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Title: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: helmax on March 10, 2014, 01:53:31 AM I've never felt like this
I lost about 4.70 btc thought I was buying a mining machine and had me I paid with my money from the Bank I want to cry so much sweat to work to buy a machine and I'm conned and even miserable :'( this fackers guys skypepcfli ecsrow.ms 1LpsXbirDYE6qz1YHfJgU6nKKrqKNJWe9D just a rant i not understand why bitcointalk not implement system for this scammers Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: stsbrad on March 10, 2014, 01:57:45 AM I've never felt like this I lost about 4.70 btc thought I was buying a mining machine and had me I paid with my money from the Bank I want to cry so much sweat to work to buy a machine and I'm conned and even miserable :'( this fackers guys skypepcfli ecsrow.ms 1LpsXbirDYE6qz1YHfJgU6nKKrqKNJWe9D just a rant i not understand why bitcointalk not implement system for this scammers How did it happen? Also you're a full member. How did you not know better? So terribly sorry. Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: helmax on March 10, 2014, 02:00:15 AM I went in blind mode
It seemed all right in the end ... just bad feeling Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: Predatorian on March 10, 2014, 02:03:23 AM I've never felt like this I lost about 4.70 btc thought I was buying a mining machine and had me I paid with my money from the Bank I want to cry so much sweat to work to buy a machine and I'm conned and even miserable :'( this fackers guys skypepcfli ecsrow.ms 1LpsXbirDYE6qz1YHfJgU6nKKrqKNJWe9D just a rant i not understand why bitcointalk not implement system for this scammers So sorry for ur lost, make thread in scammer accusations and next time just be more watchful. Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: Taras on March 10, 2014, 02:06:01 AM Condolences...
I hope this will at least keep some readers from making the same mistake. Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: franky1 on March 10, 2014, 02:11:31 AM if you contacted them through this forum or if they have a website they use for their advertising. put it in the scammer accusations thread.
give more details as to how the communication started, was it through a friend, was it through IRC or Reddit, craigslist or here. details of what they promised you and timescales. etc. the more details the better as it helps people spot similar extortions. just showing a name doesn't mean much, scammers are making a new name everyday. so its more about the sales pitch and story they tell that reveals them. Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: stsbrad on March 10, 2014, 02:12:05 AM Details would be super but there appears to be a language gap.
Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: Bitmonedo on March 10, 2014, 02:12:28 AM I know the feeling i also lost 4 coins to bitwash those damn escrow make you feel safe and then they keep your money.
Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: stsbrad on March 10, 2014, 02:13:39 AM Oh so he's saying it's the escrow service that got him?
Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: helmax on March 10, 2014, 02:16:01 AM franky1 today i cant help people
and my job is helping people iam firefighter my heart has a strong pain serious i never wait this happened with me buy miner machine this is really sad ... start with group hardware miner after skype seller give me escrow Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: ozzymax on March 10, 2014, 02:20:13 AM Sorry to hear of your loss, I just came across this shame you didn't see this thread before https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=480559.0
Maybe contact Skype explain what happened maybe they can release the scammers IP address Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: Tomatocage on March 10, 2014, 03:42:31 AM Was it of pcfli from this forum?
Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: bobsag3 on March 10, 2014, 03:58:23 AM I purchased 2 machines thru him using OGNasty for escrow... so dont know what to say
Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: helmax on March 10, 2014, 08:18:03 AM @Tomatocage yes
@bobsag3 if you can talk with him for give my money stoled it was a great help Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: Tomatocage on March 10, 2014, 08:21:49 AM I just pm'd him asking him to take a look at this thread and clarify the matter.
Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: pcfli on March 10, 2014, 08:26:51 AM I've never felt like this I lost about 4.70 btc thought I was buying a mining machine and had me I paid with my money from the Bank I want to cry so much sweat to work to buy a machine and I'm conned and even miserable :'( this fackers guys skypepcfli ecsrow.ms 1LpsXbirDYE6qz1YHfJgU6nKKrqKNJWe9D just a rant i not understand why bitcointalk not implement system for this scammers Sorry for your lost, but i never have deal with you, can you post some proof, my id in bitcointalk is pcfli and skypepcfli is my skype id Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: pcfli on March 10, 2014, 08:31:10 AM I purchased 2 machines thru him using OGNasty for escrow... so dont know what to say not 2 but four, i have delivered three unit to you today, and another one will be delivered tommorrow, i have explained the reason in mail ,and will send you 0.13 btc for compensate Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: helmax on March 10, 2014, 08:34:00 AM if not you who is it?
