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There comes a moment in a traders life where he realizes "the easy move is over, the rest is to destroy the traders without a plan".
Faster you get there, the more tolerable your experience will be.

I never realized this to destroy other traders without any plan. As much as possible I want everyone to earn with trading. I'm not selfish though but that's it. Yes! investing is believing to what you are doing with your money and it is accumulated risk where the rewards is worth it someday.

But this isn't for everyone, those that doesn't have an appetite to investing, they should remain to their office jobs but to have a better living in the future, start investing.

Investment always seems easy for those who are non investors as for them investment is a method by which one can earn very good profit in a very short span of time but the picture is not that good as it seem to be for others but only those can understand who are investing into that investment because one needs to take intense risk to invest because investment is always about taking risk so one needs to believe that if you have invested you will surely get profit, the only thing one needs to do is to wait for the right time.

if you really think that then what you are doing is not really investing, it is gambling.

investing is investigation, experience, analysis, timing, planning and finally a tiny bit of luck. none of it has anything to do with silly things such as "believing" and basically putting your head in the sand.
if you can't do that then you should not invest at all unless you like losing money.

This scenario is very rare and not a good way to proceed further. You need to have lot of patience, timings, and you need to understand the situation of the market. All these useless drama will not work out here.

I do believe that you can be both an investor and a trader at the same time. I also needed to be a careful investor since we do know how dangerous the world of crypto is. In my case I do have some activities that I do that would allow me to become more resilient to scammers and bad companies.

This is true, it is mostly just believing in the product that you have purchased, there is no exact science to actually making money from the investments, it is just believing that what you have invested in is going to do better and then you also need a little bit of luck to get you on the right track of things so you can make the most out of it

actually things like that have happened every year. just maybe the rise and fall of prices is not too drastic so it feels no burden, but seeing the current conditions as if we really do not believe in the current situation even though we have experienced several times

I like your words, but in fact when you get profit from trading there are many people who will get a loss. this is a rule that cannot be changed. You buy cheap because many people sell because they lose. or vice versa you sell when the price is high because many people are affected by the pump wave.

You need to believe in the project that you are investing in. Thats why I am always doing a good investigation of any project. Otherwise your investments will be gone and you will end with empty pockets.

Right. It is so. In this market you have to spend money (even a lot of money) then you can learn the lessons and experience. But if anyone survived this time, they were really strong.

I once heard a saying that, trading is the process of taking money from the impatient and giving it to the patient.
And one has to lose for another to gain.
Even during the bullish run, others had to lose out for one to win, it's the nature of trading in any area.

Experienced traders are now on horseback. Since now we need risky moves. Their experience allows you to close deals and win on it. I think these guys are ready for anything.

thats why people should analyst all the things before make an investments in any investments opportunities
research and predict what will happend with their investments,, a profit taking actions price when hit the target this means don't be greedy,, and cut your lost short when the price is going to the wrong directions my friend,, always remember trading is not gambling

I always do a good investigation of any project. Otherwise, your investment will be lost and you will end up with an empty bag. You have to trust the project you are investing.

yes maybe but for people who have difficulty understanding it, they will think crypto can't produce anything. too many risks that can make them lose.

Someone who invests without proper background checking and investigation is just like his throwing his money out of nowhere.

Trusting the project is easy, we are doing it from the very beginning but having lack of confidence and responsibility of setting standards, you'll end up broke. It's not only about believing in investments but you need to do your part that you know what you are doing.

But you also need to have the chance ;) just not believe, I do not want to believe anything while the market situation

I agree with you, to make an investment we need truly mature considerations because it will be related to the funds we use and we cannot just depend on luck.

In addition to believe, you have to research. When you have experience of some field then you can take better decision. The day you started in field of crypto currency is the day you started believing in crypto field. For better research you have to spend time in that particular field. I think one should not start investing from day one, first one should get some information about the field then start investing.   

I do believe in some projects that we currently have in crypto world but I do not invest in them. Just because you trust some team to accomplish what they set out to do doesn't mean it will either go up in price or you would risk your money into them.

I trust that nano will be the best coin out there for money transfer, they are currently leading currency for the highest amount of traffic with zero transaction fee and instant transaction. That is a technology that crypto world sorely needs because bitcoin literally got destroyed during the peak times when the transaction fee went as high as 30 dollars, it means Nano is really fixing a problem in the crypto world.

