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Title: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: alexcopper on December 07, 2018, 10:12:50 PM
So I'm doing my research about stablecoins and so far there's 3 categories of them:

1. Fiat-backed
2. Crypto-collateralized
3. Algorithm-backed

I've been a big fan of 2 and 3, especially Fragments. What are your favorite?? Wish I had more room to include others, but from what I've seen these are the top (aside from Tether).


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: pixie85 on December 07, 2018, 10:21:39 PM
The best future stablecoin is Bitcoin. Tether is just like fiat. It's a manipulated coin, printed out of thin air, that the owners know is insolvent. The proof for that is them not wanting to audit it and faking audits by saying they are auditing themselves, which we all know is a joke. No sane CEO would say publicly that the company is auditing itself and everything is fine.


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: jossiel on December 07, 2018, 11:51:15 PM
I'll choose that's backed up with fiat. That's how stable coins should be, there's a real money behind it and it's not just printed from nowhere without any evidence if the value is really worth to its printed coin.

AFAIK, GUSD and USDC are fiat-backed stable coins.


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: BitcoinHodler on December 08, 2018, 07:47:55 AM
the fiat backed and crypto backed stable coins are similarly centralized and that makes them terrible in my opinion specially since most of the companies creating these coins are either very shady (like Bitfinex creating Tether) or are creating them to make money from processing transactions because they saw a need and trying to exploit it.

the Algorithm-backed stable coins "sound good" but i have not yet had time to study them to make up my mind. but if anything has a potential of being a valuable stablecoin it is this category of them.


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: four3200 on December 08, 2018, 07:54:09 AM
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Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: jhanson on December 10, 2018, 09:49:28 PM
The best future stablecoin is Bitcoin. Tether is just like fiat. It's a manipulated coin, printed out of thin air, that the owners know is insolvent. The proof for that is them not wanting to audit it and faking audits by saying they are auditing themselves, which we all know is a joke. No sane CEO would say publicly that the company is auditing itself and everything is fine.

Bitcoin is not a stablecoin though.... and yes tether is a crypto abomination.


I think Ampleforth is a unique solution since they have an elastic protocol to adjust supply when the market changes. This is one worth looking into. https://www.ampleforth.org/


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: akeegan on December 11, 2018, 05:20:45 PM
the fiat backed and crypto backed stable coins are similarly centralized and that makes them terrible in my opinion specially since most of the companies creating these coins are either very shady (like Bitfinex creating Tether) or are creating them to make money from processing transactions because they saw a need and trying to exploit it.

the Algorithm-backed stable coins "sound good" but i have not yet had time to study them to make up my mind. but if anything has a potential of being a valuable stablecoin it is this category of them.

Agreed. I think with algorithm backed coins it depends on how the algorithm works. In Ampleforth's case, I love their idea of an elastic supply protocol. This is from their site:

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Our protocol is simple. When Amples are trading higher than the price target, the protocol inflates to coin holders proportionally; and when Amples are trading lower than the price target, the protocol deflates from coin holders proportionally.

By adjusting supply to coin holders directly, the Ampleforth protocol avoids the devaluing effects of inflation observed in fiat currencies, while re-engaging the supply mechanism that creates near-term price stability.



Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: Tulen1990 on December 12, 2018, 09:39:48 PM
How come no one's voting?

I personally voted for Ampleforth mainly because of their value adds and how they're disintermediating central inflation. I recommend everyone read their whitepaper. Really fascinating stuff IMO.

wp - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I-NmSnQ6E7wY1nyouuf-GuDdJWNCnJWl/view


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: rmilly on December 13, 2018, 10:49:37 PM
How come no one's voting?

I personally voted for Ampleforth mainly because of their value adds and how they're disintermediating central inflation. I recommend everyone read their whitepaper. Really fascinating stuff IMO.

wp - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I-NmSnQ6E7wY1nyouuf-GuDdJWNCnJWl/view

same. Voted for ampleforth. Been pretty big today in the news but I like their model and I think they bring a good solution that the world needs to adopt crypto


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: jjbanks994 on December 18, 2018, 12:05:52 AM
Does anyone have a comparison between ampleforth and basis?


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: oioioi on December 18, 2018, 12:57:21 AM
very good. the research is very simple, is there something more interesting about the three points above?


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: chakhigh on December 18, 2018, 10:08:06 AM
I don't like many of these coins, because they are not build to stay stable for the long term. However, I would go with the current Gigzi project. This will, in my opinion, be better than many "stable coins". Because, the main goal of this project is to back crypto-assets with Gold and precious metals price, so it is more stable in the long-run. Gold has a more stable price than any other asset. So this Gigzi platform should see great success using "Tokenized Precious Materials", in the coming months..


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: Ghebung Masam on December 18, 2018, 11:21:14 AM
Ampleforth aka Fragments gets the most votes, but I am not very familiar with this stablecoin, can you give me a link about Fragments?


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: 10BTCaDay on December 18, 2018, 11:29:42 AM
I personally do not use stable coins, but if I had to choose, I would put the Crypto-collateralized in the first place


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: Ccexicocartel on December 18, 2018, 10:44:53 PM
Ampleforth aka Fragments gets the most votes, but I am not very familiar with this stablecoin, can you give me a link about Fragments?

