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Title: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: bitcoinfuck on December 07, 2018, 10:59:44 PM to all panic sellers,
WHO AM I ? 1> HODLER 2> Guy who lost 80% + on alt coins [around 130 BTC ] [ means not only btc price is going down, the amount of bitcoin i hold are going down too] 3> my mining farm is not able to cope even my daily expenses [ yes i am mining and i will keep mining no matter what] Facts : 1> btc is down, accept it. 2> btc is down for everyone, 10000s guys like you have there money in it, you are not alone 3> so you say that you are down 70% down on your investment, how can you be down if you not sell, you bough XXX btc, which is same amount now. 4> market is not stupid for every guy selling = there is one guy buying Understand this if there is no trust in crypto world then market would simply go to zero if it fell even 10%, everyone would start selling if they don't believe, and no one will buy it. 5> this forum is being manipulated by fake panic creating posts, by newbies accounts. 6> BTC trading is banned in INDIA, CHINA and people are still investing. cause our governments are corrupt. 7> all small nations are already full into crypto, people simple don't trust centralized money distributions 8> binance, bittrex, bitfinex are largest bitcoin exchanges, they don't make money in $$$ dollars, they make profit in crypto, did they shut down there website ? no because its been used now more then over. [ they own top 10 biggest balance bitcoin addresses, are they selling ? no] 9> everyday lots of applications and companies are implementing crypto, so forget the price, use case is exponentially growing REMEMBER : MARKETING TIP if you ever wanted to exit a market leave when it goes 20%-30% down, and that time is long gone, so the best a& wise decision is to hodl and smile at these whales manipulation to buy bitcoin lower Whats Best Now ? 1> open you exchange place sell order at 7X Amount you bought, and enjoy movies and games for a while. 2> Hold on before investing in ICO at the moment. COINS you should trust: 1> minable [POS POW etc etc] 2> not centralized here is the full list, https://coinmarketcap.com/coins/views/filter-non-mineable/ dump rest of centralized shit Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: bitcoinfuck on December 08, 2018, 12:43:53 AM -----------i am trying to get positive content here-----------------reserved
Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: acarli on December 08, 2018, 12:55:24 AM ...... 8> binance, bittrex, bitfinex are largest bitcoin exchanges, they don't make money in $$$ dollars, they make profit in crypto, did they shut down there website ? no because its been used now more then over. [ they own top 10 biggest balance bitcoin addresses, are they selling ? no] .... I didn't know that. That was the "ah ha " one for me. Thank you for that. I didn't know that they help so much. If they didn't have faith then they would be dumping as well. Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: btc-room101 on December 08, 2018, 01:21:29 AM to all panic sellers, WHO AM I ? 1> HODLER 2> Guy who lost 80% + on alt coins [around 130 BTC ] [ means not only btc price is going down, the amount of bitcoin i hold are going down too] 3> my mining farm is not able to cope even my daily expenses [ yes i am mining and i will keep mining no matter what] Facts : 1> btc is down, accept it. 2> btc is down for everyone, 10000s guys like you have there money in it, you are not alone 3> so you say that you are down 70% down on your investment, how can you be down if you not sell, you bough XXX btc, which is same amount now. 4> market is not stupid for every guy selling = there is one guy buying Understand this if there is no trust in crypto world then market would simply go to zero if it fell even 10%, everyone would start selling if they don't believe, and no one will buy it. 5> this forum is being manipulated by fake panic creating posts, by newbies accounts. 6> BTC trading is banned in INDIA, CHINA and people are still investing. cause our governments are corrupt. 7> all small nations are already full into crypto, people simple don't trust centralized money distributions 8> binance, bittrex, bitfinex are largest bitcoin exchanges, they don't make money in $$$ dollars, they make profit in crypto, did they shut down there website ? no because its been used now more then over. [ they own top 10 biggest balance bitcoin addresses, are they selling ? no] 9> everyday lots of applications and companies are implementing crypto, so forget the price, use case is exponentially growing REMEMBER : MARKETING TIP if you ever wanted to exit a market leave when it goes 20%-30% down, and that time is long gone, so the best a& wise decision is to hodl and smile at these whales manipulation to buy bitcoin lower Whats Best Now ? 1> open you exchange place sell order at 7X Amount you bought, and enjoy movies and games for a while. 2> Hold on before investing in ICO at the moment. 