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Title: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: Steamtyme on November 22, 2018, 05:48:10 PM
So I've been going through some of theymos's posts and I realized today is the 9th anniversary of the forum.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.0

That's the announcement thread by Satoshi for the beginning of this forum as we know it today. Much like a 9 year old there is shit going on that baffles our minds and it has taken on a life of it's own so to speak. I don't know what it was like in the old days but I hear it was great, except when it wasn't.

Everyone talks about how great it was, but I think it was just young and unknown. There were obviously still trolls/scams/spam and shitposts, but with so few users it didn't seem as blatant. Obviously with time and word of mouth these issues have compounded, but I still find great topics/discussions and help peppered throughout the forum.



Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: eddie13 on November 22, 2018, 05:50:19 PM
Happy anniversary BTCT!

I wonder what was in topics 1 through 4 and posts 1 through 27.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: HODL2090 on November 22, 2018, 06:04:17 PM
Obviously with time and word of mouth these issues have compounded, but I still find great topics/discussions and help peppered throughout the forum.


The increase in popularity and growth in price of Bitcoin is the main catalyst which increased the popularity of Bitcointalk.
And with the Advent of ICOs, this forum became not just a niche to discuss about digital currency matters but also a way to earn.
There is still unrivalled quality on the forum and no other cryptocurrency forum can hold a candle to bitcointalk.
Happy anniversary


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: tmfp on November 22, 2018, 06:10:04 PM
Happy anniversary BTCT!

I wonder what was in topics 1 through 4 and posts 1 through 27.

Quote from: theymos
1, 2, and 4 exist in the staff forum. 3 was permanently deleted at some point (it must have contained Satoshi's real name and address).
 


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on November 22, 2018, 06:14:56 PM
Everyone talks about how great it was, but I think it was just young and unknown.
I'm pretty sure that's what made it great--along with the passage of time and perspective, much like how many people look back fondly on their childhood, and the bad times that happened in the past tend to get to get smoothed out (sometimes).  Bitcointalk certainly wasn't like what it is today.  It seems like it was like a frontier where anything could happen--and honestly in a lot of ways it's still like that.  Theymos hasn't introduced many rules and restrictions, and there's still very much a Wild West vibe to the forum, and to crypto in general.

And with the Advent of ICOs, this forum became not just a niche to discuss about digital currency matters but also a way to earn.
There is still unrivalled quality on the forum and no other cryptocurrency forum can hold a candle to bitcointalk.
Happy anniversary
Those damn ICOs.  Great for forum traffic and for the people who keep churning them out, not so great for investors or for the discussion quality on the forum because of all the bounties.  We all know that's the major thing that's affected bitcointalk since the early days--all the advertising and all the shitposting it's brought with it.

There's still some great discussion going on here, though, and it's still a great forum.  So happy birthday! 


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: S_Therapist on November 22, 2018, 06:50:23 PM
Happy Anniversary Bitcointalk.

I wish I could join here earlier before investing in cryptocurrency. I would not face such kinda loss. I have learned a lot and still learning. I never had familiarized with a lot of things regarding crypto investment before joining the forum.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: Lafu on November 22, 2018, 07:05:07 PM
Happy Anniversary Bitcointalk.

I can just follow them and say Happy Birthday too !

9 years is a long time with ups and downs so lets hope the next 9 years will be good and great again and maybe one day we will get a clean Forum !

Best wishes to the Digital Museum Bitcointalk ! ;D :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: Ispep on November 22, 2018, 07:31:15 PM
Happy birthday!!
I actually would be lying if I said I didn't wish I joined much earlier than I did,but I guess it's better late than never...
Really this forum despite all the dark sides(Ico's,spam,scam etc) ,happens to be one very wonderful community to discuss and exchange ideas,it definitely can't be as it was in the past,but honestly it could be better in the future..

It's amazing sharing ideas and information with individuals from different parts of the world,you may never get to see(this forum unites the cryptocurrency world)

Happy birthday once again


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: suchmoon on November 22, 2018, 07:45:28 PM
Oh dear.... we think it's bad now but it will surely get worse in the teenage years.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: Steamtyme on November 22, 2018, 11:34:56 PM
 It seems like it was like a frontier where anything could happen--and honestly in a lot of ways it's still like that.  Theymos hasn't introduced many rules and restrictions, and there's still very much a Wild West vibe to the forum, and to crypto in general.
-Snipped-
  We all know that's the major thing that's affected bitcointalk since the early days--all the advertising and all the shitposting it's brought with it.

