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Title: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: Interstellar_ on December 18, 2018, 06:26:22 PM
Good day

The other day I ran into a very unpleasant event, for my account was banned Buratinos
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=790871
The reason for the ban did not come to my registration mailbox, as well as personal messages on the forum, although this option is active and in case of removal of my post, I receive a notification

About the bath I eloquently said pop-up sign in the header of the forum
https://c.radikal.ru/c26/1812/8c/97765cc5c8fa.png
Everything would be nothing, but for what ?, and why it was impossible for the first time to limit the warning?
I wrote to the address indicated in the tablet but there is silence, no response

I will say that the ban was preceded by the removal of my post which was written probably half a year ago
https://c.radikal.ru/c37/1812/f7/2609e99f1011.jpg
I have nothing to do with the PostCoin project. He himself was essentially deceived ...
Yes, I wrote these messages and received payment, but did it in the subject of the project, and nowhere else.
The fact that this project scam I could not know.


PS
Is there a chance to remove the ban, if so how ?, help


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: Lafu on December 18, 2018, 06:42:51 PM
Guess you are banned for Copy and paste , plagiarism maybe !

But exactly we can say it when a Mod or a Global Mod jumps in this thread and give you the reason for you ban !

Remember you just should write only here with your new Account , because your other Account is banned perma  !  


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on December 18, 2018, 06:50:37 PM
Plagiarism:

Ceгoдня aкция пo yмнoжeнию пpизa зa Лoтo PostCoin пpoйдeт в 20:00 MCК. Пoльзoвaтeль yгaдaвший чиcлo пoлyчит пpeмию x10 к cвoeмy выигpышy. Умнoжeниe дocтyпнo xoлдepaм PostCoin 1-9 ypoвнeй



Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: Interstellar_ on December 18, 2018, 07:00:48 PM
Plagiarism:

Ceгoдня aкция пo yмнoжeнию пpизa зa Лoтo PostCoin пpoйдeт в 20:00 MCК. Пoльзoвaтeль yгaдaвший чиcлo пoлyчит пpeмию x10 к cвoeмy выигpышy. Умнoжeниe дocтyпнo xoлдepaм PostCoin 1-9 ypoвнeй

https://i.imgur.com/zbQxDAa.png
https://bitalk.org/threads/4439/page-168
I wrote this account of my accounts and confirm it if necessary.

The text of the message to the community was issued the same, and those who were not too lazy to carry the message on the forums.

AliCris a member of the PostCoin community and I We were engaged in sending messages in the topic PostCoin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976290.msg19749325#msg19749325
This is not plagiarism


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: DireWolfM14 on December 18, 2018, 07:34:28 PM
Plagiarism:

Ceгoдня aкция пo yмнoжeнию пpизa зa Лoтo PostCoin пpoйдeт в 20:00 MCК. Пoльзoвaтeль yгaдaвший чиcлo пoлyчит пpeмию x10 к cвoeмy выигpышy. Умнoжeниe дocтyпнo xoлдepaм PostCoin 1-9 ypoвнeй

https://i.imgur.com/zbQxDAa.png
https://bitalk.org/threads/4439/page-168
I wrote this account of my accounts and confirm it if necessary.

The text of the message to the community was issued the same, and those who were not too lazy to carry the message on the forums.

AliCris a member of the PostCoin community and I We were engaged in sending messages in the topic PostCoin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976290.msg19749325#msg19749325
This is not plagiarism

I'm sorry for having trouble understanding your English.  Are you saying AliCris is you alt account?


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: Interstellar_ on December 18, 2018, 07:37:22 PM
Plagiarism:

Ceгoдня aкция пo yмнoжeнию пpизa зa Лoтo PostCoin пpoйдeт в 20:00 MCК. Пoльзoвaтeль yгaдaвший чиcлo пoлyчит пpeмию x10 к cвoeмy выигpышy. Умнoжeниe дocтyпнo xoлдepaм PostCoin 1-9 ypoвнeй

https://i.imgur.com/zbQxDAa.png
https://bitalk.org/threads/4439/page-168
I wrote this account of my accounts and confirm it if necessary.

