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Title: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: alex_kir1 on November 26, 2018, 02:20:17 PM
Hello everyone who reads this message. My account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1141896) was blocked and I would like to know the reason for blocking my account because I thought for a long time and could not understand what was the reason, so I decided to go to the cleanest place of this forum.
I have great respect for the administration of the forum.
Please answer, if there is hope for my account to be unblocked and what should I do for this? Thank you for your attention.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: S_Therapist on November 26, 2018, 02:24:22 PM
Since you have copy/pasted others works, you are permabanned.
33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.[e]

Original-
Archived (http://archive.is/lzkRt)
How can I not talk about what would be in the market with bitcoin, I'm sure that such a jump in prices was noticed by absolutely everyone and began to rejoice that joy was exactly sincere, because for the last 4 months of joy it's very little, because on the charts only bearish sentiment.

Copied-
Well, how can I not talk about what would be in the market with bitcoin, I'm sure that such a jump in prices was noticed by absolutely everyone and began to rejoice that joy was exactly sincere, because for the last 4 months of joy it's very little, because on the charts only bearish sentiment.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: alex_kir1 on November 26, 2018, 02:37:42 PM
Wow, someone copied my message and I get banned for it? I wrote it on April 12, 2018, and this person with the nickname dangbinhminh just stole my message and wrote it on July 27, 2018. With all the respect for the administration, I would like to ask where exactly is my mistake?


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on November 26, 2018, 02:51:26 PM
If you have been banned for this particular case, then I guess the mods have to un-ban you because the posts dates are wrong and you actually are the original poster in the case.
The mods have to say if this was the reported case you got banned for or other one.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: S_Therapist on November 26, 2018, 02:54:23 PM
Wow, someone copied my message and I get banned for it? I wrote it on April 12, 2018, and this person with the nickname dangbinhminh just stole my message and wrote it on July 27, 2018. With all the respect for the administration, I would like to ask where exactly is my mistake?
Sorry, I gave the wrong link. Wait, I will be back. I don't think you are banned for this.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: S_Therapist on November 26, 2018, 03:13:22 PM
Dear forum members, unfortunately, I can not write a message to the user krishnapramod because I am a newbie.

I ask you to write him a message and indicate this thread so that he will pay attention to me. Thanks.


You are not banned for that reason. krishnapromod has reported the other user, not you. It was a mistake by me. I have shared wrong link.

Edit-
A group of people was banned including you. Therefore, you definitely have broken rules. Wait for a reply from a moderator. You will be confirmed.
https://i.ibb.co/jbmFDmV/asd.png


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: alex_kir1 on November 26, 2018, 03:19:46 PM
Dear forum members, unfortunately, I can not write a message to the user krishnapramod because I am a newbie.

I ask you to write him a message and indicate this thread so that he will pay attention to me. Thanks.


You are not banned for that reason. krishnapromod has reported the other user, not you. It was a mistake by me. I have shared wrong link.

Ok, I deleted the previous message.
Then I ask dear admins to say if you have the opportunity, why I was banned? Just don’t understand the reason.
Thanks.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: alex_kir1 on November 26, 2018, 03:54:31 PM
Dear forum administration, I ask you to tell me the reason for my ban, maybe someone can do this? I will be very grateful for that. I see how in other topics of this branch they talk about plagiarism, but where was I wrong? And what should I do to unban my acc?


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: hilariousandco on November 26, 2018, 04:06:59 PM
This was the post that was reported (which is in the trashcan) and what I'm presuming you were banned for:

Ethereum  $499.24 - Maлeнький pывoк и мы y цeли. A дaльшe 600 и пoнecлacь. Boт этo жизнь. Ктo cлит пo 200 тoт гpycтит.
***
Ethereum  $501.68    B cPeднeм Ha кoинMapкeт.

Дa, вoт тeпepь мoжнo cтaвить гaлoчкy нaпpoтив цифpы 500 =)
Интepecнo, пoйдeт дaльшe, или тeпepь тoптaтьcя бyдeт? 500 yвидeли, xaй oбнoвили, мoжнo и дaльшe идти ;)
Hyyy... yчитывaя, чтo щa yжe 522...

Teпepь вcё зaвиcит oт биткoинa. Ecли битoк пpocядeт , тo вcё pyxнeт вмecтe c ним, a этoгo oчeнь нe xoтeлocь бы...

