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Title: Autoban
Post by: omoraki on December 29, 2018, 10:53:27 PM
Hello, my account has been recently autobanned. Can someone explain how can that happen.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: mikeywith on December 29, 2018, 11:08:35 PM
 
sorry my magic ball couldn't find your banned account , so i think you need to post the username/profile link to that account.

also i am willing to bet the cat that it's plagiarism related.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: omoraki on December 29, 2018, 11:11:45 PM

sorry my magic ball couldn't find your banned account , so i think you need to post the username/profile link to that account.

also i am willing to bet the cat that it's plagiarism related.

I am asking about the reason for an account to get autobanned, that's my question.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: RussaX on December 29, 2018, 11:14:21 PM
I am asking about the reason for an account to get autobanned, that's my question.

There could be many things that lead to autoban. usually it is spam/bot related.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on December 29, 2018, 11:15:59 PM
I am asking about the reason for an account to get autobanned, that's my question.
So your plan is to figure out what you did wrong so that you won't make the same mistake again when you create a new account and thus evade the ban (which is against the rules). 

Why don't you answer the question of what account we're talking about here?


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: omoraki on December 29, 2018, 11:21:28 PM
I am asking about the reason for an account to get autobanned, that's my question.
So your plan is to figure out what you did wrong so that you won't make the same mistake again when you create a new account and thus evade the ban (which is against the rules). 

Why don't you answer the question of what account we're talking about here?

well that's a good plan but I am not willing to use it because I would rather stick to the rules and again i am asking about the reason for an account to be autobanned that's why i didn't add my profile  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1163877)


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on December 29, 2018, 11:25:51 PM
well that's a good plan but I am not willing to use it because I would rather stick to the rules and again i am asking about the reason for an account to be autobanned that's why i didn't add my profile  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1163877)
I don't understand.  Did you or did you not have an account that was autobanned?

Edit: Oh wait, I had to read the OP again:
Hello, my account has been recently autobanned. Can someone explain how can that happen.
So you had an alt account that got banned, you have the omoraki account, and you also have the riosakamoto account.  Is that correct?  Do you actually know what the rules are here?

Edit:
His profile is https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=riosakamoto in case you didn't see hyperlink.
No, I caught it.  I just would like OP to clarify how many accounts are involved here.

Edit again:  OK, just checked bpip and the riosakamoto account was autobanned.  Got it now.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: RussaX on December 29, 2018, 11:27:53 PM
well that's a good plan but I am not willing to use it because I would rather stick to the rules and again i am asking about the reason for an account to be autobanned that's why i didn't add my profile  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1163877)
I don't understand.  Did you or did you not have an account that was autobanned?

His profile is https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=riosakamoto in case you didn't see hyperlink.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: suchmoon on December 30, 2018, 12:53:59 AM
I am asking about the reason for an account to get autobanned, that's my question.

Plagiarism is the most common reason. "Autoban" doesn't mean it was banned "automatically" if that's what's confusing for you. You've been banned for violating forum rules.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: omoraki on December 30, 2018, 01:11:11 AM
Plagiarism is the most common reason. "Autoban" doesn't mean it was banned "automatically" if that's what's confusing for you. You've been banned for violating forum rules.

XD thank you for the info. Yeah it's the most common reason but I don't remember myself doing so that's why I am asking for the reason behind the ban.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: mikeywith on December 30, 2018, 01:18:22 AM
His profile is https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=riosakamoto in case you didn't see hyperlink.

looked at a few of his posts, he is not a shit-poster in fact the quality of his posts is not bad at all. and he didn't seem like a copy-paste person, i am interested in knowing the ban reason  ;D.



Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: bones261 on December 30, 2018, 01:23:11 AM
His profile is https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=riosakamoto in case you didn't see hyperlink.

looked at a few of his posts, he is not a shit-poster in fact the quality of his posts is not bad at all. and he didn't seem like a copy-paste person, i am interested in knowing the ban reason  ;D.



Well, if you are curious, you can start going through his posts and goggling them to verify none are copy/paste. I poked around a little. However, I'm not very proficient at it. I suspect other people have better tools to find these things. I already checked the OPs posted eth address and can't find any other accounts linked that way, so it wasn't for ban evasion.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: suchmoon on December 30, 2018, 01:36:28 AM
Well, if you are curious, you can start going through his posts and goggling them to verify none are copy/paste. I poked around a little. However, I'm not very proficient at it. I suspect other people have better tools to find these things. I already checked the OPs posted eth address and can't find any other accounts linked that way, so it wasn't for ban evasion.

