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Title: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: Ccexicocartel on December 18, 2018, 10:52:56 PM
I think this article brings up a good point about stablecoins and their position next to bitcoin: https://www.strictlycrypto.com/stablecoins-why-does-the-ecosystem-needs-them/

Thoughts?


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: BitMaxz on December 18, 2018, 11:09:03 PM
I don't think that stablecoins like tether can be 2nd in coinmarketcap they only use for trading purposes and it is not decentralized so there is a big chance if the tether is compromised it can be hack again just like what happened before.

Many investors and traders choose coins which I think that they can make a profit so if it's stable how could they make a profit? and honestly, I don't trust centralized coins because it's regulated and there is a big chance that all investors can be affected if the whole system is compromised compared to decentralized coins.

Stablecoins is only good for trading purposes since it's stable if the bitcoin is in the bear market we can safely store your money in stablecoins for the meantime while the price of crypto is in the bear market.


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: KingScorpio on December 18, 2018, 11:24:00 PM
all "stablecoins" are in the end just a form of banked coins with the goal to fail the 1:1 ratio without the holders noticing,

all stable coin issuers have secretly the goal to move slowly towards fractional reserve backing they dont admit it but thats how they all work

its today even sure that tether is not 1:1 Backed because the market isn't testing it out consequentially.


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: A7373 on December 18, 2018, 11:38:13 PM
I think stablecoins are good for investors in fonds, but we need some regulations of stablecoins.


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: PsylockReborn on December 19, 2018, 04:04:21 AM
I think this article brings up a good point about stablecoins and their position next to bitcoin: https://www.strictlycrypto.com/stablecoins-why-does-the-ecosystem-needs-them/

Thoughts?
I only find these stable coins as a safe haven for investors in times of market bloodbath. During the BCH fork, bitcoin and other alt coins were experiencing tremendous downfall good thing there are those stable coins that we could use to cut off our loss during market dips.
There are also professionals who are working online receiving crypto payments and it would be a benefit to both sides (the employer and the employee) to be using a stable coin as payment method.



Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: bayu7adi on December 19, 2018, 04:15:46 AM
actually, stable coin is not really needed, there are still many people who want coins to remain vulnerable and can also be used as a money-making tool, even though they eliminate the real function of the currency
if indeed the coin label is very valuable in the community, the adoption of USDT should exceed the adoption of BTC, because we know, the USDT moves based on the FIAT USD currency graph, which is a famous fiat currency with high stability


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: jademaxxiss012 on December 19, 2018, 04:19:34 AM
Stable coins is more on like USDT is probably the most stable coins in times where cryptocurrency is down. I learn that converting fiat currency to USDT is an ideal for it does not going to fall down where market price is stable. The best thing that we have this kind of crypto for next time market price fluctuation we can keep safe our money in a crypto like USDT.


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: speedy963 on December 19, 2018, 06:16:06 AM
Stable coins is more on like USDT is probably the most stable coins in times where cryptocurrency is down. I learn that converting fiat currency to USDT is an ideal for it does not going to fall down where market price is stable. The best thing that we have this kind of crypto for next time market price fluctuation we can keep safe our money in a crypto like USDT.
Well this is only my own personal opinion buddy but i am quiet sure that when money is involve there is no assurance of being "safe". You do have a point specially in times of crisis like this, and it is also important to have some stable coins to lean on because first and foremost that should be the main goal of the people behind those ICO's if i am not mistaken but sadly most of them nowadays are not that trustworthy.


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: davis196 on December 19, 2018, 06:37:07 AM
Stable coins is more on like USDT is probably the most stable coins in times where cryptocurrency is down. I learn that converting fiat currency to USDT is an ideal for it does not going to fall down where market price is stable. The best thing that we have this kind of crypto for next time market price fluctuation we can keep safe our money in a crypto like USDT.

This post is completely ignorant.Our money can't be safe with tether,because tether can disappear at any time as an exit scam.Nobody knows how big is their fiat money reserve.The article about stablecoins is complete bs,I'm sure it's paid propaganda by some stablecoin dev team.We don't need stablecoins at all.