3> dump shit coins, that are not minable COINS you should trust: 1> minable 2> not centralized here is the full list, https://coinmarketcap.com/coins/views/filter-non-mineable/ dump rest of centerlized shit I think you have lost it some where, but now you can't find it First of all there is NO MINABLE coin now, as no mining is profitable, all mining is now > than cost of electricity, so you want to mine and lose money? More power to you, this is an idiot game, a MINE doesn't mine GOLD unless there is a profit to be made. So mining is no longer 'mining' now its just 'wasting electricity, and losing money' Your other point 'centralization', what a joke, all MINERS are made by one company BITMAIN, and all mining hardware call's home through MAMA-BITMAIN, and uses their mining-pools, so what in the HELL do you mean when you talk 'centralization', everything has been centralized for years, there isn't any minable, non-centralized crypto on this planet. Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: bitcoinfuck on December 08, 2018, 01:33:29 AM to all panic sellers, WHO AM I ? 1> HODLER 2> Guy who lost 80% + on alt coins [around 130 BTC ] [ means not only btc price is going down, the amount of bitcoin i hold are going down too] 3> my mining farm is not able to cope even my daily expenses [ yes i am mining and i will keep mining no matter what] Facts : 1> btc is down, accept it. 2> btc is down for everyone, 10000s guys like you have there money in it, you are not alone 3> so you say that you are down 70% down on your investment, how can you be down if you not sell, you bough XXX btc, which is same amount now. 4> market is not stupid for every guy selling = there is one guy buying Understand this if there is no trust in crypto world then market would simply go to zero if it fell even 10%, everyone would start selling if they don't believe, and no one will buy it. 5> this forum is being manipulated by fake panic creating posts, by newbies accounts. 6> BTC trading is banned in INDIA, CHINA and people are still investing. cause our governments are corrupt. 7> all small nations are already full into crypto, people simple don't trust centralized money distributions 8> binance, bittrex, bitfinex are largest bitcoin exchanges, they don't make money in $$$ dollars, they make profit in crypto, did they shut down there website ? no because its been used now more then over. [ they own top 10 biggest balance bitcoin addresses, are they selling ? no] 9> everyday lots of applications and companies are implementing crypto, so forget the price, use case is exponentially growing REMEMBER : MARKETING TIP if you ever wanted to exit a market leave when it goes 20%-30% down, and that time is long gone, so the best a& wise decision is to hodl and smile at these whales manipulation to buy bitcoin lower Whats Best Now ? 1> open you exchange place sell order at 7X Amount you bought, and enjoy movies and games for a while. 2> Hold on before investing in ICO at the moment. 3> dump shit coins, that are not minable COINS you should trust: 1> minable 2> not centralized here is the full list, https://coinmarketcap.com/coins/views/filter-non-mineable/ dump rest of centerlized shit I think you have lost it some where, but now you can't find it First of all there is NO MINABLE coin now, as no mining is profitable, all mining is now > than cost of electricity, so you want to mine and lose money? More power to you, this is an idiot game, a MINE doesn't mine GOLD unless there is a profit to be made. So mining is no longer 'mining' now its just 'wasting electricity, and losing money' Your other point 'centralization', what a joke, all MINERS are made by one company BITMAIN, and all mining hardware call's home through MAMA-BITMAIN, and uses their mining-pools, so what in the HELL do you mean when you talk 'centralization', everything has been centralized for years, there isn't any minable, non-centralized crypto on this planet. what i meant was minable = decentralized depended on number of nodes this is why i said dump the centralized shit, not dump the tokens, and pos Example => waves = minable for me ripple = shitcoin for me got the example ? Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: bitcoinfuck on December 08, 2018, 01:42:13 AM ...... 8> binance, bittrex, bitfinex are largest bitcoin exchanges, they don't make money in $$$ dollars, they make profit in crypto, did they shut down there website ? no because its been used now more then over. [ they own top 10 biggest balance bitcoin addresses, are they selling ? no] .... I didn't know that. That was the "ah ha " one for me. Thank you for that. I didn't know that they help so much. If they didn't have faith then they would be dumping as well. don't forget big casino like primedice stake, all use bitcoin, did they ran ? no they implemented more and more cryptos to there space. :) :) :) :) Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: jemarleon on December 08, 2018, 04:30:30 AM Nice Analyzation I admire your trust in bitcoin.