If you start from the first post it won't take long:

I just sent a pm and downloaded the wallet.
Hope I get some coins, looks like a great project!
I will do what I can to help.
THANKS!

I just sent a pm and downloaded the wallet.
Hope I get some coins, looks like a great project!
I will do what I can to help.
Thanks!



looked at a few of his posts, he is not a shit-poster in fact the quality of his posts is not bad at all. and he didn't seem like a copy-paste person, i am interested in knowing the ban reason  ;D.

Lots of one-liners and/or generic posts in megathreads... quite shit really.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: bones261 on December 30, 2018, 01:44:08 AM
Well, if you are curious, you can start going through his posts and goggling them to verify none are copy/paste. I poked around a little. However, I'm not very proficient at it. I suspect other people have better tools to find these things. I already checked the OPs posted eth address and can't find any other accounts linked that way, so it wasn't for ban evasion.

If you start from the first post it won't take long:

I just sent a pm and downloaded the wallet.
Hope I get some coins, looks like a great project!
I will do what I can to help.
THANKS!

You must use a better tool than Google. When I Google "I just sent a pm and downloaded the wallet." I just get an entry on the beloved bitcointalk.to site.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: omoraki on December 30, 2018, 01:45:23 AM
If you start from the first post it won't take long:

I just sent a pm and downloaded the wallet.
Hope I get some coins, looks like a great project!
I will do what I can to help.
THANKS!

I just sent a pm and downloaded the wallet.
Hope I get some coins, looks like a great project!
I will do what I can to help.
Thanks!
Lots of one-liners and/or generic posts in megathreads... quite shit really.

I feel ashamed when I look at my first post but who don't we all started newbie, also, we can make a constructive one lined reply.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: suchmoon on December 30, 2018, 01:51:56 AM
You must use a better tool than Google. When I Google "I just sent a pm and downloaded the wallet." I just get an entry on the beloved bitcointalk.to site.
Sorry, I was cheating :). I reported this one.



I feel ashamed when I look at my first post but who don't we all started newbie
I'm willing to bet my firstborn that not all started with copypasta.

we can make a constructive one lined reply.
Not on page 47 of a spam megathread. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1137367.msg22614645#msg22614645)


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: omoraki on December 30, 2018, 01:57:49 AM
I feel ashamed when I look at my first post but who don't we all started newbie
I'm willing to bet my firstborn that not all started with copypasta.

we can make a constructive one lined reply.
Not on page 47 of a spam megathread. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1137367.msg22614645#msg22614645)

Indeed you're totally right but what's your point, the posts you're mentioning are old and it's obvious I was banned for something else.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: bones261 on December 30, 2018, 02:02:19 AM

Indeed you're totally right but what's your point, the post you're mentioning are old and it's obvious I was banned for something else.

Many accounts have been banned for copy/paste going a year or more back. The policy against copy/paste is pretty stringent on this forum. Also, it appears that you are a bounty hunter; so, your posting is financially motivated. (Nothing wrong with that. However, copy/paste is shitty way to do your "task." You really think people are stopping and pausing enough to read your one line copy/paste post long enough to notice the signature?)Your chance of appealing this and getting it overturned are less than you being able to walk through the entire Earth, intact, due to quantum tunneling.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: r1s2g3 on December 30, 2018, 02:03:56 AM

I just sent a pm and downloaded the wallet.
Hope I get some coins, looks like a great project!
I will do what I can to help.
Thanks!


And I never suspected that these 4 lines are copy pasted. Now it look like the most stupid way to get banned.
My Google search do not yield any results (original + copy pasted) and I am again suspecting that suchmoon might reported the OP.
Read above that suchmoon reported that OP.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: suchmoon on December 30, 2018, 02:05:33 AM
Indeed you're totally right but what's your point, the posts you're mentioning are old and it's obvious I was banned for something else.

It doesn't matter. Even if it was something else - the quoted copypasta means that you're very unlikely to get unbanned.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: omoraki on December 30, 2018, 02:11:10 AM

Many accounts have been banned for copy/paste going a year or more back. The policy against copy/paste is pretty stringent on this forum. Also, since it appears that you are a bounty hunter; so, your posting is financially motivated. Your chance of appealing this and getting it overturned are less than you being able to walk through the entire Earth, intact, due to quantum tunneling.