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: Hivalley on December 19, 2018, 06:54:22 AM
Stable coins do not really offer much as you and many other people make it look,it simply brings a sort of centralized stability that we do not actually need, apart from being pegged to a particular Fiat currency,i do not see any other exciting feature of a stable coin neither can it compete in the cryptocurrency market


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: skish85 on December 19, 2018, 08:51:51 AM
Very well, that appeared stable coin. They are more stable, and therefore more secure, which ultimately brings the cryptocurrency market to a new level. People are beginning to trust cryptocurrencies more and use them more.


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: dothebeats on December 19, 2018, 09:26:43 AM
Not the whole ecosystem of bitcoin needs stablecoins as they only benefit the traders who are looking to hedge their funds while transferring from one exchange to another. Also, it is still debated whether stablecoins really fulfill the promise of being a 1:1 ratio of the assets they are really holding, so it's a bit of a stretch to get your funds back once the unimaginable event of hacks happen. We know who to sue and where to go, but would our money be reimbursed once they tried to Gox people? I think not.


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: pat4cryptoreal on December 19, 2018, 09:37:43 AM
Stable coin is not useful when  you have the intension of making profit in the process but it is very useful to store huge amount of money that you do not what to withdraw yet.


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: avikz on December 19, 2018, 09:52:03 AM
I really am unable to digest the idea of "non-centralized stablecoin" as mentioned in the article. Stablecoins without a collateral and purely based on the market dynamics can prove disastrous. Even though the idea is simple behind that, but it's based on the market dynamics so it can't be crash proof. If the price increases, smart contract will issue additional coins to increase the supply and bring down the price. If the price decreases, smart contract will issue additional tokens to the existing holders with a "promise to pay" in future. What about the liquidity?? How the smart contract will ensure that it works for the stable coin itself without the intervention of the big hoarders/whales?? Wither I am not able to understand or is there a big gap in conceptualizing the "non-centralized stablecoin"??

Stable coins, to my idea, needs to be centralized and backed up by real-world asset which again needs to be properly audited to maintain the trust factor.


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: ivanleon on December 19, 2018, 05:59:38 PM
I think this article brings up a good point about stablecoins and their position next to bitcoin: https://www.strictlycrypto.com/stablecoins-why-does-the-ecosystem-needs-them/
Thoughts?

I have a positive attitude to stable coins. In this article I saw the thoughts that visited me, I have already expressed them in this forum. Of course, stable coins are now used to save investors funds during the bear market, but potentially they can be used as a means of payment, and the main cryptocurrencies Bitcoin and Ethereum in real life is an asset for investment.


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: A7373 on December 19, 2018, 11:26:13 PM
I think this article brings up a good point about stablecoins and their position next to bitcoin: https://www.strictlycrypto.com/stablecoins-why-does-the-ecosystem-needs-them/
Thoughts?

I have a positive attitude to stable coins. In this article I saw the thoughts that visited me, I have already expressed them in this forum. Of course, stable coins are now used to save investors funds during the bear market, but potentially they can be used as a means of payment, and the main cryptocurrencies Bitcoin and Ethereum in real life is an asset for investment.
Stablecoins are good for us becouse i can hold my money on the bear market. But for today there are a lot of stable coins, that can get scams any moment.


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: powerman24 on December 19, 2018, 11:31:45 PM

I think stable coins are needed as the crypto market is highly volatile. I would prefer decentralized stable coins not a centralized one like Tether. Watch out for DAI !  It is a decentralized one and as an economist I like the solution behind it.


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: chenille on December 19, 2018, 11:46:22 PM
I think this article brings up a good point about stablecoins and their position next to bitcoin: https://www.strictlycrypto.com/stablecoins-why-does-the-ecosystem-needs-them/
Thoughts?

I have a positive attitude to stable coins. In this article I saw the thoughts that visited me, I have already expressed them in this forum. Of course, stable coins are now used to save investors funds during the bear market, but potentially they can be used as a means of payment, and the main cryptocurrencies Bitcoin and Ethereum in real life is an asset for investment.
Stablecoins are good for us becouse me can hold our money on the bear market. But for today there are a lot of stable coins, that can get scams any moment.
I agree, stablecoins can be easily abused for the creator to launch a scam project. Nobody knows if the stablecoin is really backed 100% by Fiat money. Well, if we can say backed, I don't know if something can be backed by something which is not backed (what Fiat actually is since it's not backed by gold anymore)

I would not trust in stablecoins too much.


