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Title: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: Dontfearthebear on November 24, 2018, 07:00:45 AM
'Do not panic' - when it comes to anything bear-related.
'It creates opportunities' - but first-time investors may become concerned when prices begin falling drastically

Any tips to offer people new to cryptocurrency?


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: btc_angela on November 24, 2018, 07:26:21 AM
Don't invest at this point. Market situation is getting worst. You might as well wait till everything has settled down.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: figmentofmyass on November 24, 2018, 07:42:17 AM
'Do not panic' - when it comes to anything bear-related.

he who panics first, panics best. ;)

the thing about panic selling is this: if you know you're gonna do it, do it early. don't wait weeks or months because then you'll probably end up capitulating at the bottom.

Don't invest at this point. Market situation is getting worst. You might as well wait till everything has settled down.

yeah, i would encourage new investors to chill on the sidelines for a bit. we'll probably be stuck in a downtrend for at least a few weeks out, and likely longer than that. 2019 will probably be a good year for accumulation.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: Lalafell on November 24, 2018, 07:46:37 AM
Don't invest at this point. Market situation is getting worst. You might as well wait till everything has settled down.
Its up to you if you will invest at this current market where the market are down. But, for me it is a good idea to invest in cryptocurrency even we face down trend market. Most of us are now scared on situation of market and I think even the professional do not know if the market will going up or down.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: nicster551 on November 24, 2018, 10:31:37 AM
'Do not panic' - when it comes to anything bear-related.
'It creates opportunities' - but first-time investors may become concerned when prices begin falling drastically

Any tips to offer people new to cryptocurrency?

Why do you always advice someone not to panic when the market is going down? They should cut their losses while they can.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: Marcel666 on November 24, 2018, 10:33:36 AM

he who panics first, panics best. ;)

the thing about panic selling is this: if you know you're gonna do it, do it early. don't wait weeks or months because then you'll probably end up capitulating at the bottom.

Very true. Firstly it is not possible to actually not panic in the face of dropping prices and massive losses. But the decisions you make in that situation is what counts.

Durung a bearish market, Protecting your capital, would take precedence to profit maximization.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: Thirdspace on November 25, 2018, 11:53:52 PM
Why do you always advice someone not to panic when the market is going down? They should cut their losses while they can.
it's always start with slow gradual drops and small numbers of "panickers"
people get uneasy, followed by 30%-50% of btc owners are panicking, the dip will be even deeper
then more are infected by this "panic selling" up to 70%-80% owners, probably crash the market
which left the 20% as hodlers and/or buyers, who may become the next millionaires when market recovers
that's why noone should panic... triggered by small drops, panic, deeper dips, more panic, and finally crash :-X
or if you really want to panic sell... as figmentofmyass said do it early ;D


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: Tytanowy Janusz on November 26, 2018, 12:14:34 AM
'Do not panic' - when it comes to anything bear-related.
'It creates opportunities' - but first-time investors may become concerned when prices begin falling drastically

Any tips to offer people new to cryptocurrency?

There is panic selling - taking known loss but loss
There is also panic holding - taking unknown risk and loss hoping that everything is gonna be ok.

Looking at history of my trades biggest losts i had from panic holding.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: aervin11 on November 26, 2018, 04:20:27 AM
'Do not panic' - when it comes to anything bear-related.
'It creates opportunities' - but first-time investors may become concerned when prices begin falling drastically

Any tips to offer people new to cryptocurrency?

Reading this made me think of this qoute from Warren Buffett — "Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful"
As of the moment, retail traders are in panic mode and I'm pretty sure of that because this huge downfall is undeniably alarming BUT the thing that everybody is going out of the market selling their assets, maybe it's a good chance that we take advantage of that qoute a great trader thought us. It makes sense right?


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: Sifon on November 26, 2018, 12:59:16 PM
'Do not panic' - when it comes to anything bear-related.
'It creates opportunities' - but first-time investors may become concerned when prices begin falling drastically

Any tips to offer people new to cryptocurrency?

Why do you always advice someone not to panic when the market is going down? They should cut their losses while they can.


I think the post was more focused on newbies. Panic is normal especially when investments are threatened both for a newbies and veterans. Of course, people can always cut their losses and move on rather lose all while waiting indefinitely for a market recovery


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: cryptocrusher on November 26, 2018, 01:41:30 PM
'Do not panic' - when it comes to anything bear-related.
'It creates opportunities' - but first-time investors may become concerned when prices begin falling drastically

Any tips to offer people new to cryptocurrency?