The text of the message to the community was issued the same, and those who were not too lazy to carry the message on the forums.

AliCris a member of the PostCoin community and I We were engaged in sending messages in the topic PostCoin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976290.msg19749325#msg19749325
This is not plagiarism


I'm sorry for having trouble understanding your English.  Are you saying AliCris is you alt account?
No, he's a member of the PostCoin community.
I am also a member of the postcoin community.


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: Interstellar_ on December 18, 2018, 07:46:14 PM
I wrote this
https://i.imgur.com/zbQxDAa.png
https://bitalk.org/threads/4439/page-168


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on December 18, 2018, 07:51:51 PM
About the bath I eloquently said pop-up sign in the header of the forum
This is some of the weirdest English I've ever read, and that's saying a lot for a bitcointalk member who's been here for over 3 years.

No, he's a member of the PostCoin community.
I am also a member of the postcoin community.
I'm not a moderator here and wasn't the one who reported this, but I'd say it doesn't really matter if the post you copied was from a teammate or not, it's still a copy/paste.  I'll be interested to see what staff has to say about this--and I'd be really interested to know how you manage to write things in English.


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: Interstellar_ on December 18, 2018, 08:03:09 PM
About the bath I eloquently said pop-up sign in the header of the forum
This is some of the weirdest English I've ever read, and that's saying a lot for a bitcointalk member who's been here for over 3 years.
I am writing through google translate
Sorry, I'm with Ukraine



I'm not a moderator here and wasn't the one who reported this, but I'd say it doesn't really matter if the post you copied was from a teammate or not, it's still a copy/paste.  I'll be interested to see what staff has to say about this--and I'd be really interested to know how you manage to write things in English.
I did not violate copyright


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: suchmoon on December 18, 2018, 08:20:15 PM
I did not violate copyright

This forum cares not so much about someone's copyrights but more about copy-paste as an extremely lazy form spamming. Two accounts posted the same message, so it's safe to assume that one copied from the other. Now you can come up with all sorts of excuses, such as alts, or team members, or family members - we've heard it all, and it's impossible to prove. You should have used quotes and reference links if it wasn't the original post that you typed in.


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: Interstellar_ on December 18, 2018, 08:26:22 PM
I did not violate copyright

This forum cares not so much about someone's copyrights but more about copy-paste as an extremely lazy form spamming. Two accounts posted the same message, so it's safe to assume that one copied from the other. Now you can come up with all sorts of excuses, such as alts, or team members, or family members - we've heard it all, and it's impossible to prove. You should have used quotes and reference links if it wasn't the original post that you typed in.

Ok i made a mistake
Can you forgive me?


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: Hivalley on December 18, 2018, 08:32:00 PM
Ok i made a mistake
Can you forgive me?
The answer to this is definitely NO, thats why it's called a permanent ban, it's not reversible
It's best not to stretch this too far, or the plagiarism bingo will be out sooner or later.

And note that you're not allowed to operate on any other account on the forum


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: suchmoon on December 18, 2018, 08:32:49 PM
Ok i made a mistake
Can you forgive me?

I'm not a moderator, sorry. I'm just explaining why copyright doesn't matter. You would also get banned if you copied something from a public domain source.


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on December 18, 2018, 08:46:59 PM
the plagiarism bingo will be out sooner or later.
Yep, and I was hoping maybe we could add a little jpg for one of the spots, maybe this image:

http://i66.tinypic.com/2ypjehh.jpg

for the excuse of "but he was part of my team of shitposters on the spam farm!".

Edit:
<snip>
Could you please unquote that picture from my post?  It's not necessary to see it any more than once in this thread, and I'm sure some people would argue that once is one time too many.


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: Initscri on December 18, 2018, 08:58:19 PM
~snip~

How this forum ever got to this point is beyond me.

