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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: Behat1981 on December 22, 2018, 05:22:26 AM



Title: Scam Attempt by Mr.Soft
Post by: Behat1981 on December 22, 2018, 05:22:26 AM
What happened: This user contacted me on Telegram to sell me his MSDN INVITE and we agreed on a price and he asked me to send first and gave me some useless story about being scammed and I would have to send first which I refused and told him to make a listing on bitify and send me the link which he agreed and never responded since

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2408222

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5061166
Amount Scammed: 0
Payment Method: N/A
Proof of Payment: N/A
PM/Chat Logs: Included below

https://i.imgur.com/aWbO8ya.png
https://i.imgur.com/MrJWbC8.png
https://i.imgur.com/5xCpkOD.png
https://i.imgur.com/CC2UzZj.png
https://i.imgur.com/99US9XN.png
https://i.imgur.com/wKxWpJ2.png
https://i.imgur.com/6q6A3Ro.png
https://i.imgur.com/H8LcLxG.png


Title: Re: Scam Attempt by Mr.Soft
Post by: playboy654 on December 22, 2018, 06:42:28 AM
Worth tag,but can you mention that did he blocked you after that or he never came online after that?

P.S:If someone is having self moderating thread for selling something then chance of scam is highly possible.


Title: Re: Scam Attempt by Mr.Soft
Post by: The Cryptovator on December 22, 2018, 04:32:42 PM
Why are you not try to use escrow from our forum. User did not scammed you, I don't think DT will tag him based on your evidence. Because you wrote your self Scammed amount 0. Someone should not be tag just for hr did not sent you first or he did not responding you. Telegram chat is not worth of tag. Please use forum escrow on future if you want to trade something. Its more safe from other website.


I have doubted on his other activity which is worth of red tag, user Mr.Soft (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2408222) has been applied for loan on four thread today:

Collateral:- LinkedIn account, Localbitcoin account, limited company ownership
Collateral:- LinkedIn account, Localbitcoin account, limited company ownership
Collateral:- LinkedIn account, Localbitcoin account, limited company ownership
Collateral:- LinkedIn account, Localbitcoin account, limited company ownership

Above all post are just copy paste. I think his intention is scam.  


Title: Re: Scam Attempt by Mr.Soft
Post by: Behat1981 on December 23, 2018, 03:20:36 AM
Why are you not try to use escrow from our forum. User did not scammed you, I don't think DT will tag him based on your evidence. Because you wrote your self Scammed amount 0. Someone should not be tag just for hr did not sent you first or he did not responding you. Telegram chat is not worth of tag. Please use forum escrow on future if you want to trade something. Its more safe from other website.


I have doubted on his other activity which is worth of red tag, user Mr.Soft (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2408222) has been applied for loan on four thread today:

Collateral:- LinkedIn account, Localbitcoin account, limited company ownership
Collateral:- LinkedIn account, Localbitcoin account, limited company ownership
Collateral:- LinkedIn account, Localbitcoin account, limited company ownership
Collateral:- LinkedIn account, Localbitcoin account, limited company ownership

Above all post are just copy paste. I think his intention is scam.  
My thread is clear, he tried to scam me and forum escrow is expensive and takes forever to organise, while bitify takes 2 minutes to make a listing and send it to the other party to make payment.


Title: Re: Scam Attempt by Mr.Soft
Post by: playboy654 on December 24, 2018, 05:33:53 PM
My thread is clear, he tried to scam me and forum escrow is expensive and takes forever to organise, while bitify takes 2 minutes to make a listing and send it to the other party to make payment.
The escrow fee are not much expensive tho.

From Few Trusted Escrow Provider (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5047302.0) this thread,you can find most of the trusted escrows of this forum and most people with the fee of 1%,most cheap escrow is Darkstar_ with the fee of 0.7%.


Title: Re: Scam Attempt by Mr.Soft
Post by: jhenfelipe on December 24, 2018, 06:21:15 PM
My thread is clear, he tried to scam me and forum escrow is expensive and takes forever to organise, while bitify takes 2 minutes to make a listing and send it to the other party to make payment.
Idk if he's a scammer or not, but next time you do a trade you should put your feet in the shoes of the other person too. Since you both didn't know each other, he felt and thought the same way as you (unsure if the service/payment will be delivered). Having a trusted escrow involved would be the best solution in such cases (I doubt that it will take forever).


Title: Re: Scam Attempt by Mr.Soft
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on December 24, 2018, 08:08:16 PM
I don't see a scam happening here--what I see is two members who don't trust each other enough to send their money/item first and also aren't willing to use escrow.  OP, you might think escrow is too slow or expensive, but it's worth your peace of mind.  And hey, as it stands you didn't get this deal done and wasted time making a scam accusation thread that probably isn't going to result in any action taken against the accused.  That time could have been better spent finding an escrow, and the outcome would most likely have been better.

It's natural for people to not trust each other when crypto is involved and it's why there are escrow services available on bitcointalk.  If he stopped responding to you, OP, he probably just gave up on the deal and didn't want to waste any more time bickering/haggling.

It's obvious you didn't read all the Pics, I gave him an option to make a listing on bitify
I did read them all.  I don't do a lot of trading or buying/selling things with bitcoin and don't know anything about what bitify is, so my bad.  However, I stand by my opinion that him ceasing to contact you after all of those messages doesn't make him a scammer.  He might in fact be one, but there's not enough evidence IMO for any DT member to tag him.


Title: Re: Scam Attempt by Mr.Soft
Post by: Behat1981 on December 26, 2018, 10:27:19 AM
I don't see a scam happening here--what I see is two members who don't trust each other enough to send their money/item first and also aren't willing to use escrow.  OP, you might think escrow is too slow or expensive, but it's worth your peace of mind.  And hey, as it stands you didn't get this deal done and wasted time making a scam accusation thread that probably isn't going to result in any action taken against the accused.  That time could have been better spent finding an escrow, and the outcome would most likely have been better.

It's natural for people to not trust each other when crypto is involved and it's why there are escrow services available on bitcointalk.  If he stopped responding to you, OP, he probably just gave up on the deal and didn't want to waste any more time bickering/haggling.
It's obvious you didn't read all the Pics, I gave him an option to make a listing on bitify and send me the link to pay and he agreed, but after agreeing he stopped responding and I made this for all the people who might want to deal with him.