Yup. Their website: https://www.ampleforth.org/

whitepaper: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I-NmSnQ6E7wY1nyouuf-GuDdJWNCnJWl/view



Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: X-ray on December 18, 2018, 10:54:13 PM
Ampleforth aka Fragments gets the most votes, but I am not very familiar with this stablecoin, can you give me a link about Fragments?

Yup. Their website: https://www.ampleforth.org/

whitepaper: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I-NmSnQ6E7wY1nyouuf-GuDdJWNCnJWl/view


Just curious about which one of them that has already created or published the transparency about how much-reserved funds available in the hot wallet?
I don't even think if this one should be mentioned https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/synthetix-network-token/
Only fiat backed can still remain stable on its value.


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: Ghebung Masam on December 19, 2018, 04:34:58 AM
Ampleforth aka Fragments gets the most votes, but I am not very familiar with this stablecoin, can you give me a link about Fragments?

Yup. Their website: https://www.ampleforth.org/

whitepaper: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I-NmSnQ6E7wY1nyouuf-GuDdJWNCnJWl/view


thanks for the help, I was just curious because there were many people who chose it. okay, I will immediately see and check it out.


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: Zero1One0 on December 19, 2018, 05:12:46 AM
I'm going for TUSD or USDC for dollar denominated stable coin. Using a stable coin pegged to USD preserved the value of my portfolio in this bear market.


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: ccryptopark on December 19, 2018, 10:20:44 PM
I'm going for TUSD or USDC for dollar denominated stable coin. Using a stable coin pegged to USD preserved the value of my portfolio in this bear market.

Thoughts on ampleforth's model? That would be great for remittance and trading too. Read about their model on their site: https://www.ampleforth.org/


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: vorobev on December 26, 2018, 09:07:15 PM
funny to see that not a lot of people voted. could it be that there's a huge onslaught of stablecoins in the market? How can we tell good stablecoins like ampleforth from terrible ones like tether?


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: shad_ow90 on December 27, 2018, 01:34:37 PM
So I'm doing my research about stablecoins and so far there's 3 categories of them:

1. Fiat-backed
2. Crypto-collateralized
3. Algorithm-backed

I've been a big fan of 2 and 3, especially Fragments. What are your favorite?? Wish I had more room to include others, but from what I've seen these are the top (aside from Tether).

More and more stablecoins are created and guaranteed by big foundations but general in the future, these coins will be controled by them and be very centralized. I think when this market is more stable, Bitcoin will be the best stable coin


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: gorbabtc on December 27, 2018, 07:51:32 PM
So I'm doing my research about stablecoins and so far there's 3 categories of them:

1. Fiat-backed
2. Crypto-collateralized
3. Algorithm-backed

I've been a big fan of 2 and 3, especially Fragments. What are your favorite?? Wish I had more room to include others, but from what I've seen these are the top (aside from Tether).

More and more stablecoins are created and guaranteed by big foundations but general in the future, these coins will be controled by them and be very centralized. I think when this market is more stable, Bitcoin will be the best stable coin

bitcoin will never be a stablecoin lol. we have to look into less centralized options like ampleforth since they have a smart contract that inflates or deflates the supply based on market demand


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: blokklanc on December 27, 2018, 09:36:15 PM
I am favoring the  option 3  which is algorithm backed stable coins like DAI. I like how the incentivising  mechanism solution works.
It is decentralized and this is why I prefer DAI.


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: dekabrin on January 03, 2019, 10:59:23 PM
I am favoring the  option 3  which is algorithm backed stable coins like DAI. I like how the incentivising  mechanism solution works.
It is decentralized and this is why I prefer DAI.

have you looked into ampleforth? algorithmic but has an interesting twist. https://www.ampleforth.org/


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: DanWalker on January 03, 2019, 11:42:25 PM
Currently I use Tether (35%), Paxos (15%), USDC (15%), TUSD (27%), GUSD (8%). I don't think that we should have the only one favorite stablecoin. It's unpredictable market and as investors we should deversify the capital as much as possible.


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: batang_bitcoin on January 04, 2019, 12:20:11 AM
Currently I use Tether (35%), Paxos (15%), USDC (15%), TUSD (27%), GUSD (8%). I don't think that we should have the only one favorite stablecoin. It's unpredictable market and as investors we should deversify the capital as much as possible.
What's the sense of diversifying to different stable coins?


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: artamon on January 04, 2019, 11:09:17 PM
Currently I use Tether (35%), Paxos (15%), USDC (15%), TUSD (27%), GUSD (8%). I don't think that we should have the only one favorite stablecoin. It's unpredictable market and as investors we should deversify the capital as much as possible.
What's the sense of diversifying to different stable coins?

Yea I'm curious too...

I'm really just waiting on Ampleforth to lauch tbh lol.


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: ElenaN on January 05, 2019, 10:21:27 AM
I do not see any prospects in stable coins, as it seems to me, they would very well be suitable for replacing fiat money, but this will most likely be more interesting for governments!


Title: Re: Ultimate stablecoin vote
Post by: elite2291 on January 08, 2019, 11:29:13 PM
...well I guess it's time to take basis out of the running lol  :P

my vote is for ampleforth