Quote from: Interstellar_ link=topic=5086694.msg48747783#msg48747783
date=1545164782
I did not violate copyright

This forum cares not so much about someone's copyrights but more about copy-paste as an extremely lazy form spamming. Two accounts posted the same message, so it's safe to assume that one copied from the other. Now you can come up with all sorts of excuses, such as alts, or team members, or family members - we've heard it all, and it's impossible to prove. You should have used quotes and reference links if it wasn't the original post that you typed in.

Ok i made a mistake
Can you forgive me?

You can plea to a moderator but I doubt they are going to forgive. This forum is plagued with spam, and the only thing that's going to start improving that is moderators who are willing to use the banhammer.

Edit:

Edit:
<snip>
Could you please unquote that picture from my post?  It's not necessary to see it any more than once in this thread, and I'm sure some people would argue that once is one time too many.

Sorry, just saw this now. Yup no prob! Removed :)


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: jeromix on December 19, 2018, 09:17:29 AM
About the bath I eloquently said pop-up sign in the header of the forum
This is some of the weirdest English I've ever read, and that's saying a lot for a bitcointalk member who's been here for over 3 years.
I am writing through google translate
Sorry, I'm with Ukraine



I'm not a moderator here and wasn't the one who reported this, but I'd say it doesn't really matter if the post you copied was from a teammate or not, it's still a copy/paste.  I'll be interested to see what staff has to say about this--and I'd be really interested to know how you manage to write things in English.
I did not violate copyright
Well you should have declared your alt accounts before modz will going to see copy and paste posts. Besides, even if you own it still copy and paste is not a good practice when replying a different thread for it will have a different opinion to posts. And why on earth have done this? Are you get tired of typing and encoding replies in a posts? This is the problem starts where members tend to cheat on replying posts just to comply the number of posts needed for signature bounty campaign.


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: Interstellar_ on December 20, 2018, 07:00:23 AM
About the bath I eloquently said pop-up sign in the header of the forum
This is some of the weirdest English I've ever read, and that's saying a lot for a bitcointalk member who's been here for over 3 years.
I am writing through google translate
Sorry, I'm with Ukraine



I'm not a moderator here and wasn't the one who reported this, but I'd say it doesn't really matter if the post you copied was from a teammate or not, it's still a copy/paste.  I'll be interested to see what staff has to say about this--and I'd be really interested to know how you manage to write things in English.
I did not violate copyright
Well you should have declared your alt accounts before modz will going to see copy and paste posts. Besides, even if you own it still copy and paste is not a good practice when replying a different thread for it will have a different opinion to posts. And why on earth have done this? Are you get tired of typing and encoding replies in a posts? This is the problem starts where members tend to cheat on replying posts just to comply the number of posts needed for signature bounty campaign.

I did not duplicate the message on *bitcointalk.org*.
The PostCoin community was given a message template.

I just duplicated on third-party forums.

PS
AliCris this is not my account.


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on December 20, 2018, 01:36:35 PM
I did not duplicate the message on *bitcointalk.org*.
The PostCoin community was given a message template.

I just duplicated on third-party forums.

PS
AliCris this is not my account.

It doesn't matter. The bottom line is you made a post in which the content was written by someone else, without providing correct attribution. The fact that other people who were shilling and/or being paid by "PostCoin" also took part in this behaviour is not an excuse. If you wish to provide links to their posts, then they will be banned as well, but your ban will not be reversed.


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: cryptohunter on December 20, 2018, 01:46:46 PM
interstella - Are you saying

There was an announcement or news posted about a project and you simply copied that announcement to another place where this information was relevant and not already been posted ?

If so I see nothing wrong with that.

Is this what you are saying~??

I am not disputing this is the correct decision because so far no many have been even questionable after further investigation but you all seem to be shutting him down early. Let's hear the full side of what he is saying.

I mean copying news that cryptopia is delisting your coin and about to keep your coins in a few days to the pertinent thread is not copy and paste you SHOULD BE banned for. This is important news and is a very net positive post to read if you have those coins.

Let's hear his full explanation of what happened. His english is making it hard .



Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: suchmoon on December 20, 2018, 02:12:16 PM
interstella - Are you saying

There was an announcement or news posted about a project and you simply copied that announcement to another place where this information was relevant and not already been posted ?

