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Title: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: Newchanka on December 05, 2018, 03:23:29 PM
Your view about this slump depends on the prism through which you look. Its obviously an opportunity many are missing out on https://cryptoinfowatch.com/cyryptocurrency-whales-are-unfazed-about-losses-as-they-increase-hoard-of-coins/


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: Kemarit on December 06, 2018, 01:12:23 AM
Whales will be whales, those bagholders are not really affected by the slump because they knew that sooner or later this market will make a reversal, a bounce that can make their money grow more, so why need to sell it? So it makes sense for them to continue what they're doing for most part of this year, buy cheap coins and look at the future.

Sime77 - I think they're getting smarter some of them are lucky but for most, they have deep pockets and has the risk-taker attitude.  :)


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: pooya87 on December 06, 2018, 02:04:45 AM
i don't know why you said "whales say so", since whales are either silent and say nothing while accumulate without letting anyone know or they are the most noisy people around who try spreading FUD to force others to sell so that they can have access to cheaper prices for their accumulation.

in any case things are NOT good or bad because of what whales do. things are good because bitcoin is a solid decentralized currency which still has all of its features that made it good in first place.


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: 1993jochico on December 06, 2018, 03:13:58 AM
That what Im always saying to those who lose hope, this is not the time to panic selling but it is the time to do panic buying but its their money not us we can only give advice to them and in the end of the day it still their decision to make.


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: dothebeats on December 06, 2018, 04:41:21 AM
Whales are market movers but they certainly don't like to comment much about things. Have you seen an actual whale reveal his position and tell people how to trade? No? That's because before they make their move, they ensure that they already hold the maximum leverage they can get before they sway the markets into their favor.

Whales are not necessarily smarter.; They were just lucky to have joined the market when no one knew about it.

Nah, they have the money to make even the worst markets become better and capitalize on that to make money, so I guess that can count as smart too.


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on December 06, 2018, 04:51:32 AM
Having plenty of money to invest in cryptocurrency doesn't jut make you a whale, smartness is also required. Whales don't say anything, all they know it's their ROI. They fud for you to sell and create fomo for you to buy.
The big transfers we have been seeing of recent is not accidental. It's a plan by whales to either create more FUD or FOMO (can't conclude yet) but i know most of them knows themselves.


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: Kakmakr on December 06, 2018, 05:19:54 AM
Most of the whales got their coins when it was dirt cheap and for this argument I would use the price of say $10. So say that they bought a bunch of coins at $10 and the price is between $3000 and $4000 per coin, then I would also not be phased.

The situation gets bad when you bought at a price higher than the current price or close to it, like many investors that bought at $19 000 in 2017.

I bought at $400+, so I will only start to panic when the price goes down to $400 or below.  :P


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: Gloverwrt on December 06, 2018, 05:43:46 AM
The article hardly covers the direction of the OP's topic, and it's just an attempt to predict the strategies of whales using the movements in the wallets they know of. Considering that lots of big soenders buy OTC, it's not that easy to track their activities.

The current market situation depends in your trading strategy and view of the market. The reality is dropping prices, your assessment; time to take a break, or store up more?


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: AverageGlabella on December 06, 2018, 06:40:06 AM
i don't know why you said "whales say so", since whales are either silent and say nothing while accumulate without letting anyone know or they are the most noisy people around who try spreading FUD to force others to sell so that they can have access to cheaper prices for their accumulation.

in any case things are NOT good or bad because of what whales do. things are good because bitcoin is a solid decentralized currency which still has all of its features that made it good in first place.

Quite a few whales voice their opinions about Bitcoin and the speculate what the price will be in the future. A lot of celebrities which are invested in Bitcoin that is public knowledge will try and manipulate the market by either praising Bitcoin or rubbishing it. What you can almost guarantee from any whale when it comes to advise from them is that its likely market manipulation rather than them giving genuine thoughts about the situation.

Whales have a lot of money invested and are good at what they do for a reason. Anyone who holds a large amount of coins has the potential to affect the market by moving those coins. But they also have a lot of pulling power in the media as they control a large portion of coins and media outlets like the make a big deal whenever a famous celebrity or someone holding a large amount of coins does something minuscule such as splitting up their coins. Its almost always spinned into something negative about Bitcoin. "Oh this whale has split their coins in attempt to sell" or something stupid like that. When in fact what they are doing is being more secure by splitting their funds.

I would take anyone's advise with a pinch of salt when they are personally invested in Bitcoin and have the option of telling the media. If they are telling you one on one it might be a little difference as one person generally doesn't have the power the influence the market unless they are holding a large amount of coins. If you are holding a large amount of coins and another whale tells you what to do. Don't listen to them as its likely manipulation.

The point I'm trying to make is make your own decisions and stop relying on news and celebrities invested in Bitcoin. If you believe in Bitcoin then invest if you don't. Don't. Its really as simple as that.


