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Title: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 10, 2014, 03:36:09 AM http://oi61.tinypic.com/2a5aqn7.jpg
http://www.indianz.com/News/2014/012781.asp Quote Native Sun News: Oglala Sioux Tribe surprised by MazaCoin plan Friday, March 7, 2014 Filed Under: Business | National | Technology More on: native sun news, oglala sioux, south dakota The following story was written and reported by Brandon Ecoffey, Native Sun News Managing Editor. All content © Native Sun News. The logo for MazaCoin, a proposed digital currency that the Oglala Sioux Tribe has not officially endorsed. Man claims OST has launched own currency Council and President taken by surprise By Brandon Ecoffey Native Sun News Managing Editor PINE RIDGE — The Oglala Sioux Tribe supposedly launched its own national currency. However no one bothered to inform Tribal President Bryan Brewer or the Oglala Sioux Tribal Council. When contacted by Native Sun News President Brewer said that he was unaware of any official move by the tribe to launch a new currency. “There has been no action taken by the council to approve of a new currency. The economic development office gave a letter of support to Harris to continue to research the industry and that was it. As far as it being an official currency of the tribe that is not true at all. Any action like that would need to go through the council,” said President Brewer. Last week Forbes Magazine reported that a new currency had been adopted by the Oglala Sioux Tribe and that the new currency was being promoted by Payu Harris and traded on the global market. Forbes claimed that Harris was a member of the tribe, however, there is no one on the rolls named Payu Harris or Payu Kimitsu. The Mazacoin that Harris is claiming to be the official currency of the “Traditional Lakota Nation” is a digital currency that falls under the realm of cryptocurrency and is modeled after the more established Bitcoin. Essentially Bitcoins are a way of exchanging value digitally. It is not a unit of currency that can be exchanged physically, only through the internet. It is unregulated by any government watchdog like the Federal Reserve. Once a person invests in a Bitcoin they are forced to set up a digital wallet online usually through a third party who stores the value of the investment. The currency was created in 2009 by Satoshi Nakamoto who was frustrated by the swaying value of current currencies and the ability of governments to raise inflation by simply printing more money. The problem with not being regulated by a government entity is that there is also no protection for the currency once it is in a digital wallet online. Unlike Federal insured banks that will back savings up to $100,000 there is none and many fear that Bitcoins are under the constant threat of hackers. In an interview with Forbes, Payu Harris who has also gone by the name Payu Kimitsu touts the Mazacoin as the new buffalo for the Oglala Sioux Tribe. “I think cryptocurrencies could be the new buffalo,” he says. “Once, it was everything for our survival. We used it for food, for clothes, for everything. It was our economy. I think MazaCoin could serve the same purpose,” Harris told Forbes. “I want to get my people educated and show them this is the next level of finance,” he said. “Let’s make the rest of the world play catch up. Let’s be leaders and rebuild the economy on our terms. We’re not going to ask the federal government if we can do this. I refuse to ask them to do anything within my own borders. When you have children going hungry, it’s time to focus.” In the interview with Forbes Harris is referred to as a Chief and the author states to have contacted unnamed elders who reportedly referred Forbes back to Harris. According to the Mazacoin website there are two initial phases that the group will look to complete. “In the second phase of the MazaCoin pre-mine, the MazaCoin Development Team will pre-mine 25 million MZC as a starting point for the MazaCoin Tribal Trust. The MazaCoin Tribal Trust will give grants of MazaCoin to any Tribal member, business or charity of the Traditional Lakota Nation. Grants are set to be 1000 MZC for individuals, 10,000 MZC for businesses and 50,000 MZC for non-profit Tribal organizations. With the initial pre-mine coupled with future mining and donations the MazaCoin National Trust will be able to give these grants out indefinitely,” it reads. The link provided to the Traditional Lakota Nation leads to a page that lists tribal government information and numbers to the official Oglala Sioux Tribe. The website also states that public ledger is available for viewing but was unworkable during the writing of this story. Attempts by Native Sun News to contact Harris went unanswered and an interview request was declined by Harris earlier in this year. I've been asked about the content of a certain leaked email between "Pirate" the brain behind Mazacoin and the @bitcoinsachs blogger Here it is: https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442489676159385602 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442486855703855104 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442488295134466048 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442489098721189888 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442489227813462016 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442489368129716224 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442490025402310656 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442490167182368770 Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: blueangel01 on March 10, 2014, 03:42:26 AM I don't get it. Is this a relaunch or what?
Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 10, 2014, 03:43:03 AM Devs were busy beavers and released this sister coin http://www.maplecoin.cf/ to mazacoin.org
Notice the rip off web site design and even the Mazacoin copy paste they forgot to remove. Same as mazacoin this website makes same outrageous unsubstantiated claims. Quote MapleCoin is an all new fork of the LiteCoin project that branched from BitCoin. MapleCoin is the National Crypto-Currency of Canada. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 10, 2014, 03:46:31 AM I don't get it. Is this a relaunch or what? This is just a factual information thread about Mazacoin. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 10, 2014, 03:49:15 AM Quote Native Sun News: Oglala Sioux Tribe surprised by MazaCoin plan Friday, March 7, 2014 Filed Under: Business | National | Technology More on: native sun news, oglala sioux, south dakota The following story was written and reported by Brandon Ecoffey, Native Sun News Managing Editor. All content © Native Sun News. The logo for MazaCoin, a proposed digital currency that the Oglala Sioux Tribe has not officially endorsed. Man claims OST has launched own currency Council and President taken by surprise By Brandon Ecoffey Native Sun News Managing Editor PINE RIDGE — The Oglala Sioux Tribe supposedly launched its own national currency. However no one bothered to inform Tribal President Bryan Brewer or the Oglala Sioux Tribal Council. When contacted by Native Sun News President Brewer said that he was unaware of any official move by the tribe to launch a new currency. “There has been no action taken by the council to approve of a new currency. The economic development office gave a letter of support to Harris to continue to research the industry and that was it. As far as it being an official currency of the tribe that is not true at all. Any action like that would need to go through the council,” said President Brewer. Last week Forbes Magazine reported that a new currency had been adopted by the Oglala Sioux Tribe and that the new currency was being promoted by Payu Harris and traded on the global market. Forbes claimed that Harris was a member of the tribe, however, there is no one on the rolls named Payu Harris or Payu Kimitsu. The Mazacoin that Harris is claiming to be the official currency of the “Traditional Lakota Nation” is a digital currency that falls under the realm of cryptocurrency and is modeled after the more established Bitcoin. Essentially Bitcoins are a way of exchanging value digitally. It is not a unit of currency that can be exchanged physically, only through the internet. It is unregulated by any government watchdog like the Federal Reserve. Once a person invests in a Bitcoin they are forced to set up a digital wallet online usually through a third party who stores the value of the investment. The currency was created in 2009 by Satoshi Nakamoto who was frustrated by the swaying value of current currencies and the ability of governments to raise inflation by simply printing more money. The problem with not being regulated by a government entity is that there is also no protection for the currency once it is in a digital wallet online. Unlike Federal insured banks that will back savings up to $100,000 there is none and many fear that Bitcoins are under the constant threat of hackers. In an interview with Forbes, Payu Harris who has also gone by the name Payu Kimitsu touts the Mazacoin as the new buffalo for the Oglala Sioux Tribe. “I think cryptocurrencies could be the new buffalo,” he says. “Once, it was everything for our survival. We used it for food, for clothes, for everything. It was our economy. I think MazaCoin could serve the same purpose,” Harris told Forbes. “I want to get my people educated and show them this is the next level of finance,” he said. “Let’s make the rest of the world play catch up. Let’s be leaders and rebuild the economy on our terms. We’re not going to ask the federal government if we can do this. I refuse to ask them to do anything within my own borders. When you have children going hungry, it’s time to focus.” In the interview with Forbes Harris is referred to as a Chief and the author states to have contacted unnamed elders who reportedly referred Forbes back to Harris. According to the Mazacoin website there are two initial phases that the group will look to complete. “In the second phase of the MazaCoin pre-mine, the MazaCoin Development Team will pre-mine 25 million MZC as a starting point for the MazaCoin Tribal Trust. The MazaCoin Tribal Trust will give grants of MazaCoin to any Tribal member, business or charity of the Traditional Lakota Nation. Grants are set to be 1000 MZC for individuals, 10,000 MZC for businesses and 50,000 MZC for non-profit Tribal organizations. With the initial pre-mine coupled with future mining and donations the MazaCoin National Trust will be able to give these grants out indefinitely,” it reads. The link provided to the Traditional Lakota Nation leads to a page that lists tribal government information and numbers to the official Oglala Sioux Tribe. The website also states that public ledger is available for viewing but was unworkable during the writing of this story. Attempts by Native Sun News to contact Harris went unanswered and an interview request was declined by Harris earlier in this year. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: neuroMode on March 10, 2014, 03:57:25 AM Guys, I copied the "screenshot" from @Mazacoin's twitter and then copied a real screenshot from the Google Play Store (The Bitcoin Wallet: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet)
I pasted them both into Paint (simple, you can do it to). Put them side-by-side and do a zoom (will magnify both images equally). Tell me, why is there a ton of pixelation all over the Mazacoin while the Bitcoin Wallet screenshot looks crisper? Is there a photoshop job happening with @Mazacoin's Android wallet that is causing strange compression issues with the pixels? I seriously want to get your opinions because this looks very shady. I guess we'll know tomorrow but this looks like a setup. https://i.imgur.com/eTGu9xS.png I'm happy to admit I'm wrong but the Android wallet pic looked extremely grainy to me. Look closely. Full size image is here since bitcointalk.org's display size is smaller than what I'm trying to show you: https://i.imgur.com/eTGu9xS.png Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 10, 2014, 08:57:33 PM I see the other thread was closed by request of OP. Those who don't like the nazi moderation from the thread he created can post here.
I promise not to delete anything but spam and huge letter posts. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: damiano on March 10, 2014, 09:04:46 PM I can honestly give 2 shits about this, but I have to wonder about your postings now
Just walk away and forget about mazacoin as a whole. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 10, 2014, 09:05:53 PM I can honestly give 2 shits about this, but I have to wonder about your postings now Just walk away and forget about mazacoin as a whole. I've stated my motivation 2 or 3 times already. You're free to search through the posts to find it. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: biboun on March 10, 2014, 09:12:25 PM why don't you just ignore all this maza coin stuff and start doing something useful for your life ?