If so I see nothing wrong with that.

Is this what you are saying~??

I am not disputing this is the correct decision because so far no many have been even questionable after further investigation but you all seem to be shutting him down early. Let's hear the full side of what he is saying.

I mean copying news that cryptopia is delisting your coin and about to keep your coins in a few days to the pertinent thread is not copy and paste you SHOULD BE banned for. This is important news and is a very net positive post to read if you have those coins.

Let's hear his full explanation of what happened. His english is making it hard .

This has nothing to do with Cryptopia. Quit spamming.


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: khaled0111 on December 20, 2018, 02:15:17 PM
I mean copying news that cryptopia is delisting your coin and about to keep your coins in a few days to the pertinent thread is not copy and paste you SHOULD BE banned for. This is important news and is a very net positive post to read if you have those coins.
If so, he could easilly avoid the ban by quoting the original post and adding a link to it.
Moderators do not tolerate copy pasting or plagiarizm, I don't think they have enough time to run a full investigation for each case.


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: Blakcwhite69 on December 20, 2018, 04:39:30 PM
I did not violate copyright

This forum cares not so much about someone's copyrights but more about copy-paste as an extremely lazy form spamming. Two accounts posted the same message, so it's safe to assume that one copied from the other. Now you can come up with all sorts of excuses, such as alts, or team members, or family members - we've heard it all, and it's impossible to prove. You should have used quotes and reference links if it wasn't the original post that you typed in.

Ok i made a mistake
Can you forgive me?

It's time you beg to apologize for your mistake. Time to beg ;)


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: cryptohunter on December 20, 2018, 07:42:36 PM
interstella - Are you saying

There was an announcement or news posted about a project and you simply copied that announcement to another place where this information was relevant and not already been posted ?

If so I see nothing wrong with that.

Is this what you are saying~??

I am not disputing this is the correct decision because so far no many have been even questionable after further investigation but you all seem to be shutting him down early. Let's hear the full side of what he is saying.

I mean copying news that cryptopia is delisting your coin and about to keep your coins in a few days to the pertinent thread is not copy and paste you SHOULD BE banned for. This is important news and is a very net positive post to read if you have those coins.

Let's hear his full explanation of what happened. His english is making it hard .

This has nothing to do with Cryptopia. Quit spamming.

Please refrain from constantly feeling the need to chat me up.

As usual you miss the point of what an example may be.

Prove spamming and motive to do so or else again false accusation.  Not that I am bothered or will start crying to red trust about it but still groundless comments and attempting to silence my free speech on this board should not be tolerated over extended periods. Especially as you are constantly focusing on me. I can demonstrate in the vast vast vast majority of time of  interactions between us you initiate with negative comments and rules you think you can implement. You are simply building a case for yourself to be taken from any positions of trust or power here. It would be okay if the negativity or criticism could be backed up but you never do it is simply your groundless opinion.

Think twice before stalking me and diving in on everything that I post with negativity and caustic comments. I would not ask you get red trust or anything that prevents you from posting but power and trust must only reside with sensible objective and fair individuals.

Prove yourself to be of that sort or else I will do everything that I can to demonstrate you should not be allowed to enforce your personal will upon posters in an unfair and bully like way. Good bye DT trust good bye merit source and good bye any future mod position for you. Why? because i will demonstrate quite clearly with observable events you are quite a bully most of the time. I mean obviously it will never wash with me but it should not be allowed.

Now stop replying to everything I post unless you are more pleasant. Or have a Proven valid point you can clearly demonstrate that holds up to scrutiny.






Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: suchmoon on December 20, 2018, 07:50:37 PM
~

Your personal grievances go here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086297

Try to stay on topic. Do you have any proof to help Buratinos with their appeal?


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: cryptohunter on December 20, 2018, 08:04:37 PM
Well his english is hard to follow but if he is just posting news bulletins for his project to other forums on topic and relevant that should not be a problem.

It would seem similar to the cryptopia example.

This kind of thing is CLEARLY not worthy of a perm ban.