3> so you say that you are down 70% down on your investment, how can you be down if you not sell, you bough XXX btc, which is same amount now. This is what they dont think every investors must think like this.Dont look at the price equivalent on your investments. 4> market is not stupid Those 2 lines are technically right and well explained.for every guy selling = there is one guy buying Investors must read this topic, thanks for the OP to enlighten some people who are giving up. Bitcoin's needs us more in this kind of situation, dont panic sell and after seeing the price is recovering you will buy again at high price then sell it on low price you are just wasting money. Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: kraft2009 on December 08, 2018, 05:08:36 AM Just another hodler's mantra
Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: jpgrygus on December 08, 2018, 05:16:44 AM Good call. Im surprised anyone is selling now considering (I'm guessing) most people would've bought at much higher prices. In addition, prices now are way below break even point for miners. At one point I was $45k in profit.....now my original investment is in the red. No worries, this is long(er) term for me....most probably for young sons in the future. Its going to take a couple of years until it recovers to anything decent.....fingers crossed for some 'good news' on the horizon. just ride it out. If anything buy more now so you're getting in at bargain basement prices and watch your profits rise as Bitcoin grows in the future.
Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: Herbert2020 on December 08, 2018, 05:17:30 AM you have some good points here specially the thing about selling when it is still early (20% drop) and not selling when it is already too late and price is near the bottom!
but i don't like your categorization of coins to trust based on their mineability. there are lots of mineable shitcoins and there are a lot of not-mineable coins that are good projects. you can't just set aside some coin because it is not mineable or is not PoS or giving you passive profit. not to mention that when it comes to profit and investing, none of these matter when it comes to altcoins. they are profitable as long as they get pumped. Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: partysaurus on December 08, 2018, 05:20:33 AM to all panic sellers, WHO AM I ? 1> HODLER 2> Guy who lost 80% + on alt coins [around 130 BTC ] [ means not only btc price is going down, the amount of bitcoin i hold are going down too] 3> my mining farm is not able to cope even my daily expenses [ yes i am mining and i will keep mining no matter what] Facts : 1> btc is down, accept it. 2> btc is down for everyone, 10000s guys like you have there money in it, you are not alone 3> so you say that you are down 70% down on your investment, how can you be down if you not sell, you bough XXX btc, which is same amount now. 4> market is not stupid for every guy selling = there is one guy buying Understand this if there is no trust in crypto world then market would simply go to zero if it fell even 10%, everyone would start selling if they don't believe, and no one will buy it. 5> this forum is being manipulated by fake panic creating posts, by newbies accounts. 6> BTC trading is banned in INDIA, CHINA and people are still investing. cause our governments are corrupt. 7> all small nations are already full into crypto, people simple don't trust centralized money distributions 8> binance, bittrex, bitfinex are largest bitcoin exchanges, they don't make money in $$$ dollars, they make profit in crypto, did they shut down there website ? no because its been used now more then over. [ they own top 10 biggest balance bitcoin addresses, are they selling ? no] 9> everyday lots of applications and companies are implementing crypto, so forget the price, use case is exponentially growing REMEMBER : MARKETING TIP if you ever wanted to exit a market leave when it goes 20%-30% down, and that time is long gone, so the best a& wise decision is to hodl and smile at these whales manipulation to buy bitcoin lower Whats Best Now ? 1> open you exchange place sell order at 7X Amount you bought, and enjoy movies and games for a while. 2> Hold on before investing in ICO at the moment. COINS you should trust: 1> minable [POS POW etc etc] 2> not centralized here is the full list, https://coinmarketcap.com/coins/views/filter-non-mineable/ dump rest of centralized shit you make alot of valid points and this post can help alot of people with what is next with their investments , thanks! Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: Zin-Zang on December 08, 2018, 05:22:26 AM to all panic sellers, WHO AM I ? 1> HODLER 2> Guy who lost 80% + on alt coins [around 130 BTC ] [ means not only btc price is going down, the amount of bitcoin i hold are going down too] 3> my mining farm is not able to cope even my daily expenses [ yes i am mining and i will keep mining no matter what] No you won't, at some point losing money on a consistent basis will Break YOU! And you will quit mining because the electric company cut power to your ASICS. Known Design flaw in PoW, ever increasing input costs. Facts : for every guy selling = there is one guy buying Actually No, More are Selling than Buying. If the sellers=buyers the price would be stable, it is going down so the sellers outnumber the buyers. COINS you should trust: 1> minable [POS POW etc etc] 2> not centralized You're close with this one, but it needs clarification. Only Trust Coins, that you can mine or stake and if need be : keep the entire network running yourself without help from others. Any Coin that you can't personally make sure the network stays up (and can afford to do so forever) is just a gamble by you that a 3rd party won't fuck you over. 8) Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: Kakmakr on December 08, 2018, 05:34:35 AM I do admire the fact that you lost that amount of money on shitcoins and that you are still interested and supportive of Bitcoin. Most people in your situation would have turned "Buttcoiner" by now and they would have trashed posted this forum.