Either you've lost a lot of money and are very angry about this coin. Or you just wan't to drop the price down so you can buy and make profit. In both case we've heard you...too much (and don't be the nazi moderator you hate..) Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 10, 2014, 09:15:40 PM why don't you just ignore all this maza coin stuff and start doing something useful for your life ? Either you've lost a lot of money and are very angry about this coin. Or you just wan't to drop the price down so you can buy and make profit. In both case we've heard you...too much (and don't be the nazi moderator you hate..) You can research my posts I've clearly stated my motivation. Quote I've openly supported this coin until truth came out. I think people and investors should be warned because idea in itself is beautiful and has merit but if this scam is allowed to mature it could destroy the community's credibility and future such initiatives that are legitimate. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494105.msg5624113#msg5624113Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: biboun on March 10, 2014, 09:18:27 PM with all the posts you've made, there are pages of warning...
what is the problem , you wan't to to save the world ? people are grown up, they do want they want, the way you systematically bash everything about this coin is totally counter productive. ( and proves you have nothing to do else than posting in this forum) Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: ifightformerkel on March 10, 2014, 09:18:36 PM This Coin is not a fake!
Herp is a Kid that hate everything! This is still the most exciting alt to come around in a long while. WE DONT NEED NO DEVS IF THE COIN WORKING FINE, BUT THE DEVS ALSO WORKING HERE EVERYDAY ON THIS COIN. Who thing this coin is a scam, stay out. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 10, 2014, 09:20:08 PM Wow, much red much hate. Please relax. Screaming your lungs out won't make this coin less scammy, it would only make you look idiotic.
Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: biboun on March 10, 2014, 09:23:35 PM Do you bot guys realize that both of you tend to avoid the bit of credibility crypto currencies have.
Kids playing virtual stock exchange with virtual money. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: RoooooR on March 10, 2014, 09:24:18 PM Maza was a shit,
This will be a shit too. But I suggest you to let people get scam and lose their %80 investment. It's funny to watch all crying babies. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 10, 2014, 09:26:22 PM Maza was a shit, This will be a shit too. But I suggest you to let people get scam and lose their %80 investment. It's funny to watch all crying babies. The initiatives of creating sovereign digital currencies are really interesting ones and I don't think we should let be exploited so easily by liars and cheats. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: biboun on March 10, 2014, 09:27:33 PM Guys, I copied the "screenshot" from @Mazacoin's twitter and then copied a real screenshot from the Google Play Store (The Bitcoin Wallet: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet) what you call pixelation is jpeg compression.I pasted them both into Paint (simple, you can do it to). Put them side-by-side and do a zoom (will magnify both images equally). Tell me, why is there a ton of pixelation all over the Mazacoin while the Bitcoin Wallet screenshot looks crisper? Is there a photoshop job happening with @Mazacoin's Android wallet that is causing strange compression issues with the pixels? I seriously want to get your opinions because this looks very shady. I guess we'll know tomorrow but this looks like a setup. https://i.imgur.com/eTGu9xS.png I'm happy to admit I'm wrong but the Android wallet pic looked extremely grainy to me. Look closely. Full size image is here since bitcointalk.org's display size is smaller than what I'm trying to show you: https://i.imgur.com/eTGu9xS.png take the bitcoin pic ans save it in jpeg, let's say quality 3 you'll get the same.. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Labteck on March 10, 2014, 09:29:00 PM Scam,be carefull.
Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: ifightformerkel on March 10, 2014, 09:33:22 PM Interesting news worldwide about the Mazacoin, this is scam for you?
You are pathetic. http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/03/07/lakota-indian-promotes-new-digital-currency-mazacoin/ http://rt.com/usa/native-american-nation-bitcoin-632/ http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/mazacoin-native-american-tribe-adopts-bitcoin-derivative-as-national-currency-9165314.html http://www.ecanadanow.com/business/2014/03/01/native-americans-now-have-bitcoin-clone/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/10668018/Native-Americans-adopt-bitcoin-clone-as-official-currency.html http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2014/03/03/9-questions-surrounding-mazacoin-lakota-cryptocurrency-answered-153750 http://www.complex.com/tech/2014/03/lakota-mazacoin-cryptocurrency http://www.popsci.com.au/technology/native-american-tribe-adopts-its-own-bitcoin-clone http://www.blacklistednews.com/Lakota_nation_adopts_MazaCoin_crypto-currency_as_legal_tender/33348/0/38/38/Y/M.html http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasperhamill/2014/02/27/the-battle-of-little-bitcoin-native-american-tribe-launches-its-own-cryptocurrency/ http://www.lihpao.com/?action-viewnews-itemid-138172 http://digi.163.com/14/0304/19/9MH0K7NB00162OUT.html http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/the-stream/the-stream-officialblog/2014/3/5/native-american-tribeadoptsnewcryptocurrency.html http://gigamir.net/agenda/culture/pub649087 http://rus.ruvr.ru/2014_03_06/Siunomika-menjaet-dvigatel-8790/ http://index.hu/gazdasag/2014/03/03/a_sziu_bitcoin_az_uj_boleny/ http://www.itespresso.es/siete-tribus-indias-lanzan-mazacoin-propia-moneda-virtual-122470.html http://www.mintpressnews.com/native-american-tribe-adopts-bitcoin-official-currency/185745/ http://www.calcalist.co.il/internet/articles/1,7340,L-3626031,00.html http://comments.ua/ht/455982-indeyskoe-plemya-ssha-sozdalo.html http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2014/03/03/9-questions-surrounding-mazacoin-lakota-cryptocurrency-answered-153750 http://mytech.panorama.it/internet/MazaCoin-Bitcoin-nativi-americani http://www.moneynews.ru/News/18562/ http://itexpert.org.ua/rubrikator/item/34319-indejskoe-plemya-v-ssha-sozdalo-sobstvennuyu-virtualnuyu-valyutu-matsa-kojn.html http://www.dailypaul.com/313850/big-news-lakota-nation-chooses-official-cryptocurrency-named-mazacoin-as-alternative-to-frns http://ecopreneurist.com/2014/03/06/oglala-lakota-nation-launches-mazacoin-cryptocurrency-official-currency/ http://us3.campaign-archive1.com/?u=65061a976c929ddabe0abe861&id=8fa1366e7e&e=72db57eb0a http://www.ihavebitcoins.com/featured/mazacoin-ogala-lakotas-national-currency/ https://www.facebook.com/NYCoin?filter=3 Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: RoooooR on March 10, 2014, 09:36:39 PM Interesting news worldwide about the Mazacoin, this is scam for you? You are pathetic. http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/03/07/lakota-indian-promotes-new-digital-currency-mazacoin/ http://rt.com/usa/native-american-nation-bitcoin-632/ http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/mazacoin-native-american-tribe-adopts-bitcoin-derivative-as-national-currency-9165314.html http://www.ecanadanow.com/business/2014/03/01/native-americans-now-have-bitcoin-clone/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/10668018/Native-Americans-adopt-bitcoin-clone-as-official-currency.html http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2014/03/03/9-questions-surrounding-mazacoin-lakota-cryptocurrency-answered-153750 http://www.complex.com/tech/2014/03/lakota-mazacoin-cryptocurrency http://www.popsci.com.au/technology/native-american-tribe-adopts-its-own-bitcoin-clone http://www.blacklistednews.com/Lakota_nation_adopts_MazaCoin_crypto-currency_as_legal_tender/33348/0/38/38/Y/M.html http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasperhamill/2014/02/27/the-battle-of-little-bitcoin-native-american-tribe-launches-its-own-cryptocurrency/ http://www.lihpao.com/?action-viewnews-itemid-138172 http://digi.163.com/14/0304/19/9MH0K7NB00162OUT.html http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/the-stream/the-stream-officialblog/2014/3/5/native-american-tribeadoptsnewcryptocurrency.html http://gigamir.net/agenda/culture/pub649087 http://rus.ruvr.ru/2014_03_06/Siunomika-menjaet-dvigatel-8790/ http://index.hu/gazdasag/2014/03/03/a_sziu_bitcoin_az_uj_boleny/ http://www.itespresso.es/siete-tribus-indias-lanzan-mazacoin-propia-moneda-virtual-122470.html http://www.mintpressnews.com/native-american-tribe-adopts-bitcoin-official-currency/185745/ http://www.calcalist.co.il/internet/articles/1,7340,L-3626031,00.html http://comments.ua/ht/455982-indeyskoe-plemya-ssha-sozdalo.html http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2014/03/03/9-questions-surrounding-mazacoin-lakota-cryptocurrency-answered-153750 http://mytech.panorama.it/internet/MazaCoin-Bitcoin-nativi-americani http://www.moneynews.ru/News/18562/ http://itexpert.org.ua/rubrikator/item/34319-indejskoe-plemya-v-ssha-sozdalo-sobstvennuyu-virtualnuyu-valyutu-matsa-kojn.html http://www.dailypaul.com/313850/big-news-lakota-nation-chooses-official-cryptocurrency-named-mazacoin-as-alternative-to-frns http://ecopreneurist.com/2014/03/06/oglala-lakota-nation-launches-mazacoin-cryptocurrency-official-currency/ http://us3.campaign-archive1.com/?u=65061a976c929ddabe0abe861&id=8fa1366e7e&e=72db57eb0a http://www.ihavebitcoins.com/featured/mazacoin-ogala-lakotas-national-currency/ https://www.facebook.com/NYCoin?filter=3 Unfortunately yes. Bye. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: biboun on March 10, 2014, 09:37:48 PM Interesting news worldwide about the Mazacoin, this is scam for you? You are pathetic. [Suspicious link removed]j.com/moneybeat/2014/03/07/lakota-indian-promotes-new-digital-currency-mazacoin/ http://rt.com/usa/native-american-nation-bitcoin-632/ http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/mazacoin-native-american-tribe-adopts-bitcoin-derivative-as-national-currency-9165314.html http://www.ecanadanow.com/business/2014/03/01/native-americans-now-have-bitcoin-clone/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/10668018/Native-Americans-adopt-bitcoin-clone-as-official-currency.html http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2014/03/03/9-questions-surrounding-mazacoin-lakota-cryptocurrency-answered-153750 http://www.complex.com/tech/2014/03/lakota-mazacoin-cryptocurrency http://www.popsci.com.au/technology/native-american-tribe-adopts-its-own-bitcoin-clone http://www.blacklistednews.com/Lakota_nation_adopts_MazaCoin_crypto-currency_as_legal_tender/33348/0/38/38/Y/M.html http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasperhamill/2014/02/27/the-battle-of-little-bitcoin-native-american-tribe-launches-its-own-cryptocurrency/ http://www.lihpao.com/?action-viewnews-itemid-138172 http://digi.163.com/14/0304/19/9MH0K7NB00162OUT.html http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/the-stream/the-stream-officialblog/2014/3/5/native-american-tribeadoptsnewcryptocurrency.html http://gigamir.net/agenda/culture/pub649087 http://rus.ruvr.ru/2014_03_06/Siunomika-menjaet-dvigatel-8790/ http://index.hu/gazdasag/2014/03/03/a_sziu_bitcoin_az_uj_boleny/ http://www.itespresso.es/siete-tribus-indias-lanzan-mazacoin-propia-moneda-virtual-122470.html http://www.mintpressnews.com/native-american-tribe-adopts-bitcoin-official-currency/185745/ http://www.calcalist.co.il/internet/articles/1,7340,L-3626031,00.html http://comments.ua/ht/455982-indeyskoe-plemya-ssha-sozdalo.html http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2014/03/03/9-questions-surrounding-mazacoin-lakota-cryptocurrency-answered-153750 http://mytech.panorama.it/internet/MazaCoin-Bitcoin-nativi-americani http://www.moneynews.ru/News/18562/ http://itexpert.org.ua/rubrikator/item/34319-indejskoe-plemya-v-ssha-sozdalo-sobstvennuyu-virtualnuyu-valyutu-matsa-kojn.html http://www.dailypaul.com/313850/big-news-lakota-nation-chooses-official-cryptocurrency-named-mazacoin-as-alternative-to-frns http://ecopreneurist.com/2014/03/06/oglala-lakota-nation-launches-mazacoin-cryptocurrency-official-currency/ http://us3.campaign-archive1.com/?u=65061a976c929ddabe0abe861&id=8fa1366e7e&e=72db57eb0a http://www.ihavebitcoins.com/featured/mazacoin-ogala-lakotas-national-currency/ https://www.facebook.com/NYCoin?filter=3 I would'nt take this for a counter argument either , when you see how fast today press is able to relay wrong information... Only official statements on official websites ,everything else is just guys trying to fill up their news feed relaying unverified news. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 10, 2014, 09:39:50 PM Let's take the RT article from your spammy bunch
