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Title: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech help him
Post by: dikiz on December 23, 2018, 10:54:35 PM
He's head of IT in a big company (Energy Industry), "B", and I'm in company "C". We met 3 years ago in company "A" which was also a huge energy company.

In his scope there are internal financial apps, I suppose they are doing more or less doing the same thing as in company A, meaning:

  • Manage bills of expenses / expense accounts
  • Manage and monitor corporate budgets (by departement / or projects / or directors)
  • Manage workflow of validation processes for corporate investments
  • Manage property portfolio of the group

He said "hey I remember you were into BTC, do you know how these technologies could help my business?" But there is a big difference between holding a couple of btc and alts and being a fintech crypto consultant!

I don't know much about his needs or problem he's trying to solve, we barely talked, he just mentionned the fact "I'd like to innovate"...
So can you guys think of some specific crypto technology or blockchain services designed for companies? Any hint would be welcome.



Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech can help him
Post by: Morarity on December 23, 2018, 10:59:41 PM
~snip~

Check for Ethereum ERC-20, although I know this is a bitcoin forum, however if it is a fintech company it is worth looking about how ethereum platform is operating in every aspects.

Good luck.


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech can help him
Post by: LoyceV on December 23, 2018, 11:19:12 PM
He's head of IT in a big company (Energy Industry)
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he just mentionned the fact "I'd like to innovate"...
I think this is a terrible idea! It sounds like a manager who's heard of something and wants it, even though he has no idea what it does and what it's used for.
In general, if you can do something without a blockchain, you should do it without a blockchain.


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech can help him
Post by: dikiz on December 24, 2018, 12:08:07 AM
In general, if you can do something without a blockchain, you should do it without a blockchain.
Why?


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech can help him
Post by: mikeywith on December 24, 2018, 12:08:48 AM
He's head of IT in a big company (Energy Industry), "B", and I'm in company "C". We met 3 years ago in company "A" which was also a huge energy company.

In his scope there are internal financial apps, I suppose they are doing more or less doing the same thing as in company A, meaning:

  • Manage bills of expenses / expense accounts
  • Manage and monitor corporate budgets (by departement / or projects / or directors)
  • Manage workflow of validation processes for corporate investments
  • Manage property portfolio of the group

He said "hey I remember you were into BTC, do you know how these technologies could help my business?" But there is a big difference between holding a couple of btc and alts and being a fintech crypto consultant!

I don't know much about his needs or problem he's trying to solve, we barely talked, he just mentionned the fact "I'd like to innovate"...
So can you guys think of some specific crypto technology or blockchain services designed for companies? Any hint would be welcome.



BTC itself will be of no use to your case " provided i understood you well", maybe invest some of the company holdings into bitcoin ? aside from that i can't think of any possible way that you or your company will benefit from BTC for the time being.

The only thing that you might make use of is the smart contact implemented on ETH or EOS.

you can pretty much implement all the points mentioned in your post on a smart contract, if you have a running app that keeps records of all the data, you can migrate it to a Dapp on the block-chain.




Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech can help him
Post by: Abdussamad on December 24, 2018, 12:15:48 AM
When his company gets infected with ransomware he'll need bitcoin in hand to pay the ransom in a timely manner. So he should start creating a bitcoin reserve now.

In the meantime it'll also prove useful to pay pentesters as part of bug bounties. I'm sure he'll attract more talent if btc is one form of payment on offer.


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech can help him
Post by: ranman09 on December 24, 2018, 12:16:35 AM
He actually needs to know how he's going to use blockchain for his company. For energy industry, there are a bunch of companies in the energy industry that uses blockchain. Check and research Terawatt (for now, the only one I know though I said bunch) for how they use blockchain to innovate their process.