My perception of Bitcoin has not changed, since I bought bitcoins for the first time. I bought bitcoins with the goal being that it would be a long-term investment. <Years, not months> and I follow the 80/20 rule of hoarding 80% of my new coins and using 20% of them as a daily "currency". This has worked out very well for me, because I made a shite load of profits in 2017. ;) Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: Zin-Zang on December 08, 2018, 05:41:18 AM I do admire the fact that you lost that amount of money on shitcoins and that you are still interested and supportive of Bitcoin. Most people in your situation would have turned "Buttcoiner" by now and they would have trashed posted this forum. My perception of Bitcoin has not changed, since I bought bitcoins for the first time. I bought bitcoins with the goal being that it would be a long-term investment. <Years, not months> and I follow the 80/20 rule of hoarding 80% of my new coins and using 20% of them as a daily "currency". This has worked out very well for me, because I made a shite load of profits in 2017. ;) Your 2017 profits directly off of the people that used cc debt and took out mortgages and now can't pay them back. You are the winner at their expense. While they became the losers because no greater fools came in behind them. What people forget, is for their to be winners in a trading markets , their also has to be losers. Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: wewe123 on December 08, 2018, 07:05:08 AM This could really be the feelings of crypto holders who are really new in this kind of investnents , they feel troubled ,sometimes panic but this is normal to customers of crypto that they will experienced this kind of woories especially this current market falldown, but for relieve they can read and understand the advices of the experienced old members of this organizations.
Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: Zin-Zang on December 08, 2018, 07:10:58 AM If you really want to Panic ,
Read This => https://www.trustnodes.com/2018/12/06/chinese-miners-have-become-the-biggest-crypto-short-sellers-says-local-media Chinese Miners are Shorting Bitcoin down to ZERO! If the Miners have no faith in it, only the stupid are still supporting it. Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: Kopyleft on December 08, 2018, 07:19:42 AM if there is no trust in crypto world then market would simply go to zero if it fell even 10%, everyone would start selling if they don't believe, and no one will buy it. This is correct, Bitcoin has no financial support or regulations from any quater or sector. People's opinion of it determines it's value. But this opinion (trust preferably) is built by progress in the network and advancements in the technology and not 'beleive' as most optimists preach. Hodling is difficult, especially in crash periods, with no end in sight. Instead of simply hodling, you could pick up a few tips and try active trading. Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: btc-room101 on December 08, 2018, 07:37:43 AM If you really want to Panic , Read This => https://www.trustnodes.com/2018/12/06/chinese-miners-have-become-the-biggest-crypto-short-sellers-says-local-media Chinese Miners are Shorting Bitcoin down to ZERO! If the Miners have no faith in it, only the stupid are still supporting it. These MINERS are the people with all the shit-coin, They're the reason the entire space is down 90%, and they own +90%, when they're done, nothing left but HODL'ers, probably retarded white hairlips Just like 51% bullshit, hell if you want to get technical, this site is hosted by amazon, which is tied to alibaba, which is owned by jack-ma, who owns all the pools and miners, and mining ops, if you want to get weird u might even want to speculate that this entire 'HODL' was orchestrated by the OWNERS all along, including the post 2014 "HODL" narrative. Lastly, MINING is KAPUT, miners if they're smart sell because mining is no longer profitable, and it ain't mining anymore when your losing money, a 'real mining operation' only mines when he's getting more gold from the ground, than the cost to extract that gold, once he can't make 2x ROI the mine shuts down. So now we can clearly see that running bitcoin 'miners' ain't mining, its just heating the house ( very inefficiently ) IMHO the chinese ultra-rich (jack ma) who own all the crypto's by the fact they own all the miners, have all along sold-out as they mined, but they told the HODL-HAIRLIP to HODL the bag, now with MINING DEAD, and game-over, the end is near GOOD NEWS in case you didn't know, in the last two years BITMAIN pulled out of mining, and got into ML, now they sell cameras that read faces and ID people, and that is their biggest business in China, ... they also sell DRONES that do the same thing, and LEO runs them in USA, its a business for BITMAIN that's bigger than CRYPTO It's over, but don't tell the HAIR-LIP, tell him to HODL to zero Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: antisocial77 on December 08, 2018, 07:53:01 AM you are right but everyone make order for profit and everyone's prediction and pshylogy is different.i think its going to fall more and i sell, you read the graphic and decided its going to move up, you buy.thats how market works.
Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: Dondont on December 08, 2018, 12:27:49 PM you are right but everyone make order for profit and everyone's prediction and pshylogy is different.i think its going to fall more and i sell, you read the graphic and decided its going to move up, you buy.thats how market works. so indeed when the market is in a bad condition, a person's mental and psychology will change drastically, previously planning for longterm but seeing conditions like this, he immediately tried to sell even though loss was only to secure assets. If they wait for market recover to get a better price, that is not worth it Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: demenBTC on December 08, 2018, 03:09:46 PM you are right but everyone make order for profit and everyone's prediction and pshylogy is different.i think its going to fall more and i sell, you read the graphic and decided its going to move up, you buy.thats how market works. so indeed when the market is in a bad condition, a person's mental and psychology will change drastically, previously planning for longterm but seeing conditions like this, he immediately tried to sell even though loss was only to secure assets. If they wait for market recover to get a better price, that is not worth it Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: BrewMaster on December 08, 2018, 03:26:10 PM you are right but everyone make order for profit and everyone's prediction and pshylogy is different.i think its going to fall more and i sell, you read the graphic and decided its going to move up, you buy.thats how market works. so indeed when the market is in a bad condition, a person's mental and psychology will change drastically, previously planning for longterm but seeing conditions like this, he immediately tried to sell even though loss was only to secure assets. If they wait for market recover to get a better price, that is not worth it this is only showing once again who invested in bitcoin irrationally and emotionally and who invested in bitcoin after extensive research and because of its technology and the potential that it has. the first group are the ones that usually invest a lot too, and they always panic. and the second group is always investing more logical amounts that they can afford to lose and never panic. people should try to be in the second group! Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: mahibul49 on December 08, 2018, 03:30:46 PM i have read your thread analysis and i am really admire and yes you are right and we know that market will be ok very soon.people trust bitcoin thats why they are buying.
Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: Coyster on December 08, 2018, 03:35:22 PM As long as one invested properly and not out of greed, hodling on should not pose much of a grave problem,i think those who are really panicking are those who invested a ton more than they can actually lose.
@OP thread really shows in depth knowledge of the system and I think everyone should key into what was said in the thread It's all about being patient,bitcoin isn't ending as most people want us to believe,it actually just got started Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: izanagi narukami on December 08, 2018, 03:36:32 PM Actually I'm still on profit because I play btc when the value still $ 299/btc , 4 years ago.
When the value reach almost $ 20.000 , I'm just sell 0.05 on $ 17.500 and still hold the rest because I believe it could be higher and the fact says the opposite. Do I still hold the rest ? Yes, because I'm an investor ! Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: adzino on December 08, 2018, 03:40:11 PM i have read your thread analysis and i am really admire and yes you are right and we know that market will be ok very soon.people trust bitcoin thats why they are buying. This is the actual problem where people think that the price of bitcoin is assigned by their "believe"/"trust". Everyone "believes" on bitcoin and other crypto currencies. They "believe" that the price will increase. But what are they doing to help the value of crypto currencies to increase other than just investing and sitting on the corner? Just believing won't help us in anyway. We should come forward and help to develop the full potential of crypto currencies as much as possible.Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: noormcs5 on December 08, 2018, 04:25:36 PM to all panic sellers, WHO AM I ? 1> HODLER 2> Guy who lost 80% + on alt coins [around 130 BTC ] [ means not only btc price is going down, the amount of bitcoin i hold are going down too] 3> my mining farm is not able to cope even my daily expenses [ yes i am mining and i will keep mining no matter what] Facts : 1> btc is down, accept it. 2> btc is down for everyone, 10000s guys like you have there money in it, you are not alone 3> so you say that you are down 70% down on your investment, how can you be down if you not sell, you bough XXX btc, which is same amount now. 4> market is not stupid for every guy selling = there is one guy buying Understand this if there is no trust in crypto world then market would simply go to zero if it fell even 10%, everyone would start selling if they don't believe, and no one will buy it. 5> this forum is being manipulated by fake panic creating posts, by newbies accounts. 6> BTC trading is banned in INDIA, CHINA and people are still investing. cause our governments are corrupt. 