Эфиp, этo нe гoвнoтoкeн, кoтopый oткpыв poт cмoтpит нa биткoйн. И кoppeкция биткa мoжeт oчeнь cильнo кaтaлизиpoвaть ycкopeнный pocт эфиpa, a нe пpocaдкy. A гдe шyм, тaм и cyмacшeдший pocт..

Ecли битoк нaчнeт пaдaть , тo в пepвыe дни в пaникe бyдyт лить вce , a вoт пoтoм мoжeт эфиp кoнeчнo и cтpeльнyть , нo зa 500 yжe cxoдил- зaдaчy минимyм выпoлнил

Ethereum  $499.24 - Maлeнький pывoк и мы y цeли. A дaльшe 600 и пoнecлacь. Boт этo жизнь. Ктo cлит пo 200 тoт гpycтит.
***
Ethereum  $501.68    B cPeднeм Ha кoинMapкeт.

Дa, вoт тeпepь мoжнo cтaвить гaлoчкy нaпpoтив цифpы 500 =)
Интepecнo, пoйдeт дaльшe, или тeпepь тoптaтьcя бyдeт? 500 yвидeли, xaй oбнoвили, мoжнo и дaльшe идти ;)
Hyyy... yчитывaя, чтo щa yжe 522...

Teпepь вcё зaвиcит oт биткoинa. Ecли битoк пpocядeт , тo вcё pyxнeт вмecтe c ним, a этoгo oчeнь нe xoтeлocь бы...
Битoк нaчaл кoppeкцию, я тaк дyмaю кoнeчнo, мoжeт этo oчepeднaя cтyпeнь, нo мнe кaжeтcя дoлжнa былa пpoизoйти кoppeкция и дa я дyмaю мнoгиe нaчнyт пepeкидывaть cpeдcтвa в Эфиp, пoэтoмy кaппa эфиpa мoжeт выpacти ;) A cooтвeтcтвeннo и caм эфиp.
Эфиp, этo нe гoвнoтoкeн, кoтopый oткpыв poт cмoтpит нa биткoйн. И кoppeкция биткa мoжeт oчeнь cильнo кaтaлизиpoвaть ycкopeнный pocт эфиpa, a нe пpocaдкy. A гдe шyм, тaм и cyмacшeдший pocт..


Ecли битoк нaчнeт пaдaть , тo в пepвыe дни в пaникe бyдyт лить вce , a вoт пoтoм мoжeт эфиp кoнeчнo и cтpeльнyть , нo зa 500 yжe cxoдил- зaдaчy минимyм выпoлнил.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: suchmoon on November 26, 2018, 05:14:19 PM
This was the post that was reported (which is in the trashcan) and what I'm presuming you were banned for:

I reported that but now that I'm seeing these posts next to each other it looks like it could be a mangled quote. Not sure why alex_kir added a period and didn't post any reply of their own though. And some weird editing in another post there.

Edit: so perhaps alex_kir was responding to EssentialCoin or Sherwoodforest with this sentence, which is the only new bit in that post:

Quote
Битoк нaчaл кoppeкцию, я тaк дyмaю кoнeчнo, мoжeт этo oчepeднaя cтyпeнь, нo мнe кaжeтcя дoлжнa былa пpoизoйти кoppeкция и дa я дyмaю мнoгиe нaчнyт пepeкидывaть cpeдcтвa в Эфиp, пoэтoмy кaппa эфиpa мoжeт выpacти Wink A cooтвeтcтвeннo и caм эфиp.

And the other quotes got fucked up somehow.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on November 26, 2018, 05:25:44 PM
I don't want to be that guy, but I really think that this maybe is a misquoting situation.

I think he posted this :
Quote
Битoк нaчaл кoppeкцию, я тaк дyмaю кoнeчнo, мoжeт этo oчepeднaя cтyпeнь, нo мнe кaжeтcя дoлжнa былa пpoизoйти кoppeкция и дa я дyмaю мнoгиe нaчнyт пepeкидывaть cpeдcтвa в Эфиp, пoэтoмy кaппa эфиpa мoжeт выpacти Wink A cooтвeтcтвeннo и caм эфиp.

But he wrote it in the other's quote. This happen to me before so I know how easy it is to mess up the long quote pyramid.

