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I watched it unfold live on the Tone Vays stream... brilliant coverage and insight

So whose going to win out?

Is there a future for either?

Is there so much disagreement within the communities that one or both of them will fork again at some point?

Will they fork themselves into oblivion?

Can a fork from bitcoin ever be successful?

These thoughts and many more... thought I'd stick them all in to one post... please share yours

Chiefmonkey

totally crap coin. Binance has already delisted bitcoin cash due to the these shitty forks. I guess there was still a chance for these coins to generate more and more forks in the future. Both of these coins are totally crap. after the deposit for ABC and SV will have opened on binance and then there will be a huge dump.

This is the battle of the titans, which we observe from the side. Current sale off is directly connected to who gets to keep control for Bitcoin cash after fork.

I feel as though SV is going to win out in the long term because CSW is willing to see it through to the end. Jihan Wu seems more likely to remain focused on bitcoin mining than on making ABC a success.

Long term I don't think either will be a success as they can't compete with bitcoin.

totally crap coin. Binance has already delisted bitcoin cash due to the these shitty forks. I guess there was still a chance for these coins to generate more and more forks in the future. Both of these coins are totally crap. after the deposit for ABC and SV will have opened on binance and then there will be a huge dump.
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So do you think Coinbase will delist too?

Or wait to see who wins out?

Its only who gets to keep hold of the BCH ticker symbol right?

I mean both chains are legitimate

At least thats what I think Bitfinex's stance was

Hello,

Its just rich people burning their money, dont get distracted
Focus on learning more and on the people who build things

Cheers

Roger Ver and Craig Wright are both pretty aggressive characters... real shame I used to have loads of respect for Roger Ver but he is dedicated...

I'm not sure about Craig Wright... I think he'd cut off his nose to spite his face... something really odd about that guy

I'm kinda hoping ABC and Roger Ver wins out... lesser of two evils scenario for me

I don't hold any faith either have long term staying power BUT Roger Ver I do believe is a genuine talented and creative guy... I wouldn't be surprised that he could turn things around whatever he gets involved in

I just realized that Bitcoin cash is also a Fork in the original Bitcoin, and not so long, they now start a fork which is BTCABC and BTCSV. My thoughts about it is that, there might be so much free money on the forking process. Too bad missed it.

Good advice and I do... in particular with the dapp development platforms ethereum, eos, cardanno, iota etc

I'm just intrigued what people think the fall out of this will be and it's effect on btc

I think that all this is nothing more than just a bubble that will burst very soon, as it was last year, because last year Roger Ver promoted the idea of ​​SegWit, which also began to revive the market at that very time.

And do not forget Stellar Lumen project, it has a lot of potential and some project used it as their network base lately. Stellar blockchain is the fastest blockchain that we ever have, because it only takes 2~5 seconds to get confirmed by the network.

about people that fall for it, well we could not blame them because it needs a 'knowledge' to understand all of this. even though it only requires a little of it, but it does not mean any common people that does not know anything about cryptocurrency and its technology in particular way will understand this kind of situation. most of them are here for a quick money, not for its technology and development.

I think these forked coins will be nothing more than some useless altcoins, they definitely serve no purpose and i think there was no need of fork if there was some issue then they would have upgraded their network to resolve the issues.

I think this hardfork only brought confusion to the ranks of crypto-enthusiasts and ordinary people  just watching the crypto-currencies. When the market loses capitalization as quickly as it happened the day before yesterday, many will doubt, and whether to start investing at all. I initially didn't like bitcoin cash, and its forks even more so, I think the people involved in this - played too long and i see nothing good about it. I only support bitcoin core.

It think the two are just kind of mere player that only create wealth for those that are wealthy before and has nothing to offer cause the bch claimed to be the real btc and here we are again with the two dev making a separate way so who is claiming a real btc now , which should occur to every one that they are just selfish and has nothing to offer.

It is not like they have delisted BCH completely, and people should stop getting it wrong. BCH was meant to have a network upgrade which results to the bitcoincashABC, and then a contentious hard fork which would cause a chain split, which in this case is the BitcoinCashSV, and what binance have only changed with BCH right now is the ticker for BCH, so in a way, it is more like you still have the same BCH but in a different name and then before the fork whatever you are holding in BCH, you have the same figure as well for BSV.

Nevertheless, that does not change the fact that BCH has always been a stupid fork, and an unnecessary one, and for as long as I want to care, it remains a shit coin and every other coin that probably forks out of it, remains the same.

i believe this is total shit coin totally useless and crap because no more generation binary has also delisted this coin i dont see any future of this coin at all totally crap.There are so many good coins i totally neglect this coin.

All these fork things are now becoming a joke and it is not helping in any manner to help crypto succeed people are laughing at this fight of hash war between Craig white and roger ver Jihan wu.
It also shows how a couple of people with tons of bitcoins can manipulate the market single-handedly.

There's more hashrate, company support and nodes for bitcoin ABC.

https://cash.coin.dance/

But this battle hasn't ended yet.