Most of the times a company would fall into ERC-20 eth smart contracts because it is easier to use. Quick hint you will need so many resources and they will be hard to find. *blockchain developers


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech can help him
Post by: dikiz on December 24, 2018, 12:22:13 AM
He actually needs to know how he's going to use blockchain for his company. For energy industry, there are a bunch of companies in the energy industry that uses blockchain. Check and research Terawatt (for now, the only one I know though I said bunch) for how they use blockchain to innovate their process.

Most of the times a company would fall into ERC-20 eth smart contracts because it is easier to use. Quick hint you will need so many resources and they will be hard to find. *blockchain developers
I'll check out. But the apps I'm talking about are not really energy related. It's more financial apps you can find in any large group.

As for the ERC 20 smart contracts, yea that was what I assume...


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech can help him
Post by: dikiz on December 24, 2018, 12:39:47 AM
He's head of IT in a big company (Energy Industry), "B", and I'm in company "C". We met 3 years ago in company "A" which was also a huge energy company.

In his scope there are internal financial apps, I suppose they are doing more or less doing the same thing as in company A, meaning:

  • Manage bills of expenses / expense accounts
  • Manage and monitor corporate budgets (by departement / or projects / or directors)
  • Manage workflow of validation processes for corporate investments
  • Manage property portfolio of the group

He said "hey I remember you were into BTC, do you know how these technologies could help my business?" But there is a big difference between holding a couple of btc and alts and being a fintech crypto consultant!

I don't know much about his needs or problem he's trying to solve, we barely talked, he just mentionned the fact "I'd like to innovate"...
So can you guys think of some specific crypto technology or blockchain services designed for companies? Any hint would be welcome.



BTC itself will be of no use to your case " provided i understood you well", maybe invest some of the company holdings into bitcoin ? aside from that i can't think of any possible way that you or your company will benefit from BTC for the time being.

The only thing that you might make use of is the smart contact implemented on ETH or EOS.

you can pretty much implement all the points mentioned in your post on a smart contract, if you have a running app that keeps records of all the data, you can migrate it to a Dapp on the block-chain.
I'm supposed to have lunch with him sometimes this week, so I will know more about his needs.

Which companies have implemented ETH? How they did it?


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech can help him
Post by: bitmover on December 24, 2018, 02:39:52 AM
He's head of IT in a big company (Energy Industry)
~
he just mentionned the fact "I'd like to innovate"...
I think this is a terrible idea! It sounds like a manager who's heard of something and wants it, even though he has no idea what it does and what it's used for.
In general, if you can do something without a blockchain, you should do it without a blockchain.

Ionce heard Andreas Antonopoulos saying exactly that. If you can do without a blockchain, you should do it without.
In simple terms,  blockchain is a slow and expensive database. It is very useful for especific situations


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech help him
Post by: philipma1957 on December 24, 2018, 05:02:42 AM
Okay what is a huge energy company?

Let’s say it has holdings in hydro power.

What does this huge energy company do with excess power produced when rivers are flowing fast due to rainfall?

If they have a deal with a mining farm they can sell excess power at floating amounts.

I consulted with a farm build that did this.


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech can help him
Post by: LoyceV on December 24, 2018, 08:16:01 AM
In general, if you can do something without a blockchain, you should do it without a blockchain.
Why?
Why would you use any "innovation" if you don't know what it can improve in your business?

If anything, they can start accepting Bitcoin for energy payments, but not many people will use it.


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech can help him
Post by: dikiz on December 24, 2018, 08:32:34 AM
In general, if you can do something without a blockchain, you should do it without a blockchain.
Why?
Why would you use any "innovation" if you don't know what it can improve in your business?

If anything, they can start accepting Bitcoin for energy payments, but not many people will use it.

Your comment above said "as a general rule, stay away blockchain if you can", not "in the specific situation where your needs aren't clearly defined, stay away"


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech help him
Post by: khaled0111 on December 24, 2018, 01:55:20 PM
Read this article:
How Smart Contracts Could Change The Way You Do Business (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/forbescoachescouncil/2018/05/16/how-smart-contracts-could-change-the-way-you-do-business/amp/), there are good examples on how to use smart contracts to automate regular tasks.