Well you need to decide what to do with your investments, but have a thought out process for this. You must first decide if you're selling, buying or neither. Most people fall on to neither, as they wait to see how things unfold. In that time it's important to not waste the opportunity you've got to spend your time productively, study the market, previous trends, potential developments etc. That way when the market does recover you'll be ahead of the competition.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: BitHodler on November 26, 2018, 01:51:08 PM
I don't think it's a good thing to do for beginners, but it could turn out to be worthwhile if you have been here for a while and know how things more or less work. I was too hesitant to actually try it initially, and here we are.....

During bear markets it pays off to short 10-15% of your portfolio with a mild to semi aggressive leverage count. It should be able to preserve as much of your portfolio value in fiat as possible on the way down.

Whenever you think the bottom is in, liquidate your position and enjoy seeing the value go up again as the price starts to recover again. It's somewhat too late right now, but could work out during the next bear market.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: Slow death on November 26, 2018, 02:30:47 PM
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I'm wondering if you really are a Newbie, you created this thread and do not respond in that thread


Any tips to offer people new to cryptocurrency?

like all businesses in the world, one must do research, courses and create a plan of action. in the case of crypto people should also take courses, people should do research, people should have plan. If people are investing in the long term then they should not have reason to worry, if they are doing day trade then they should have a lot of knowledge about day trade, charts, technical and fundamental analysis.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: prashanta on November 26, 2018, 02:51:51 PM
In addition to Bitcoin for people I sold in or before, I did not really know about investing in any mass market. I suspect that Bitcoin fashions will continue for a long time and people who can get it in December can take it for three years or more. My point is that there were lots of real estate jobs and exchange-traded groups which had long been up to the stomach and Bitcoin was eventually the same Can do that.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: Harlot on November 26, 2018, 03:13:48 PM
This to do list will really depend on your current situation (what your portfolio looks like) in the market. If you have a green portfolio you have two choices buy more or think about shorting BTC. But if you have a bleeding portfolio I think the best thing you can do is wait because you can't really do anything else besides that. What matters is you have a plan in this situation as even if the prices are dropping it signifies as a opportunity for all of us. Even if you have a red portfolio you can always add more BTC, that's if you still believe in it.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: Experia on November 26, 2018, 03:22:30 PM
'Do not panic' - when it comes to anything bear-related.
'It creates opportunities' - but first-time investors may become concerned when prices begin falling drastically

Any tips to offer people new to cryptocurrency?

you can also earn new coin and once it was listed in exchange sell it immediately and buy bitcoins and hold it until the price raises again and have a good value. Yes when the market is down it creates opportunities to make a good income thru holdings.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: Hamphser on November 26, 2018, 03:51:34 PM
'Do not panic' - when it comes to anything bear-related.
'It creates opportunities' - but first-time investors may become concerned when prices begin falling drastically

Any tips to offer people new to cryptocurrency?
For those people who just recent discovered about crypto then I would say this is indeed the best entry you can buy cheap coins.
We are on a major correction as of now which reaching up all time lows with most crypto in the market even on BTC itself.
but still as a newbie investor then you should always consider to invest on the amount you can afford to lose.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: yanto@1977 on November 26, 2018, 04:23:18 PM
'Do not panic' - when it comes to anything bear-related.
'It creates opportunities' - but first-time investors may become concerned when prices begin falling drastically

Any tips to offer people new to cryptocurrency?

The tips is only one, leave crypto for now and come back again next year. There's nothing we can do this year, many people already leave so what are you waiting for?. For this situation safe asset is more important than create income not to scare you but that's the true. Down trend still running and cut loss is become realistic option, do that now and good luck to you.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: Reid on November 26, 2018, 04:35:36 PM
'Do not panic' - when it comes to anything bear-related.
'It creates opportunities' - but first-time investors may become concerned when prices begin falling drastically

Any tips to offer people new to cryptocurrency?

Look at the history.
That is what I always say instead of explaining everything to them.
I dont want them blaming me for I have been the one to push them. Better to just let them do the decision and let them look at what happened before and summarize it.

One problem with being a human. You always look for someone to blame it to, even if you are the one who really made the choice.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: leowonderful on November 26, 2018, 04:36:57 PM
Don't put in all your money at one time if you're trying to purchase coins. I would stagger purchases and perhaps set orders to buy at certain prices at this point in time with the high volatility right now.