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: Peacemaker1994 on December 06, 2018, 06:48:38 AM
Every whales direct there actions to what that will benefits them whales has a good influence on any coin that they are involving in well I avoid basing my conclusion to their postulation


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: drmilind2004 on December 06, 2018, 07:06:41 AM
Stop trying to second guess whales. They are termed "whales" precisely because they are mammoth, in the sense of possession of endless resources. How they manipulate or deploy these assets may or may not be a function of the intrinsic market strength, it might as well be their individual inclinations.


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: qualitywork on December 06, 2018, 07:11:00 AM
Well, these whales are very clear at this moment, they are taking advantage of the current market situation. These guys are filling their bags by buying coins in cheap prices from the panic sellers, because they have already planned for long-term investment.


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: pptIox on December 06, 2018, 07:11:28 AM
Keep in mind that the interests of whales are not always on the same boat as you.
More commonly, the whale are opponents from us, and always trying to kill us.


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: jseverson on December 06, 2018, 07:15:53 AM
This is pretty typical of any market. Drops are being propped up as an opportunity to increase holdings for less money than normal. This isn't unique to crypto, and neither is it unique to whales. Everyone can accumulate.

But yeah, everyone keeps complaining about whales manipulating the market, but when they apparently manipulate it in their favor, it's fine lmao.


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: gabmen on December 06, 2018, 05:24:50 PM
This is pretty typical of any market. Drops are being propped up as an opportunity to increase holdings for less money than normal. This isn't unique to crypto, and neither is it unique to whales. Everyone can accumulate.

But yeah, everyone keeps complaining about whales manipulating the market, but when they apparently manipulate it in their favor, it's fine lmao.

Lol. You got that right. I don't think whales would allow the market to be in such a condition where miners would think twice about mining btc or moving to other ventures. They can turn this around in a matter of days.


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on December 06, 2018, 06:51:35 PM
They can turn this around in a matter of days.
+1
Don't listen to the whales or youTube celebs. None of them are going to say that things you need for your financial security. Study, research then make you own judgement. Luckily we are living in society where information are available all around. You just need to tap the right source. 


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: pixie85 on December 06, 2018, 07:30:57 PM
There's this huge investment company that used this bear market to become the biggest institutional holder of Bitcoin in the world. They now own 1% of all the coins in circulation and are still buying. If you're scared read about the smart money. Only people who don't have much money are selling now because for them it's to be or not to be if they lose it all. Rich people are buying because they see the opportunity and if they lose some money they'll still be rich, so it's worth the risk.


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: acheampong64 on December 06, 2018, 08:50:36 PM
Yeah that's somehow true. Whales always know the game more than newbies because well, they've been in for quite sometime. Whales accumulate more and then sell to make even more profits. But well, who knows maybe the correction is over or not.


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: KingScorpio on December 06, 2018, 09:01:59 PM
Yeah that's somehow true. Whales always know the game more than newbies because well, they've been in for quite sometime. Whales accumulate more and then sell to make even more profits. But well, who knows maybe the correction is over or not.

jes bitcoinwhales care about you.... not about lambos...


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: Haticem on December 06, 2018, 09:55:18 PM
The whales are both lucky and intelligent. Lucky because; they bought very cheap bitcoins and have too many bitcoin. Smart; They've been in the market for a long time and they know everything..


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: Coyster on December 06, 2018, 10:36:08 PM
If only we can pay less attention to the fear and uncertainties spread always by this whales,then probably they may not wield as much powers as they have.
They own huge assets,yes,but they are only able to do so by spreading panic,thus a decrease in price,and more purchase for them
But the system is decentralized and as such fairly vulnerable to manipulations


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: naufals4 on December 06, 2018, 10:53:32 PM
yes in my opinion also the fall of the price of bitcoin is already a normal thing as it used to also often dropped then a few months after the price returned again even more expensive than before.


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: Yamifoud on December 06, 2018, 11:17:19 PM
Yeah that's somehow true. Whales always know the game more than newbies because well, they've been in for quite sometime. Whales accumulate more and then sell to make even more profits. But well, who knows maybe the correction is over or not.
We really don't know if this is the play of whales or just the market trend. But anyways, whales participation is really helping to the market of moving prices back and fort. But this tragic fall isn't be the cause of market manipulation made by whales but for the market itself and many investors have turn crazy and sell the coins in bulk but in low price.


Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: MaryStrain.io on December 06, 2018, 11:40:21 PM
i don't know why you said "whales say so", since whales are either silent and say nothing while accumulate without letting anyone know or they are the most noisy people around who try spreading FUD to force others to sell so that they can have access to cheaper prices for their accumulation.

in any case things are NOT good or bad because of what whales do. things are good because bitcoin is a solid decentralized currency which still has all of its features that made it good in first place.

Well said.  the untaped potential that blockchain, and bitcoin possess is still yet to be discovered.  Once that begins to happen.  The value in FIAT will increase to a valuation the likes of which we have not seen before.



Title: Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So
Post by: boakyei on December 06, 2018, 11:53:17 PM
It is an opportunity for people with more money to accumulate more coins and hold till it goes up. But if you panic sell you might regret in the near future when the price of bitcoins go up.