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Title: UFC Fight Night 140: Magny vs Ponzinibbio Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: tokeweed on November 16, 2018, 12:36:23 PM
Date: Saturday, November 17
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 22:59 BCT / 4pm PST / 7pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 00:00 BCT / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (Fox Sports 1): 2:00 BCT / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://www.fėrstrow.eu/


https://i.imgur.com/bh3tsw3.jpg

Main Card (Fox Sports 1)

https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Neil Magny (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Magny) (21-6) vs. https://i.imgur.com/yn5NfcB.gif Santiago Ponzinibbio (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santiago_Ponzinibbio) (26-3) (Welterweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Ricardo Lamas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_Lamas) (18-7) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Darren Elkins (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_Elkins) (24-6) (Featherweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Khalil Rountree Jr. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalil_Rountree_Jr.) (7-2) vs. https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Johnny Walker (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Johnny-Walker-170203) (14-3) (Light Heavyweight)
https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Cezar Ferreira (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cezar_Ferreira) (13-6) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Ian Heinisch (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Ian-Heinisch-187341) (11-1) (Middleweight)
https://i.imgur.com/yn5NfcB.gif Guido Cannetti (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guido_Cannetti) (8-3) vs. https://i.imgur.com/msFT43g.gif Marlon Vera (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlon_Vera_(fighter)) (11-5-1) (Bantamweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Cynthia Calvillo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_Calvillo) (6-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Poliana Botelho (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliana_Botelho) (7-1) (Women's Strawweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Michel Prazeres (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Prazeres) (25-2) vs. https://i.imgur.com/7xYkGn0.gif Bartosz Fabinski (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartosz_Fabi%C5%84ski) (14-2) (Welterweight)
https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Alexandre Pantoja (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Pantoja) (19-3) vs. https://i.imgur.com/87k7gIp.gif Ulka Sasaki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulka_Sasaki) (21-5-2) (Flyweight)
https://i.imgur.com/QsvKBvq.gif Humberto Bandenay (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Humberto-Bandenay-110397) (14-5) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Austin Arnett (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Austin-Arnett-57016) (15-5) (Featherweight)
https://i.imgur.com/yn5NfcB.gif Laureano Staropoli (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Laureano-Staropoli-141271) (7-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/U9DtY2I.gif Hector Aldana (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Hector-Aldana-82725) (4-1) (Welterweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Devin Powell (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devin_Powell) (9-3) vs. https://i.imgur.com/QsvKBvq.gif Jesus Pinedo (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jesus-Pinedo-146941) (15-4-1) (Lightweight)
https://i.imgur.com/9MsDPHl.gif Nad Narimani (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Nad-Narimani-67643) (11-2) vs. https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Anderson dos Santos (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Anderson-dos-Santos-95053) (19-6) (Featherweight)

Other

- Claudio Puelles was scheduled to face Devin Powell at the event. However, Puelles pulled out of the bout in mid-October with an undisclosed injury and was replaced by promotional newcomer Jesus Pinedo on October 17.

- The Ultimate Fighter: Latin America 2 lightweight winner Enrique Barzola was expected to face Nad Narimani at the event. However on October 26, it was reported that Barzola pulled out of the bout due to an arm injury and was replaced by promotional newcomer Sergio Giglio. In turn on November 8, it was reported that Giglio was forced out due to injury and was replaced by fellow newcomer Anderson dos Santos on November 8.

- Tom Breese was expected to face The Ultimate Fighter: Brazil middleweight winner Cezar Ferreira at the event. However on November 9, it was announced that he pulled out of the event due to injury and was replaced by promotional newcomer Ian Heinisch that same day.

Thanks to the Puertorican for letting me use this content (https://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/1159801/UFC_FN_140:_Magny_vs._Ponzinib...html).


Title: Re: UFC Fight Night 140: Magny vs Ponzinibbio Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: YuginKadoya on November 16, 2018, 01:25:45 PM
A 21-6 VS 26-3 but I think numbers would never say who's gonna be the winner here but I guess I would still go with the biggest win and the most lower loss and that is Santiago Ponzinibbio I have seen his fights that have an accuracy of punches that have devastating power to it, I really think even with a bigger opponent he is still shinning in the Octagon, I really think he will never back down with Magny and with the most experience than Magny that have the most fights at hand, But we can never say for sure because in the recent tweets of Neil Magny that he is excited with the fight I am pretty sure that he is prepared, But well this is just my intuition regarding who's gonna win.


Title: Re: UFC Fight Night 140: Magny vs Ponzinibbio Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: NightSabre on November 16, 2018, 01:39:57 PM
I came in here for some information on the fight before betting then got distracted by the OP image and Ponzinibbio's cauliflower ears  ;D

I'll probably be going for Ponzinibbio in under 2.5 rounds, I think his stopping power could shine through despite Magny's preparation.



Title: Re: UFC Fight Night 140: Magny vs Ponzinibbio Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on November 17, 2018, 10:41:10 AM
Notes.

-Cynthia Calvillo missed weight by 2 pounds weighing in @ 118 lbs. Make of that what you will. Sometimes it can be an advantage, other times a disadvantage. It all depends on how much effort an athlete put into making weight and how much they depleted themselves in the process. Their relative degree of preparation (or negligent lack of preparation) can be a factor in the fight.