Quote A Bitcoin spinoff known as Mazacoin has been adopted by a confederation of seven Native American tribes as their national currency. The Oglala Lakota Nation has expressed hope that it will draw the tribes out of poverty. “I think crypto-currencies could be the new buffalo,” head of the Lakota Nation, Payu Harris, told Forbes. “Once, it was everything for our survival. We used it for food, for clothes, for everything. It was our economy. I think MazaCoin could serve the same purpose.” Members of the tribe included Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse – famous for their role in the Battle of Little Bighorn, during which they were key in securing a victory over General George Armstrong Custer. “We have to be forward-thinking,” Harris clarified. The coin styles itself on its website as creating an “economic foundation upon which the Traditional Lakota Nation can build lasting wealth and prosperity for their people.” “MazaCoin will take its place in the world of Crypto-Currency as a solid Alt Coin backed by the unique legacy of an ancient culture and nation,” it adds. Mazzacoin is a branch or “fork” of a Bitcoin derivative called ‘ZetaCoin’. However, it remains one of an ever-growing market of alt-coins fighting to establish themselves. “Just like debit cards, it will take a while for people to get it,” Harris astated. “But once people understood the new cards, they began to accept them. The same will happen with MazaCoin.” He added that an educational campaign has already been launched demonstrate to the Lakota how to mine the currency. In preparation, the nation has mined some 25 million MazaCois to be utilized as a national reserve of sorts. A further 25 million are on standby for a Tribal Trust – a collective which will issue grants to tribe members or support local businesses. A handful have already agreed to start using the coin. The FBI has already allegedly contacted Harris to discuss the proposals to immerse themselves in the crypto-currency, apparently having reminded him that cryto-currencies are not considered legal tender in the US, currently. Harris has dismissed the warnings. The red parts I've highlighted above are either lies told by Payu to the media, inaccuracies and red flags. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: ifightformerkel on March 10, 2014, 09:42:02 PM Let's take the RT article from your spammy bunch Quote A Bitcoin spinoff known as Mazacoin has been adopted by a confederation of seven Native American tribes as their national currency. The Oglala Lakota Nation has expressed hope that it will draw the tribes out of poverty. “I think crypto-currencies could be the new buffalo,” head of the Lakota Nation, Payu Harris, told Forbes. “Once, it was everything for our survival. We used it for food, for clothes, for everything. It was our economy. I think MazaCoin could serve the same purpose.” Members of the tribe included Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse – famous for their role in the Battle of Little Bighorn, during which they were key in securing a victory over General George Armstrong Custer. “We have to be forward-thinking,” Harris clarified. The coin styles itself on its website as creating an “economic foundation upon which the Traditional Lakota Nation can build lasting wealth and prosperity for their people.” “MazaCoin will take its place in the world of Crypto-Currency as a solid Alt Coin backed by the unique legacy of an ancient culture and nation,” it adds. Mazzacoin is a branch or “fork” of a Bitcoin derivative called ‘ZetaCoin’. However, it remains one of an ever-growing market of alt-coins fighting to establish themselves. “Just like debit cards, it will take a while for people to get it,” Harris astated. “But once people understood the new cards, they began to accept them. The same will happen with MazaCoin.” He added that an educational campaign has already been launched demonstrate to the Lakota how to mine the currency. In preparation, the nation has mined some 25 million MazaCois to be utilized as a national reserve of sorts. A further 25 million are on standby for a Tribal Trust – a collective which will issue grants to tribe members or support local businesses. A handful have already agreed to start using the coin. The FBI has already allegedly contacted Harris to discuss the proposals to immerse themselves in the crypto-currency, apparently having reminded him that cryto-currencies are not considered legal tender in the US, currently. Harris has dismissed the warnings. The red parts I've highlighted above are either lies told by Payu to the media, inaccuracies and red flags. Read this my hate friend "A Native American Nation is Turning to a Bitcoin-like Cryptocurrency to Assert its Sovereignty" http://www.complex.com/tech/2014/03/lakota-mazacoin-cryptocurrency Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 10, 2014, 09:44:34 PM Let's take the Wall Street Journal article. After publication they realized they've been mislead by Payu and made corrections to the article:
Quote CORRECTION: An earlier version of this post said mazacoin had been adopted as the Lakota currency. It has not been officially endorsed by the council. at the bottom of the articlehttp://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/03/07/lakota-indian-promotes-new-digital-currency-mazacoin/ Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: sussex on March 10, 2014, 09:46:11 PM Let's take the RT article from your spammy bunch Quote A Bitcoin spinoff known as Mazacoin has been adopted by a confederation of seven Native American tribes as their national currency. The Oglala Lakota Nation has expressed hope that it will draw the tribes out of poverty. “I think crypto-currencies could be the new buffalo,” head of the Lakota Nation, Payu Harris, told Forbes. “Once, it was everything for our survival. We used it for food, for clothes, for everything. It was our economy. I think MazaCoin could serve the same purpose.” Members of the tribe included Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse – famous for their role in the Battle of Little Bighorn, during which they were key in securing a victory over General George Armstrong Custer. “We have to be forward-thinking,” Harris clarified. The coin styles itself on its website as creating an “economic foundation upon which the Traditional Lakota Nation can build lasting wealth and prosperity for their people.” “MazaCoin will take its place in the world of Crypto-Currency as a solid Alt Coin backed by the unique legacy of an ancient culture and nation,” it adds. Mazzacoin is a branch or “fork” of a Bitcoin derivative called ‘ZetaCoin’. However, it remains one of an ever-growing market of alt-coins fighting to establish themselves. “Just like debit cards, it will take a while for people to get it,” Harris astated. “But once people understood the new cards, they began to accept them. The same will happen with MazaCoin.” He added that an educational campaign has already been launched demonstrate to the Lakota how to mine the currency. In preparation, the nation has mined some 25 million MazaCois to be utilized as a national reserve of sorts. A further 25 million are on standby for a Tribal Trust – a collective which will issue grants to tribe members or support local businesses. A handful have already agreed to start using the coin. The FBI has already allegedly contacted Harris to discuss the proposals to immerse themselves in the crypto-currency, apparently having reminded him that cryto-currencies are not considered legal tender in the US, currently. Harris has dismissed the warnings. The red parts I've highlighted above are either lies told by Payu to the media, inaccuracies and red flags. Read this my hate friend "A Native American Nation is Turning to a Bitcoin-like Cryptocurrency to Assert its Sovereignty" http://www.complex.com/tech/2014/03/lakota-mazacoin-cryptocurrency Jesus, stop pushing this bullshit. This is a re-hash of an old Verge article, as I have told you before and as it says in the first sentence. You sound desperate now. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: biboun on March 10, 2014, 09:50:10 PM One thing is sure:
Throw an erroneous information about a subject that can create a buzz, you'll have to wait for weeks until news sites stop relaying wrong information. you make money with trading virtual money, they make money selling virtual news. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: TheMightyX on March 10, 2014, 10:06:07 PM I find it funny people believe that because something was reposted by a ton of news sites it must be true.
Did he not notice every article is just a rehash of the same information and quotes? It's all second-hand information. http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/02/eb/0f/02eb0f7422d2b8e01aee4f5692abf76a.jpg It's obvious there is something not right going on. The idea of a large group of people just adopting cryptocurrency in their daily lives out of the blue is unbelievable. The logistics alone would be nearly impossible for these people. Have you seen really old people try to use email? Yet you are going to have every child to senior citizen of this tribe get smart phones so that they can pay for things with cryptocurrency? The whole story is ridiculous. Saying the OP should shut up is pretty fucking lame. He's probably lost a lot of money due to this fraud. If he can warn others hes doing a good deed. Instead of burying your heads in the sand you should be using what little brain power you people have and asking questions and thinking critically. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 10, 2014, 10:06:45 PM I've been asked about the content of a certain leaked email between "Pirate" the brain behind Mazacoin and the @bitcoinsachs blogger
Here it is: https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442489676159385602 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442486855703855104 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442488295134466048 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442489098721189888 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442489227813462016 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442489368129716224 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442490025402310656 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442490167182368770 Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: KingSchultz on March 10, 2014, 11:44:02 PM Makes sense that if the dev is legit, he might want to crash the price for now. Then as adoption slowly picks up, the price would naturally rise rather than staying at it's speculative price and locking tribe members out from mining an appreciable portion of their own namesake coin because of the ridiculous network hashrate. I remember grants for individual tribe members to buy ASIC miners was a part of the plan from the start.
Don't know what's truth anymore with this coin. Don't really care, barely threw any money at it. I'll see where it's at in a few months. :) Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: greatwolf on March 11, 2014, 12:54:38 AM Do we know anonpirate's mazacoin address? Maybe there's a way to see how much he mined to get an idea and then check whether he dumped those coins are not?
Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 11, 2014, 01:35:56 AM Do we know anonpirate's mazacoin address? Maybe there's a way to see how much he mined to get an idea and then check whether he dumped those coins are not? Good question. I also wonder what will happen with the pre-mine. If this pirate has control over it, since he also had control over the mining gear which was used to mine it and now he kinda` jumped ship, moving on to another "national coin" MapleCoin,. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Joshuar on March 11, 2014, 01:41:13 AM Interesting news worldwide about the Mazacoin, this is scam for you? You are pathetic. [Suspicious link removed]j.com/moneybeat/2014/03/07/lakota-indian-promotes-new-digital-currency-mazacoin/ http://rt.com/usa/native-american-nation-bitcoin-632/ http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/mazacoin-native-american-tribe-adopts-bitcoin-derivative-as-national-currency-9165314.html http://www.ecanadanow.com/business/2014/03/01/native-americans-now-have-bitcoin-clone/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/10668018/Native-Americans-adopt-bitcoin-clone-as-official-currency.html http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2014/03/03/9-questions-surrounding-mazacoin-lakota-cryptocurrency-answered-153750 http://www.complex.com/tech/2014/03/lakota-mazacoin-cryptocurrency http://www.popsci.com.au/technology/native-american-tribe-adopts-its-own-bitcoin-clone http://www.blacklistednews.com/Lakota_nation_adopts_MazaCoin_crypto-currency_as_legal_tender/33348/0/38/38/Y/M.html http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasperhamill/2014/02/27/the-battle-of-little-bitcoin-native-american-tribe-launches-its-own-cryptocurrency/ http://www.lihpao.com/?action-viewnews-itemid-138172 http://digi.163.com/14/0304/19/9MH0K7NB00162OUT.html http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/the-stream/the-stream-officialblog/2014/3/5/native-american-tribeadoptsnewcryptocurrency.html http://gigamir.net/agenda/culture/pub649087 http://rus.ruvr.ru/2014_03_06/Siunomika-menjaet-dvigatel-8790/ http://index.hu/gazdasag/2014/03/03/a_sziu_bitcoin_az_uj_boleny/ http://www.itespresso.es/siete-tribus-indias-lanzan-mazacoin-propia-moneda-virtual-122470.html http://www.mintpressnews.com/native-american-tribe-adopts-bitcoin-official-currency/185745/ http://www.calcalist.co.il/internet/articles/1,7340,L-3626031,00.html http://comments.ua/ht/455982-indeyskoe-plemya-ssha-sozdalo.html http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2014/03/03/9-questions-surrounding-mazacoin-lakota-cryptocurrency-answered-153750 http://mytech.panorama.it/internet/MazaCoin-Bitcoin-nativi-americani http://www.moneynews.ru/News/18562/ http://itexpert.org.ua/rubrikator/item/34319-indejskoe-plemya-v-ssha-sozdalo-sobstvennuyu-virtualnuyu-valyutu-matsa-kojn.html http://www.dailypaul.com/313850/big-news-lakota-nation-chooses-official-cryptocurrency-named-mazacoin-as-alternative-to-frns http://ecopreneurist.com/2014/03/06/oglala-lakota-nation-launches-mazacoin-cryptocurrency-official-currency/ http://us3.campaign-archive1.com/?u=65061a976c929ddabe0abe861&id=8fa1366e7e&e=72db57eb0a http://www.ihavebitcoins.com/featured/mazacoin-ogala-lakotas-national-currency/ https://www.facebook.com/NYCoin?filter=3 Thats a lot.of links my friend, but the background behind the mazacoin dev is fishy regardless.. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 11, 2014, 02:14:48 AM These guys are too much
https://twitter.com/MapleCoin2014/status/443096992919851009 Quote Because of the deep penetration of Crypto-Currency in Canada, the MapleCoin Development Team has chosen to have absolutely NO pre-mine and a "klondike style" public launch. Because MapleCoin is a scrypt based mining coin, this means the public launch can be fair and democratic allowing everyone to mine MapleCoin even on their home PCs at first. All CPU/GPU miners will be welcome. Pools and other user tools will be made available at launch. So much for national currency. I find it disturbing how few people can see that the 5% Mazacoin pre-mine is peanuts, when it comes to distributing it to the Lakotas. Actually less than 5% was going to actually be distributed. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 11, 2014, 03:47:57 AM Ok so Mazacoin devs just concluded a Q&A on IRC.
My take from the chat: Mazacoin will never be adopted as any sovereign currency of any kind and thus coin price premium this Mazacoin has is totally undeserved. The tribes will never adopt Mazacoin because they're getting plenty of government handouts and the 5% premine is way to small to incentivize them. If some tribe were to get on-board, they would just start fresh with their own coin. On top of that there's also gov pressure which won't allow it even if aforementioned conditions are met. From this IRC chat it became very clear the two devs Boxxa and AnonPirate are at odds with each other so there is shitty development cohesion there, or lack thereof. Boxxa didn't agree with Pirate about launching Maple coin. He thought timing sucked. Boxxa is the only dev working on Mazacoin and he's working part time. I think he lied when he said Pirate was still involved. His only incentive, or so he says, are the Mazacoins he bought while they were 100. We don't know why pirate decided to start Maplecoin, Boxxa dodged that question. Some raised the question about Pirate starting MapleCoin as "pump and dump" as Boxxa called it and if it's wise to have someone like that in the team. Boxxa dodged the question. Regarding Payu and Pirate relation, Boxxa didn't know exactly who contacted who to start Mazacoin. It would seem he's leaning towards Pirate being the head of it just as the leaked email mentioned. Payu does not have a direct connection to Boxxa, they don't even speak on the phone and he can't get in touch with Payu easily. To me this sounds retarded on a project of this scale. When asked about the sovereign national status of the currency, why is it advertised as such, Boxxa dodged the question, basically denying it was presented as such, though Payu clearly did so on camera. All in all - a lot of hype and not much to show for except empty promises and a lot of BS. Several times during the chat Boxxa tried to divert attention to "ongoing pump" since the Q&A started, but there was no significant price jump. He was obviously very concerned about the price and his own stake in the project, even though Mazacoin is all about long term steady growth, which is a pretty big disconnect. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: battbot on March 11, 2014, 04:03:24 AM mzc about to explode on cryptsy!!!
Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 11, 2014, 04:09:32 AM mzc about to explode on cryptsy!!! Some fools bought into Boxxa's crappy dodgy answers but it won't last long. Some are buying back after selling for a loss only to sell for a loss again very soon. There's another manipulative organized pump going on with a 36btc order that comes and goes. Total artificial action. Some pumper team organized this BS event with Boxxa most likely. Chances for this to be random are pretty slim. He probably gave someone heads up. Trading on insider info should mean some kinda` punishment but I guess it's all fair game for Mazacoin. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: insanid on March 11, 2014, 04:15:27 AM I've been asked about the content of a certain leaked email between "Pirate" the brain behind Mazacoin and the @bitcoinsachs blogger Here it is: https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442489676159385602 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442486855703855104 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442488295134466048 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442489098721189888 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442489227813462016 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442489368129716224 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442490025402310656 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442490167182368770 Except, @bitcoinsachs hasn't actually released anything other than a couple quotes from this supposed "leaked e-mail", and the MazaCoin dev team just released their Android Wallet today. Tell you what, I just received a confidential e-mail from the MazaCoin dev team, and although I won't release the entire details of the e-mail, I will release a few quotes. "We are actively working on MazaCoin, and will continue future development" "Boxxa and AnonymousPirate are working together without any issues" "Because someone posts on Twitter claiming they received a confidential e-mail from a developer, it must be true because I have an agenda against MazaCoin" See how ridiculous this is? Actually, you probably won't, so what's the use anyways? Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 11, 2014, 04:20:22 AM I've been asked about the content of a certain leaked email between "Pirate" the brain behind Mazacoin and the @bitcoinsachs blogger Here it is: https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442489676159385602 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442486855703855104 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442488295134466048 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442489098721189888 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442489227813462016 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442489368129716224 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442490025402310656 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442490167182368770 Except, @bitcoinsachs hasn't actually released anything other than a couple quotes from this supposed "leaked e-mail", and the MazaCoin dev team just released their Android Wallet today. Tell you what, I just received a confidential e-mail from the MazaCoin dev team, and although I won't release the entire details of the e-mail, I will release a few quotes. "We are actively working on MazaCoin, and will continue future development" "Boxxa and AnonymousPirate are working together without any issues" "Because someone posts on Twitter claiming they received a confidential e-mail from a developer, it must be true because I have an agenda against MazaCoin" See how ridiculous this is? Actually, you probably won't, so what's the use anyways? Doesn't this blogger have a certain level of credibility? I think he does and so do many others. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: insanid on March 11, 2014, 04:29:09 AM I've been asked about the content of a certain leaked email between "Pirate" the brain behind Mazacoin and the @bitcoinsachs blogger Here it is: https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442489676159385602 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442486855703855104 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442488295134466048 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442489098721189888 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442489227813462016 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442489368129716224 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442490025402310656 https://twitter.com/BitcoinSachs/status/442490167182368770 Except, @bitcoinsachs hasn't actually released anything other than a couple quotes from this supposed "leaked e-mail", and the MazaCoin dev team just released their Android Wallet today. Tell you what, I just received a confidential e-mail from the MazaCoin dev team, and although I won't release the entire details of the e-mail, I will release a few quotes. "We are actively working on MazaCoin, and will continue future development" "Boxxa and AnonymousPirate are working together without any issues" "Because someone posts on Twitter claiming they received a confidential e-mail from a developer, it must be true because I have an agenda against MazaCoin" See how ridiculous this is? Actually, you probably won't, so what's the use anyways? Doesn't this blogger have a certain level of credibility? I think he does and so do many others. I know some of his long-time followers, and they are questioning the validity of this "leaked e-mail" specifically because @bitcoinsachs refuses to release it in entirety. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: MisO69 on March 11, 2014, 04:41:28 AM At least we got some publicity out of it for the alt coin world. Lets hope it brings more people into this mess.
Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Gleason on March 11, 2014, 04:46:56 AM LOL. I believe Herp after reading his info.
How can you believe "Payu" and that Mazacoin team when they now are already coming out with "MapleLeaf" coin, with their same shitty website design that looks like a 12 year old made it in 10 minutes, AND they are already claiming its the "Currency of Canada". LAUGHABLE They lied to everyone, the coin jumped 10x ++++++ times in value, and they made a fuck ton of money on lies that were quickly spread by media that didn't know any better. AUR coin clone to the max, except it was all lies ( unlike AUR coin. ) -Brian Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Bit_Happy on March 11, 2014, 04:51:18 AM LOL. I believe Herp after reading his info. How can you believe "Payu" and that Mazacoin team when they now are already coming out with "MapleLeaf" coin, with their same shitty website design that looks like a 12 year old made it in 10 minutes, AND they are already claiming its the "Currency of Canada". LAUGHABLE They lied to everyone, the coin jumped 10x ++++++ times in value, and they made a fuck ton of money on lies that were quickly spread by media that didn't know any better. AUR coin clone to the max, except it was all lies ( unlike AUR coin. ) -Brian But what about the poor Natives who need food, clothes and hope? I guess Mazacoin was fun for a few days... Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: insanid on March 11, 2014, 04:52:35 AM LOL. I believe Herp after reading his info. How can you believe "Payu" and that Mazacoin team when they now are already coming out with "MapleLeaf" coin, with their same shitty website design that looks like a 12 year old made it in 10 minutes, AND they are already claiming its the "Currency of Canada". LAUGHABLE They lied to everyone, the coin jumped 10x ++++++ times in value, and they made a fuck ton of money on lies that were quickly spread by media that didn't know any better. AUR coin clone to the max, except it was all lies ( unlike AUR coin. ) -Brian It's one person from the dev team that decided to work on another coin at the same time. The MazaCoin team just released their Android Wallet this morning. Payu Harris and Boxxa are not affiliated with MapleLeaf coin in any way. The premined coins have not been spent, and they didn't dump and cash out. You can verify this yourself on the mazacoin blockchain explorer. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: poppys on March 11, 2014, 04:53:50 AM Just found out that Herp is a subcontractor working for the US GOV.
Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: poornamelessme on March 11, 2014, 04:56:36 AM Just found out that Herp is a subcontractor working for the US GOV. Either that, or he forgot to take his medications for the past several days. No normal person would spend this much time studying a coin they haven't invested in.... and posting nonstop about it on several threads. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: neuroMode on March 11, 2014, 05:27:33 AM Ok so Mazacoin devs just concluded a Q&A on IRC. My take from the chat: Mazacoin will never be adopted as any sovereign currency of any kind and thus coin price premium this Mazacoin has is totally undeserved. The tribes will never adopt Mazacoin because they're getting plenty of government handouts and the 5% premine is way to small to incentivize them. If some tribe were to get on-board, they would just start fresh with their own coin. On top of that there's also gov pressure which won't allow it even if aforementioned conditions are met. From this IRC chat it became very clear the two devs Boxxa and AnonPirate are at odds with each other so there is shitty development cohesion there, or lack thereof. Boxxa didn't agree with Pirate about launching Maple coin. He thought timing sucked. Boxxa is the only dev working on Mazacoin and he's working part time. I think he lied when he said Pirate was still involved. His only incentive, or so he says, are the Mazacoins he bought while they were 100. We don't know why pirate decided to start Maplecoin, Boxxa dodged that question. Some raised the question about Pirate starting MapleCoin as "pump and dump" as Boxxa called it and if it's wise to have someone like that in the team. Boxxa dodged the question. Regarding Payu and Pirate relation, Boxxa didn't know exactly who contacted who to start Mazacoin. It would seem he's leaning towards Pirate being the head of it just as the leaked email mentioned. Payu does not have a direct connection to Boxxa, they don't even speak on the phone and he can't get in touch with Payu easily. To me this sounds retarded on a project of this scale. When asked about the sovereign national status of the currency, why is it advertised as such, Boxxa dodged the question, basically denying it was presented as such, though Payu clearly did so on camera. All in all - a lot of hype and not much to show for except empty promises and a lot of BS. Several times during the chat Boxxa tried to divert attention to "ongoing pump" since the Q&A started, but there was no significant price jump. He was obviously very concerned about the price and his own stake in the project, even though Mazacoin is all about long term steady growth, which is a pretty big disconnect. Dodging questions? Sounds like @boxxa! Interested only in the price? Sounds like @boxxa! Disconnect between developers and Payu?? Sounds like @boxxa!! Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: MazaWarrior on March 11, 2014, 06:36:28 AM Just found out that Herp is a subcontractor working for the US GOV. source? Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: SkyValeey on March 11, 2014, 11:01:56 AM Just found out that Herp is a subcontractor working for the US GOV. Either that, or he forgot to take his medications for the past several days. No normal person would spend this much time studying a coin they haven't invested in.... and posting nonstop about it on several threads. +1 That's right. Or he's just fud-trader - little mzc whale. Posting only bad words, spread FUD, so price is falling more and he's buying more. Simple. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 11, 2014, 12:08:08 PM It's amazing for how long people can be in denial. Did you guys hear about the "optimism bias"? It's a bias everyone has when it comes to weighing in on things objectively. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimism_bias
You've been lied to, Payu lied to the media, you've been taken for a ride. The clever among you will use this opportunity to get out while they still can and recover at least a part of their investment. You guys should also find repulsive the personal attacks directed at me, yes cheap ad hominem attacks because when you can't attack the message you can try and attack, discredit the messenger. When people resort to this stupid style of defending themselves and their beliefs, they've already lost the argument. PERIOD. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem Do you think all the professional con-men in history weren't persuasive? Sociopaths are highly persuasive, the likes of which you'll never see. Famous such known con artist manage to sell the Eiffel tower (twice) and needless to say he wasn't the owner. http://www.uselessinformation.org/lustig/ Why is the brain behind the Mazacoin project, AnonPirate insisting on staying anonymous? And please don't give me the Satoshi was anonymous BS because Satoshi started something that changed the world and had serious motives to do so, as being uncovered at early point could have messed with his invention. Litecoin creator isn't anonymous, Feathercoin creator isn't anonymous, Mastercoin creators are not anonymous, Maxcoin creators are not anonymous and so on. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 11, 2014, 12:30:27 PM Payu came out with undeniable proof Mazacoin is legit. :D ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzGKdfUcyiY I think this pretty much addressed all concerns. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Coinsy on March 11, 2014, 12:35:14 PM This is supposed to be some statement "in partner" with the sheriff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izjmxRfZlPU He literally looks like he ran up to the sheriff with a camera and said some quick lines, while the sheriff is like "....what the fuck?" :D Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 11, 2014, 12:45:29 PM This is supposed to be some statement "in partner" with the sheriff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izjmxRfZlPU He literally looks like he ran up to the sheriff with a camera and said some quick lines, while the sheriff is like "....what the fuck?" :D That's what my gut feeling was telling me first time I saw that video. Something didn't feel right the way the rushed/ambushed the guy. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiZbwc2CUAAwAws.png:large https://twitter.com/relateablefuuu/status/443142501268869120 Seen this tweeted the other day. Made me think of Mazacoin and the foolish optimism some people have. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: eightspaces on March 11, 2014, 12:49:56 PM LOL. I believe Herp after reading his info. How can you believe "Payu" and that Mazacoin team when they now are already coming out with "MapleLeaf" coin, with their same shitty website design that looks like a 12 year old made it in 10 minutes, AND they are already claiming its the "Currency of Canada". LAUGHABLE They lied to everyone, the coin jumped 10x ++++++ times in value, and they made a fuck ton of money on lies that were quickly spread by media that didn't know any better. AUR coin clone to the max, except it was all lies ( unlike AUR coin. ) -Brian This Payu guy is pathetic Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: sussex on March 11, 2014, 12:56:04 PM This is supposed to be some statement "in partner" with the sheriff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izjmxRfZlPU He literally looks like he ran up to the sheriff with a camera and said some quick lines, while the sheriff is like "....what the fuck?" :D The sheriff didn't say a word, complete ambush. total scam. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: empowering on March 11, 2014, 01:03:16 PM :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D:D :D :
Have fun kids Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 11, 2014, 01:06:54 PM @empowering
I see you're contributing in a mature way to this dialogue in your support of Mazacoin. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 11, 2014, 01:18:18 PM Just noticed his youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzGKdfUcyiY&feature=youtu.be also has this text attached:
Quote Published on Mar 10, 2014 Ok this is my response to the Warrior water challenge from James Roundstone....Sat in there for around 5 minutes...can anyone top that ? DISCLAIMER: anyone attempting this challenge...bring a warm dry towel and warm clothes...Stay safe while trying this people... Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: MysticalPotato on March 11, 2014, 02:08:18 PM I struggle to comprehend why some continue to defend the legitimacy of Maza. The Lakota 'nation' is not sovereign and has absolutely no legal authority to introduce any form of alternative currency.
But this is besides the point, because members of the tribal council have indicated since day one that they have not endorsed the coin. More than that, even the developer himself acknowledged as much in his own forum. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: bitranger on March 11, 2014, 03:19:13 PM Lakota nation launches MazaCoin cryptocurrency RT America believes Payu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9G9Cmv8VJA&feature=youtube_gdata&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 11, 2014, 04:18:58 PM Lakota nation launches MazaCoin cryptocurrency RT America believes Payu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9G9Cmv8VJA&feature=youtube_gdata&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter LOL. These are same old lies Payu told, repeated by many media outlets. The Wall Street Journal caught up with the lies after the Indians article and made big fat correction to whole main point of the article. Russia Today gave this some attention because it plays into their narrative to bash the US$. It will be embarrassing, however, to see all these reporters eating humble pie when they find out the truth. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: battbot on March 11, 2014, 04:21:00 PM obvious is obvious.
herp is either: 1) paid to fud 2) manipulating to buy low 3) no lifer obvious is obvious. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 11, 2014, 04:26:00 PM @battbot
Guess you have nothing to add except personal attacks. Mazacoin fanboys lost the argument. Now bend over and exit the stage. Show is over. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: bitranger on March 11, 2014, 04:26:26 PM obvious is obvious. herp is either: 1) paid to fud 2) manipulating to buy low 3) no lifer obvious is obvious. or 4. He really could be as stupid as he sounds? With RT and CNN on board now it seems herpy is running of of spit to slobber Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 11, 2014, 04:28:10 PM obvious is obvious. herp is either: 1) paid to fud 2) manipulating to buy low 3) no lifer obvious is obvious. or 4. He really could be as stupid as he sounds? Said bagholder with "Mazacoin can be the new buffalo" in his signature. I'm not the enemy guys. Payu and the rest of the fraudsters are. Get it? They defrauded you. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: cryptonikus on March 11, 2014, 04:29:26 PM terrible thread :'( I hope MAZA is real, would be good for all of us.
Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 11, 2014, 04:30:40 PM terrible thread :'( I hope MAZA is real, would be good for all of us. You know what they say: "Hope is not an investment strategy". Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: empowering on March 11, 2014, 06:05:02 PM Nope an investment strategy is spending all day making comments about a coin you are not interested in, do not own, do not intend to own and do not like.