First of all, I should correct the encryption you listed, they should be BCHABC and BCHSV, not BTC, I think the victory will be left to the economically powerful side!

its a tight race. but really no one wins in the end.

just ignore these megalomaniacs

best thing you can do and dont buy their shitcoin 

As I stated in my thread, the reason why BCHABC is going to win are:
+ ANT pool & Jihan Wu
+ Bitcoin.com
+ Binance, coinbase and other major exchanges have take BCHABC side. Bittrex has even dubbed it as BCH.
Eventually it will be renamed BCH unanimously by all other exchanges.

Craig Wright is a liar who can't even put together a sentence.

Again: hash rate cannot be reliably measured. This is an estimation and you would need sustained 51% hash OVER the ABC fork, not on the SV chain which doesnt matter at all. SV wants to reorg only the ABC chain. The prices of the SV altcoin show how much money is nChain losing compared to bitmain as the cannot profit from their chain.
BTW, ABC has now checkpoints that invalidate a total reorganization.

I was already a little upset about the fork that was the creation of bch, and now we have another fork? I think that this is not doing any good to the market, instead of uniting and concentrating a bit the investment, we are deviating a lot, now the forks have more forks and probably is a question of time until another difference starts creating a new fork

Definitely agree with CSW cutting off his own nose to spite his face, he seems a bit delusional in that regard. Again agree with wanting ABC to win out, most importantly I hope whichever coin wins out it's sooner rather than later, the longer the hash war continues the worse it is for the whole market.

i already sold all my SV coins into bitcoin. it was $100 per BCH.
thanks sv team for giving me that huge money from your rich pocket  :D

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I think they are both worthless and I think it is scary to think that btc.com had hash power so big they could potentially %51 attack bitcoin itself. We have seen a lot of crazy people and we have seen a lot of worthless technology lately.

First of all, if we look at the ABC dudes they had all the hash power in the world under their hands and they have managed to get all that into bitcoin cash to overpower SV people but that also shows how much power just one company can have and how close we are to destroying the bitcoin itself.

Now, looking at the SV side that crazy lunatic dude could look like he is worthless and insane but he is an insane person with a lot of bitcoins, I mean A LOT and he could totally destroy the market by selling all his coins which would still make him rich, just not as rich as he used to be but still insanely rich. Both sides are very dangerous for crypto.

the victor is still the ruler and clearly has a future. disagreement clearly exists and will return at the same point, about forgetting myself I don't know, but if they have a high level of solidarity it will obviously help a lot

I believe that the developers of Bitcoin Cash have become hostages of the situation that they themselves once created, as a result of that situation, and there was a fork of the original Bitcoin. Now the same thing happened to their coin. BTHABC will be a continuation of the original BCH, and that will be with BTHSV only time will tell.

will all bitcoin forks affect the price of bitcoin? I do not think so, they are independent and have an eindependent price turnover, I am not bothered by all bitcoin forks, they actually have attractive colors in the crypto world

The bitcoin cash forking is a battle between two elephants it only the grass that will suffer at the end, what this means is that it the small investors that will suffer from this action at the end because the coins are only going to be dump once they achieve the point they are both trying to proof.

As for me, I participated in this fork. I hold these tokens on binance. As soon as will be the first pump I will see them. I don't think that these tokens will make x10

Who's going to win?
BCHABC officially won hash war.. read the announcement on https://cash.coin.dance/


Announcement

Coin Dance is now able to declare that both active chains will continue to be permanently split into the foreseeable future. The majority of businesses in the cryptocurrency ecosystem are now using Bitcoin Cash (BCH) to refer to the chain maintained by miners operating in consensus with the latest implementations from Bitcoin ABC, Bitcoin Unlimited, Bitprim, Bitcoin XT, bcash, and bchd. A number of exchanges have added support for the Bitcoin SV chain under the Bitcoin SV (BSV / BCHSV) name but general app support is currently very limited. Expect to see announcements made from each of the major companies in the Bitcoin Cash ecosystem that clarify which chain(s) they will support going forward.


Is there a future for either?
BCHABC is BCH as we already knew it, so the adoption with businesses and all will continue and grow even further without that Craig parasite.
BCHSV will also continue to exist however its price will drop to the 20$ range since its current market cap (equivalent to Cardano!..) is completely unjustified.

It has no instinct value, it most likely a shit of a shit fork. I really don't know why people support this kind of fork coin but anyways I read some,on the medium article most likely Bitcoin ABC is likely most successful than the other coin.

What is even there to care about between the two? Forks suck and that is all I see! Moreover, it is a good thing to see Roger Ver get to have a taste of his own medicine after all. However they want to keep forking them up, I am sure it does not mean a thing than they are basically useless and they will never stop being shit coins as far as I am concerned. It is a crazy thing to even want to be considering all these in the first place, bch was just a busy excuse for roger and Jihan as far as I am concerned.

Interesting additions made with SV could make things interesting.. let's wait for the Coin Geek conference this weekend..

I would not try to watch it. CG was obviously on the BSV side and anything that will be discussed is about to shilling BSV and spread lies about ABC. Both of these coins suck.
but thanks for free money from both of these coins.  :P

I think that, Yes, in the long run. I think in 2019, the cryptocurrency market will begin to recover, and these coins will show themselves, from the best side.