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News of the first Bitcoin gun store spread all over the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ0XcvHgpTc

Right now, there's a high demand for guns world wide. Second and Third Bitcoin stores opening world wide soon.

From the video it's about Texas where firearms are allowed with a legislation, the title is misleading.

But worldwide it is illegal!

And my personnal stance on this is : NO! I disagree with firearms being sold to people, this open access to firearms to responsable and at the same time to irresponsable people, it makes the danger of crime and retaliation on a whole other level. I prefer to live in a community where no one has fire arms than a community where criminals have firearms and I'm allowed to buy one to defend myself, it's still to risky! not to mention the accidents possibility

It's very hard not to comment to this... must resist argue

I'm going to state the obvious, since you don't seem to see it:

1. Criminals don't need to get their guns legally, ergo the gun law only affects non-criminals
2. Criminals can build their own guns, whether or not that's illegal as well
3. Criminals exist within government, who will still have guns legally

I agree that you should have the opportunity to live in a community that is free of guns, but when you believe you can force (at gunpoint) everyone else to live in this community, it's difficult to take your sentiment seriously, due to your blatant hypocrisy and lack of empathy.

The idea that guns can be sold in Texas and not world wide is a scam.
This is how you know you get scam by the Terrorist organization Illuminati.

With the advent of 3D-printing it's gonna get very tough to keep guns out of individuals' hands
Up to folks to exercise responsibility

Buy Cheap, Stack um Deep! ;D

The only way to truly enforce gun control is for the government to go door to door, murdering, with guns, innocent people. So if you don't support that, you're not really in favor of gun control.

Any "debate" less than that is equivocation that only enables criminals' safety at the absolute exclusion of innocent victims, the only people ever rendered legally disarmed and defenseless by "gun control".

You've totally missed my point, and obviously you are the one that does not see it:

1-I didn't say that criminals would get their guns legally in fact it's quite the opposite, they'll get their weapons illegally, but since you are allowing guns to circulate in a huge volume trough the legal route, you are indirectly increasing the ammount of weapons in the illegal circuit, since those arms can be stolen for example and that one example of many.

2- Criminals can indeed built their own guns, but there is a difference between the small thief, who want a gun to steal something, and doesn't have access to an industrial grade 3D printer, or machinning . the easiest way is to buy a gun from someone who stoll it.

3- Indeed, and that's another way to get firearms, aside from other crimes they might do, firearms traficking on a large scale is possible since there is a legal circuit ....

My point stand strong, especially if you consider that in western world, the country with highest crime rate, and people shot death, is the US of A where firearms are allowed. It's not hypocrisy if you consider, that the US is an exception to the rule and that rule as not panning out well.


So in countries where gun control is enforced, the goverment is murdering with guns innocent people, that's news to me .... :(

Instead of being sarcastic, why don't you learn a thing or two about the outside world, and about how in some countries where true democracy prevail and security, policemen don't even have firearms, and heck even in terms army those countries have almost nothing. lol why am I even answering a troll hmm got baited I guess, but will not happen again.
 

Just put a sign in front of your house saying no guns allowed. That will keep the criminals out.

I don't need to do so since I live in a country where firearms are not allowed and I feel safer that way.

I also prefer to live in such a community, but as it turns our we are ruled over by men with guns...

people won't come after u until you buy a gun

it's kinda like a self-fulfilling prophecy  :o

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Posted_Japanese_American_Exclusion_Order.jpg

They came after Satoshi's family with guns, and locked them up.  They lost their house and farm.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_9066

Yes because they feel safer hurting someone that has the means to shoot back... retard.

HUH is it really legal to ship guns cross countries ???  :o cuz there is a check called customs  :P

I still don't see the appeal.  Why would someone want to use something made out of plastic or some other similar material that houses an explosive?  Yeah, no thanks.  3D printing is cool but I think there is a better way.  You're better off milling a piece of metal or finishing an 80% lower receiver IMO.

Buying!
These businesses that are first in their arena are cleaning up with me. Overstock got another $600 this weekend and now I'm thinking I need a gun from these guys.

What should I get? I'm leaning toward a 1911.

it's not about feeling "safe".  it's about ""karma""

If its your first, get a Glock 17. Simple to maintain and easy to shoot and 9mm is ubiquitous, even in totalitarian dictatorships.

Do you mean all crime or just gun crime or just homicides? Yes, the US has the highest crime rate of western countries, but, if compared to the UK, we have 10x the population, but only 2x the number of crimes.



Where is this magical country where true democracy exists?

No firearms in the world, but in the US!

You have so much criminals there? What is the reason for this?