http://imgur.com/3yz1hlx Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: pcfli on March 10, 2014, 08:40:59 AM cannot open that link, can you send a email to me:peicaili@gmail.com
Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: pcfli on March 10, 2014, 08:43:30 AM cannot open that link, there are some website like youtube, facebook we cannot open in china, please send the picture directly to my email:peicaili@gmail.com
Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: iram3130 on March 10, 2014, 08:47:08 AM if not you who is it? http://imgur.com/3yz1hlx When I see the picture there are two skpepcfli one has capital S (Skpepcfli) and the other is not capital s (skpepcfli). Maybe the one of this is the legit. Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: pcfli on March 10, 2014, 10:15:41 AM how much you lost,buddy, i decide to help you because it is your trust on me lead to the lost, i will give you 0.1btc for every deal i make with other people from now, also i will provide cheap miner to you, you will get 200$ discount if you buy miners from me. Hope that will help you get rid of the pain of lost money.
Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: DarkComet on March 10, 2014, 10:40:10 AM You go first to them on skype without any proof of pms? Youre smart
Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: DarkComet on March 10, 2014, 11:11:14 AM Well he has an impersonator with the dot at the end of his name, and that's not him ..
Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: pcfli on March 10, 2014, 02:18:40 PM Will you also return my 3.61014256 BTC? Unfortunately, I was dumb enough not to use escrow. Helmax, you at least attempted to utilize escrow. I will be posting another thread once I am able to get all the screen shots uploaded. i didnot receive any of you btc, you does asked me to send your a PM, i will paste the chat record here, [2014/3/9 4:13:23] fire juan: Hi! me interesed miners [2014/3/9 5:16:18] *** skypepcfli has shared contact details with fire juan. *** [2014/3/9 5:21:40] fire juan: Hi [2014/3/9 5:23:51] skypepcfli: hi [2014/3/9 5:24:06] skypepcfli: i have seen your eamil and just reply it [2014/3/9 5:25:42] fire juan: ok I see [2014/3/9 5:26:16] fire juan: I am firejuan on [Suspicious link removed] with title March Bitcoin. Thanks [2014/3/9 5:26:33] skypepcfli: ok [2014/3/9 5:27:54] skypepcfli: sent [2014/3/9 5:28:26] skypepcfli: you said you have talked to me in skype and pay partial payment [2014/3/9 5:28:34] skypepcfli: are you cheated by some people [2014/3/9 5:28:59] skypepcfli: it seems like i just add you as contact this morning [2014/3/9 5:29:28] fire juan: no this is me [2014/3/9 5:29:37] fire juan: you confused [2014/3/9 5:29:53] fire juan: I'm just confused [2014/3/9 5:37:18] skypepcfli: on what [2014/3/9 5:38:14] fire juan: I have another seller paid for the part of the miner and mixed it with you [2014/3/9 5:38:17] fire juan: alright [2014/3/9 5:43:51] skypepcfli: ok [2014/3/9 5:43:55] skypepcfli: i understand [2014/3/9 5:44:45] fire juan: I write to you in the evening and we'll talk to order, now you need to go [2014/3/9 5:44:47] fire juan: (handshake) [2014/3/9 5:52:05] skypepcfli: ok [2014/3/9 5:52:17] skypepcfli: so you want buy two unit from me [2014/3/9 5:52:20] skypepcfli: am i right [2014/3/9 5:52:40] skypepcfli: the price now is 5000$ and the miner will send to you before 11 March [2014/3/9 7:31:15] skypepcfli: do you want to buy miners today Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: iram3130 on March 10, 2014, 02:37:07 PM Based on the picture posted the scam victims are chatting to this user "Skypepcfli" the real account is skypepcfli.
Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: DarkComet on March 10, 2014, 02:40:58 PM Based on the picture posted the scam victims are chatting to this user "Skypepcfli" the real account is skypepcfli. No, the false account is skypepcfli. Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: bobsag3 on March 10, 2014, 02:59:19 PM I purchased 2 machines thru him using OGNasty for escrow... so dont know what to say not 2 but four, i have delivered three unit to you today, and another one will be delivered tommorrow, i have explained the reason in mail ,and will send you 0.13 btc for compensate Haha I got confused, this is all correct, and I have my tracking number already. Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: helmax on March 10, 2014, 03:36:23 PM Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: SVK on March 10, 2014, 03:56:28 PM Last Thursday I was scammed by a guy who used same nick as a guy I have done trades with in the past. He has just put "-" behind the nick :(
2 BTC 349 PPC 40 LTC GONE :( I really feel with you but we have to be careful in this dodge times :( Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: helmax on March 10, 2014, 04:11:23 PM he scammed people get 13 bitcoins
https://blockchain.info/pt/address/1idqBEJyNfEFiyBHwK3ZqS6GwbQcyVtui Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: DarkComet on March 10, 2014, 04:23:58 PM Did this guy scam 13 bitcoins in total?
Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: pcfli on March 10, 2014, 04:42:00 PM i have told you , i never receive any of your btc , i do real business and many moderator can prove that, sorry for your lost, the time will prove who is the honest man Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: helmax on March 10, 2014, 04:44:49 PM you cant prove nothing idiot
your wallet say everything!! prove who is the honest man no one say that only me on the skype you need a hole to bury you send my money back Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: SaltySpitoon on March 10, 2014, 05:07:53 PM i have told you , i never receive any of your btc , i do real business and many moderator can prove that, sorry for your lost, the time will prove who is the honest man I have escrowed a few deals for pcfli where he sold hardware to people, everyone has always got their stuff. That doesn't mean he would be trustworthy without escrow, but that does indeed mean that its worth double checking to make sure it was indeed pcfli. Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: helmax on March 10, 2014, 05:12:09 PM SaltySpitoon can say who make deal?
for ask address this scammer Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: pcfli on March 10, 2014, 05:12:38 PM http://i61.tinypic.com/1zdb3wi.png scammer name is Pei Cai Li is from Nantong china it is true that my name is peicai Li and from nantong china, and my id No. is 410223198209174051, and the ID number of my car is 苏F82C15, so if anyone want to learn more information about me, i will be very happy to provide. As for you, helmax, i have asked escrow.ms, he confirm that it is some one else fake his name just like they fake my name, I understand your felling of lost money, and i have send 0.1 btc today to you for comfort, i also promise i will send 0.1 btc to you for every deal i make until you get your money back , i also promise you can get 200$ discount for every miner you bought from me. why you still keep yelling to me. I don't want to judge your decision, but it is clearly a scamer if some one claim that you can buy one 1 T miner at the price of 4 btc today, if it is true, i guess the miners will be sold out in few hours. Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: iram3130 on March 10, 2014, 05:12:50 PM Looks like he is using a fake escrow based on this thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=508731.0
Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: helmax on March 10, 2014, 05:18:59 PM This guy is crazy
the worst kind I ever saw i never say buy 1T miner in this topic on you on skype scammer send money fuck scammer you need BIG BIG HOLE Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: pcfli on March 11, 2014, 01:43:28 AM Dirty scammer he says he didn't contact me until 3-9 but here is the proof he contacted me before that https://i.imgur.com/9PCZvGf.jpg (http://imgur.com/9PCZvGf) that caused by different time zone, China are 8 hours ahead the time used in the forum, the local time is 9:45 AM 11 March now, but the time i post this reply is 1:45 AM as shown in forum Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: pcfli on March 12, 2014, 05:15:39 PM I reply the issue here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=488372.msg5662242#msg5662242 Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: helmax on March 12, 2014, 05:33:13 PM you are the big moth*r fuc**r
you want try clean your shit but you cant https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKLFMt3B.jpg&t=538&c=__ENTp4VYdLGaA Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: iram3130 on March 16, 2014, 02:00:09 PM I'm did not know any users in both parties. Just made me very curious who is telling the truth.