I definitely feel these 2 statements really sum things up nicely. The forum definitely comes with that free enterprise feel, where you can do as you please with very few limitations as far a I'm concerned. Up to and including flat out scams and abuses.
It also allows you the ability to be a fully functioning positive contribution in any way you feel. You can shop, find partners or build a business should that fit with what you want. On the other hand you can just show up and have a discussion or read, or investigate every shady thing you come across; or on the flipside ignore entire sections or people. It takes some getting used to but it's not impossible to adapt and find a place here.

It's going to be interesting to see how the forum grows alongside BTC and crypto in general moving forward; maybe celebrate 10 years with New forum software. I'm whispering

Happy birthday!!
I actually would be lying if I said I didn't wish I joined much earlier than I did

I'm sure a lot of users do, most of them though only wish they could have beaten the merit system... no vision unfortunately.

Oh dear.... we think it's bad now but it will surely get worse in the teenage years.

As long as it doesn't bring that stupid facebook forum home one day for supper... I swear I saw it eating glue.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: pugman on November 22, 2018, 11:55:07 PM
Happy anniversary BTT!!!!

If one thing bitcointalk could wish for, it should be for its old members to come back. That pinnacle of interest back then is just gone now. People are now here for other stuff. Its not the same bitcointalk it once was. Wish some things should have never changed.

Oh dear.... we think it's bad now but it will surely get worse in the teenage years.
I can already imagine teenagers posting their pics of them dancing on their homemade stripper pole.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: vit05 on November 23, 2018, 12:06:06 AM
It was arguing in a civilized way that many innovations were implanted and / or created. I'm sure this forum was very important in the development of Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. Unlike most social media, a forum is a place of debate, not only to speech. And this leads to the clash between different ideas. It is curious how Satoshi preferred to participate in places that provided debate and allowed more people to contribute to the project he created.

He could just post on the site, offering updates so the project would follow only his vision. Satoshi wanted Bitcoin to belong to everyone. Decentralized. And for this happen, places like this need to remain relevant.

Happy anniversary BTCT!

I wonder what was in topics 1 through 4 and posts 1 through 27.

https://bitcointalk.org/first_topics/



Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: mprep on November 23, 2018, 12:21:12 AM
Happy birthday Bitcointalk. Not exactly in the best shape but, as others pointed out, due to a curse brought on by Bitcoin's success.



I don't know what it was like in the old days but I hear it was great, except when it wasn't.

Everyone talks about how great it was, but I think it was just young and unknown. There were obviously still trolls/scams/spam and shitposts, but with so few users it didn't seem as blatant. Obviously with time and word of mouth these issues have compounded, but I still find great topics/discussions and help peppered throughout the forum.
Not sure whether it's just me looking at the past through rose tinted glasses, but I definitely feel that the "old" (I've started lurking around mid to late 2011) Bitcointalk had a much better signal to noise ratio. Most of what I'd find would either be interesting, funny or at the very least informative. Nowadays, I pretty much hang around Meta (for moderation and the occasional juicy drama) and occasionally venture out, trying to find interesting topics that aren't polluted by low value posts or just outright spam.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: jackg on November 23, 2018, 12:51:38 AM


Quote from: theymos
1, 2, and 4 exist in the staff forum. 3 was permanently deleted at some point (it must have contained Satoshi's real name and address).
 

Dammit! I got here too late!

@theymos, I think you should send an encrypted pm with the name ;).


Isn’t 1 also always the horrible, “welcome to smf” topic/post. I’m surprised it wasn’t just deleted unless theymos did some fancy stuff woth the database.

I can say it has improved since 2015. Although everyone doing signature campaigns then as newbies are now newbies doing bounty spam so...

@mprep, wow, I’ve nearly been here half as long as you. That does surprise me ;D.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: Hexah on November 23, 2018, 04:56:41 AM
wow :o, Bitcointalk 10 year running. very interesting indeed.
By the way you didn't read OP's post, it's 9th anniversary, you can read it too on the title.

This was the stepping stone of bitcoin and through years this forum has been the very witness of its greatness.

