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Title: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: KINGandKONG on December 03, 2018, 10:38:22 PM
I have tied every possible shuffle of a deck of playing cards to a unique bitcoin address through a "2-WAY FUNCTION"!

UPDATE: Just added Real Time "256-bit Stream" True Quantum Random Number Generator to the project!

Would appreciate some feedback.

http://www.clearshuffle.com/bitcoinAddressGenerator

I'm now working on creating an open source downloadable package for off-line bitcoin address generation.

Thanks


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: KINGandKONG on December 04, 2018, 05:58:37 AM
Thanks for the feedback.

I am working on a downloadable package for off-line bitcoin address generation.


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: seoincorporation on December 04, 2018, 02:38:14 PM
I have tied every possible shuffle of a deck of playing cards to a unique bitcoin address through a "2-WAY FUNCTION"!

Would appreciate some feedback.

http://www.clearshuffle.com/bitcoinAddressGenerator

Now working on creating a downloadable package for off-line bitcoin address generation.

Thanks

How can we trust you? And how can we know you are not saving a copy from the private key in your server?

That's the problem about having a service making our addies, is hard to trust them, i know people who have lost a lot of money trusting this kind of services. So is a big risk on the user side, and big responsibility on the provider side.


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: Piggy on December 04, 2018, 03:48:52 PM
Seems quite an original idea, a part the drawbacks already mentioned.

I see in the bottom of the page it is saying "Patent pending", are you trying to to patent it or i misunderstood something?


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: 20kevin20 on December 04, 2018, 08:34:40 PM
Great idea. Apart from what the other members posted about your website, I'd also suggest trying to make it mobile friendly. From my smartphone it's kinda hard as I'm not even allowed to zoom out on it, which means I have to scroll all the time to see different parts of the website (left/right...). Keep up your great work and great job for trying to bring something new to BTC. :)


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: KINGandKONG on December 04, 2018, 09:59:00 PM
I have tied every possible shuffle of a deck of playing cards to a unique bitcoin address through a "2-WAY FUNCTION"!

Would appreciate some feedback.

http://www.clearshuffle.com/bitcoinAddressGenerator

Now working on creating a downloadable package for off-line bitcoin address generation.

Thanks

How can we trust you? And how can we know you are not saving a copy from the private key in your server?

That's the problem about having a service making our addies, is hard to trust them, i know people who have lost a lot of money trusting this kind of services. So is a big risk on the user side, and big responsibility on the provider side.

I am working on a downloadable version, which will be open source and allow users to generate Bitcoin Addresses when they are off-line. The current online version is more or less for demo and testing.


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: KINGandKONG on December 04, 2018, 10:23:53 PM
Seems quite an original idea, a part the drawbacks already mentioned.

I see in the bottom of the page it is saying "Patent pending", are you trying to to patent it or i misunderstood something?

I am working on a downloadable version, which will be open source and allow users to generate Bitcoin Addresses when they are off-line. The current online version is more or less for demo and testing.

As for the patent pending: If you see the home page http://www.clearshuffle.com/
you will see that I also have a version of this for casinos and poker sites, where they will be able to publish each shuffled deck to blockchain before the deck is dealt to the players. This will insure players that the deck was not tampered with during the hand!


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: KINGandKONG on December 05, 2018, 08:31:50 PM
Great idea. Apart from what the other members posted about your website, I'd also suggest trying to make it mobile friendly. From my smartphone it's kinda hard as I'm not even allowed to zoom out on it, which means I have to scroll all the time to see different parts of the website (left/right...). Keep up your great work and great job for trying to bring something new to BTC. :)

Thanks. Currently the site does not support the mobile version. Once I figure out a better UI for small screens, I'll make it mobile friendly.


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: 20kevin20 on December 06, 2018, 10:05:05 PM
Great idea. Apart from what the other members posted about your website, I'd also suggest trying to make it mobile friendly. From my smartphone it's kinda hard as I'm not even allowed to zoom out on it, which means I have to scroll all the time to see different parts of the website (left/right...). Keep up your great work and great job for trying to bring something new to BTC. :)

Thanks. Currently the site does not support the mobile version. Once I figure out a better UI for small screens, I'll make it mobile friendly.

If you could enable zooming on mobile somehow, it would be perfect until you find a better UI. The annoying part is when it comes to scrolling left/right because you can't zoom out to fit all the website data on the display horizontally.