That is an investment strategy that makes sense... how to invest your time in something you do not care about - seems legit :D :D Does that make any sense to any rational human being? hmmm no! 'fraid it does not make ANY sense, not a single micron of it. You see herp, an unintended consequence of your actions.. are that in fact you have convinced more people of the total opposite of that which you set out to do. "Methinks the lady doth protest to much" I seem to remember the saying to be. Anyways- have fun : ) edit- if someone is paying you for this- you should get the sack and go re take psyc Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: battbot on March 11, 2014, 06:06:27 PM Nope an investment strategy is spending all day making comments about a coin you are not interested in, do not own, do not intend to own and do not like. That is an investment strategy that makes sense... how to invest your time in something you do not care about - seems legit :D :D Does that make any sense to any rational human being? hmmm no! 'fraid it does not make ANY sense, not a single micron of it. You see herp, an unintended consequence of your actions.. are that in fact you have convinced more people of the total opposite of that which you set out to do. "Methinks the lady doth protest to much" I seem to remember the saying to be. Anyways- have fun : ) +1000000 Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: jelin1984 on March 11, 2014, 06:08:22 PM mazacoin is not scam
Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 11, 2014, 06:13:37 PM mazacoin is not scam The hot selling point for Mazacoin was "official sovereign national Lakota currency" which is false and big fat lie, than not even the fanboys deny. It never was Lakota's currency and never will be so... In the absence of that what's left? A guy who's not even member of the Lakota and some part time coder in cahoots with a shady AnonPirate guy running the show, who you've guessed it is anonymous, who dumped this project moving on to Maplecoin, where he can rip off same sheeple again on an instamine job. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Wingel on March 11, 2014, 06:14:33 PM well have few thousand maza, bought when price was up (right after joined mintpal) and, well i have no trust for this coin, but lost all value allready, we can always hope it to rise but... :)
Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 11, 2014, 06:57:07 PM well have few thousand maza, bought when price was up (right after joined mintpal) and, well i have no trust for this coin, but lost all value allready, we can always hope it to rise but... :) Quote AlertCo.in @AlertCoin The most #profitable #SHA256 coin to mine is currently #Mazacoin at 0.0000202 on @cryptsy take a look here coinwarz.com You know what this means for the price right? On top of all the shadiness we also have huge amount of miners dumping like crazy. You can always switch to a sound coin with a future. Mastercoin is interesting choice as they're launching their first functional distributed exchange for everyday users March 15th. http://www.mastercountdown.info/ Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: poornamelessme on March 11, 2014, 07:56:42 PM Nope an investment strategy is spending all day making comments about a coin you are not interested in, do not own, do not intend to own and do not like. That is an investment strategy that makes sense... how to invest your time in something you do not care about - seems legit :D :D Does that make any sense to any rational human being? hmmm no! 'fraid it does not make ANY sense, not a single micron of it. You see herp, an unintended consequence of your actions.. are that in fact you have convinced more people of the total opposite of that which you set out to do. "Methinks the lady doth protest to much" I seem to remember the saying to be. Anyways- have fun : ) edit- if someone is paying you for this- you should get the sack and go re take psyc Agree entirely. It is pretty obvious that no rational person would behave like Herp has been. It's not just the fact he spent all day posting comments -- he's been doing it for several days -- got kicked off one thread for posting fud (and supposedly racist comments), started his own, and kept it up, non-stop. There are some valid concerns, but they get drowned out by the more outlandish statements made. A similar poster went so far as to make up a conspiracy theory over artifacts in a jpg screenshot for the android wallet, which of course was debunked a few minutes later when the actual android wallets were released. So advice for Herp -- if being paid for this, perhaps rethink your strategy. Anyone reading your comments will dismiss then as a whole, because you are going way overboard. If not being paid, or not trying to lower the price to buy in, perhaps seek psychological help. Nobody who isn't invested in this coin would spend this much time on it, and no sane person would post like you have. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: testadimerlo on March 11, 2014, 08:03:13 PM Oh my god
Herp are you here again looking for kill mazacoin? You are persevering and persevering and persevering from days and days speaking about the same thing! It's your mission but you are not credible. Sorry. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 11, 2014, 08:36:46 PM Funny how all those launching personal attacks against me not against what I say were all created in 2014 Feb, Jan or March.
Another thing that speaks volumes here, is that the devs are a bunch of sad cowards that don't have the stomach to post under their own username. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: degel_x on March 11, 2014, 08:39:18 PM jajaja Herp(es)
Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 11, 2014, 08:41:44 PM jajaja Herp(es) You were saying troll shill? Quote Date Registered: February 20, 2014, 06:29:59 PM Don't you get tired to log in with dozens of accounts?Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 11, 2014, 08:46:12 PM Just got an interesting PM from someone.
Quote I think it's all an elaborate pump & dump Most account for the coin on this forum are shills/ghosts of the person behind it Payu is a pansy if not worse it is sad Lakota is being dragged into the dirt I suspect "they" are waiting for the right moment to drop the tribal 50 mil coins + 10-20 mil of their own Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: poornamelessme on March 11, 2014, 08:50:32 PM Just got an interesting PM from someone. Quote I think it's all an elaborate pump & dump Most account for the coin on this forum are shills/ghosts of the person behind it Payu is a pansy if not worse it is sad Lakota is being dragged into the dirt I suspect "they" are waiting for the right moment to drop the tribal 50 mil coins + 10-20 mil of their own If that isn't the definition of fud, I don't know what is. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 11, 2014, 10:26:21 PM Price action Mazacoin is now experiencing is called a bull trap http://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bulltrap.asp
Quote Definition of 'Bull Trap' A false signal indicating that a declining trend in a stock or index has reversed and is heading upwards when, in fact, the security will continue to decline. Investopedia explains 'Bull Trap' A bull trap often causes some investors to buy the stock, but because the stock continues to decline after the initial signal, those who bought in are "trapped" in a bad investment. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Etanllah on March 11, 2014, 10:48:36 PM I'm so jealous...I wish I had Herp's parents. :-[ Not having to worry about money and just flame in a forum all day would be the life.
Edit: "Shill Acct!" Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 11, 2014, 10:54:05 PM I'm so jealous...I wish I had Herp's parents. :-[ Not having to worry about money and just flame in a forum all day would be the life. Edit: "Shill Acct!" Date Registered: March 05, 2014, 03:27:30 PM You Mazacoin people are embarrassing yourselves with all these troll accounts you make. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: flobdeth on March 11, 2014, 10:55:13 PM Interesting news worldwide about the Mazacoin, this is scam for you? You really need to learn how to read, most of the news has been promoted by no one except the scam artist creator. Everything I've read coming from actual "tribal" leaders is they know nothing about this P&D garbage. But meh, your money. Crypto is so full of "dumb money" it's hilariously easy to take from you all Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 12, 2014, 03:31:19 AM Just got some interesting PMs with fresh information
Quote Hey man, I admire they way you are trying to bring light to the MazaCoin scam. I'm with you. Don't know how much of this you have seen already -- couldn't make it through the 100's of pages of threads. One of Payu's previous endeavors: http://www.gofundme.com/4uridc The link for the BTC Oyate Initiative (which holds 25 million coins) goes to a dead site -- hyjinxentertainment.com Payu has admitted he owns this site. If you google site:hyjinxentertainment.com you will see that they are selling Mazacoin from that site. But it's not the premine coin. Of course not... Also interesting, take a look at the archive of hyjinxentertainment.com http://web.archive.org/web/20130503114650/http://hyjinxentertainment.com Check it out and let me know what you think. I am determined to take these scammers down. J What's interesting in this info among other things is that on hyjinxentertainment.com Payu sells Mazacoin for $1, when price is MUCH MUCH LOWER. Scammer all the way. How can fanboys defend this? Also notice the clear lie "MZC it's unique value is it's place in history as the first ever crypto currency for a Sovereign tribal state." in the text. Payu lied knowingly in several places including on camera. How can his fanboys say he didn't make such claims? Quote Kimitsu Asset Management analysts set MZC price at $1.00 KAM Analysts have come out and established the opening price for MZC at $1.00 USD as a opening price. "We felt this was a reasonable opening price with the Alt Market the way it is currently, Dogecoin is setting around $1.17 in some exchanges and MAXcoin is still right around $1.28. Mazacoin at $1.00 provides for a stable base for future growth in valuation what gives MZC it's unique value is it's place in history as the first ever crypto currency for a Sovereign tribal state. As well as a meduim of exchange it is also a expression of our Treaty Rights, which we still uphold today. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Zackgeno96 on March 12, 2014, 03:49:33 AM can we put this scamming pos in jail for life???
Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: murraypaul on March 12, 2014, 10:35:32 AM How can fanboys defend this? Also notice the clear lie "MZC it's unique value is it's place in history as the first ever crypto currency for a Sovereign tribal state." in the text. Payu lied knowingly in several places including on camera. How can his fanboys says he didn't make such claims? I actually think he has been pretty careful here not to actually lie. It is the 'first crypto currency (created) for(, but not yet adopted by,) a Sovereign (,for some definition of that word,) tribal state'. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 12, 2014, 02:31:25 PM Got another pm making an interesting point:
Quote He provides the address on the website for the 25 million supposedly being held by the BTC Oyate Initiative. However, he admitted that he has these coins in cold storage -- sitting on his desk! The other 25 million that was supposedly mined by the tribe -- who knows. I'm not familiar enough with block chain exploration to try to track them down. But in any case, it doesn't really matter. The point is that these 50 million coins are NOT being held by the tribe. The are not being held by the "Initiative" group (the initiative is just Payu.) They are being held by the developers personally. They could dump them at any time. They could pull a Mt. Gox. The possibilities are endless. If they were in fact being held by the tribe, or by some organization that is obligated to distribute them to the people, I would have no problem with the whole thing. But that certainly does not seem to the be intention here. Honestly, man, I really hope this comes to an end sooner rather than later. If it gets too big, when it falls apart it's going to draw huge government attention and be used as a justification for regulation. J What this pm doesn't address, however, is the instamine that AnonPirate, Boxxa and Payu hold as personal stash. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 13, 2014, 10:52:49 PM Price action Mazacoin is now experiencing is called a bull trap http://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bulltrap.asp Quote Definition of 'Bull Trap' A false signal indicating that a declining trend in a stock or index has reversed and is heading upwards when, in fact, the security will continue to decline. Investopedia explains 'Bull Trap' A bull trap often causes some investors to buy the stock, but because the stock continues to decline after the initial signal, those who bought in are "trapped" in a bad investment. As I was saying in the above post and in here few days ago https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494105.msg5629121#msg5629121 ... Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: niothor on March 13, 2014, 11:04:56 PM Why the hell did you start a moderated thread if you allow so many shills in it?
Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 13, 2014, 11:27:14 PM Why the hell did you start a moderated thread if you allow so many shills in it? Shills are people too. :) I will only delete spam posts and those with obscene big letters. I've deleted one spam post so far copy/pasted post of what a dude already posted. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 14, 2014, 01:43:02 AM Looks familiar? https://www.facebook.com/cherie.blackfeather/posts/10201591811550308
Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 14, 2014, 01:43:27 AM Boxxa and AnonPirate the very same person?