-Cynthia Calvillo was with Justin Buccholz at weigh ins. Justin Buccholz used to be head coach at team alpha male--he trained Cody Garbrandt for the Dominick Cruz fight where Cody Garbrandt was elusive and difficult to hit. After that Justin Buccholz and team alpha male had a falling out and Buccholz no longer trained Cody. This might be seen in Cody Garbrandt fighting more flat footed and his defense not being as tight. Anyways long story short Calvillo also used to train at team alpha male, her being with Buccholz could mean she no longer trains there which could negatively affect her preparation as she is in a period of transition or improvising her training regimen.

-Yuta Ulka Sasaki trained out of team alpha male for his last fight & showed improvement. His opponent Alexandre Pantoja worked with Henry Cejudo in the past, his wrestling technique and takedown defense looked sharp against Dustin Ortiz. That fight could come down to Pantoja's Henry Cejudo counter wrestling versus Ulka Sasaki's team alpha male wrestling. That battle of gym training technique could make things interesting.

-Darren Elkins is another guy who has looked vastly improved since moving to train out of team alpha male. Not certain he has the kickboxing or wrestling/grappling to defeat Ricardo Lamas but Elkins has shown a lot of heart and has been difficult to finish. The over prop could be worth betting if not Lamas straight.

A lot of fighters on the card took these UFC fights on short notice without having fought in the UFC before. A lot of virtual unknowns competing.


Title: Re: UFC Fight Night 140: Magny vs Ponzinibbio Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: btc_angela on November 18, 2018, 03:05:13 AM
I just watched the Cynthia Calvillo weight in and I may say its a big scary to see her slowly walking in the weighing scale with shaky legs trying to weight cut and she can't even stand up for a second, although she has been cleared to fight, but the sight was unbearable to see.


Title: Re: UFC Fight Night 140: Magny vs Ponzinibbio Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: Ewinsane on November 18, 2018, 03:02:46 PM
Another just boring in-between game. UFC has been known to have some fun characters over the years, there have been a lot of fighters who are both good at fighting but also good at getting viewership. Of course, this skyrocketed to general public when EVERYBODY heard about Conor and he made sure the public knew who he was and what he was doing. I am definitely sure he will be in movies very soon and end his UFC career.

However, what people don't realize that there are UFC Fight Night 140's here. They suck, the fighters mostly suck (except the ones who become big later on) and literally filled with people who will be some sort of trainers in 3 years max. Aside from up and coming big stars these things suck so bad. None of these fights will be remotely good and I am pretty sure none of these people will ever be champions ever.


Title: Re: UFC Fight Night 140: Magny vs Ponzinibbio Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: tokeweed on November 18, 2018, 04:41:04 PM
^  Lol...  Conor McGregor started fighting in those Fight Night events that 'sucked'.  Just saying.

And if you're a guy who likes big events, no problem.  Doesn't mean the rest of us shouldn't enjoy finding betting opportunities with the smaller events.  ;)





Title: Re: UFC Fight Night 140: Magny vs Ponzinibbio Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: btc_angela on November 19, 2018, 11:04:28 PM
Another just boring in-between game. UFC has been known to have some fun characters over the years, there have been a lot of fighters who are both good at fighting but also good at getting viewership. Of course, this skyrocketed to general public when EVERYBODY heard about Conor and he made sure the public knew who he was and what he was doing. I am definitely sure he will be in movies very soon and end his UFC career.

However, what people don't realize that there are UFC Fight Night 140's here. They suck, the fighters mostly suck (except the ones who become big later on) and literally filled with people who will be some sort of trainers in 3 years max. Aside from up and coming big stars these things suck so bad. None of these fights will be remotely good and I am pretty sure none of these people will ever be champions ever.


Well, we can compare those fighters or those UFC Fight Nights to D-league in NBA. They needed to developed and perhaps one day we will see someone coming and making a breakout career. At least we can see them in the beginning of their career just like Conor did early on. And how much you hate them, they still making money on the sports they love and bringing food in the table. ;D


Title: Re: UFC Fight Night 140: Magny vs Ponzinibbio Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on November 20, 2018, 08:17:12 AM
Its difficult to determine how depleted some fighters are on the scale. The best method I've been able to come up with so far is to look at their eyes. When a person is dehydrated (it is possible) their eyes become dry, red and irritated. Another indication of dehydration is fighters licking their lips. Cynthia Carvillo displayed neither of those symptoms, if I'm remembering right. It might be fair to say she wasn't that depleted during her weight cut. This is a topic I would very much like to have more insight on, with fighters missing weights being such a dicey prospect when it comes to gambling.

Notes.

-Darren Elkins is another guy who has looked vastly improved since moving to train out of team alpha male. Not certain he has the kickboxing or wrestling/grappling to defeat Ricardo Lamas but Elkins has shown a lot of heart and has been difficult to finish. The over prop could be worth betting if not Lamas straight.

Over 2.5 rounds prop and Lamas straight both hit.

Glad I got something right.   :)


Title: Re: UFC Fight Night 140: Magny vs Ponzinibbio Prediction and Info Thread
Post by: btc_angela on November 20, 2018, 11:43:10 PM
@ Hydrogen - she might not be showing symptoms of being dehydrated (licking lips), but when she came out it was obviously that something is wrong with her, and then when she walks to the scale she can't even stand up. And she was not depleted because she was 2 pounds over the limit, but maybe it was a crash diet to cut those 2 pounds off that's why she was in a wobbly legs during the weigh in.