Since you are in the energy industry, think about starting a mining farm  ;D


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech help him
Post by: dikiz on December 24, 2018, 02:11:28 PM
Read this article: ]
How Smart Contracts Could Change The Way You Do Business (https://www.[Suspicious link removed), there are good examples on how to use smart contracts to automate regular tasks.

Since you are in the energy industry, think about starting a mining farm  ;D

The title sounds on point, will check out thank you


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech help him
Post by: dikiz on December 25, 2018, 04:28:35 PM
bump


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech help him
Post by: bravehearth0319 on December 25, 2018, 05:15:52 PM
He's head of IT in a big company (Energy Industry), "B", and I'm in company "C". We met 3 years ago in company "A" which was also a huge energy company.

In his scope there are internal financial apps, I suppose they are doing more or less doing the same thing as in company A, meaning:

  • Manage bills of expenses / expense accounts
  • Manage and monitor corporate budgets (by departement / or projects / or directors)
  • Manage workflow of validation processes for corporate investments
  • Manage property portfolio of the group

He said "hey I remember you were into BTC, do you know how these technologies could help my business?" But there is a big difference between holding a couple of btc and alts and being a fintech crypto consultant!

I don't know much about his needs or problem he's trying to solve, we barely talked, he just mentionned the fact "I'd like to innovate"...
So can you guys think of some specific crypto technology or blockchain services designed for companies? Any hint would be welcome.



In the first place in my opinion, I do not know how can you connect the company into blockchain technology? Perhaps, the first thing that you should know by now is, you need to what is blockchain  really all about and and what is its usages together with it features too. Though, I believed that holding bitcoin and altcoins can't be the same. But there are some companies now in the other country they connected into blockchain technology.


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech help him
Post by: automaticmoney on December 25, 2018, 06:19:46 PM
in one word crypto provide us transparency and security and easy ledger keeping any industry can easily be adapted to blockchain and tokenise the coin in cryptocurrency so every industry need it


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech help him
Post by: dikiz on December 25, 2018, 09:21:40 PM
in one word crypto provide us transparency and security and easy ledger keeping any industry can easily be adapted to blockchain and tokenise the coin in cryptocurrency so every industry need it
Can you be more specific and name some market solution or companies which have implemented such technology


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech can help him
Post by: seoincorporation on December 25, 2018, 09:40:01 PM
~snip~

Check for Ethereum ERC-20, although I know this is a bitcoin forum, however if it is a fintech company it is worth looking about how ethereum platform is operating in every aspects.

Good luck.

Well, maybe one way to to aproach the smart contracts, but i think the best way is to use blockchain as databases... if i'm not wrong all this stuff can be managed by blockchain:

Quote
Manage bills of expenses / expense accounts
Manage and monitor corporate budgets (by departement / or projects / or directors)
Manage workflow of validation processes for corporate investments
Manage property portfolio of the group

I'm not sure about how exactly but is possible.


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech help him
Post by: coinwizard_ on December 25, 2018, 11:26:14 PM
He could find people that would work for crypto currencies rather than cash. As an energy company they can have cheap energy to mine some coins which they can then use to pay people with


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech help him
Post by: dikiz on December 25, 2018, 11:50:49 PM
He could find people that would work for crypto currencies rather than cash. As an energy company they can have cheap energy to mine some coins which they can then use to pay people with

Such strategic decisions would be made at the board of directors level. Way beyond his capacities.

He is just Head of IT looking forward new options to manage his system.


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech help him
Post by: lrvjvt on December 27, 2018, 08:21:04 AM
It depends on whether your company really wants to use crypto-related technology instead of speculating it. If your company develops crypto for the purpose of issuing an ico, then this is completely meaningless to you.


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech help him
Post by: KingScorpio on December 27, 2018, 08:25:37 AM
He's head of IT in a big company (Energy Industry), "B", and I'm in company "C". We met 3 years ago in company "A" which was also a huge energy company.