Of course he could have taken away the previous quotes to keep it more tidy but shit happens sometimes.

I think I'm on the OP side this time.

Edit: ops, suchmoon edited his post too quickly ;)


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: suchmoon on November 26, 2018, 05:45:34 PM
Edit: ops, suchmoon edited his post too quickly ;)

Ninja edit :)

I've PM'ed theymos, perhaps he can find a few minutes to take a look at this.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: hilariousandco on November 26, 2018, 06:04:42 PM
I don't think I banned him, but it does look like it could be a misquoting fuckup.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on November 26, 2018, 06:23:39 PM
I don't think I banned him, but it does look like it could be a misquoting fuckup.

Just out of curiosity, can you unban him or only theymos/Cyrus can?


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: hilariousandco on November 26, 2018, 07:30:58 PM
Yes, I usually can remove them.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on November 26, 2018, 07:49:18 PM
Great, so at least this procedure is not as difficult as the account recovery. :)

Hope the OP will get his account unbanned :)


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: khaled0111 on November 26, 2018, 08:16:58 PM
Obviously OP typed his reply inside the pyramid quote.
If this is the reason of the ban then hilariousandco (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=164822) can easily unban him, but what if this is not the real cause of the ban!! hilariousandco should contact the one who banned the account for clarification.

ps: I think "when banning an account" mods should add the reason of the ban and it should be visible on the account's profile page to avoid ban-appeal threads.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: hilariousandco on November 26, 2018, 08:52:03 PM
Obviously OP typed his reply inside the pyramid quote.
If this is the reason of the ban then hilariousandco (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=164822) can easily unban him, but what if this is not the real cause of the ban!! hilariousandco should contact the one who banned the account for clarification.

Only theymos can see who banned him, but there's only one report on the queue on that user and it follows a few others banned for copy and pasting in the same thread.

ps: I think when banning an account, mods should add the reason of the ban and it should be visible on the account's profile page to avoid threads like this.

Manually banning people is clunky and very time-consuming and we have a one click button for a permaban so that's what usually happens. The ban message should probably be chnaged to you have been banned for plagiarism since that's probably what it's used for in 99% of cases. I have requested an additional button that gives the same message to clear up further confusion.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: Xal0lex on November 26, 2018, 08:54:17 PM
No, it's plagiarism. Here is the post alex_kir

https://i.imgur.com/apc8ld4.png
Big image https://i.imgur.com/apc8ld4.png

And this is the original post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2409041.msg25446280#msg25446280

https://i.imgur.com/qLPhIT9.png
Big image https://i.imgur.com/qLPhIT9.png

No doubt about it. I have no idea how can be mistaken. IMO, this was done intentionally.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: DireWolfM14 on November 26, 2018, 09:17:09 PM
No, it's plagiarism.

~snip~

No doubt about it. I have no idea how can be mistaken. IMO, this was done intentionally.

I'm not so sure.  As suchmoon, iasenko, khaled0111, and hilariousandco have already noted; it appears that alex_kir made a mistake when quoting the pyramid.  I'm inclined to agree.

Furthermore, as hilariousandco mentioned this is the only report made for user alex_kir.  Most plagiarists don't stop at one copypasta, they are serial plagiarists.  After scanning many of alex_kir's posts I did not find any more plagiarism.  Although one can argue most of the user's posts are worthless shitcoin blather, they were on topic and seem to be original.



Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: suchmoon on November 26, 2018, 09:38:07 PM
IMO, this was done intentionally.

How about that additional text inside Sherwoodforest's post? It's original content (at least I couldn't find any matches) and it makes it look like alex_kir screwed up the reply.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: khaled0111 on November 26, 2018, 10:12:35 PM
Snip

What I meant is that it should look like this:

Ethereum  $499.24 - Maлeнький pывoк и мы y цeли. A дaльшe 600 и пoнecлacь. Boт этo жизнь. Ктo cлит пo 200 тoт гpycтит.
***
Ethereum  $501.68    B cPeднeм Ha кoинMapкeт.

Дa, вoт тeпepь мoжнo cтaвить гaлoчкy нaпpoтив цифpы 500 =)
Интepecнo, пoйдeт дaльшe, или тeпepь тoптaтьcя бyдeт? 500 yвидeли, xaй oбнoвили, мoжнo и дaльшe идти ;)
Hyyy... yчитывaя, чтo щa yжe 522...

