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Title: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: ProperFerret on November 20, 2018, 07:48:52 PM
China has been massively investing in AI technology and the country's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) has identified 17 key areas as priority for artificial intelligence (AI) development. We all know it is part of the plan to surpass the U.S and other Western countries but it's hard to predict what might happen in the future.


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: gembirdprivate on November 20, 2018, 08:51:53 PM
If the country invests in the development of AI technologies, I think it is very good. As far as I know, Japan also does not spare money for AI technology. Damn, that's awesome!


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: ProperFerret on November 20, 2018, 09:46:17 PM
If the country invests in the development of AI technologies, I think it is very good. As far as I know, Japan also does not spare money for AI technology. Damn, that's awesome!

I am pretty satisfied with the course of things but I have to be cautious due to the fact that such developments are happening in a context of  competition between the world's biggest superpowers while they could have joined forces to achieve phenomenal progress in AI technology.


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: earlytrade24 on November 21, 2018, 01:02:30 AM
Aren't they already the superpower when it comes to AI?


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: gegewojinnian18 on November 21, 2018, 05:44:02 AM
This must be true, but there is no need to panic. The price of Chinese products is very beautiful. They do not charge for expensive intellectual property such as the United States. The rise of China is unstoppable by the United States.


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: thirsten on November 21, 2018, 03:56:55 PM
I think any one country becoming the global "superpower" of AI is unsettling.

As utopian as this sounds, the only way AI's evolution can be a positive thing is if we develop it collectively to create a post-scarcity world. It's the fight for resources in a resource-scarce world that fuel such competition in the first place.

Approaching AI from a competitive angle could end in humans being killed off.


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: Emily_Davis on November 21, 2018, 04:27:25 PM
Aren't they already the superpower when it comes to AI?

I agree! Have you seen all the technology they have in there? They've got humanoid robots and HoloLens and there's even a driverless car in one of those Chinese exhibits! Not to mention their social credit rating system, which they are about to implement nationwide soon! PLUS, all those kids they hired to make AI killer weapons? That's crazy, but if that's not an indication of showing global AI superpower, then idk what is.


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: MathiasCrow on November 21, 2018, 08:19:12 PM
China has been massively investing in AI technology and the country's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) has identified 17 key areas as priority for artificial intelligence (AI) development. We all know it is part of the plan to surpass the U.S and other Western countries but it's hard to predict what might happen in the future.


Is there any official announcement or statement on it?
Anyway, if China sets on on doing something, they`ll nail it. I have no doubts that they`ll be able to reach great position in AI sphere, eventually dominating it.


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: ProperFerret on November 21, 2018, 09:21:10 PM
I think any one country becoming the global "superpower" of AI is unsettling.

As utopian as this sounds, the only way AI's evolution can be a positive thing is if we develop it collectively to create a post-scarcity world. It's the fight for resources in a resource-scarce world that fuel such competition in the first place.

Approaching AI from a competitive angle could end in humans being killed off.

This is my point actually. Both the US and China are competing countries and have different values they abide by. To have China as the leading power in a technology that could impact millions of lives at once should be worrisome. This is why I don't really mind the fact that Facebook, a company that is highly criticized, is working on AI development. I am not sure about the potential benefits of the company's initiative but I try to remain hopeful that its findings will be a substantial response to the Chinese technological expansion.


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: MaJes-ty on November 30, 2018, 12:27:13 AM
I think any one country becoming the global "superpower" of AI is unsettling.

As utopian as this sounds, the only way AI's evolution can be a positive thing is if we develop it collectively to create a post-scarcity world. It's the fight for resources in a resource-scarce world that fuel such competition in the first place.

Approaching AI from a competitive angle could end in humans being killed off.

Or, it could be this competition that could help bring out some of the best AI technology we've ever seen. These innovations could be life-changing (in a good way) don't you think?


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: ProperFerret on November 30, 2018, 10:17:10 PM
I think any one country becoming the global "superpower" of AI is unsettling.

As utopian as this sounds, the only way AI's evolution can be a positive thing is if we develop it collectively to create a post-scarcity world. It's the fight for resources in a resource-scarce world that fuel such competition in the first place.

Approaching AI from a competitive angle could end in humans being killed off.

Or, it could be this competition that could help bring out some of the best AI technology we've ever seen. These innovations could be life-changing (in a good way) don't you think?

Or if the technology is centralized, then we'll just become slaves. Cynical but true!


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: ATMD on November 30, 2018, 10:48:17 PM
Agreed. China brings great innovation and technology to the science table, and artificial intelligence is the all the buzz. I think life would be easier and more convenient for everyone with AI, and this spreads to all areas of life.


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: FunGate on December 03, 2018, 04:25:22 PM
China is going to rule the world and surpass the US in every category. Most people don't even use cash anymore in China and they're way ahead of the game. No longer a copycat nation.

They also have the most motivation to do so. They need extreme efficiency for their sheer population size that would become completely unmanageable and chaotic without integration of such tech.


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: ClockworkTrader on December 03, 2018, 05:04:03 PM
I think any one country becoming the global "superpower" of AI is unsettling.

As utopian as this sounds, the only way AI's evolution can be a positive thing is if we develop it collectively to create a post-scarcity world. It's the fight for resources in a resource-scarce world that fuel such competition in the first place.

Approaching AI from a competitive angle could end in humans being killed off.

This is my point actually. Both the US and China are competing countries and have different values they abide by. To have China as the leading power in a technology that could impact millions of lives at once should be worrisome. This is why I don't really mind the fact that Facebook, a company that is highly criticized, is working on AI development. I am not sure about the potential benefits of the company's initiative but I try to remain hopeful that its findings will be a substantial response to the Chinese technological expansion.