Something else to note from Theymos which I believe is legitimate advice:

If there's any BTC price that would ruin you, then it might be a good idea to sell some.

It's fine to hold, but you also need to recognize when you might need to sell off some of your coins. I'm not selling right now as I accumulated coins at a much lower price than BTC is at right now, but I'm also ready to sell if things go south.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: Dontfearthebear on November 27, 2018, 03:04:26 AM
Thank you all for your input, but I still can't fathom how bear markets can provide opportunities with less risk. For now, I will keep monitoring my portfolio (for some reason it just doesn't feel right) while finding good projects and start learning how day trading works. Thanks, again!


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: Cliarbikr on November 27, 2018, 06:18:55 AM
'It creates opportunities' - but first-time investors may become concerned when prices begin falling drastically
Any experienced investor knows that you need to buy an asset when panic begins and people sell. When even ordinary people are interested in buying and buying assets, an experienced investor sells


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: herurist on November 27, 2018, 06:20:34 AM
'Do not panic' - when it comes to anything bear-related.
'It creates opportunities' - but first-time investors may become concerned when prices begin falling drastically

Any tips to offer people new to cryptocurrency?


Yes, leave crypto now for your own good. Don't trust people with opinion like that because if you believe you'll not realistic anymore. In this time many people already leave because they have proof crypto not profitable again. Think again before decides to stay.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: Mr.durden? on November 27, 2018, 01:40:41 PM
To-do list on the bear market?

  • EARN MONEY

Bear market is a perfect time to open cryptocurrency short positions (https://bitsgap.com/blog/what-is-a-short-position-in-crypto-trading-when-to-open-and-close-it/) and earn coins. I have been doing this starting from the time when Bitcoin was 7k and was constantly falling.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: LeGaulois on November 27, 2018, 02:15:02 PM
We often say "Don't invest what you can't afford to lose". I think it's something that worth to mention, seeing the current market crash, it's a good reminder. People may need to change and/or adapt their strategy (which I did personally). Some people say "HODL HODL BUY BUY", but there are people who invested a lot in cryptocurrencies and have bills, loans, food, family, etc to pay.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: Kemarit on November 27, 2018, 04:36:53 PM
We often say "Don't invest what you can't afford to lose". I think it's something that worth to mention, seeing the current market crash, it's a good reminder. People may need to change and/or adapt their strategy (which I did personally). Some people say "HODL HODL BUY BUY", but there are people who invested a lot in cryptocurrencies and have bills, loans, food, family, etc to pay.

Right, we need to understand and make the adjustments in a bear market. I'm sure that experienced traders are very flexible and often times sells at high and buy in dips. But for those who are new in this games, their mindset is that the price would always go on a parabolic rise that's why a lot of them got burned easily because we went into a bear cycle. Just stay cool and continue to monitor you portfolio and learn how this whole trading process works, (Not just buy low, sell high paradigm).


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: Dondont on November 27, 2018, 04:49:14 PM
'Do not panic' - when it comes to anything bear-related.
'It creates opportunities' - but first-time investors may become concerned when prices begin falling drastically

Any tips to offer people new to cryptocurrency?

be patient and try to control emotions, because if it is bearish, many beginner traders, including investors, are often wrong in taking steps that ultimately also follow to worsen the market atmosphere. some people believe that crypto will repaint the previous chart, we'll see, hopefully it will be in line with expectations


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: eaglewhite80 on November 28, 2018, 07:08:47 AM
'Do not panic' - when it comes to anything bear-related.
'It creates opportunities' - but first-time investors may become concerned when prices begin falling drastically

Any tips to offer people new to cryptocurrency?

Reading this made me think of this qoute from Warren Buffett — "Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful"
As of the moment, retail traders are in panic mode and I'm pretty sure of that because this huge downfall is undeniably alarming BUT the thing that everybody is going out of the market selling their assets, maybe it's a good chance that we take advantage of that qoute a great trader thought us. It makes sense right?
That quote is something that will keep coming into reality as time goes on, but the truth is that not everyone will actually understand or be able to put it into practice. This is an opportunity to be picking the market at this point, and sure, there is a certainty the market could go lower, but considering the long term opportunities for this market, the previous ATH, where we are now, the best thing to be doing as an investor is to be investing bit by bit if you do not know how to monitor price action in the market, or if you know how to do the latter, just wait and let the market develop and see a good chance to get in than trying to rush in, but in the end, it all depends on your plan and mentality when it comes to the long term


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: MattyBversion3 on November 28, 2018, 07:22:43 AM
Take this time to invest in yourself...
Learn about the technology you’re investing in.
Figure out how to use the different exchanges (got DEX?)
Test out different wallets.
Buy a small amount of your fav PoS token and learn how to stake it.
Download xmr-stak and learn how to CPU mine Monero.