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: KINGandKONG on December 08, 2018, 12:26:45 AM
Great idea. Apart from what the other members posted about your website, I'd also suggest trying to make it mobile friendly. From my smartphone it's kinda hard as I'm not even allowed to zoom out on it, which means I have to scroll all the time to see different parts of the website (left/right...). Keep up your great work and great job for trying to bring something new to BTC. :)

Thanks. Currently the site does not support the mobile version. Once I figure out a better UI for small screens, I'll make it mobile friendly.

If you could enable zooming on mobile somehow, it would be perfect until you find a better UI. The annoying part is when it comes to scrolling left/right because you can't zoom out to fit all the website data on the display horizontally.

Please take a look now. I took out some of the codes related to mobile version. You should be able to see the full menu and zoom in/out now.


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: gmaxwell on December 09, 2018, 07:16:45 AM
This site appears to connect back to the server every time a new key is entered...


People should NEVER use any key management webpage or webapp.


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: KINGandKONG on December 09, 2018, 06:07:23 PM
This site appears to connect back to the server every time a new key is entered...


People should NEVER use any key management webpage or webapp.

Currently it is server driven, used for testing, demo, and checking your Bitcoin math. The Private Key inputs, specifically warns NOT to enter your personal Private Key.

I am working on a downloadable version of what you see online, open source, where you will be able to generate Bitcoin Addresses OFF-LINE using your own computer.


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: KINGandKONG on December 14, 2018, 09:02:29 PM
Great idea. Apart from what the other members posted about your website, I'd also suggest trying to make it mobile friendly. From my smartphone it's kinda hard as I'm not even allowed to zoom out on it, which means I have to scroll all the time to see different parts of the website (left/right...). Keep up your great work and great job for trying to bring something new to BTC. :)

Thanks. Currently the site does not support the mobile version. Once I figure out a better UI for small screens, I'll make it mobile friendly.

If you could enable zooming on mobile somehow, it would be perfect until you find a better UI. The annoying part is when it comes to scrolling left/right because you can't zoom out to fit all the website data on the display horizontally.

I have checked the site on iPhone, which is showing up correctly. Does it work on Android?


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: Rath_ on December 14, 2018, 09:35:08 PM
I have checked the site on iPhone, which is showing up correctly. Does it work on Android?

Yes, it does. It works fine and displays correctly on my Galaxy S8+ which has unique screen proportions. Is there any ETA on downloadable version and SegWit support?


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: KINGandKONG on December 16, 2018, 07:50:14 PM
I have checked the site on iPhone, which is showing up correctly. Does it work on Android?

Yes, it does. It works fine and displays correctly on my Galaxy S8+ which has unique screen proportions. Is there any ETA on downloadable version and SegWit support?

Great. I am looking to add some more new features to the web app. The downloadable version would come next.

I should ask the community what should be added to the current setup!


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: midnightmagic on December 18, 2018, 12:07:55 AM
How many times are people going to get ripped off before randos posting Javascript keygenerators actually tweaks your scamdar? Even if he's not actively ripping off people who use this (and seriously? Why would you think otherwise?!) what makes you think he won't do exactly that in the near future?


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: seoincorporation on December 18, 2018, 03:51:04 AM
I have tied every possible shuffle of a deck of playing cards to a unique bitcoin address through a "2-WAY FUNCTION"!

Would appreciate some feedback.

http://www.clearshuffle.com/bitcoinAddressGenerator

Now working on creating a downloadable package for off-line bitcoin address generation.

Thanks

How can we trust you? And how can we know you are not saving a copy from the private key in your server?

That's the problem about having a service making our addies, is hard to trust them, i know people who have lost a lot of money trusting this kind of services. So is a big risk on the user side, and big responsibility on the provider side.

I am working on a downloadable version, which will be open source and allow users to generate Bitcoin Addresses when they are off-line. The current online version is more or less for demo and testing.

That would be great, i will wait for that downloadable version. please let us know when you have it ready. by the way are you using part of the vanity gen code? or some brain wallet code?


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: KINGandKONG on December 19, 2018, 09:34:55 AM
I have tied every possible shuffle of a deck of playing cards to a unique bitcoin address through a "2-WAY FUNCTION"!

Would appreciate some feedback.

http://www.clearshuffle.com/bitcoinAddressGenerator

Now working on creating a downloadable package for off-line bitcoin address generation.