Doesn't mean I will invest any further ( I did in the past), the price is really low right now and I do not see it going up any time soon, even with a bull run it will never be its original price for a long long time.

I sort of agree here. Traders who want to succeed in the long run must rely on what marathon runners and long-term planners do: ensure you keep to your plan. Ensure you have the discipline to follow through with what you planned based on strict learning and adherence to your own principles.

Because you know others will not do the same. They will make mistakes. They will give in. They will give up. They will fall prey to indiscipline and impatience. And their mistake will be your gain.

Works in any market. Works in crypto.

i guess all of us have our own pearls of wisdom on that account, however i think you are right saying these words. yet fast or slow, doesn't really matter as each of us follows his own path

Investment = trust, and that is the thing that is done by some experienced investors, but now too many investors who invest only capitalize on the news or just follow others so that they do not consider the risks to be faced, and this has a big influence on the market.

Agree that you cannot be a long term investor without faith in the market sector. Bear markets like the current one  come after big rises to weed out the non-believers.

Before we engage in this kind of investment we should know the possible cost that it might happen. So, we must believe that after this drastically dipping price there is an good news awaiting ahead and makes us a better profit. Long time holder is must a believer itself because at this moment we are currently facing many struggles in market price,

Investment is only for those that trust and believe in what they invest in ,they tend to stay strong even when things looks awful, every investment has its flaws ,so is cryptocurrency too ,its not meant for the weak or people looking for huge profits in short term

When someone earns, others lose, it's simple math. It's a shame not to know it.

We should have everyone on the winning side.
Never hope for your own sake. This is cryptocurrency and the movement on investment is fast or delayed.
We must study hard. now investing is waiting and we need more patience.
Just invest in a project that you will trust!

The ice age for the HODL strategy has come, but it will be spring and the bulls will be back! Good Luck friends!

by reason of imitating the bounty of other people's work and using fake team photo images, it is clear that ICO aims to deceive investors, so that with this kind of event we must really check the truth of all team profiles and see the project program to be carried out. this is to avoid loss of time and material if we invest in this project.

During this period, I'm not in a hurry to trade cryptocurrencies, I think that this time is very risky for trading. Now I see only very good opportunities for investment for the long term.

Investment is one business that is full of art. All that depends on how a swordman enjoys his journey. During this time, I still consider their activities positively and I continue to enjoy this trade.

Easy income is over. I can't disagree with that. Hard times ahead. Only those who really believe in their future will remain in cryptocurrencies, that bitcoin will grow and will cost 10 times more than now. There are such people, but their faith weakens with the fall of the market.

isn't investment with crypto currency that requires confidence and patience and that is also trust is needed in investing because the risk is very large in investment

Today you need to understand that you do not earn immediately, as it was a year ago. Now you need to wait, if you invest in a project, any project takes time to develop a product.

Now a very nervous period for both traders and investors, I think most have turned gray. ;D I'm more of an investor than a trader, I haven't sold a single asset with a current loss because I believe that in the long run I will be rewarded enough. Investing is not easy and not for everyone. Let the weak go, we'll get more.

It's good that there are people who leave the market during a price drop and sell their coins at any price. After all, in order for someone to earn money, someone must lose this money.

I think so too, investing requires trust because in investing a lot of risks that will be experienced, patience is also very important, now people believe by holding back a few years later will become rich

Isn't the way it looks like. It actually there is no easy life in crypto even since before, you still need to work in order to have a good result. Our market isn't destroying the life of traders, it only happen that they loss so much cause they never have adaptability of the market itself which could bring them into mostly panic selling.  

indeed on a business trip to be able to run smoothly we need to like the business first, because that pleasure also influences. so we need to like the activity first.

Investing into something is that you are risking your capital which is you think that it may give you a profit or multiply your capital if you trust or believe in that type of business as well. Then, if you made a mistake this may also give a loss of capital too in the end.

There are a lot of things need to be research before you start to invest in something, and you need to do that as detail as possible to decrease the risk of losing money, if you don't do that it's the same with gambling, investing in crypto is not simple, decentralized investment got higher risk to be manipulated

trust is very important in investing because it is seen a lot of risks that will be lived and felt we must be prepared with the risks that will come, we must dare to take the resko

I think investing is more than just believing, you need to get adept knowledge of whatever you are buying, you need to do alot of personal research and get valuable facts abiout the project, their next plan and utilization of their product.