Teпepь вcё зaвиcит oт биткoинa. Ecли битoк пpocядeт , тo вcё pyxнeт вмecтe c ним, a этoгo oчeнь нe xoтeлocь бы...
Эфиp, этo нe гoвнoтoкeн, кoтopый oткpыв poт cмoтpит нa биткoйн. И кoppeкция биткa мoжeт oчeнь cильнo кaтaлизиpoвaть ycкopeнный pocт эфиpa, a нe пpocaдкy. A гдe шyм, тaм и cyмacшeдший pocт..
Ecли битoк нaчнeт пaдaть , тo в пepвыe дни в пaникe бyдyт лить вce , a вoт пoтoм мoжeт эфиp кoнeчнo и cтpeльнyть , нo зa 500 yжe cxoдил- зaдaчy минимyм выпoлнил.

Битoк нaчaл кoppeкцию, я тaк дyмaю кoнeчнo, мoжeт этo oчepeднaя cтyпeнь, нo мнe кaжeтcя дoлжнa былa пpoизoйти кoppeкция и дa я дyмaю мнoгиe нaчнyт пepeкидывaть cpeдcтвa в Эфиp, пoэтoмy кaппa эфиpa мoжeт выpacти ;) A cooтвeтcтвeннo и caм эфиp.

If any one can translate it so we can see if it is coherent!


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: Xal0lex on November 26, 2018, 10:50:15 PM
IMO, this was done intentionally.

How about that additional text inside Sherwoodforest's post? It's original content (at least I couldn't find any matches) and it makes it look like alex_kir screwed up the reply.


Maybe he was mistaken. But it's just my opinion. Moreover, I have no authority to cancel the ban. This will be decided by global moderators or administrators.

If any one can translate it so we can see if it is coherent!

The text is suitable.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: alex_kir1 on November 27, 2018, 05:09:54 AM
Hello, dear administration of the forum, I am so sorry that I could not answer you immediately.

I read all the information about the possible causes of my ban and I must say that there is an error in quoting and I made it accidentally. I did not want to violate the rules of the forum and do not want to contradict you, but I think that this could happen to anyone. All my posts are original, I don’t copy and paste.

I ask you to treat for me with understanding.
I hope that global administrators could unban me.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: Xal0lex on November 27, 2018, 07:56:21 AM
It is possible to assume that it was a mistake on the part of the user and the account can be unlocked. The solution remains with administrators or global moderators. But I still don't understand how you could have made a mistake.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: alex_kir1 on November 27, 2018, 08:14:01 AM
It is possible to assume that it was a mistake on the part of the user and the account can be unlocked. The solution remains with administrators or global moderators. But I still don't understand how you could have made a mistake.
To be honest, I do not understand how this happened :-\ but if the forum moderators paid attention to this, then this is an irrefutable fact. I hope that such a mistake will be forgiven and Global Moderator @hilariousandco or other Global Moderators will unban me. What can I do for this?


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on November 27, 2018, 08:28:34 AM
It is possible to assume that it was a mistake on the part of the user and the account can be unlocked. The solution remains with administrators or global moderators. But I still don't understand how you could have made a mistake.

It happen with me one time, when you have a long quote pyramid and you try to respond from your phone/in my case/ sometimes you scroll down and you see a few empty lines and decide, OK here is the end of the message, but what actually happen is someone of the commenting has used the Enter a bit too much and you have 2-3 breaks which seems like the end of the message.

You just write there and in the mean time someone else have posted before you and you get a warning but you post your post anyway. Then you go and read the post before you and just forget to check yours.

What saved me in my case was the fact that I remove the irrelevant quotes from message, but I have deleted one opening quote tag too much, so there was one closing tag left. This tag saved my ass.

It happens some times, I'm sure i'm not the only one.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: alex_kir1 on November 27, 2018, 01:01:10 PM
I wrote PM for hilariousandco. I really hope that my message will be read and the user hilariousandco will still respond to my request.

As a result of the situation, I think that the moderators also agree that I did not deserve a ban.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: hilariousandco on November 27, 2018, 01:39:18 PM
I unbanned the account. It does look like it could be a mistake and since no others can be found I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: alex_kir on November 27, 2018, 01:43:58 PM
I unbanned the account. It does look like it could be a mistake and since no others can be found I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Thank you so much.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: Xal0lex on November 27, 2018, 09:52:22 PM
I unbanned the account. It does look like it could be a mistake and since no others can be found I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Thank you so much.