Many teams copy and paste their twitter news to their thread here should we ban those teams?

Whether he was only doing that who can say.

He seems to have got shut down before clearly explaining his case.



Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: Interstellar_ on December 21, 2018, 04:25:17 AM
Well his english is hard to follow but if he is just posting news bulletins for his project to other forums on topic and relevant that should not be a problem.

It would seem similar to the cryptopia example.

This kind of thing is CLEARLY not worthy of a perm ban.

Many teams copy and paste their twitter news to their thread here should we ban those teams?

Whether he was only doing that who can say.

He seems to have got shut down before clearly explaining his case.


I was banned
Not given the opportunity to explain
\
Example:
In the DASH branch daily news is copied
Plagiarism?


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: TryNinja on December 21, 2018, 04:47:27 AM
I was banned
Not given the opportunity to explain
Explain what? You admitted that you plagiarized (which is against the rules). You won't be forgiven, so just accept that your account is gone.

Ok i made a mistake
Can you forgive me?


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: suchmoon on December 21, 2018, 04:49:56 AM
I was banned
Not given the opportunity to explain
\
Example:
In the DASH branch daily news is copied
Plagiarism?

If they copy texts without proper quotes and attribution please be a good citizen and report them to moderators.

Now - how is that relevant to your problem?


Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: mikeywith on December 21, 2018, 05:48:07 AM
 ok , so i think what the OP is trying to say is that , there was an announcement about a prize of extra postcoins for those who guess the right number of something !  on > bitalk.org  ( a Russian website i think) which he had to announce to the members of bitcointalk.org

so he thinks it was a generous act of him to let the people on this forum know about whatever prize was given.

* i used google translator , so i hope someone who speaks Russian can confirm if i understood him right.

if YES , then i do not think this counts as plagiarism, because in many languages including mine, we do not reference a quoted text the same way in English, and by default since the text source is clear then it is not an attempt of plagiarism.

for example if i saw a tweet on Megan fox twitter saying  " Megan will marry trump because he is hot"

if i had to announce that to somebody else i would say the following:

Megan will marry trump because he is hot. without quotations as long as the source is there and it reference the original person.

and since we know i am not Megan fox, and still copied and pasted her text, it is not plagiarism. but if i said I am going to marry trump because he is hot, then it's plagiarism.

so if the Russian speakers on this forum know that the OP is not the postcoin official speaker nor he claimed to be , then this is certainly not a plagiarism.

I doubt that those who only speak English will understand "exactly" what i am trying to point out , but i am sure those whose English is their second language will understand.

tho i still find it strange that someone who has been around this long can't speak proper English ( i know he is not obligated to ) but it is just strange.




Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: cryptohunter on December 21, 2018, 07:52:35 AM
Well his english is hard to follow but if he is just posting news bulletins for his project to other forums on topic and relevant that should not be a problem.

It would seem similar to the cryptopia example.

This kind of thing is CLEARLY not worthy of a perm ban.

Many teams copy and paste their twitter news to their thread here should we ban those teams?

Whether he was only doing that who can say.

He seems to have got shut down before clearly explaining his case.


I was banned
Not given the opportunity to explain
\
Example:
In the DASH branch daily news is copied
Plagiarism?

Yes that is true they copy from their twitter and copy from


Can you give complete step by step what you are copying from where and why. Give example ... It sounds like you are copying news from here to other forums which I guess can not be right else it is not copying and pasting here and we do not moderate other forums for them right. So I am not getting what you mean so far.  If you are a member of a community here and are copying news about your project from elsewhere to  your ann thread here then I see no issue with that either really.

Copying news say from twitter feed of a project to a projects thread here is common place by many teams copy their news from the twitter announcement to their threads here and of course is not copy and paste to be banned for perm.

Many people who are the community managers or just well known members of communities always copying and pasting twitter annoucement for that project  to the ANN thread







Title: Re: Banned Account *Buratinos*
Post by: Interstellar_ on December 21, 2018, 04:30:40 PM
All meaningless
You are not authorized to withdraw the ban, you are flooding

Topic closes.