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Title: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: Agarthian on December 24, 2018, 09:11:04 AM
At 20K it went.

Down back to 17K and people said Bull Market Not Over.



At 3K it went

Back up to 4K


What people say now ? :)



:) :) :)


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: dandannn on December 24, 2018, 09:29:08 AM
Nobody knows, anyone who claims differently is talking rubbish.

You will find plenty of speculated guesses but only pay attention to the people who actually back up what they are saying.

Anyone can pull a random figure out of their ass


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: master2080 on December 24, 2018, 09:41:09 AM
Nobody knows, anyone who claims differently is talking rubbish.

You will find plenty of speculated guesses but only pay attention to the people who actually back up what they are saying.

Anyone can pull a random figure out of their ass

Anyone can pull a backing claim out of their ass as well, so always verify.


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: KingScorpio on December 24, 2018, 10:37:26 AM
At 20K it went.

Down back to 17K and people said Bull Market Not Over.



At 3K it went

Back up to 4K


What people say now ? :)



:) :) :)


people talk according to their interests,

bitcoinholders -> Bull market is comming

Nocoiners -> Its over for Bitcoin.

believe no one of those, truth you can find only in social support research, and even that one is incomplete and like a view through sunglasses. faded and distorted.

regards


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: Red-Apple on December 24, 2018, 10:51:45 AM
if you are looking to "people" to tell you what to do then i have to warn you that you are in a world of hurt ;)

everyone should make their own decisions and live with the result of those decisions because nobody else would care. a couple of years ago when "people" were saying bitcoin is dead and price was at $200 some listened to these "people" and lived with that decisions. a year ago when they again listened to these "people" telling them bitcoin is a bubble and didn't buy until the last minute at the peak of the bubble and lose money because of it, again it is their own fault.

it is the same today too. if you buy now and price goes down to zero YOU are losing money. and if you buy today and price goes to $1 million again YOU make profit not the people who told you to do whatever...


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: felicita on December 24, 2018, 11:00:21 AM
i dont really understand you did you investet in at 20 000 prize ?
Or you just wondering what people or Blogs posting and what the chart doing XD


regards


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: KingScorpio on December 24, 2018, 11:09:12 AM
i dont really understand you did you investet in at 20 000 prize ?
Or you just wondering what people or Blogs posting and what the chart doing XD


regards

he wants to point out that he thinks its pointless to care what people think


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: Lucius on December 24, 2018, 11:44:51 AM
if you are looking to "people" to tell you what to do then i have to warn you that you are in a world of hurt ;)

everyone should make their own decisions and live with the result of those decisions because nobody else would care. a couple of years ago when "people" were saying bitcoin is dead and price was at $200 some listened to these "people" and lived with that decisions. a year ago when they again listened to these "people" telling them bitcoin is a bubble and didn't buy until the last minute at the peak of the bubble and lose money because of it, again it is their own fault.

it is the same today too. if you buy now and price goes down to zero YOU are losing money. and if you buy today and price goes to $1 million again YOU make profit not the people who told you to do whatever...

Well said, it is wrong to act by relying only on the opinion of others, and not to use your brain sometimes. As you say in time BTC is drop from 1100$ 200$ or even lower many predict that game is over, but some others invest because they believed that the best days are just coming.

I can only tell you that the best days have not yet come, because 20 000$ per 1BTC is nothing compared to the potential that BTC has as currency or as store of value. Let's say today's price of 4000$ can be look from the perspective 2014/2015, buying then in range from 200$ to 600$ may seem like an expensive investment, but even with today price every investor is in profit 20x or 7x, this really does not matter for long term holders.

I'm not saying that for 3-4 years BTC will reach 50 000$ or maybe 100 000$, these are just speculations - but I'm pretty sure the price will be several times higher than it is today.


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: dandannn on December 24, 2018, 11:51:54 AM
Nobody knows, anyone who claims differently is talking rubbish.

You will find plenty of speculated guesses but only pay attention to the people who actually back up what they are saying.

Anyone can pull a random figure out of their ass

Anyone can pull a backing claim out of their ass as well, so always verify.

Good point. Just because some one wrote it on the internet doesn't make it true!

That being said bitcoin will be at $31,652.88 on 2nd Feb 2019


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: cryptocrusher on December 24, 2018, 12:03:57 PM
At 20K it went.

Down back to 17K and people said Bull Market Not Over.



At 3K it went

Back up to 4K


What people say now ? :)



:) :) :)

People say whatever they want. They're under no obligation to be correct or even say what they really believe. Most people here are bullish but it is a bitcoin forum after all so no surprises there.