Happy Anniversary Bitcoin Forum.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: Yeahpro on November 23, 2018, 07:24:33 AM
They grow up so fast.
And the forum has evolved and revolved fur ng the nine years that it has been up.
Inspite of the supposed decline in quality and advent of scams and spams, I still feel bitcointalk is on its original path it was set in by Satoshi.

The mods and admins are doing a good job to maintain the sanity on the forum and control the excesses which comes with unprecedented growth.
Today, or yesterday I believe should be set aside as a day to acknowledge the staff, merit sources, donators, (and future report busters) for their effort in keeping this forum running.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: Sharon121212 on November 23, 2018, 08:19:48 AM
I have been here not even up to a week as at the writing of this reply but I have been elevated already both in cryptocurrency and off cryptocurrency and for over nine years the forum has be impacting in multitude of individuals I think if there is a position for the ninth wonders of the world bitcointalk forum stands a chance.

 A forum that's cuts across various countries eliminating most problems faced when nationality gathers like racism, sexism e.t.c. I have no doubt that the forum is a trail blazer in the cryptocurrency forum sector.

Made up of very enlightened and educative member I cheers and celebrate with everyone in the forum to the ninth year of the forum and I know there would be more fruitful years ahead


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: YOSHIE on November 23, 2018, 11:12:41 AM
Bitcointalk forum is something that many people take seriously in discussing things about Bitcoin, cryptocurrency, economics etc., Some people are even willing to spend a lot of ideas, suggestions and criticisms that are useful for other members, for the future hopefully Bitcointalk canissuing clean thoughts and hearts, common sense and full of maturity.happy 9th bitcointalk birthday.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: tmfp on November 23, 2018, 12:02:50 PM

Happy anniversary BTCT!

I wonder what was in topics 1 through 4 and posts 1 through 27.

Quote from: theymos
1, 2, and 4 exist in the staff forum. 3 was permanently deleted at some point (it must have contained Satoshi's real name and address).
 

Dammit! I got here too late!

@theymos, I think you should send an encrypted pm with the name ;).


I think that Theymos may have revealed his sense of humor with that reply, rather than the existence (somewhere) of Satoshi's dox.
Badbear gave a rather more prosaic description of the Missing Post...(you guessed right about the first one)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg3198423#msg3198423

Quote
Staff forum. They are just test threads, and configuration type stuff.

I inserted topic subject into the quotes as the first line.

First thread is
Quote from: Simple Machines on November 17, 2009, 11:12:08 PM
Quote
Welcome to SMF!
Welcome to Simple Machines Forum!

We hope you enjoy using your forum.  If you have any problems, please feel free to ask us for assistance.

Thanks!
Simple Machines

Second
Quote from: admin on November 19, 2009, 01:04:27 AM
Quote
Testing the new site platform
Drupal & Simple Machines Forum
Third is inaccessible so it must have been deleted, though it may still exist in the earlier backups which several of us have. If I had to guess it was a just a test thread made to be deleted so that could be tested and logs verified.

Fourth is
Quote from: satoshi on November 20, 2009, 05:37:24 AM
Quote
SMF Config Notes
I left the admin account set to the original SMF theme so if I somehow completely wedge the custom theme I can still get in to fix it.

I've got a neat little 12x12 coin image to replace those pip stars with.  Should look nice.  Also some nice button images to try.

The registration page has "hide your e-mail address" unchecked by default.  I must fix that in php before we can open up.

The Announcements forum is currently moderator access only.
Most of the replies are test replies, with some discussion about preventing spam at registration.
 

Fwiw, rereading those early posts from Satoshi, I'm inclined to believe that he had English english as his first language.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: darklus123 on November 23, 2018, 01:37:58 PM
Be lated , happy bday to this community. Being a part of this forum for 3 years is just one of my awesome experience being a part of the early adopters of bitcoin in my country with the knowledge that i have coming from here really gave some of my colleagues an idea of how crypto works.

Spread the coin and cheers!


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: jackg on November 23, 2018, 01:43:00 PM
By English English do you mean British English (;D).

I think a lot of the growth in the price should probably be accredited to this forum and also theymos and sirius for keeping this and the reddit forums active for so long.

We’ve never had very much downtime here either even before switching to cloud flare.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: theymos on November 23, 2018, 09:34:29 PM
Time flies!

I want to do something really special for 10 years. If you have ideas, PM me.