Hope that’s helpful...
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Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: BlueStackz on November 29, 2018, 05:49:32 AM
'Do not panic' - when it comes to anything bear-related.
'It creates opportunities' - but first-time investors may become concerned when prices begin falling drastically

Any tips to offer people new to cryptocurrency?
As the old saying goes, "Keep Calm and Carry On". When you panic and react to the market you only make the whales happier. They do want you to panic and sell your bitcoins so they can gather more from lower prices and get richer when the price goes up.

The problem with bitcoin is the people who bought during 20 thousand dollar times, do you really think the rich people bought bitcoin at 20 thousand dollar levels? No whale actually bought during those times at all.

Also another trouble is the people who sell under 4 thousand dollars, who sells bitcoin under 4 thousand dollars full on knowing that bitcoin can be 5+ quite quickly any time. Why would you even consider that as an option? Hence I think we got rid of the 20 thousand dollar people but do not be scared of these prices and just keep calm.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: adaseb on November 29, 2018, 06:18:00 AM
Panicking in a bear-market is normal. Unless you got a very small amount invested in crypto, many have suffered huge losses in the last 2 weeks. And many did Panic, its human nature, unless you were hedged when $6K broke.

In a bear-market the price usually goes down quicker than it rises. Take the stock markets for example, usually a bear market lasts less than a year but it takes years for the price to go back to their previous ATH levels.

Stock markets rise slower because most retail traders take profits very quickly like a 5% gain, hence the slow growth. In a bear-market most retail traders have huge 50% losses and that's why the selling usually accelerates at some point in time when everybody wants to sell but nobody wants to buy.

Use this to your advantage and try to profit.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: TheGreatPython on November 29, 2018, 11:10:16 AM
Thank you all for your input, but I still can't fathom how bear markets can provide opportunities with less risk. For now, I will keep monitoring my portfolio (for some reason it just doesn't feel right) while finding good projects and start learning how day trading works. Thanks, again!
If you understand the long term potential, then you can fathom how it provides opportunities when it comes to buying at low price. Sure, the risks are there unless we want to lie to ourselves and being a new market, it is pretty volatile and shit can still go crazily awful.

However, the thing you really need to be considering is the fact that despite all these, will you like to see yourself taking a risk on the market with potential and getting the best of it, or at least knowing you tried, than not doing that at all? I have always had this notion right from time, buy when everyone is fearful, you cannot miss it that way.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: wuvdoll on December 01, 2018, 07:03:32 AM
'Do not panic' - when it comes to anything bear-related.
'It creates opportunities' - but first-time investors may become concerned when prices begin falling drastically

Any tips to offer people new to cryptocurrency?

Look at the history.
That is what I always say instead of explaining everything to them.
I dont want them blaming me for I have been the one to push them. Better to just let them do the decision and let them look at what happened before and summarize it.

One problem with being a human. You always look for someone to blame it to, even if you are the one who really made the choice.
No one can push anyone into doing anything, you can only do your own best by trying to advice, but it is not on you when they finally make that decision.

We people need to understand the fact that the market is still very young, and volatility is a norm but the simple truth when it comes to the market is to make sure you are at least trying your best to make sure you are at least not missing any good chance the market gives you considering the long term perspective. One thing about this life is that the opportunity you are seeing now may not come again, so it is best to utilize what you have in your hands effectively.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: cindygirl on December 01, 2018, 05:01:05 PM
Thank you all for your input, but I still can't fathom how bear markets can provide opportunities with less risk. For now, I will keep monitoring my portfolio (for some reason it just doesn't feel right) while finding good projects and start learning how day trading works. Thanks, again!
If you understand the long term potential, then you can fathom how it provides opportunities when it comes to buying at low price. Sure, the risks are there unless we want to lie to ourselves and being a new market, it is pretty volatile and shit can still go crazily awful.

However, the thing you really need to be considering is the fact that despite all these, will you like to see yourself taking a risk on the market with potential and getting the best of it, or at least knowing you tried, than not doing that at all? I have always had this notion right from time, buy when everyone is fearful, you cannot miss it that way.

