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Title: The Deep State Destroyed Chances Of Trade Deal With China, Stocks Tank
Post by: allthingsluxury on December 13, 2018, 02:13:12 PM

Somebody out there apparently does not want President Trump to make a trade deal with China. Just after U.S. and Chinese officials agreed to suspend the implementation of new tariffs for 90 days, one of China’s most important tech executives was literally kidnapped as she was changing planes in Canada.

Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou was simply on her way to Mexico, but at the urging of U.S. authorities the Canadians grabbed her and are refusing to let her go. Reportedly, the plan is to extradite her to the United States where she will apparently face charges relating to Huawei’s evasion of U.S. sanctions against Iran.

When Trump was negotiating face to face with the Chinese, he was not aware that this was taking place. So now all of Trump’s hard work is out the window, and our relations with the Chinese are probably the worst that they have been since the Korean War.

If U.S. authorities wanted to punish Huawei, they should have just slapped a big fine on them and have been done with it.

The Chinese would have been annoyed, but not that much damage would have been done.

But kidnapping a high profile member of Chinese tech loyalty and throwing her in prison is something that the Chinese will not forgive...



Click here to read the full article:

https://goldsilverliberty.blogspot.com/2018/12/the-deep-state-destroyed-chances-of.html


Title: Re: The Deep State Destroyed Chances Of Trade Deal With China, Stocks Tank
Post by: criptix on December 13, 2018, 09:30:11 PM
How do we gonna stop the global social credit system?  :-X


Title: Re: The Deep State Destroyed Chances Of Trade Deal With China, Stocks Tank
Post by: ATMD on December 14, 2018, 11:14:29 AM
Just when US and China are building constructive relationships, something had to undermine their efforts


Title: Re: The Deep State Destroyed Chances Of Trade Deal With China, Stocks Tank
Post by: allthingsluxury on December 14, 2018, 02:31:14 PM
Just when US and China are building constructive relationships, something had to undermine their efforts

One step forward. Two steps back. Keep the people on their toes.


Title: Re: The Deep State Destroyed Chances Of Trade Deal With China, Stocks Tank
Post by: Spendulus on December 14, 2018, 03:43:39 PM

Somebody out there apparently does not want President Trump to make a trade deal with China. Just after U.S. and Chinese officials agreed to suspend the implementation of new tariffs for 90 days, one of China’s most important tech executives was literally kidnapped as she was changing planes in Canada.

Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou was simply on her way to Mexico, but at the urging of U.S. authorities the Canadians grabbed her and are refusing to let her go. Reportedly, the plan is to extradite her to the United States where she will apparently face charges relating to Huawei’s evasion of U.S. sanctions against Iran.

When Trump was negotiating face to face with the Chinese, he was not aware that this was taking place. So now all of Trump’s hard work is out the window, and our relations with the Chinese are probably the worst that they have been since the Korean War.

If U.S. authorities wanted to punish Huawei, they should have just slapped a big fine on them and have been done with it.

The Chinese would have been annoyed, but not that much damage would have been done.

But kidnapping a high profile member of Chinese tech loyalty and throwing her in prison is something that the Chinese will not forgive...



Click here to read the full article:

https://goldsilverliberty.blogspot.com/2018/12/the-deep-state-destroyed-chances-of.html


I disagree with your analysis.

There is a history of problem with Huawei. Lot more going on here than some Trump vs. deep state conflict.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/14/17011246/huawei-phones-safe-us-intelligence-chief-fears

The heads of six major US intelligence agencies have warned that American citizens shouldn’t use products and services made by Chinese tech giants Huawei and ZTE. According to a report from CNBC, the intelligence chiefs made the recommendation during a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing on Tuesday. The group included the heads of the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, and the director of national intelligence.

During his testimony, FBI Director Chris Wray said the government was “deeply concerned about the risks of allowing any company or entity that is beholden to foreign governments that don’t share our values to gain positions of power inside our telecommunications networks.” He added that this would provide “the capacity to maliciously modify or steal information. And it provides the capacity to conduct undetected espionage.”



Title: Re: The Deep State Destroyed Chances Of Trade Deal With China, Stocks Tank
Post by: cryptodukeguy on December 15, 2018, 10:54:41 AM

Somebody out there apparently does not want President Trump to make a trade deal with China. Just after U.S. and Chinese officials agreed to suspend the implementation of new tariffs for 90 days, one of China’s most important tech executives was literally kidnapped as she was changing planes in Canada.

Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou was simply on her way to Mexico, but at the urging of U.S. authorities the Canadians grabbed her and are refusing to let her go. Reportedly, the plan is to extradite her to the United States where she will apparently face charges relating to Huawei’s evasion of U.S. sanctions against Iran.

When Trump was negotiating face to face with the Chinese, he was not aware that this was taking place. So now all of Trump’s hard work is out the window, and our relations with the Chinese are probably the worst that they have been since the Korean War.

If U.S. authorities wanted to punish Huawei, they should have just slapped a big fine on them and have been done with it.

The Chinese would have been annoyed, but not that much damage would have been done.

But kidnapping a high profile member of Chinese tech loyalty and throwing her in prison is something that the Chinese will not forgive...



Click here to read the full article:

https://goldsilverliberty.blogspot.com/2018/12/the-deep-state-destroyed-chances-of.html


I disagree with your analysis.

There is a history of problem with Huawei. Lot more going on here than some Trump vs. deep state conflict.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/14/17011246/huawei-phones-safe-us-intelligence-chief-fears

The heads of six major US intelligence agencies have warned that American citizens shouldn’t use products and services made by Chinese tech giants Huawei and ZTE. According to a report from CNBC, the intelligence chiefs made the recommendation during a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing on Tuesday. The group included the heads of the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, and the director of national intelligence.

During his testimony, FBI Director Chris Wray said the government was “deeply concerned about the risks of allowing any company or entity that is beholden to foreign governments that don’t share our values to gain positions of power inside our telecommunications networks.” He added that this would provide “the capacity to maliciously modify or steal information. And it provides the capacity to conduct undetected espionage.”



I really think that China and the rest of the world really do not give a shit about US. We just want US to mind their business in their territory, and not been engaged in situations all over the planet with tremendous negative impact for every single country, except US, Saudi Arabia and Israel.


Title: Re: The Deep State Destroyed Chances Of Trade Deal With China, Stocks Tank
Post by: Spendulus on December 15, 2018, 04:43:01 PM
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I really think that China and the rest of the world really do not give a shit about US. We just want US to mind their business in their territory, and not been engaged in situations all over the planet with tremendous negative impact for every single country, except US, Saudi Arabia and Israel.

lol more accurate they WANT the US involved internationally where and when it benefits their selfish interests, and they NEED the US trade...