I definitely feel that the "old" (I've started lurking around mid to late 2011) Bitcointalk had a much better signal to noise ratio.

Definitely, but it's more to do with size than anything. That was the community's golden age because it was a pretty tight-knit community where people knew and cared about each other to some extent, and there was a shared vision. You lose that as communities grow. On a forum of this size, in order to return to the level of quality we had in 2011, you'd basically have to turn the forum into a police state. And even if you were OK with that in principle (which I'm not...), it'd push away many of the good contributors. Often it seems like a situation of "size, freedom, or quality: pick two".

There is room for improvement, though, and there are probably many ways of incrementally improving signal-to-noise without sacrificing much or any freedom.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: The Cryptovator on November 23, 2018, 10:28:29 PM
Great day today for Bitcoin users. Thanks OP to remind everyone. I believe bitcointalk has been keeping a big role to spread the word about Bitcoin. It's not just a Bitcoin foeum, we can called it a great crypto academy. I can say about myself, I didn't aware much about crypto but I have been learning from here and obviously I have learned so many thing.

I believe if continue like this we can build a decent forum. And obviously thanks to Satoshi for give us life changing opportunity. And thanks to theymos for his hard work to manage this forum nicely.





Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: cellard on November 24, 2018, 06:30:14 PM
There's nothing better to dissipate all doubts about the assorted scammers that claim to be satoshi than just read his posts here, they are just trying to mimick his posting style but fail at it.

Someday I have to find the time to read all the 575 posts he made in chronological order, im sure that will be interesting, I've just read a couple of pages and the most famous posts.

As far as this forum goes I've learned so much, I never imagined i would spend so much time on it. Let's go for 9 more years then, and shall we all be uber rich by then.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: Goodvalony on November 25, 2018, 05:51:44 PM
it is quite amazing to be part of this wonderful community that empowered and enlighten everyone about cryptocurrency and Blockchain technology which is the future technology of the century. i am delighted and must confess that i have learn a lot from here. it is an honor been here and will do my best to assist Newbies in the community. we all learn when we assist people as well. the foundation is strong. the Bitcointalk community stands as the flag-bearer of the decentralized financial system.
Happy Anniversary Bitcointalk.org


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: hilariousetc on November 28, 2018, 07:14:39 PM
On a forum of this size, in order to return to the level of quality we had in 2011, you'd basically have to turn the forum into a police state. And even if you were OK with that in principle (which I'm not...), it'd push away many of the good contributors. Often it seems like a situation of "size, freedom, or quality: pick two".

You wouldn't. I think if you removed signatures completely that would solve the issue instantly. All those who are causing the issue in the first place would just leave and to never return. Problem solved. This forum would probably go back to how it was in the good old days practically overnight. I think if you even just required a high amount of activity to get a signature that would solve a lot of the shitposting. I don't think having some minimum standards on how signature campaign managers can operate here would turn the forum into a police state either. Most campaigns would clean up their act when they realise there's some punishments for how they behave here. It's because they can get away with doing nothing that they do. If we stopped removing ref links then people would continue to spam them all day everyday but removing ref links doesn't = police state. There's rules here to try keep some order and not ruin the experience for everyone else. Signature campaigns have practically destroyed the forum and the vast majority of people don't think that's ok and simply telling campaigns to clean their act up or they can't advertise here should be common sense and not some form or tyranny.

There is room for improvement, though, and there are probably many ways of incrementally improving signal-to-noise without sacrificing much or any freedom.

I agree there's lots of things we can do but when can we try them? The longer we leave things the worse things get and more genuine users are pushed away and leave only to be replaced by dozens of spammers in their wake.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: mazdafunsun on November 28, 2018, 08:41:12 PM
Oh dear.... we think it's bad now but it will surely get worse in the teenage years.

made me laugh  ;D

I hope that it will become better from now on forward with the merits and all... but isnt this what every parent is thinking?


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: ATMD on November 28, 2018, 10:53:42 PM
I like this forum, although I only recently joined, happy birthday to Bitcointalk!


Title: Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today
Post by: btyco on December 02, 2018, 09:28:13 PM
The great thing about this post is that we will know when the 10th anniversary of bitcointalk will be. The 10th birthday of bitcoin itself was a bit of a disaster, but when it happens for bitcointalk next year we should pump it to the moon!