7> all small nations are already full into crypto, people simple don't trust centralized money distributions 8> binance, bittrex, bitfinex are largest bitcoin exchanges, they don't make money in $$$ dollars, they make profit in crypto, did they shut down there website ? no because its been used now more then over. [ they own top 10 biggest balance bitcoin addresses, are they selling ? no] 9> everyday lots of applications and companies are implementing crypto, so forget the price, use case is exponentially growing REMEMBER : MARKETING TIP if you ever wanted to exit a market leave when it goes 20%-30% down, and that time is long gone, so the best a& wise decision is to hodl and smile at these whales manipulation to buy bitcoin lower Whats Best Now ? 1> open you exchange place sell order at 7X Amount you bought, and enjoy movies and games for a while. 2> Hold on before investing in ICO at the moment. 3> dump shit coins, that are not minable COINS you should trust: 1> minable 2> not centralized here is the full list, https://coinmarketcap.com/coins/views/filter-non-mineable/ dump rest of centerlized shit I think you have lost it some where, but now you can't find it First of all there is NO MINABLE coin now, as no mining is profitable, all mining is now > than cost of electricity, so you want to mine and lose money? More power to you, this is an idiot game, a MINE doesn't mine GOLD unless there is a profit to be made. So mining is no longer 'mining' now its just 'wasting electricity, and losing money' Your other point 'centralization', what a joke, all MINERS are made by one company BITMAIN, and all mining hardware call's home through MAMA-BITMAIN, and uses their mining-pools, so what in the HELL do you mean when you talk 'centralization', everything has been centralized for years, there isn't any minable, non-centralized crypto on this planet. what i meant was minable = decentralized depended on number of nodes this is why i said dump the centralized shit, not dump the tokens, and pos Example => waves = minable for me ripple = shitcoin for me got the example ? Ripple although is centralized but yet it is at number 2 position right now. Even though i also do not like Ripple but still i trade ripple often and get good profits. The reason is that there are many forces behind ripple which keep on pumping ripple at regular intervals. Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: Scharfenberger on December 08, 2018, 05:28:03 PM Well, it is good someone has tried to make sense of the situation and even shared his ideas to public. Some points ARE really valuable.
Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: TheLoser on December 08, 2018, 06:09:33 PM i have read your thread analysis and i am really admire and yes you are right and we know that market will be ok very soon.people trust bitcoin thats why they are buying. This is the actual problem where people think that the price of bitcoin is assigned by their "believe"/"trust". Everyone "believes" on bitcoin and other crypto currencies. They "believe" that the price will increase. But what are they doing to help the value of crypto currencies to increase other than just investing and sitting on the corner? Just believing won't help us in anyway. We should come forward and help to develop the full potential of crypto currencies as much as possible.Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: aoluain on December 08, 2018, 06:16:17 PM Good points by the OP.
A lot of people need to realise that you havent lost anything as long as you dont sell at a loss, even stock market traders know this. It is not unique to crypto. Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: daweller1 on December 08, 2018, 06:20:28 PM Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: kelz1 on December 08, 2018, 06:36:26 PM Everyone from hodlers to investors to miners are losing coins now. The only smart thing to do is to convert it to stable coins, but that should have been done weeks ago. Bit late now i'm afraid
Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: towi078 on December 08, 2018, 06:50:21 PM Basically there are many indicators that show that bitcoin will not die. But many of us don't pay attention to it, maybe because it's too panic
Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: btcluisdiki on December 08, 2018, 11:11:34 PM I agree with OP's statements and with the current market condition of btc, I would say people are now affected with the market crush and most likely prefer to hold their btc until it may recover again. The current situation is a reverse of what had happened last year and most probably there will be no bull market this month as everyone was expecting to happen. In such case, if market condition will continuously drop, need to use their btc for their payment transaction so that btc will continue to evolve in the market.
Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: zhengqi on December 08, 2018, 11:27:52 PM You're right. Now it makes no sense to fix the loss, because we have already lost too much. We must continue to believe in crypto. Or learn to trade to make a profit even in this situation in the market.
Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: bolbau on December 09, 2018, 12:14:42 AM well with you explaining how much you have lost in crypto it is enough to prove that this industry is very dangerous and risky for investors, especially beginners. but I really appreciate your trust in bitcoin, your analysis of what is happening in the bitcoin market can be said to be true, but your advice only applies to fellow holders, while investors who are just entering the market need more mature consideration than trust.
Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: Vongola on December 09, 2018, 12:22:05 AM Do I still hold the rest ? Yes, because I'm an investor ! I'm same with OP. I'm prefer go big or go home, that's no make sense if we sell our coin now, it's already too late though. Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: Wingleness on December 09, 2018, 01:47:13 PM to all panic sellers, WHO AM I ? 1> HODLER 2> Guy who lost 80% + on alt coins [around 130 BTC ] [ means not only btc price is going down, the amount of bitcoin i hold are going down too] 3> my mining farm is not able to cope even my daily expenses [ yes i am mining and i will keep mining no matter what] Facts : 1> btc is down, accept it. 2> btc is down for everyone, 10000s guys like you have there money in it, you are not alone 3> so you say that you are down 70% down on your investment, how can you be down if you not sell, you bough XXX btc, which is same amount now. 4> market is not stupid for every guy selling = there is one guy buying Understand this if there is no trust in crypto world then market would simply go to zero if it fell even 10%, everyone would start selling if they don't believe, and no one will buy it. 5> this forum is being manipulated by fake panic creating posts, by newbies accounts. 6> BTC trading is banned in INDIA, CHINA and people are still investing. cause our governments are corrupt. 7> all small nations are already full into crypto, people simple don't trust centralized money distributions 8> binance, bittrex, bitfinex are largest bitcoin exchanges, they don't make money in $$$ dollars, they make profit in crypto, did they shut down there website ? no because its been used now more then over. [ they own top 10 biggest balance bitcoin addresses, are they selling ? no] 9> everyday lots of applications and companies are implementing crypto, so forget the price, use case is exponentially growing REMEMBER : MARKETING TIP if you ever wanted to exit a market leave when it goes 20%-30% down, and that time is long gone, so the best a& wise decision is to hodl and smile at these whales manipulation to buy bitcoin lower Whats Best Now ? 1> open you exchange place sell order at 7X Amount you bought, and enjoy movies and games for a while. 2> Hold on before investing in ICO at the moment. COINS you should trust: 1> minable [POS POW etc etc] 2> not centralized here is the full list, https://coinmarketcap.com/coins/views/filter-non-mineable/ dump rest of centralized shit This is well detailed and very useful info that is worth passing round for others, especially newbies to get enlightened. Lots of FUD clouding the community at the moment thereby hiding the good news going on. Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: Amevalentine on December 09, 2018, 01:58:10 PM ...... 8> binance, bittrex, bitfinex are largest bitcoin exchanges, they don't make money in $$$ dollars, they make profit in crypto, did they shut down there website ? no because its been used now more then over. [ they own top 10 biggest balance bitcoin addresses, are they selling ? no] .... I didn't know that. That was the "ah ha " one for me. Thank you for that. I didn't know that they help so much. If they didn't have faith then they would be dumping as well. Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: jake zyrus on December 09, 2018, 02:30:31 PM i have read your thread analysis and i am really admire and yes you are right and we know that market will be ok very soon.people trust bitcoin thats why they are buying. Investors have trust and believed in bitcoin it will recover in the market very soon. It's better now to collect more coins and hold and invest it cause one day you're investment it grows in high profitable income. Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: bounceback on December 09, 2018, 03:03:52 PM i have read your thread analysis and i am really admire and yes you are right and we know that market will be ok very soon.people trust bitcoin thats why they are buying. Investors have trust and believed in bitcoin it will recover in the market very soon. It's better now to collect more coins and hold and invest it cause one day you're investment it grows in high profitable income. Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: pixie85 on December 09, 2018, 03:19:52 PM I do the same thing in this market. I'm a newbie compared to some of the people who were here in 2013 -15 bear market, but I read about it and chose my strategy when I first bought Bitcoins. I told myself that I will be very cautious at first and try to get all the invested fiat money back as soon as possible, and then hold. I'm selling only when the price is on the rise and hold when it goes down. It's the game of patience. The impatient ones will sell when it's going down because they need fiat money. I don't need fiat, I can live without a new car or a new house.
Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: Cacingkemi on December 09, 2018, 03:28:19 PM Articles that trigger positive thoughts for people panic,well are very good explaining in reality the state that prohibits crypto is still used by everyone who is there.The FUD article about the fall of BTC all triggered panic and they were trapped in a dump taken by the FUD spreader,by the way I agreed on your thread to develop positive thinking for panic people.
Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: bitcoinfuck on December 28, 2018, 04:19:11 PM Articles that trigger positive thoughts for people panic,well are very good explaining in reality the state that prohibits crypto is still used by everyone who is there.The FUD article about the fall of BTC all triggered panic and they were trapped in a dump taken by the FUD spreader,by the way I agreed on your thread to develop positive thinking for panic people. yes thanks, not to mention that lot of companies are working on implementing the blockchain Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: bitcoinfuck on January 01, 2019, 04:57:59 PM Centralized tokens are shit, you don't know when developers are broke and are about to dump and the market will just send investors to the land of lamentation. I recently invested in a centralized project and got burnt. same here, can you say the name ? Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: anaumar on January 01, 2019, 10:59:01 PM many new investors who enter Cryptocurrency without doing their research or knowing the basics first so that many are easily panicked and then make the market more down after the panic that affects others as well
Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: crzy on January 01, 2019, 11:06:24 PM many new investors who enter Cryptocurrency without doing their research or knowing the basics first so that many are easily panicked and then make the market more down after the panic that affects others as well That’s too greedy for the newbies to enter the market without enough knowledge, and they panicked because they are just thinking about how to make easy money and being scared by the whales through negative news. This is a normal scenario every time the market dumps. Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: gabbie2010 on January 01, 2019, 11:31:18 PM many new investors who enter Cryptocurrency without doing their research or knowing the basics first so that many are easily panicked and then make the market more down after the panic that affects others as well That’s too greedy for the newbies to enter the market without enough knowledge, and they panicked because they are just thinking about how to make easy money and being scared by the whales through negative news. This is a normal scenario every time the market dumps. Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: Denton on January 01, 2019, 11:56:40 PM You were right to say that. If the coin is traded, then it is good. So it is needed and its cost will increase over time. You don't have to panic if you have losses now. If you hold promising coins, then you just need to wait.
Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: Oilacris on January 01, 2019, 11:58:19 PM many new investors who enter Cryptocurrency without doing their research or knowing the basics first so that many are easily panicked and then make the market more down after the panic that affects others as well That’s too greedy for the newbies to enter the market without enough knowledge, and they panicked because they are just thinking about how to make easy money and being scared by the whales through negative news. This is a normal scenario every time the market dumps. full potential o crypto in the future specially Bitcoin. Troubled and panic cant really be avoided but if you do see the tech behind for longer terms you would able to see its importance. Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: Distinctin on January 02, 2019, 04:36:02 AM Thanks mate, you are very positive, I hope everyone will think positive and will consider your reasoning.
A lot of people now are troubled because they did not expect a big correction last year, but the tech is great, it's only down due to big manipulation. Still very positive for the future to come. I'm not troubled now. ;D Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: nebuch on January 02, 2019, 06:15:07 AM I would like to react about centralized.
Decentralized coins is much better than centralized because centralized is more likely controllable by someone. Decentralized is more about touch me not governments and whatever that have motives to regulate all things with regards to decentralized tokens. Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: Lumi3004 on January 02, 2019, 06:30:22 AM You're right I'm not alone, so there's no need to panic, and you don't need to think negatively just do what I am trying to take from the positive side, everything will be fine for Bitcoin, if everyone thinks like this, everyone will enjoy and still have kindness toforward.
Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: kerjakuat on January 02, 2019, 07:25:58 AM im still holding on what i believed only now. the rest i already sold it out. in this tough market we need money to survive. to who that didnt need extra money they sure can afford to lose but people like me. i need cash to survive. so it is a hard decision to hold too long. need to sell some so we can survive in the real world.
Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: aoluain on January 02, 2019, 07:46:46 AM Good thread with good tips and advice for all. I didnt see this when it was first created.
Negative threads tend to get more attention which shouldnt be the case threads like this one giving good tips should have far more replies. Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: mornabo on January 02, 2019, 08:54:08 AM i have read your thread analysis and i am really admire and yes you are right and we know that market will be ok very soon.people trust bitcoin thats why they are buying. Investors have trust and believed in bitcoin it will recover in the market very soon. It's better now to collect more coins and hold and invest it cause one day you're investment it grows in high profitable income. too much? what you sell when prices are low because panic will make you regret in the future dude Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: rubythebest888 on January 02, 2019, 09:28:08 AM Let your dreams stay big and your worries stay small.
Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: kelz1 on January 02, 2019, 11:37:45 AM Bitcoin will continue to thrive because there are countries relying on it for their economy. Although Venezuela has it's own crypto currency the people are now forced into the crypto world and they will simply invest / use / switch to bitcoin.
Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: Valer4ik on January 02, 2019, 03:45:29 PM And if the case, it is necessary to diversify the risks always. If a year ago I would have bought a modest apartment for money spent on cards, now she would give 10 times more mining. And if I had bought the maps 2 years ago, the mining would have given me 10 times more apartments. Therefore, it is optimal to take 1 apartment, several farms and average. In the end, it will still be a plus, but there will be less risks, because the entry point cannot always be guessed.
Title: Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS Post by: gabmen on January 03, 2019, 03:56:13 PM i have read your thread analysis and i am really admire and yes you are right and we know that market will be ok very soon.people trust bitcoin thats why they are buying. Investors have trust and believed in bitcoin it will recover in the market very soon. It's better now to collect more coins and hold and invest it cause one day you're investment it grows in high profitable income. too much? what you sell when prices are low because panic will make you regret in the future dude They're seeing their money dwindle down and they're not prepared fot it. That's why people panic. And you can't blame them since it's just human emotions that ignites this. Not everyone has the same mindset as you. |