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: Nolimitz84 on December 20, 2018, 09:50:36 PM
I think this article brings up a good point about stablecoins and their position next to bitcoin: https://www.strictlycrypto.com/stablecoins-why-does-the-ecosystem-needs-them/
Thoughts?

I have a positive attitude to stable coins. In this article I saw the thoughts that visited me, I have already expressed them in this forum. Of course, stable coins are now used to save investors funds during the bear market, but potentially they can be used as a means of payment, and the main cryptocurrencies Bitcoin and Ethereum in real life is an asset for investment.
Stablecoins are good for us becouse me can hold our money on the bear market. But for today there are a lot of stable coins, that can get scams any moment.
I agree, stablecoins can be easily abused for the creator to launch a scam project. Nobody knows if the stablecoin is really backed 100% by Fiat money. Well, if we can say backed, I don't know if something can be backed by something which is not backed (what Fiat actually is since it's not backed by gold anymore)

I would not trust in stablecoins too much.
I agree. We can not fully trust stablecoins.Naturally many keep large amounts of in them.Because according to the theory they are practically not subject to volatility.I think that they were created in order to make transfers and store large sums of money.But I would not trust them 100%


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: WalkerIVIV on December 20, 2018, 10:34:25 PM
I think this article brings up a good point about stablecoins and their position next to bitcoin: https://www.strictlycrypto.com/stablecoins-why-does-the-ecosystem-needs-them/
Thoughts?

I have a positive attitude to stable coins. In this article I saw the thoughts that visited me, I have already expressed them in this forum. Of course, stable coins are now used to save investors funds during the bear market, but potentially they can be used as a means of payment, and the main cryptocurrencies Bitcoin and Ethereum in real life is an asset for investment.
Stablecoins are good for us becouse me can hold our money on the bear market. But for today there are a lot of stable coins, that can get scams any moment.
That means the stable coin gives the benefit only to the speculators and no more. It doesn't give any impact to the whole of crypto ecosystme. So many stable coin right now that created a very bad trend to the crypto.


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: A7373 on December 24, 2018, 06:38:43 PM
Heard the news about Bitfinex exchange created margin trade with new pairs: USD/USDT?
Im really surprised.


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: oudekaas on December 24, 2018, 09:14:31 PM
I think that stablecoins have positive influence on cryptomarket. But the ecosystem isn't needed in them. There are some coins which prices don't change at all. With stablecoins will come regulations.


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: smoolae on December 24, 2018, 09:31:25 PM
Stablecoins, in my eyes, do need to exist. The reason is that often times a one has to turn to stablecoins when the times get rough really fast and without any notice. For this and only this should stablecoins be used. The thing is that a lot of people use stablecoins as longtime holdings, that's a rather risky move to pull.

All it takes is someone to prove that there is no 1 to 1 backing to some certain stablecoin and it will explode out of existence.

So for short-term holding/decisions - yes, longtime holdings - no.


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: Herbert2020 on December 25, 2018, 07:34:22 AM
in my opinion people confuse two things. i believe we need stable coins but we do not need THESE stable coins.
the need is obvious since we need some sort of cryptocurrency that matches the things were trading with it which is cryptocurrencies. so that it can replace fiat and all the troubles that fiat has, specially the bank involvement in it and the troubles They cause!
but the problem is that the current existing stable coins are not only not-stable but also they are centralized so the only thing we were avoiding (the middle mad aka banks) is being re-introduced into the system through stable coins! which doesn't make any sense at all...


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: chakhigh on December 25, 2018, 09:02:57 AM
Stablecoins are not bad.. they are just an other solution for crypto price volatility.. I love the "Tokenized precious metals" model in the current Gigzi project. When fiat Stablecoins may be weak and don't have a strong "life span" ..Precious metal, like Gold can change the whole game..


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: Ociwiw on December 25, 2018, 09:15:50 AM
I think Stable coins of greater interest can be the government, not ordinary people!


Title: Re: Stablecoins and why the ecosystem needs them
Post by: funchiestz on December 25, 2018, 09:16:50 AM
I think this article brings up a good point about stablecoins and their position next to bitcoin: https://www.strictlycrypto.com/stablecoins-why-does-the-ecosystem-needs-them/

Thoughts?

I agree that Stablecoins facilitate the trading of crypto money. But it still doesn't feel like a must. Or it sounds like we could find better solutions.