Thanks

How can we trust you? And how can we know you are not saving a copy from the private key in your server?

That's the problem about having a service making our addies, is hard to trust them, i know people who have lost a lot of money trusting this kind of services. So is a big risk on the user side, and big responsibility on the provider side.

I am working on a downloadable version, which will be open source and allow users to generate Bitcoin Addresses when they are off-line. The current online version is more or less for demo and testing.

That would be great, i will wait for that downloadable version. please let us know when you have it ready. by the way are you using part of the vanity gen code? or some brain wallet code?

No, under the hood, I use Node.JS Express Socket.IO. I also use CoinKey Library, which takes care of all the math associated with Bitcoin address generation. The 2-WAY FUNCTION between sequence of cards and the Bitcoin addresses, I initially wrote in php, then re-wrote it in javascript for this project.


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: KINGandKONG on December 21, 2018, 11:00:58 PM
How many times are people going to get ripped off before randos posting Javascript keygenerators actually tweaks your scamdar? Even if he's not actively ripping off people who use this (and seriously? Why would you think otherwise?!) what makes you think he won't do exactly that in the near future?

The Bitcoin Address Generator page is mainly for developers, programmers, and others that want to double check their Bitcoin Math. The page clearly warns users NOT TO ENTER PERSONAL Private Keys.

Having said that, I am also working on a downloadable version, open source, for use by public interested in generating addresses OFF-LINE.

You should appreciate the beauty in this brand new technology!


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: KINGandKONG on December 24, 2018, 08:21:09 PM
My feedback :
1. Make your website/page open-source, no one would use bitcoin wallet/seed generator on closed-source website or/and online devices.
2. I don't know much about Human-Simulated Riffle-Shuffle/Overhead-Shuffle, but i'm sure Fisher-Yates Shuffle is pretty simple way to randomize data and isn't good source of randomness.
3. Your idea is pretty cool :)

I just added Real Time "256-bit Stream" True Quantum Random Number Generator to the project!


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: Majormax on December 26, 2018, 02:11:46 PM
How many times are people going to get ripped off before randos posting Javascript keygenerators actually tweaks your scamdar? Even if he's not actively ripping off people who use this (and seriously? Why would you think otherwise?!) what makes you think he won't do exactly that in the near future?

The Bitcoin Address Generator page is mainly for developers, programmers, and others that want to double check their Bitcoin Math. The page clearly warns users NOT TO ENTER PERSONAL Private Keys.

Having said that, I am also working on a downloadable version, open source, for use by public interested in generating addresses OFF-LINE.

You should appreciate the beauty in this brand new technology!

I don't see any market need for another random key generator. However, as you say, it is a good check on maths/other generators.

It is also attractive to ppl who have affinity for cards.


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: btc_enigma on December 27, 2018, 05:26:30 PM
Interesting. Can you explain how you are generating ECDA private key from the  current deck


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: KINGandKONG on January 02, 2019, 06:47:10 AM
Interesting. Can you explain how you are generating ECDA private key from the  current deck

I have created two math functions, one converts each sequence of cards to a unique decimal number, and the other converts a decimal number to a unique sequence of cards. Once I create the downloadable version you will be able to see the source code for the two functions. I'm trying to get a patent on this for use in the casino industry. As soon as this is done, I'll be able to publish the code.


Title: Re: New Way to Generate Bitcoin Addresses!
Post by: KINGandKONG on January 24, 2019, 05:44:11 PM
How many times are people going to get ripped off before randos posting Javascript keygenerators actually tweaks your scamdar? Even if he's not actively ripping off people who use this (and seriously? Why would you think otherwise?!) what makes you think he won't do exactly that in the near future?

The Bitcoin Address Generator page is mainly for developers, programmers, and others that want to double check their Bitcoin Math. The page clearly warns users NOT TO ENTER PERSONAL Private Keys.

Having said that, I am also working on a downloadable version, open source, for use by public interested in generating addresses OFF-LINE.

You should appreciate the beauty in this brand new technology!

I don't see any market need for another random key generator. However, as you say, it is a good check on maths/other generators.

It is also attractive to ppl who have affinity for cards.

The process does have a new market for online casinos and online poker sites. Each hand is published in the ClearShuffle Blockchain before it is dealt to players. This assures players that the deck was not tampered with before or during the hand. See the home page at ClearShuffle.