Get everything right, and ensure to engage in self determination and believe too.
Avoid Fud and fomo,

how can it destroy other traders? we are here to be the same as traders who are certain that one of our goals will be the same
I will not think so because in my opinion it is not the right way to invest or trade

Of course investing is all about believing. You invest money on crypto currencies because you "believe" that the price will eventually rise on the long run. If you believe that the price will drop, will you be investing on those crypto currencies? Nope. If the price has dropped to its peak point and you believe that the price will rise back, then you will invest more when the price dips. In the end how you will invest your money totally depends on what you "believe" will happen to the market.

Yes, to succeed in crypto and get a good income, you need to believe in it and constantly work, gain experience. You can't get rich here overnight. All your money can only be earned by honest work.

right. When I invest in a place I will investigate all information related to the project, the community's assessment of the project, the level of risk is high or low ... then make a decision there. investment or not. If I invest I will fully believe in my decision. If it fails then it will be a lesson for the next time.

For sure investing is believing everything that is related to cryptocurrencies are believing, ICO and other stuff because there are not any guarantees that it will be alive or there will no be a dump

it is hard to accept that the opportunity has been lost, but I guess everyone should move forward about it. Trading is never an easy game as much as investing. Crypto has lost lots of value since last year, but I still believe it will boom again this december.

Trading is never easy and it is complicated. You got to have a strategy on your own to succeed and experience is the precious gain you will get in this endeavor. For me, there is no standard way of trading and luck constitute largely to your success.

It could be like that, if we have invested in crypto, surely we will get results later, even though it's a long time period, which of course we have to keep yakiin and believe in the results that will be achieved in the future

Yes, and now we are in December which we will see the bull market will happen in this month or the new year. Investing in crypto is not easy because the price is too volatile and we don't know what will happen in the next day. And this is why we need to choose the right investment coins and keep calm for every situation that might occur at the market. There will be a time for the crypto to rises again, and the crypto will get the time for the bull run.

Many people have this assumption that trading in cryptocurrencies can be easier compared to other investment vehicles but this year this kind of notion has been proven false but many of neophyte traders lost money in the big way. All the speculators who entered this market thinking they can make a killing are now gone for good and it can take a lot of convincing for them to get back here. Indeed, any trader in this space who got no plan or strategy is just wasting money, time and effort.

Not really sure what you mean.
I think it sound like you feel you are in competition with others?
That is not a healthy investment mind set.

The more you network, the more you particpate in communities, the more people back a coin, the more everyone wins.
It's not a race to see who can last the longest or sell the fastest.
This type of mindset will severely weigh down your progress.

The nature of supply and demand works best when everyone participates, when there are a lot of buyers and a lot of sellers.
When the balance gets thrown off, that's when we see bad things happen in the market.

Either it crashes or grows so fast i eventually crashes.

Believe that it will be better, because this will be our passion too if we will start an investment and we must believe that what we do by investing will bear sweet fruit in the future, the most important thing is the belief of ourselves

Believing or putting a trust to a project/coin is one of many reason that we should had to make an investment in cryptocurrency.
Without it, there will be no guaranty about a future profit

If we believe, we will invest and if we do not believe, we will not invest, so one important foundation is to believe, build trust, and of course, this has a strong foundation so investing in crypto can be done. I think investment in crypto is based on trust and as if without any guarantee. Crypto is indeed an extraordinary investment.

I think for December the price of bitcoin will still be in the 4000 $ figure. believe is the initial capital to achieve success in taking all decisions, dare to buy when the market goes down is a good choice and believe in the growth of the value of bitcoin. patience is needed in investing in earning a profit.

Trust in the investment that we have will help us in convincing the type of investment we will go to.
Trust will add a sense of optimism towards ourselves. Never think we cannot do anything because it will hinder our development.
The more we believe and the more we learn, it will make it easier in the life of our investment.

It is not always enough to just believe when investing, it needs a deep study about what the current situation of the coin where you are investing. Knowing it will give you hint on the future and upcoming innovations that it might bring. You can also figure out if it is a scam or not.