In his scope there are internal financial apps, I suppose they are doing more or less doing the same thing as in company A, meaning:

  • Manage bills of expenses / expense accounts
  • Manage and monitor corporate budgets (by departement / or projects / or directors)
  • Manage workflow of validation processes for corporate investments
  • Manage property portfolio of the group

He said "hey I remember you were into BTC, do you know how these technologies could help my business?" But there is a big difference between holding a couple of btc and alts and being a fintech crypto consultant!

I don't know much about his needs or problem he's trying to solve, we barely talked, he just mentionned the fact "I'd like to innovate"...
So can you guys think of some specific crypto technology or blockchain services designed for companies? Any hint would be welcome.



tell your boss how to create an ico and then pay you his employee with his own cryptotoken then lol  ;D

i want to see your face, when your boss pays your next salary in his private token...


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech help him
Post by: eternalgloom on December 27, 2018, 10:30:42 AM
Look, if you yourself have to ask here how he can use crypto, you shouldn't be advising him in the first place.
I know that might sound harsh, but you're going to save yourself from a whole world of trouble if things don't work out.

Let's look at the easiest and most straightforward suggestion you can make: accepting Bitcoin/cryptocurrency as payments from customers.

Now imagine your boss allocates resources into making this happen.
Then it doesn't bring in as much revenue as he'd hoped
Who is he going to blame, you think?

Same with running an ICO or investing into creating a blockchain.
If the results aren't good, you're going to be the one who's held responsible.

Again, the fact that you have to ask here, in a way that's so vague, tells me that you definitely aren't the person who should be giving advice on this.

Don't listen to anyone in this thread who's advising you otherwise, they're not in a position to be advising you, they're only here because they earn a couple of dollars each month for posting.
They're probably somewhere in a 3rd world county in some internet café, putting in the hours to make ridiculously low amounts of money by spamming this forum.


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech help him
Post by: otong on December 27, 2018, 11:04:52 AM
I am sure that there are many benefits for companies, for example, managing the whole workflow.
this is an interesting question for me because your boss's ideas are the same as mine and I am in line with your boss how bitcoin is used as a business or entrepreneurial control in my daily life. great later


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech help him
Post by: ongkok87 on December 27, 2018, 12:29:48 PM
I am sure that there are many benefits for companies, for example, managing the whole workflow.
of course, because you introduce blockchain and crypto technology will definitely help your boss to make payment more easily but by using crypto coins


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech help him
Post by: dikiz on December 27, 2018, 01:03:43 PM
Don't listen to anyone in this thread who's advising you otherwise, they're not in a position to be advising you, they're only here because they earn a couple of dollars each month for posting.
They're probably somewhere in a 3rd world county in some internet café, putting in the hours to make ridiculously low amounts of money by spamming this forum.
Yes. I've found out about that a while ago. Everybody's supporting BTC to do death and think it's going to change to world, but when asked concretely how, it is more difficult to get answers.

But look, I didn't say I'm going to be the futurist, or innovation manager of the group, not even initiate the blockchain transformation of the company!
My ex-boss is just looking for some insights of this technology. What it has to offer, and possibly solve its problems. It is some kind of pre-market research.
He asked me because I'm the only he heard talking about cyrpto around him. He has no other entry point to this day. I'm just supposed to make a little paper or a presentation. I guess that putting him in company with the right people is part of my job (even if he didn't state it, it seems logical).

We are talking about a company of about 10 000 000 000€ revenue, there's no way he's going to take courses about it as it was suggested, people have little information about how large compagnies work.