Wow, sensationalist much? Human trafficking in SE Asia, gangs in the UK, mobsters in Russia. Yeah, we got all the criminals.

The founders of our country had the forethought to make arms ownership a right of the people. I wonder how the rest of the world would be different if all people were free?

For carry, yes, a Glock 19 would be better.  I owned a G22 at one time, but kept getting bit by the slide. Now I carry a S&W M&P 40Pro. The 1911 just has a mystique about it.

It makes sense for historical reasons, but there should be piece now. I do not believe John Lennon ever was wearing a firearm. And it had been of no use.

That was his choice. The 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution is about defense of one's self and one's country against those who wish to do harm. I wonder if Lennon had a more realistic view of the world, how much longer would he have lived?

simple; too many laws. the more laws you have the more criminals you will create.

making laws against guns only creates outlaws with guns. if you want less criminals abolish the laws that create them.

http://www.impactguns.com/data/default/images/catalog/535/glock_19.jpg

Glock 19

9mm widely available

Yeah fuck it, I'll bite.


Call me crazy but I say give guns to ANYONE who wants 'em.

What do we have now? Cops with a license to KILL and citizens who can't defend themselves.

If everyone had guns... even the nuts and the undesirables, you have an amazing system of checks and balances.

Cop gonna beat that citizen? Tell him how "These hands are about to fuck you up"
You sure about that when ANYONE could be lurking with a piece ready to send you into the next lifetime?

Mob justice would ABSOLUTELY be better than government tyranny, and EVERY government turns corrupt and tyrannical on a long enough timeline, look around.

Give 'em all guns, pass 'em out to whoever wants 'em. It would make the world a better place.

I wouldn't even stop there. I think that citizens should have access to ANY weapons that authority can have. Military gets UZIs, Ok, then everyone else does too. No monopoly on power and control for anyone, and once again, the world would be a better place.

We will NEVER be free as long as they have the power (and goons) to keep the masses in line.
 

But guns are bad.. Haven't you heard?

I love living in the United States of 'Murica.

Not one day I take the 2nd Amendment for granted.

Thanks for the suggestions guys. Those are all good ones. Right now I carry a Kahr K9 elite. I really don't need another EDC, so I might go for a service pistol size range gun. I have never owned a 1911 but when set up correctly they are such a good gun to shoot. You almost can't beat it for point-ability.
I would love to have a criticism of Glock because they just don't appeal to me. However you can't argue with success. Glocks are a proven gun that just works.
So many choices.
 

Experts agree that the 1911 and P226 look more impressive when posing for photos.   :)

Glock is light and reliable, but 1911 offers a real punch if you need it. All depends if you're a gun fan or just want it for self defense and every day carry.

+1

This is a capitalist world. We value money more than life.

As long as that's true, we need guns. Because the other guy has guns, and if we don't he will enslave us and make lots of money.

Oh wait, that's happening anyway. The man has tricked us into believing the fake money only HE is allowed to print has value.
And if we try to print our own physical money, the man sends men with guns to our house to shut us down and take our money.

https://www.casascius.com/

Which is why we need guns. And cryptocurrency. Now to get back to the task of getting mass-produced physical Bitcoins onto the world market, so that we can strip the man of all his power.

The man's laws are helpless against decentralization, anyway:

"Aluminum "Strength in Numbers" Promo Coin (bag of about 500) FREE POSTAL SHIPPING
1.25 inches in diameter, blank back, does not include any bitcoins.

[Print your own sticker for the back and use it as a business card, or print your own private key sticker and put bitcoins on it."

Good game, you selfish, evil fucks.

Sarcasm ahead:
I think what bitcoiners should do is get like 100 people together in a fortress, get really well-armed, set up all kinds of insane high-tech defenses, build a huge wall, and start mass-producing physical coins. Then when the government sends in the men with guns to stop us, we defend ourselves to the death! And livestream the whole thing! We will only need to make this terrible sacrifice ONCE.

The senseless tragedy and deaths of countless federal agents will spark such a worldwide outrage that it will END the practice of most modern governments shutting down competing physical currencies.

The sooner fiat is killed, the better it will be for the 99% of the world.

OOOH I see what you're saying. I totally get it now. Boy was I STUPID to think that a criminal would feel safer if his innocent victims didn't have guns! Of COURSE they feel safer when we have guns. That's what creates criminals. It's my fault, because criminals are actually safer around me when I have a gun in my hand because I'm too fucking retarded to shoot them. Only criminals should be allowed guns. Take all guns away from good innocent law abiding citizens because criminals are actually the good guys, especially rapists and pedos. Us innocent good people need to accept being raped and killed by criminals because we aren't criminals and that makes us stupid and therefore deserving of being mugged and shot.