchanges own bots are trading to increase the volumes and to get the higher place on Coinmarketcap because Exchanges receive much higher listing fees from ICOs in dependence to their position on Coinmarketcap Exchanges rank.


Title: Re: Who are the people who trade ICO tokens on exchanges after listing?
Post by: BADBITCH on November 15, 2018, 10:30:25 PM
Always remember that for every ico

There is a private sale
Then there is a pre sale for about 6 stages
Then there is a general crowdsale with different stages of bonuses

Are you still finding those who make sell orders ??