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: Onuohakk on December 24, 2018, 12:13:34 PM
Well am still waiting to see the drama you meant at your title. Pump and dump are characteristics of the cryptocurrency space and critics criticising is also a trend that we should be used to by now


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: Agarthian on December 24, 2018, 12:14:10 PM
well Ive been watchin btc quite close for last year,

The price action is quite cool actually never taking one side.


now it took more than 6 months to break the 6K low. And it was done by creating fear n panic in the market also due to facts it didnt go above 10K for a long time.


Now god has given everyone a gift btc halfed from 6K and people still want to short it ?

I mean there is no end to this bear Fomo.  

IT was short at 6K bottom 5K . short 5K bottom 4K . short 4K bottom 3K . now they r saying bottom 2500 lol........


Thats like saying long 20 K we are not done yet If you ask me.


Also I think past 2 months of panic n fear has expired and we can see some positive side up.


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: Agarthian on December 24, 2018, 12:15:17 PM
Well am still waiting to see the drama you meant at your title. Pump and dump are characteristics of the cryptocurrency space and critics criticising is also a trend that we should be used to by now

I just find it ironic they say to long at 18K and Short at 3K .


And they fomo it hard.  I think 75% traders thought it was going down to retest bottom again and many still believe it .


Not saying it cant. But I do see a good move upwards first as we are still deep inside bear territory.


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: geyayy on December 24, 2018, 12:21:15 PM
if you are looking to "people" to tell you what to do then i have to warn you that you are in a world of hurt ;)

everyone should make their own decisions and live with the result of those decisions because nobody else would care. a couple of years ago when "people" were saying bitcoin is dead and price was at $200 some listened to these "people" and lived with that decisions. a year ago when they again listened to these "people" telling them bitcoin is a bubble and didn't buy until the last minute at the peak of the bubble and lose money because of it, again it is their own fault.

it is the same today too. if you buy now and price goes down to zero YOU are losing money. and if you buy today and price goes to $1 million again YOU make profit not the people who told you to do whatever...

Well said, it is wrong to act by relying only on the opinion of others, and not to use your brain sometimes. As you say in time BTC is drop from 1100$ 200$ or even lower many predict that game is over, but some others invest because they believed that the best days are just coming.

I can only tell you that the best days have not yet come, because 20 000$ per 1BTC is nothing compared to the potential that BTC has as currency or as store of value. Let's say today's price of 4000$ can be look from the perspective 2014/2015, buying then in range from 200$ to 600$ may seem like an expensive investment, but even with today price every investor is in profit 20x or 7x, this really does not matter for long term holders.

I'm not saying that for 3-4 years BTC will reach 50 000$ or maybe 100 000$, these are just speculations - but I'm pretty sure the price will be several times higher than it is today.

I also agree that we shouldn't rely on the opinion of others but please come up to a decision where in you have those opinions specially from those who are in this field for quite sometime because they can tell precisely due to their experiences though its very hard to find someone with those kind of expertise since the market is new and is not reliable unlike other assets. My only advice is that research, look for the experts, weigh the risk and decide because of facts and not on your emotions specially in this bearish market.


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: dewildance on December 24, 2018, 12:25:47 PM
At 20K it went.

Down back to 17K and people said Bull Market Not Over.



At 3K it went

Back up to 4K


What people say now ? :)



:) :) :)

Ok. We say It's just rised %25 :) It seems funny but it is also true. Free market conditions runs in here. So no complain please. Invers or not it is your choice.


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: topkhai on December 24, 2018, 12:35:05 PM
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Here you are in the wrong position to listen to what people say. They are free to speculate and you have the right to determine. Bull or not, you can do your own analysis


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: Gabteb on December 24, 2018, 12:41:47 PM
Here i see opinins with whichs i agree yep everyone say what they want to be true and some realy belive it so when holder says bull is coming he sometimes belive it and when big fishs want some BTC then many jurnals start talk about "End of Btc" many users start panic and sell they buy so try understand yourself.


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: treatWy on December 24, 2018, 01:27:50 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Bull is not yet on the market.

Anyway, to define bull we should first know  how to define bear market.

No one can say "bull run if no one knows bearish."
Definitely bull run starts from bearish.
Keep calm


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: Agarthian on December 24, 2018, 02:20:08 PM
 you people need to realize

Bitcoin price is only based on psychology


Big boys who own the big media companaies n press can spread propoganda to make it look bad  and say its a bubble and its gnna die.

When in fact they will buy it up at the rock bottom and leave you feeling dumb for selling your fortune.




Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: Rohtox on December 24, 2018, 02:31:07 PM
I still think positively that prices will rise again because in 2019 I think it will be better than 2018 which is really bad. I'm optimistic this pump will continue


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: Roni116 on December 24, 2018, 02:31:30 PM
I think you don't have to listen to other people's words, it's just a prediction and it's not necessarily certain, and it's best to have your own strategy to get crypto results.


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: jossiel on December 24, 2018, 02:53:24 PM
With that logic, you want to hear us say that we're now on a bull market?  How I wish that we are really on that point but can't say if we are actually in it.

Big boys who own the big media companaies n press can spread propoganda to make it look bad  and say its a bubble and its gnna die.

When in fact they will buy it up at the rock bottom and leave you feeling dumb for selling your fortune.
I heard this out from a popular video now on youtube and explained by Teeka Tiwari. And there's truth in it that they are really buying after spreading FUD to the world through press. Example, Jamie Dimon - JPMorgan Chase.


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: Dyan707wk on December 25, 2018, 05:40:31 AM
The value of bitcoin is determined at the level of market demand, and if the demand goes down, it is feasible that the value of bitcoin will decrease.


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: Johnzky on December 25, 2018, 06:48:24 AM
At 20K it went.

Down back to 17K and people said Bull Market Not Over.



At 3K it went

Back up to 4K


What people say now ? :)



:) :) :)

So what about that?who cares if the price drops to even $100?only noob and stupid person like you that is so affected on this movement because a true bitcoiners will be glad if the prices is dumping because this is the right timing for us to purchase and have as many as we can

The value of bitcoin is determined at the level of market demand, and if the demand goes down, it is feasible that the value of bitcoin will decrease.
Never forget the issue of manipulations,meaning that it doesnt need a demand for the price to pump or dump instead this relies to what activities the manipulator might do as well


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: irsada on December 25, 2018, 07:06:24 AM
truth will always be true, and lies will continue to be lies too.
but it will be different, if you feel right not necessarily you are right.


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: Pursuer on December 25, 2018, 07:17:52 AM
I opened this topic excited to see some juicy drama in it but I was disappointed to see OP is just quoting the price and probably showing the fact that he didn't have much of an idea about what he should do in bitcoin market!

besides as it was mentioned perfectly earlier you shouldn't even be asking what "people" think. for all you know they are misleading you so that they can make more profit themselves. it certainly is a clear case of these days as everyone is trying to convince others that the drop is not over which is pretty strange if you ask me considering we are in an 80% drop and below a major buy support!!!


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: Juggy777 on December 25, 2018, 07:27:23 AM
At 20K it went.

Down back to 17K and people said Bull Market Not Over.



At 3K it went

Back up to 4K


What people say now ? :)



:) :) :)

Hey the circumstances were different when it touched 20k, and prices went down due to heavy selling which is normally expected, what one didn't anticipate prices would crash suddenly so much. Another reason of bitcoins crashing was the influx of non stop fud, and false misleading headlines in the media. In the present day bitcoins prices are rallying upwards cause people are buying it, however no one has termed it as a rally yet it's need to sustain itself before we can term it as a rally.


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: Forever Young on December 25, 2018, 07:36:44 AM
What we have to do now is not easy to believe in other people's words or other people's predictions about the price of Bitcoin. Yeah give your own decision and don't take part in the drama.
I'm sure Bitcoin can reach 20K, so I will buy Bitcoin with my own trust if bitcoin will reach 20k.  8)


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 25, 2018, 10:34:53 AM
I think you don't have to listen to other people's words, it's just a prediction and it's not necessarily certain, and it's best to have your own strategy to get crypto results.

It always better to make our prediction and don't depends on the other prediction because we don't know if they are very good at analyzing the bitcoin price or not. The other people's prediction can be good information for us if we know how to do a research about the bitcoin market. I am sure that if we can have more information about where bitcoin price wants to go, we can predict where it goes and we can buy at a low price without blaming other people because of their prediction was wrong.


Title: Re: Let me tell you some Drama.
Post by: gamer4156 on December 25, 2018, 11:16:09 AM
Now people say that bearish market is over. They are consoling themselves by giving false hopes. How anyone can know that market is going up or down. It is just the trend of buying and selling that changes the price of BTC. Let me give you an example, one of my friend introduced me to a facebook group, how he explains me the reality of group. He told me that there is a group on facebook about crypto signals, but there is a joining fee of that group, every member have to pay 500$ for that. I joined that group and earned some money by taking their advice. When a went deep into this matter, I came to know that they are crypto investors itself, they use to put money taken by the new members and earn from both sides.