The same here. China`s rapid development rate is outright scary - they have mindset and approach different from the Western world, and they have all they need (or will have in a decade or two) to force their ideals on to the rest of the nations. I`m also glad that Facebook develops AI, I`m okay with threatened personal info if this abuse will somehow help to oppose.

More than that, China keeps on constant development while the USA, Russia and the EU are all concentrated on their internal and external conflicts. It may be too late to react adequately to Chinese expansion after all.


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: ProperFerret on December 03, 2018, 08:34:43 PM
I think any one country becoming the global "superpower" of AI is unsettling.

As utopian as this sounds, the only way AI's evolution can be a positive thing is if we develop it collectively to create a post-scarcity world. It's the fight for resources in a resource-scarce world that fuel such competition in the first place.

Approaching AI from a competitive angle could end in humans being killed off.

This is my point actually. Both the US and China are competing countries and have different values they abide by. To have China as the leading power in a technology that could impact millions of lives at once should be worrisome. This is why I don't really mind the fact that Facebook, a company that is highly criticized, is working on AI development. I am not sure about the potential benefits of the company's initiative but I try to remain hopeful that its findings will be a substantial response to the Chinese technological expansion.

The same here. China`s rapid development rate is outright scary - they have mindset and approach different from the Western world, and they have all they need (or will have in a decade or two) to force their ideals on to the rest of the nations. I`m also glad that Facebook develops AI, I`m okay with threatened personal info if this abuse will somehow help to oppose.

More than that, China keeps on constant development while the USA, Russia and the EU are all concentrated on their internal and external conflicts. It may be too late to react adequately to Chinese expansion after all.

Good values should be the pillars of technological development and while I agree that in that regard, something must be done to counter China's expansion, it would be preposterous for it to be at the cost of our privacy.


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: ProperFerret on December 03, 2018, 08:39:19 PM
China is going to rule the world and surpass the US in every category. Most people don't even use cash anymore in China and they're way ahead of the game. No longer a copycat nation.

They also have the most motivation to do so. They need extreme efficiency for their sheer population size that would become completely unmanageable and chaotic without integration of such tech.

Is that perspective scarier to you than that of Facebook controlling your online privacy?


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: thepatricia on December 04, 2018, 07:25:42 PM
China's "development" is still globalization driven. With almost 1.4B producing great numbers isn't exactly rocket science. So far China's tech sector is a bunch of copycats that only exist due to protectionism. I'm skeptical about China all of a sudden producing true innovation in AI.


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: criza on December 13, 2018, 10:56:57 PM
China's vision of becoming the next global Artificial Intelligence (AI) superpower is not impossible to happen. If there's one country that can outshine the United States of America (USA) and other Western Countries when it cones to AI, that would be China. China's AI endeavor is indeed on its way to success as they improved more, developed more, and innovate more. However, China's great AI advancements and breakthroughs does not mean US'  breaking away off the AI track. I think that China's AI is doing great but still the US is the global AI superpower. But if China's really dedicated towards becoming the next global AI superpower, who knows? They are close enough more than any other countries in achieving that.


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: hoverdrone on December 14, 2018, 03:40:02 PM
China's "development" is still globalization driven. With almost 1.4B producing great numbers isn't exactly rocket science. So far China's tech sector is a bunch of copycats that only exist due to protectionism. I'm skeptical about China all of a sudden producing true innovation in AI.

I`ve been to China last year, the situation is quite different in China`s technology. The government actually supports research and development with money. This way smaller companies can afford developing new technology without affecting their main business.

For example, a company produces some general issue software that keeps it alive in the market and at the same time their special R&D dept works on AI development without hurting main production. I saw it myself, although in different application - it wasn`t related to software, but rather to machinery - but it`s easy to imagine the same situation in IT.


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: cabron on December 14, 2018, 03:48:25 PM
China's vision of becoming the next global Artificial Intelligence (AI) superpower is not impossible to happen. If there's one country that can outshine the United States of America (USA) and other Western Countries when it cones to AI, that would be China. China's AI endeavor is indeed on its way to success as they improved more, developed more, and innovate more. However, China's great AI advancements and breakthroughs does not mean US'  breaking away off the AI track. I think that China's AI is doing great but still the US is the global AI superpower. But if China's really dedicated towards becoming the next global AI superpower, who knows? They are close enough more than any other countries in achieving that.


They are winning in the economic growth this time so they are a lot powerful in many terms these days. They also have the military power and had acquired air authority in South china sea, they already established themselves incase of anything like war will happen. They sure have the great planing maybe will dominate the world one day.


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: darklus123 on December 18, 2018, 09:27:29 AM
This is actually the reason why they are spying using their Huawei phone lol.

I just have concluded that as of the moment they can't still surpass US nor Japan when it comes to technology. Since they cannot solved the formula that currently US has been developing


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: pratapbhanu on December 19, 2018, 03:14:19 AM
It is very right that China is investing in AI technology and at different levels, the most important thing is that we can see things turning out in real lives and nobody can stop China to become AI superpower


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: cryptodukeguy on December 19, 2018, 05:50:33 PM
Hinounou and Lemochain are some of the practical examples of chinese projects that are pioneering in this landscape. I believe China is already winning undoubtedly.


Title: Re: China as the next global AI superpower?
Post by: 99subsats on December 19, 2018, 06:29:37 PM
Hinounou and Lemochain are some of the practical examples of chinese projects that are pioneering in this landscape. I believe China is already winning undoubtedly.

AI and blockchain are so advanced in China that they are already being implemented in their business models. Not just in theory on in some lab! Hinounou has already partnered with the world's leading insurance agency AXA to provide China's first affordable insurance packet and from what I read yesterday they already "invaded" Poland.