Helmax screenshot. http://imgur.com/3yz1hlx pcfli screenshot of firejuan telling to pm him. https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F2myvlop.jpg&t=538&c=3rzF0NwWw1e4yQ Skypepcfli [capital s] ---- comfirmed helmax and firejuan chatted skypepcfli [small s] --- pcfli comfirmed he is using this one. Escrow.ms --- confirmed skype impersonator scammer by real bitcointalk.org user escrow.ms Helmax send his bitcoin to skype user Escrow.ms https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=508731.0 . firejuan send his bitcoin to skype user Skypepcfli [capital s] Firejuan do you message and added both the two skypepcfli? Does the pcfli screenshot legit? What do I missed here? Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: pcfli on March 17, 2014, 11:03:37 PM i never see your btc, if what you said is ture, it seems like that we are both fooled by the same scammer, i have notice that two people have send me email from different email address and said it is fire juan, one is firejuanchen@gmail.com and another firejuan22@hotmail.com and there are two people in my skype contact too named fire juan, but the real skype name is xantrax125rus and live:firejuan22. so the case is that scammer faked both my id and your id and fool us at the same time. if it is the case, the pm i send to you does loose your security, and responisble partly for your loose.
The compensate plan for fire juan Several days ago, i was involved in one scam issue against me raised by fire juan, and after overview the whole thing in detail, we find out the scammer faked both i and his skype id, email and fooled us at the same time. because I send a PM to firejuan following the scammer’s requirement loose his security and thus i am partly responsible for his lost. As a compensate, i set this plan with him. Fire Juan lost 3.61 btc in total in the following two transactions 88a5ca66df3391bf1ed16b0d7f423690464da4657651d88f23f830dde398b463 and 88a5ca66df3391bf1ed16b0d7f423690464da4657651d88f23f830dde398b463 So i will give him 10 coupons and each valued 125$ (total value 1250$ or 2 btc ) and can be used to buy 1T miner from me, but only one coupon can be used for one miner and can not be used with other discount together. After all these 10 coupons are used, i will give him another 20 coupons and each value 50$(total value 1000$ or 1.6 btc) with the same use limit. This is all the thing i can do to help him out of the pain of lost btc. i have benefit a lot from the honest moderator in forum, i cannot sell even one miner without their help and the people’s trust on me. So i do not want any people lost their faith on btc because of the scammer, the faith is the base of btc world, Hope my little effort will make the btc world better. Thanks for all people who concern this issue and thanks for all the people who support me in this issue and thanks for the people who trust me and send btc to me directly even know i am involved in the scam issue. Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: firejuan on April 13, 2014, 10:09:22 AM The A-Z story of the scammer issue against me Hello, everyone, i feel it is the time for me to write a long thread to clarify the scam issue on my side. I will list what happened to me these days, What happened between me and the member firejuan, i will list the conversation between us with time March 05: firejuan reply in my topic and say he have interest to buy a minerin the price of 19999 Yuan approximately = $3264 plus shipping on March 18. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=488372.msg5521605#msg5521605 I reply with him that This price is not included the shipment fee, also i need some profit to cover the risk of through custom, and told him to send a email to peicaili@gmail.com, then i can inform him the newest price at the first time March 08 1) 02:13:18 PM Firejuan reply in my topic and say “Looking forward to getting my hands on a Dragon Miner. Can't wait pcfli.” https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=488372.msg5587217#msg5587217 2) 03:01:53 PM After read his reply, i think he is a potential buyer and send him a PM and tell him that the price is 5000$ as shown here http://i57.tinypic.com/2ltlt1e.jpg 3) 03:05:09 PM He reply a PM and say “ I have already spoken with you on Skype and sent partial payment.” http://i62.tinypic.com/2r70spt.jpg 4) 03:09:16 PM I am a little confused here so i ask what is his skype ID http://i61.tinypic.com/244az5s.jpg 5) 03:12:29 PM he reply my PM and said “I think firejuan22 something similar to my forum ID” http://i61.tinypic.com/2z8syaa.jpg 6) 03:14:18 PM i go to my skype and find there is no person called that name so i send a PM to him saying:are you sure you have talked to me on skype? my skype id is:skypepcfli. http://i57.tinypic.com/rtfbkx.jpg 03:21:35 PM he send me another PM and saying: Skypepcfli I understood well will be in touch, write when you're ready to pay immediately or pay at this address 1Fyx2kNB4Uov3cDxPSxPoJPZstTLDhYHXc As a matter of fact, i