You need to learn to understand fear and use it as a guiding emotions, like with all emotions there is no such thing as a bad one. Negative emotions are there to communicate certain things to you. In the case of fear it's that your money is not completely safe and there is some risk involved, knowing that your fear can be channeled in to the pursuit of knowledge and understanding to better mitigate the risk at hand.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: Bobby park on December 01, 2018, 09:57:41 PM
'Do not panic' - when it comes to anything bear-related.
'It creates opportunities' - but first-time investors may become concerned when prices begin falling drastically

Any tips to offer people new to cryptocurrency?
Things to do during bear market is to hold our coin or make a stop loss. Yes, panic sellers are sometimes failed to make money. Just be calm and relax. Always think that it happens in market and we must not seek for a positive outcome. In fact, even the businessman or veteran traders lose their money when there is a bearish season.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: Yamifoud on December 01, 2018, 10:20:59 PM
'Do not panic' - when it comes to anything bear-related.
'It creates opportunities' - but first-time investors may become concerned when prices begin falling drastically

Any tips to offer people new to cryptocurrency?
Things to do during bear market is to hold our coin or make a stop loss. Yes, panic sellers are sometimes failed to make money. Just be calm and relax. Always think that it happens in market and we must not seek for a positive outcome. In fact, even the businessman or veteran traders lose their money when there is a bearish season.
Not all the time we've been still holding especially when we knew our coins have no chances of its recovery. Selling during bear season isn't a good idea but it somehow it help to generate money from the losing  trend of our investment and to diversify into high potential gaining coins. All of them are in low price, so we have chances to fully load our bag with them.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: gogrowglow on December 01, 2018, 10:27:35 PM
What to do now is just hold your assets because to liquidate now is a sure loss.  It is too late now to sell,  the price is so down,  you should have sold the  first month  the market dropped, that time you might have cut your losses.   Considered this experience of bear market,  as a "lesson learned".   For now, just hold, and think positively.  Cryptocurrency is here and it will stay, for good.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: Vinz1978 on December 01, 2018, 10:56:27 PM
For those who bought their coins at higher price, the best thing you can do right now is to hold your coins until the next bull run. For others, this is an opprotunity to invest while the prices are very low, though it might not be the bottom yet.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: DarkBullet on December 02, 2018, 09:18:25 AM
Things to do in bearish market

✔ Keep it calm and easy
✔ Set stop loss / Stop limit trades
✔ Do not put all your money in one basket
✔ Invest what you are afford to lose
✔ If you are a day trader, just trade 10% of your funds and 90% will be for buy back (Only if applicable)
✔ Focus on the number of your holding you collect, not on its value because most alcoins are affected in this downturn
✔ Be updated with crypto related news
✔ Avoid FUDs and FOMOs

I always keep these in mind and these words are all from my experience. Bear market is always a great opportunity to get those altcoins and bitcoin at a sale price  :D


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: panganib999 on December 02, 2018, 10:49:10 AM
Don't invest at this point. Market situation is getting worst. You might as well wait till everything has settled down.
Isn't it the opposite? bearish market is full of opportunity since market is volatile and so the next of dump will be pump not in weeks or months but it will surely pump on right time. Bear market is the opportunity to invest on your foresight alternative coins and don't forget the bitcoin, ethereum and XRP. Don't panic sell on this time and losing is a must for now.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: hermankoles on December 02, 2018, 10:55:36 AM
bear market makes us lose for a moment but if we think back that we still have the coin and they don't scam, some time later there will be a price recovery and we will have the best price back then, there is nothing wrong with holding a coin


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: buwaytress on December 02, 2018, 11:46:32 AM
It's a very "oriental" thinking actually, to view threats as opportunities. It's no cultural coincidence that in my part of the world, perhaps somewhat dissimilar to the rest of the world, it's when the market's in the doldrums that you see enterprise and business take the most risks.

There's also recent research that shows that a lot of successful enterprises tend to be founded not at the heights of economy, but during the downturn. Of course, this is at least down to logical math. The farther down you are, the more likely you are to grow in the opposite (upwards) direction.

Some traders revel in the bear market. They see every hopeful spike as a profit-taking opportunity or chance to short. Just always the risk that they don't exit before the tide of sentiment turns.


Title: Re: To-do list in a bear market
Post by: Dimon8 on December 02, 2018, 11:58:01 AM
During the "bearish trend" you have to patiently wait for the market reversal and not trade. You can do the work on the mistakes of previous transactions as well as pick up pairs that look promising for merchants.