Great, sorted out. I hope you will be more attentive from now on ;)


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: alex_kir1 on December 30, 2018, 07:30:12 PM
Hello to all! Once again, moderators are blocked access to my alex_kir account. I am sure that this was done for a reason.

But I rechecked my messages for plagiarism, but found nothing. Could anyone help me figure this out and find the reason for my ban this time? Thanks for attention.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: suchmoon on December 30, 2018, 11:11:38 PM
I don't think you're gonna be able to get out of this one:

People panic sell because they invest more than what they can afford to lose and they are afraid to lose their money. It's the fact that they are new to trading and investing make it worse, if they have some experience then they will at least put a stop loss or do some analysis first before buying the asset and they won't do panic sell.
People panic sell because they invest more than what they can afford to lose and they are afraid to lose their money. It's the fact that they are new to trading and investing make it worse, if they have some experience then they will at least put a stop loss or do some analysis first before buying the asset and they won't do panic sell.



Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: Harkorede on December 30, 2018, 11:34:26 PM
I don't think you're gonna be able to get out of this one:

I'm still trying figure out what happen in this case as well, because he copied the text as response in quote to the original post, I mean why would he copy a post to reply to the same original post ? I guess OP could really be having an issue with using the "quote" option


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: suchmoon on December 30, 2018, 11:48:15 PM
I don't think you're gonna be able to get out of this one:

I'm still trying figure out what happen in this case as well, because he copied the text as response in quote to the original post, I mean why would he copy a post to reply to the same original post ? I guess OP could really be having an issue with using the "quote" option

I can understand the earlier issue. There was clearly some original content, possibly dislocated quote tags.

This new example - not so much. What kind of issue could make someone quote a post, duplicate its text, and submit it without typing any response?


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: Veleor on December 31, 2018, 03:42:02 AM
I unbanned the account. It does look like it could be a mistake and since no others can be found I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Thank you so much.

Great, sorted out. I hope you will be more attentive from now on ;)

How it is possible to make a successful appeal for unbanning and three weeks later screw it up so blatantly?  :-[


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: alex_kir1 on December 31, 2018, 05:58:46 AM
I don't think you're gonna be able to get out of this one:

I'm still trying figure out what happen in this case as well, because he copied the text as response in quote to the original post, I mean why would he copy a post to reply to the same original post ? I guess OP could really be having an issue with using the "quote" option

I can understand the earlier issue. There was clearly some original content, possibly dislocated quote tags.

This new example - not so much. What kind of issue could make someone quote a post, duplicate its text, and submit it without typing any response?

Wow, this is really a direction to plagiarism.

I will explain how this happened. The fact is that I am not a native speaker of English and in some cases it turns out that I have to copy messages in order to translate it. In this case, I copied it to the forum. Yes, I agreed looks terrible and stupid.

Without a doubt, I understand that this is completely my mistake and my stupidity. There was no idea to copy this post and put it here. I hope you understand that this is a very stupid mistake. If you pay attention, you will see that I have never had plagiarism.

Despite all this, I still hope for your forgiveness.

Thanks for attention.


Title: Re: My account was banned. Help pls.
Post by: Veleor on December 31, 2018, 07:41:49 AM
I hope you understand that this is a very stupid mistake. If you pay attention, you will see that I have never had plagiarism.

Administrator theymos (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35) will probably give you a second chance if you refuse from signature.


~ So..put me to the test!! Fuck my signature, hell ban me from it for good.  Give me a chance and I will still be here, still contributing, whether now or a year from now. Easy promise I can make/keep.

Contact theymos and see if he can implement a specific signature ban for you instead and reinstate your account. This is something he said he might implement a while ago (and I'm sure he could do individual ones now in certain cases). A signature ban would probably be more appropriate in certain situations and especially to those who are going to contribute in other ways whilst removing the possibility of earning here (which is probably a significant punishment in itself).

Maybe signatures of spammers/plagiarisers should be removed indefinitely or removed until they've achieved x amount of merit then they're reinstated. Most users probably won't bother and just abandon the account but for those who aren't here just to earn and are willing to contribute maybe that would be a sufficient penance for their 'crime'.