didn’t get what he trying to say, it seems like he asked me to pay him.so i ignore it without reply. http://i57.tinypic.com/20qnqwy.jpg 9-Mar 4:13 AM: (beijing time, it is 9:13 PM 8 March in forum) he add me in skype (beijing time), i am still in sleep and do not reply him http://i61.tinypic.com/2isy4wi.jpg 4:20 AM (beijing time, 6 hours ahead of the time used in forum , so it is 9:40 PM 8 March in forum) he send me a email from firejuanchen@gmail.com and say he is interested in buying two miners 5:23 AM(beijing time, it is 9:23 PM 8 Mach in forum) I wake up and reply him atand clearly say the price is 5000$ for each miner. http://i62.tinypic.com/20kt943.jpg 5:23 AM(beijing time, it is 9:23 PM 8 March in forum) After reply his mail, i checked the skype and found out his requirement to add me as contact, I accept , and start the conversation. 5:26 AM((beijing time, it is 9:26 PM 8 March in forum) he asked me to send him a PM with title March Bitcoin, 5:27 AM(beijing time , it is 9:27 PM 8 Mach in forum) I did it as he requirement, http://i62.tinypic.com/2s9cf13.jpg 5:28 AM(beijing time, it is 9:28 PM 8 march in forum) after that , i realized something is wrong because he said ”Before I send any more BTC ca you send me a PM from bitcointalk.org with title March Bitcoin. Thanks”. But i never receive any btc from him, so i warned him that he maybe cheated by some one else as you can see in chat record. He answered “I have another seller paid for the part of the miner and mixed it with you” http://i62.tinypic.com/2myvlop.jpg 5:44 AM, (beijing time, it is 9:40 PM 8 March in forum) he said he would like to order 2 miners and i say it is ok and clarify again that the price is 5000$ for each miner. http://i58.tinypic.com/1110y28.jpg 10-March-2014 I learned from tomatocage that member helmax raised an Scam accusation against me in the following link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=508790.0 After reading this topic, i learned that someone faked a name Skypepcfli and escrow.ms to cheat people, then i realized that firejane maybe involved the same scam and i send the following word to confirm my assumption, but he didnot reply, this is all i conversation with him. http://i62.tinypic.com/11vph8o.jpg As for the other guys called helmax the thing is much simple , i didnot know him until tomatocage tell me he raise a scam issue against me and he add me in skype in 9 march and start the first conversation with me in 10 March and keep saying “send my money back” http://i57.tinypic.com/16kw9w8.jpg i never see your btc, if what you said is ture, it seems like that we are both fooled by the same scammer, i have notice that two people have send me email from different email address and said it is fire juan, one is firejuanchen@gmail.com and another firejuan22@hotmail.com and there are two people in my skype contact too named fire juan, but the real skype name is xantrax125rus and live:firejuan22. so the case is that scammer faked both my id and your id and fool us at the same time. if it is the case, the pm i send to you does loose your security, and responisble partly for your loose. The compensate plan for fire juan Several days ago, i was involved in one scam issue against me raised by fire juan, and after overview the whole thing in detail, we find out the scammer faked both i and his skype id, email and fooled us at the same time. because I send a PM to firejuan following the scammer’s requirement loose his security and thus i am partly responsible for his lost. As a compensate, i set this plan with him. Fire Juan lost 3.61 btc in total in the following two transactions 88a5ca66df3391bf1ed16b0d7f423690464da4657651d88f23f830dde398b463 and 88a5ca66df3391bf1ed16b0d7f423690464da4657651d88f23f830dde398b463 So i will give him 10 coupons and each valued 125$ (total value 1250$ or 2 btc ) and can be used to buy 1T miner from me, but only one coupon can be used for one miner and can not be used with other discount together. After all these 10 coupons are used, i will give him another 20 coupons and each value 50$(total value 1000$ or 1.6 btc) with the same use limit. This is all the thing i can do to help him out of the pain of lost btc. i have benefit a lot from the honest moderator in forum, i cannot sell even one miner without their help and the people’s trust on me. So i do not want any people lost their faith on btc because of the scammer, the faith is the base of btc world, Hope my little effort will make the btc world better. Thanks for all people who concern this issue and thanks for all the people who support me in this issue and thanks for the people who trust me and send btc to me directly even know i am involved in the scam issue. Title: Re: Sad day stole my bitcoin Post by: DiamondCardz on April 13, 2014, 10:39:48 AM Wait what, how did helmax starting a thread which looks like your average impersonator case turn into pcfli talking about what happened between him and firejuan?
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