Boxxa mentioned on his twitter feed few times he runs 2 businesses so he's not your casual paid coder. He's also a hardcore trader if you look at his previous postage and crypto mining geek. http://who.is/whois/cryptodirect.info https://twitter.com/CryptoDirect https://twitter.com/boxxa/status/296102516037390337 Boxxa From Buffalo NY City https://twitter.com/boxxa/status/437046862999453696 https://twitter.com/enjoybuffalo + other NY Buffalo related tweets He probably met with Payu during his NY visit. What's lame is that Boxxa distanced himself from AnonPirate when it came to MapleCoin launch, saying he didn't agree with the timing. He was lying through his teeth. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 14, 2014, 02:13:51 AM ...and when you think it can't sink lower
https://www.facebook.com/TarSandsAction/posts/724537677575947 Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: c3ntrx on March 15, 2014, 02:31:05 PM can we put this scamming pos in jail for life??? I met Payu at Bitcoin Center in New York. He gave me a paper wallet for $100. I went home and couldnt import the keys. The next morning I saw he emailed me. He said anyone with problems importing just send him the last 4 of the public and he'd transfer it to the exchange. I sent him my wallet address and you know what, the man kept his word and next time I checked there were coins. Yeah I bought a sh*tload more, yeah I lost money - so far. Payu kept his word which means alot. Whether he pulls this off or not who knows. Ive met alot of con men in my time and yes Payu does have some of those traits (sorry bud) however I have never met a shrewd businessman that didnt have a good game. He gave me his personal info, phone etc, howevver I will not throw him under the bus or to the wolves here. Fact is I think I may pick up more coin now that its cheap again. I'm a good judge of character, I do believe Payu has his head in the right place. Worse case scenario you made an indian a millionaire. Didn't he deserve it though, the hustle, the ingenuity? I think a man like that deserves more credibility than you are giving here. This guy is fighting lots of roadblocks and instead of bashing him we should give him the support of the community. I mean lets call a spade a spade, bitcoin would have never taken off unless the shadows gave it momentum. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Herp on March 15, 2014, 02:36:39 PM @c3ntrx
Fair enough. There is a chance he's legit. However, how do you explain the FB accusations regarding his previous fundraisers. Other natives have openly called him a scammer. He didn't bother debunking such claims. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: c3ntrx on March 16, 2014, 06:33:03 AM @c3ntrx Fair enough. There is a chance he's legit. However, how do you explain the FB accusations regarding his previous fundraisers. Other natives have openly called him a scammer. He didn't bother debunking such claims. Herp, I never said he came off to me as not a scammer, fact I must say he came off as a true hustler (and he even admitted it!). Fact is right now Payu has the worlds attention. Yes he can do a Bernie Madoff and we will all be out some btc, no big deal... Right now Payu is probably the most powerful Indian in his nation. He can step up and become a Leader of his people. I see that in him. I fully support him doing this. I hope he realizes this coin is just a small step in the direction he could take his nation and hope greed does not hinder the height in which things could go. That being said I am buying some more. Dont let me down Payu, you can make history. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Relnarien on March 16, 2014, 06:46:42 AM How many of the Lakota people are actually mining these coins though? The answer to this question is the first and most obvious sign of where this coin is actually heading. A coin can't be the sovereign currency of a tribe if no one in the tribe holds even a single piece.
Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: c3ntrx on March 16, 2014, 08:33:42 AM How many of the Lakota people are actually mining these coins though? The answer to this question is the first and most obvious sign of where this coin is actually heading. A coin can't be the sovereign currency of a tribe if no one in the tribe holds even a single piece. Who knows, maybe they will give them out or bankroll a casino. He stated he wanted to use the coins publicly for the community. I guess time will show Payu for what he is. Hopefully he can lead his people. Though he told me most of his people lost the ambition to hustle for themselves. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: genba on March 16, 2014, 08:48:54 AM @c3ntrx Fair enough. There is a chance he's legit. However, how do you explain the FB accusations regarding his previous fundraisers. Other natives have openly called him a scammer. He didn't bother debunking such claims. Herp, I never said he came off to me as not a scammer, fact I must say he came off as a true hustler (and he even admitted it!). Fact is right now Payu has the worlds attention. Yes he can do a Bernie Madoff and we will all be out some btc, no big deal... Right now Payu is probably the most powerful Indian in his nation. He can step up and become a Leader of his people. I see that in him. I fully support him doing this. I hope he realizes this coin is just a small step in the direction he could take his nation and hope greed does not hinder the height in which things could go. That being said I am buying some more. Dont let me down Payu, you can make history. >he appears to be a scammer >he admits to being a hustler >i'm buying more! >5 posts on account pt barnum's quote needs to be updated. there's a sucker born every second. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: c3ntrx on March 16, 2014, 12:02:39 PM @c3ntrx Fair enough. There is a chance he's legit. However, how do you explain the FB accusations regarding his previous fundraisers. Other natives have openly called him a scammer. He didn't bother debunking such claims. Herp, I never said he came off to me as not a scammer, fact I must say he came off as a true hustler (and he even admitted it!). Fact is right now Payu has the worlds attention. Yes he can do a Bernie Madoff and we will all be out some btc, no big deal... Right now Payu is probably the most powerful Indian in his nation. He can step up and become a Leader of his people. I see that in him. I fully support him doing this. I hope he realizes this coin is just a small step in the direction he could take his nation and hope greed does not hinder the height in which things could go. That being said I am buying some more. Dont let me down Payu, you can make history. >he appears to be a scammer >he admits to being a hustler >i'm buying more! >5 posts on account pt barnum's quote needs to be updated. there's a sucker born every second. My bad. I just have Balls of Steel unlike those that dumped. I'll ride a longshot. I killed it with Doge ;p Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Prominence on March 16, 2014, 12:16:50 PM I'd rather trust a critic with a reputation than a random bagholder.
Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: c3ntrx on March 18, 2014, 01:15:49 AM http://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local/ost-s-brewer-co-chairs-indian-health-service-budget-committee/article_056f12db-30bb-54fd-a679-40e828e7b22b.html
This guy is said to have undermined the project. Look where it got him. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: niothor on March 18, 2014, 01:18:55 AM http://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local/ost-s-brewer-co-chairs-indian-health-service-budget-committee/article_056f12db-30bb-54fd-a679-40e828e7b22b.html This guy is said to have undermined the project. Look where it got him. He seems like a nice guy. In fact i would trust this guy rather than the last fake satoshi , based on looks. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: woetohice on March 19, 2014, 03:08:19 AM 11 Million Mazacoin were transferred out of the "Oglala Lakota National MazaCoin Reserve" yesterday.
Here's the page that lists the address: http://mazacoin.org/about.html Here's the block explorer for the National Reserve's address: http://explorer.mazacoin.org/address/MNG15HKzUQeiT8QmtAghvSKpQwwgzZSFzS Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Bit_Happy on March 19, 2014, 03:30:33 AM 11 Million Mazacoin were transferred out of the "Oglala Lakota National MazaCoin Reserve" yesterday. Here's the page that lists the address: http://mazacoin.org/about.html Here's the block explorer for the National Reserve's address: http://explorer.mazacoin.org/address/MNG15HKzUQeiT8QmtAghvSKpQwwgzZSFzS That's for food, education and dental work for 10 Little Indians. :D Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: c3ntrx on March 19, 2014, 07:56:22 AM 11 Million Mazacoin were transferred out of the "Oglala Lakota National MazaCoin Reserve" yesterday. Here's the page that lists the address: http://mazacoin.org/about.html Here's the block explorer for the National Reserve's address: http://explorer.mazacoin.org/address/MNG15HKzUQeiT8QmtAghvSKpQwwgzZSFzS That's for food, education and dental work for 10 Little Indians. :D Interesting. I wonder what Payu had to say at the meetup yesterday in Silicon Valley... http://www.meetup.com/Silicon-Valley-Bitcoin-Users/events/165612122/ Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: marquix on March 30, 2014, 08:19:27 PM These guys are too much https://twitter.com/MapleCoin2014/status/443096992919851009 Quote Because of the deep penetration of Crypto-Currency in Canada, the MapleCoin Development Team has chosen to have absolutely NO pre-mine and a "klondike style" public launch. Because MapleCoin is a scrypt based mining coin, this means the public launch can be fair and democratic allowing everyone to mine MapleCoin even on their home PCs at first. All CPU/GPU miners will be welcome. Pools and other user tools will be made available at launch. So much for national currency. I find it disturbing how few people can see that the 5% Mazacoin pre-mine is peanuts, when it comes to distributing it to the Lakotas. Actually less than 5% was going to actually be distributed. the "national" Crypto coin thing is what's too much (in my view) as it clearly defies the entire concept of Crypto coins -- which is being exactly FREE from central authority and/or points of failure and/or concentrations, clusterings or what you want to call it AKA national or local connections. This goes for all the "nationalized" piles of garbage out there from Auroracoin (a racist Iceland-first thing) over Spaincoin, Mediterraneancoin to Polandcoin (maybe not so much for Maplecoin or Mazacoin though as they explicitly keep themselves open "beyond borders" so to speak) -- I don't know what the heck those other guys are thinking (if anything at all) limiting their potential market in advance?!? Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Bit_Happy on March 30, 2014, 10:53:41 PM Epic scam was huge for a few days.
Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: marquix on March 31, 2014, 08:50:36 AM Epic scam was huge for a few days. still no one has bothered to explain WHY mazacoins should be a scam?? It's great to shout "scam" all over the place and then not have anything to base such claims upon -- again, did I miss something here? Would someone please care to explain why Mazacoin is said to be a scam? Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: niothor on March 31, 2014, 09:08:40 AM Epic scam was huge for a few days. still no one has bothered to explain WHY mazacoins should be a scam?? It's great to shout "scam" all over the place and then not have anything to base such claims upon -- again, did I miss something here? Would someone please care to explain why Mazacoin is said to be a scam? Read the title.. Maza is the first sovereign currency. Except that the people who are supposed to use it as a currency don't have a clue about it. I can launch the siouxcoin today, and that would match what maza claims. My coin would be also a sovereign currency. It's just a fake coin that promises what it can't deliver Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: marquix on March 31, 2014, 12:03:33 PM Epic scam was huge for a few days. still no one has bothered to explain WHY mazacoins should be a scam?? It's great to shout "scam" all over the place and then not have anything to base such claims upon -- again, did I miss something here? Would someone please care to explain why Mazacoin is said to be a scam? Read the title.. Maza is the first sovereign currency. Except that the people who are supposed to use it as a currency don't have a clue about it. I can launch the siouxcoin today, and that would match what maza claims. My coin would be also a sovereign currency. It's just a fake coin that promises what it can't deliver That isn't good enough, anything real making this a scam? "Sovereign" are First Nations, not the coins :))) or the currency. We all know that this "sovereignty" is subject to Uncle Sam's arbitrary policies as we all know since Tom Sawyer's nursery stories, so, yes, that's a "sovereign risk" there (literally) but that would also apply to U. S. dollars, euroes, or yen. Scamcoins are coins like "minimalistic" Mincoin, Goldcoin or similar -- as well as the ones not worth your hashing power for failing to understand that Crypto is borderless and not to be confined to some "country". I can see that the Mazacoin devs have serious intentions, and we'll see whether or not mazacoins will deliver... Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: CryptoDirect on April 22, 2014, 04:55:31 AM An Essay On Native Tribal Sovereignty & The Legitimacy Of MazaCoin
Tuesday - April 22, 2014 In this essay we are going to explore a dichotomy which is absolutely typical of the vast majority of sovereign Tribal Nations in the USA and Canada. Because we are also going to explore the questions of legitimacy regarding MazaCoin, we will focus on the Traditional Lakota Nation - but understand that in general this is what most Native Americans face with regard to wielding the sovereignty to which they are entitled under treaty. Let's begin with a question. If President Obama literally received his paycheck from the Kremlin in Moscow, or the Chinese government in Beijing - could you really say he represents in any way either the interests or the legitimacy of the USA? Well guess who pays the so called "elected" government of the Oglala Lakota Nation? The USA Bureau of Indian Affairs. The BIA isn't some nice bureaucracy in Washington with the Native Americans best interests at heart. They are a ruthless occupational army with armored personnel carriers, para-military troops with automatic weapons - and a mandate from the early 1900's to control and suppress the Native Nations of the USA at any cost. Working hand in hand with the secret police of the USA otherwise known as the FBI, they today conduct what was a hot war until the 1970's. Now it is an economic war of blockade and slow attrition. The goal is to finish the genocide they started in the 1800's, here's a picture of the US Army burying in trenches the men, women and children they massacred at Wounded Knee. Note that many of them are smiling as they do so. http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w84/deer_012/woundedknee2.jpg Since the USA began to break the Treaty of 1868 almost before the ink was dry, the Lakota continued to fight. This war was a shooting war right up to the mid 1970's culminating in the circumstances that led to the now famous "Incident At Oglala". Let's explore this deeper, as it bears heavily on everything we will discuss hence. At that time, in the 70's - the "elected" and BIA approved "government" of the Oglala Lakota Nation was run by a ruthless and barbaric tyrant named "President" Dick Wilson. President Wilson, using arms and training supplied by the BIA and FBI proceeded to form death squads who roamed the reservations of the Lakota and in a few short years murdered in cold blood at least 70 of his own people for resistance to his regime or defiance of the USA. Not only did the FBI stand back and let it happen, they actively assisted Dick Wilson's death squads with intelligence and provocations. Finally one day in the late 70's, in utter despair and rage - dozens of armed native Americans defended themselves and shot two FBI agents literally to pieces with rifles during a fire fight at a complex called Jumping Bull. Incident At Oglala - Full Movie: Narrated By Robert Redford -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoKXo1Vg2qM (watch both parts) As a side note, the Native Americans who admitted to blasting these two FBI agents to bits were exonerated in court on grounds of self-defense, so in rage the USA government imprisoned for life Leonard Peltier - an AIM activist, who was patently innocent of anything. He is the only political prisoner in the USA recognized as such by Amnesty International. After the incident at Jumping Bull, the Lakota Nation was invaded by hundreds of heavily armed troops of the FBI and BIA, and ruthlessly suppressed. And that is where it stands today, where the FBI continue to harass and illegally surveil anyone who dares speak of Lakota sovereignty - such as Payu Harris the MazaCoin spokesperson. Today the war is economic and political. That is why MazaCoin is such a vital weapon for the Lakota, it might be all they have left to fight with. Under both US and international law, a Treaty - ANY Treaty, is by definition an agreement between two (or more in the case of the UN) sovereign nations. The Treaty recognizing the Lakota Nation has full and complete sovereignty, indeed recognizing that their sovereignty predates the very existence of the USA - was signed in 1868. That is why the motto of MazaCoin, which is in the genesis block and on the paper wallets and website is: "1868 Is The Law". This Treaty is recognized by the United Nations. In fact a Treaty passed by the Senate and signed by the President trumps any law of the USA, even the Constitution itself - according to that very Constitution. When this Treaty was entered into, there was no BIA approved "elected" government of the Lakota Nation. Such an entity came much later as a tool of the oppressive policies of the USA in an attempt to marginalize and limit the sovereignty and success of the Lakota Nation. The Treaty was entered into with the only true and legitimate representatives of the Lakota Nation, namely the Treaty Council, the Council of Elders and various groups of warriors who today have become the Lakota Military Societies. All of these bodies still exist to this day in unbroken lineage, and they are the only legal and legitimate representatives of the Lakota Nation and the sole holders of the symbols of sovereignty as enumerated in the 1868 Treaty. But the reporters and journalists either don't care about this, or actively ignore it out of sympathy for the USA. When these Elders and Warriors send representatives to Washington to present proclamations seceding from the USA, as they have done a couple of times already - who do the reporters call to check if it is legitimate? Ah dear reader you are learning, you guessed it. They call the "elected" BIA approved government offices. And of course, what response do these "journalists" receive and publish? So when MazaCoin took the world by storm this year, with the bold claim that we are the Sovereign National Currency of the Traditional Lakota Nation - once again who did the reporters contact to verify this? The "elected" and BIA approved government of course. And let's examine their response. First, President Brewer claimed he knew nothing whatsoever about MazaCoin. This is patently false and not only can Payu Harris attest to it, but so can I because I wrote him from Canada last year. And when Payu went to him to inform him of MazaCoin, note NOT ask for his permission as he can't grant it anyway - but inform him of what we were doing, not only did he know the full details but he said he would at least remain silent and let us be. So he both broke his word to us and lied to the media. MazaCoin is the Sovereign National Currency of the Traditional Lakota Nation, with the ascent of those who hold the symbols of that sovereignty according to the Treaty of 1868. It is a fact. We do not need to "prove" this to anyone, although we have gone to great lengths to do so. In the end, it's legitimacy depends a great deal on whose side you are on in a horrible war to completely destroy these people and their nation - and wipe their culture from the face of the earth. Do you believe the USA and it's surrogate "elected" BIA approved government? Or do you believe Payu Harris and the Elders who have, in some cases publicly - attested to this legitimacy? Believe the oppressed or the oppressors, in the end the choice is yours. Written By: AP Master Coin Maker - MazaCoin NOTE: The opinions expressed in this piece are strictly my own, and represent my own understanding of the history of the Lakota Nation and it's people. Any factual errors are my own. I am not a Native American, I can not speak for them - and I surely can not imagine how they feel today about anything. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: CryptoDirect on April 22, 2014, 05:05:56 AM P. S. For the fellow who wants to make SiouxCoin. The Sioux and the Lakota are one Nation, they have been for about 100 years now. Just saying....
~~ AP Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: murraypaul on April 22, 2014, 08:25:37 AM First, President Brewer claimed he knew nothing whatsoever about MazaCoin. No he didn't, he said: Quote “There has been no action taken by the council to approve of a new currency. The economic development office gave a letter of support to Harris to continue to research the industry and that was it. As far as it being an official currency of the tribe that is not true at all. Any action like that would need to go through the council,” Quote MazaCoin is the Sovereign National Currency of the Traditional Lakota Nation, with the ascent of those who hold the symbols of that sovereignty according to the Treaty of 1868. It is a fact. We do not need to "prove" this to anyone, although we have gone to great lengths to do so. And yet you haven't managed to produce any actual statement from anyone saying so? Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: niothor on April 22, 2014, 08:42:13 AM P. S. For the fellow who wants to make SiouxCoin. The Sioux and the Lakota are one Nation, they have been for about 100 years now. Just saying.... ~~ AP Yeah , and we can have btc and ltc equivalent for them. Besides , no Siouxs have ever heard of mazacoin , so the name isn't a problem , just how many of the bagholders don't have a clue who the hell the lakota are. We just have to claim we're the sovereign currency of the Sioux nation and cash in on the Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: CryptoDirect on April 22, 2014, 01:36:51 PM LOL.
Brewer's "Council" have absolutely ZERO authority to make any claim, either regards MazaCoin or regards sovereignty in general. The only people who recognize his "authority" are sympathizers with the USA and their BIA and FBI armies. Please. As for statements by the Treaty Council and Elders. They do not work that way. They operate by consensus and verbal acclamation. And several have gone on video and we published those. That's the only "statement" you are going to get. Brewer is at best a land manager, at worst a collaborator with an enemy nation. He has authority to fix the streets and collect the garbage, nothing more. I am done here. BitCoinTalk is a cesspool of racist bigots. Go say the pledge of allegiance to the flag of your nazi-facist nation and we'll take care of MazaCoin. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: murraypaul on April 22, 2014, 03:37:44 PM Strange then that your own mazacoin.org webpage links to http://www.oglalalakotanation.org/oln/Home.html, which shows Brewer as President.
And you agree you have no statements from anyone representing the tribe to agree that it has been adopted as an official currency. Brewer was voted for by his own people, which is more than is true for you. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: poornamelessme on April 22, 2014, 06:27:30 PM Strange then that your own mazacoin.org webpage links to http://www.oglalalakotanation.org/oln/Home.html, which shows Brewer as President. And you agree you have no statements from anyone representing the tribe to agree that it has been adopted as an official currency. Brewer was voted for by his own people, which is more than is true for you. I believe Brewer did come out later on (semi recently) saying they were reviewing mazacoin, which is more than he ever said previously. At least he publicly admitted he knew what it was. But no, no public statements from the tribe saying they already accepted it has come out. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: Bit_Happy on April 22, 2014, 11:52:31 PM .... I am done here. BitCoinTalk is a cesspool of racist bigots. Go say the pledge of allegiance to the flag of your nazi-facist nation and we'll take care of MazaCoin. No There are not many visible racists here, compared to the "nice" people. Surely you must be mistaken, BTC brings the world closer together. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: niteglider on June 24, 2014, 04:08:56 PM LOL. Brewer's "Council" have absolutely ZERO authority to make any claim, either regards MazaCoin or regards sovereignty in general. The only people who recognize his "authority" are sympathizers with the USA and their BIA and FBI armies. Please. As for statements by the Treaty Council and Elders. They do not work that way. They operate by consensus and verbal acclamation. And several have gone on video and we published those. That's the only "statement" you are going to get. Brewer is at best a land manager, at worst a collaborator with an enemy nation. He has authority to fix the streets and collect the garbage, nothing more. I am done here. BitCoinTalk is a cesspool of racist bigots. Go say the pledge of allegiance to the flag of your nazi-facist nation and we'll take care of MazaCoin. Please provide links to the video statements you reference above. I hope you are for real, and that this actually does some good for the people you claim to represent. If so, do not take personally the attackers and skeptics. These are to be expected. Be thick skinned if you are actually trying to do good. Be steadfast. Be here, be open and informative, and ignore the naysayers. Title: Re: Mazacoin ** FAKE Sovereign Currency ** Post by: crusher72 on October 24, 2018, 10:39:29 PM I havn't heard anything from the devs, cryptopia has frozen Maza since the 51% attack. I feel it's time to fork this coin and update the features with worker bees from Litecoin Cash, after that is released to help thwart further attacks and to revive MazaCoin. If anyone is interested in helping me relaunch Mazacoin, let me know. Because I do believe in the vision, however Payu can only go so far. I think it's time we as a group take over and push this coin past these imposed limits. It's only a scam if everyone let's it just die. If the Lakota's use Maza in their own Tribal communities, then we need this to be able to be converted to BTC and then into USD as well. If the exchanges are dead and no one can convert, the coin itself dies and loses value. This should not happen, there are two sides to getting this coin off the ground. First is the Lakota nation's acceptance and use, and second is focusing on mass adoption and speculative investment outside of the Lakota. Without both it can't work, even if the Lakota accepted it completely, the value with no market is nil. I run Bitinterest.net and I think I can help expose this coin in a positive light in the near future. Please tell me someone see's this, or if this vision is truly dead, let's come up with a new idea for a new coin that can actually work and make a difference.
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