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Title: Newbie time delay for reporting too?
Post by: Oxstone on December 10, 2018, 04:45:34 PM
Hello,

So as a newbie I got lots of restriction on posting and all... Which is perfectly OK I think. Anyway I need time between each post or topic especially as I'm new around so I don't see how the 6 minutes delay between 2 posts or topic can be a problem. I guess there are also restrictions for messaging but as I don't know anyone here yet it's still not a problem  :D

But the delay also works for reporting a post! Which is a bit of a shame because it means that I can only write something or report a post every 6 minutes...
Considering all that has been said on spam and all I thought I could help easily by reporting a few posts for spam or off-topic but it seems I'll have to chose between posting or reporting...

Is it a willing restriction to prevent reporting from newbies?


Title: Re: Newbie time delay for reporting too?
Post by: TryNinja on December 10, 2018, 04:50:20 PM
Maybe it's to avoid an army of Newbies spamming the report queue with fake reports?

Anyways, as soon as you get 16 activity, the delay goes down from 6 minutes to 1.2 minutes. So, just hold on a little bit.


Title: Re: Newbie time delay for reporting too?
Post by: hilariousandco on December 10, 2018, 04:54:38 PM
I think it's both a spam and DDOS preventative measure. I whitelisted you so see if that helps, but as above, as you get more activity the delay will go down.


Title: Re: Newbie time delay for reporting too?
Post by: Oxstone on December 10, 2018, 04:58:21 PM
Maybe it's to avoid an army of Newbies spamming the report queue with fake reports?

Anyways, as soon as you get 16 activity, the delay goes down from 6 minutes to 1.2 minutes. So, just hold on a little bit.

Oh ok it drops fairly quickly! I didn't know but that's jsut that I didn't see the point of limiting reports contrary to posting that can leads to huge spamming

I think it's both a spam and DDOS preventative measure. I whitelisted you so see if that helps, but as above, as you get more activity the delay will go down.

Well thanks I'll see if that helps! I promise to use this whitelisting power for the greater good  ;D

EDIT: It works but still have a 90 seconds delay ^^
Anyway I'll still try to contribute how I can. Thanks a lot!


Title: Re: Newbie time delay for reporting too?
Post by: The Cryptovator on December 10, 2018, 05:03:49 PM
Is it a willing restriction to prevent reporting from newbies?
No, Posting a thread or reply and report to moderator there is same time span restriction. Its happen to me also if I try to report by open on 2 tab. I think time gap little bit higher for newbie from others rank. Already mentioned by TryNinja but you can buy copper membership (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2385104.0) to avoid this kind of problem.  

- Some of the same permissions as Member-rank members, such as reduced signature styling restrictions. (But none of the PM-related restrictions are currently lifted, such as the style limit or per-hour PM limit.)
- Your "you must wait ____ seconds between ___" counter is reduced by 75%. So if you're naturally of Newbie rank, you only have to wait 360-75% = 90 seconds.

Edit:
You are automatically whitelisted if you buy a copper membership. You don't need to wear the copper membership, just own it. You can also be whitelisted for free by any staff member and a few non-staff, but we're going to need some reason to think that you actually deserve it. Do not ask me for free whitelisting.

OP don't need to buy copper membeship because you already whitelisted by hilariousandco.
I whitelisted you so see if that helps, but as above, as you get more activity the delay will go down.



Title: Re: Newbie time delay for reporting too?
Post by: Welsh on December 11, 2018, 12:08:46 AM
I personally know how frustrating this can be. Even having a cool down of 2 seconds started to annoy me towards the end. Maybe, what we should do is completely whitelist those who report regularly, and have a high percentage so it doesn't deter them from reporting. I know it can be annoying firsthand, and I could see people just closing the tab, and not trying to report it again which means less reports to handle, and more spam on the forum.

Implementing a automatic whitelist which completely removes the cool down would benefit the forum. As long as we are only giving it to people with a few thousand reports, and a certain percentage to avoid abuse.


Title: Re: Newbie time delay for reporting too?
Post by: AverageGlabella on December 11, 2018, 12:20:19 AM
I think it's both a spam and DDOS preventative measure. I whitelisted you so see if that helps, but as above, as you get more activity the delay will go down.

What does whitelisting do? Would it reduce the time I have to wait to report? The only thing thats preventing me from reporting more is the time that I have to wait between posts. It might not be as long as lower ranks and its significantly lower than 6 minutes but it would be nice to have a lower limit.


Title: Re: Newbie time delay for reporting too?
Post by: TryNinja on December 11, 2018, 12:26:15 AM
What does whitelisting do? Would it reduce the time I have to wait to report?
It lowers the delay time to 90 seconds (according to OP's post above).

The only thing thats preventing me from reporting more is the time that I have to wait between posts. It might not be as long as lower ranks and its significantly lower than 6 minutes but it would be nice to have a lower limit.
To be fair, as a Sr. Member with 270 activity, you only have a delay of 8.6 seconds. It's not that much.


Title: Re: Newbie time delay for reporting too?
Post by: AverageGlabella on December 11, 2018, 12:30:08 AM
To be fair, as a Sr. Member with 270 activity, you only have a delay of 8.6 seconds. It's not that much.
True. I only just became a Sr member and just found out that its now 8 seconds. It was higher a week ago due to only being a full time member. 8 seconds is more than manageable and I've just started reporting again. Maybe now I can stick to my promise that I made a few weeks back of reporting 100 posts a day. It's interesting that you knew it was 8.6 seconds do you have the thread which has this information?


Title: Re: Newbie time delay for reporting too?
Post by: TryNinja on December 11, 2018, 12:55:02 AM
To be fair, as a Sr. Member with 270 activity, you only have a delay of 8.6 seconds. It's not that much.
True. I only just became a Sr member and just found out that its now 8 seconds. It was higher a week ago due to only being a full time member. 8 seconds is more than manageable and I've just started reporting again. Maybe now I can stick to my promise that I made a few weeks back of reporting 100 posts a day. It's interesting that you knew it was 8.6 seconds do you have the thread which has this information?
Yeah. I took it from this post/formula:

Code:
waittime = 360;
if(activity >= 15)
        waittime = (int)(90 - activity);
if(activity >= 60)
        waittime=(int)(34.7586 - (0.0793103 * activity));
if(activity >= 100)
        waittime = max((int)(14-(activity/50)), 4);

Since you have >= 100 activity, the formula is (14-(activity/50).

For your 270 activity points, we get: 14 - (270/50) = 8.6


Title: Re: Newbie time delay for reporting too?
Post by: JuniorXcoder1 on December 11, 2018, 05:38:29 AM
the more activities you have, the less time you wait

What are the time limits on posting and the levels??
I know 360 seconds are for new people like me, but was wondering if there was break down somewhere on this.

Code:
waittime = 360;
if(activity >= 15)
        waittime = (int)(90 - activity);
if(activity >= 60)
        waittime=(int)(34.7586 - (0.0793103 * activity));
if(activity >= 100)
        waittime = max((int)(14-(activity/50)), 4);

read more in
awesome link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0


Title: Re: Newbie time delay for reporting too?
Post by: mudyak99 on December 13, 2018, 09:49:33 AM
That rules us fore reducing spam for post any thread. Because i see more user make create same post in any thread and more than 1 account to promote their project and using refferal link. This is reason why if newbie want to post need delay to create other post.


Title: Re: Newbie time delay for reporting too?
Post by: vivavivu on December 13, 2018, 12:06:04 PM
Report depends on activity as like as create post. People can spam by creating post as well as reporting on good topic. So it is perfect way to keep the restriction.