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech help him
Post by: franky1 on December 27, 2018, 01:07:28 PM
here goes

instead of needing a main bank account for business B and then having to pay out funds when requested by each department. and needing auditors to check the validity. and needing teams of staff communicate to ensure 2 decision makers dont both pay the same department(mistakes).. blockchains can help

1.imagine the company has $1m cashflow in its account. and say an R&D gets 10%. instead of handing out $100k and then need auditors to check that the R&D are using the funds wisely or check the department are not then later asking the saturday 'intern/temp" staff to wire more under a ruse that there was a mistake in getting $100k (thus R&D now get $200k). a blockchain can be used as the funds request/auditor and fund spending monitor system all in one.

imagine having a altcoin of 1m coins. the company can hand out the coins to departments. and then the departments then can 'claim' fiat using the coins given. where by a note is added to the transaction at exchange to show the purpose.

now each department can easily request funds without needing human decision makers(cost reduction: less staff)
(each quarter the R&D gets an automatic 100k coins tx sent to them)

now each department no longer has access to the main companies account (better security: less syphoning funds)
(R&D will not get $200k because its easier to spot that it already received 100k coin. and at exchange for fiat will also pick up if they are suddenly trying to get $200k where they should only have $100k)

now each department can easily show spending without needing human auditors(cost reduction: less staff)
(R&D at exchange 'spend' 2k coins with a note 'Jeff's monthly salary account xxxxxx bank branch yyyyy')

now the coins can be smart contracted needing 3 people to sign off on transactions, without needing to involve banks to set up special bank access stuff

the company can see exactly where funds went because they can trace transactions of a blockchain. where a department got 100k coins and how those 100k then moved around in the company

blockchains are in simple terms a relationship database. but made in such a way that no individual can just edit the data as their copy of the data is only editing their copy as there is no master copy.
the company has multiple copies which can all independently check that they are all holding the same data. and flag up any instances of malicious edits, knowing which department is editing it.


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech help him
Post by: dikiz on December 29, 2018, 03:56:35 PM
You think that blockchain remove the need of auditors?
I don't know in other countries, but in mine it is a legal obligation: accounts have to be audited and certified


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech can help him
Post by: Johnzky on December 29, 2018, 04:13:16 PM
In general, if you can do something without a blockchain, you should do it without a blockchain.
Why?
Why would you use any "innovation" if you don't know what it can improve in your business?

If anything, they can start accepting Bitcoin for energy payments, but not many people will use it.
Yeah right,it dependson what region you are to use this for some kind of transactions like in my country our electric company provider accept bitcoin as a payments

And another right about the word INNOVATION since its hard to make trial and error when you are talking about company,better your boss learn it from himself,let him enter this forum and study the crypto world


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech can help him
Post by: dikiz on December 30, 2018, 02:46:25 AM
In general, if you can do something without a blockchain, you should do it without a blockchain.
Why?
Why would you use any "innovation" if you don't know what it can improve in your business?

If anything, they can start accepting Bitcoin for energy payments, but not many people will use it.
Yeah right,it dependson what region you are to use this for some kind of transactions like in my country our electric company provider accept bitcoin as a payments

And another right about the word INNOVATION since its hard to make trial and error when you are talking about company,better your boss learn it from himself,let him enter this forum and study the crypto world

As I said previously, he's never going to do that. Not the role of a Head of IT


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech help him
Post by: Andruha1993 on December 30, 2018, 06:57:19 AM
I think he needs experienced crypto-consultants who can explain to him what the blockchain is and how it works. And then, as your boss will represent what the blockchain is, it will already make a decision whether to introduce this innovation or not.


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech help him
Post by: samcrypto on December 30, 2018, 11:40:31 AM
I’m not an expert in blockchain technology but I believe this technology is really meant to help businesses. Just like the coin XRP where a lot of banks adopted that technology and use it in their business, now they are having a good run with it and for sure many big companie will follow. Its good for your boss to look for a crypto company that is base on your place, its more safe to deal with the experts than to anyone.


Title: Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech help him
Post by: dikiz on December 31, 2018, 01:45:57 PM
I am sure that today every businessman should know how to use crypto as it will help to manage company using blockchain
How?