I only participated in 2 signature campaign Rebellious(6 months-voluntary) and Ubcoin(paid 2 months) sorry for bothering with details but I wanted to say that I am not here for money only.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: bones261 on December 30, 2018, 02:16:13 AM

Many accounts have been banned for copy/paste going a year or more back. The policy against copy/paste is pretty stringent on this forum. Also, since it appears that you are a bounty hunter; so, your posting is financially motivated. Your chance of appealing this and getting it overturned are less than you being able to walk through the entire Earth, intact, due to quantum tunneling.

I only participated in 2 signature campaign Rebellious(6 months-voluntary) and Ubcoin(paid 2 months) sorry for bothering with details but I wanted to say that I am not here for money only.

     Well, then follow the instructions on your ban message and attempt to appeal it. Only the administrative/moderation team can overturn your appeal. However, I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for a favorable response. In fact, I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for any response at all.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: omoraki on December 30, 2018, 02:19:25 AM
It doesn't matter. Even if it was something else - the quoted copypasta means that you're very unlikely to get unbanned.

I think it's unfair to instaban without warning or a restricted ban for example.

     Well, then follow the instructions on your ban message and attempt to appeal it. Only the administrative/moderation team can overturn your appeal. However, I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for a favorable response. In fact, I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for any response at all.

Already done, I waited 2 weeks no response I remember reading that they no longer answer ban appeal email so I decided to open this thread.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: Vod on December 30, 2018, 02:28:33 AM
Not on page 47 of a spam megathread. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1137367.msg22614645#msg22614645)

Hmmm, he deleted that post already.   :-\


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: bones261 on December 30, 2018, 02:32:09 AM

I think it's unfair to instaban without warning or a restricted ban for example.

     There is a warning. It's called the rules which are posted as a sticky here is Meta. Going forward, I recommend that you actually take the time to read the rules of any website that you use. Also, copying someone else's work is never OK without proper citation. If you tried to do this at school, you are likely to get a failing grade and potentially expelled. If you did this as part of your job, you are likely to get fired or sued. I know that copy/pasting someone's shitpost seems like a minor infraction. However, Bitcointalk has to draw line somewhere. Even with this policy, many of the boards here are inundated with shit posting. If we just let people get away with copy/paste, the forum would be practically unreadable.

Already done, I waited 2 weeks no response I remember reading that they no longer answer ban appeal email so I decided to open this thread.
Well, now you have a response. I am sorry that you don't like the answers. Maybe a champion for your cause will show up shortly. However, I doubt it.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: suchmoon on December 30, 2018, 02:32:45 AM
Not on page 47 of a spam megathread. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1137367.msg22614645#msg22614645)

Hmmm, he deleted that post already.   :-\

No, it's still there. Are you sure you don't have Shitcoin Central (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=67.0) on ignore or something?  ;D


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: omoraki on December 30, 2018, 02:38:34 AM
    There is a warning. It's called the rules which are posted as a sticky here is Meta. Going forward, I recommend that you actually take the time to read the rules of any website that you use. Also, copying someone else's work is never OK without proper citation. If you tried to do this at school, you are likely to get a failing grade and potentially expelled. If you did this as part of your job, you are likely to get fired or sued. I know that copy/pasting someone's shitpost seems like a minor infraction. However, Bitcointalk has to draw line somewhere. Even with this policy, many of the boards here are inundated with shit posting. If we just let people get away with copy/paste, the forum would be practically unreadable.

Already done, I waited 2 weeks no response I remember reading that they no longer answer ban appeal email so I decided to open this thread.
Well, now you have a response. I am sorry that you don't like the answers. Maybe a champion for your cause will show up shortly. However, I doubt it.


Good advice, I always do. I agree with you but I  believe in second chance even if I am not allowed anymore in signature campaign.

Hmmm, he deleted that post already.   :-\

Probably i don't have the right to do so.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: bones261 on December 30, 2018, 02:56:30 AM

Good advice, I always do. I agree with you but I  believe in second chance even if I am not allowed anymore in signature campaign.


   There is some discussion of that in another thread. However, it is not implemented at this time. For now, you will just have to live with the status quo. Also, you will be unable to chime in with your opinion on that thread since that would be considered ban evasion and this current account may get banned. Also, if the proposal to just ban signature ever goes through, I'm not certain it will be retroactive.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: omoraki on December 30, 2018, 03:02:22 AM

Good advice, I always do. I agree with you but I  believe in second chance even if I am not allowed anymore in signature campaign.


   There is some discussion of that in another thread. However, it is not implemented at this time. For now, you will just have to live with the status quo. Also, you will be unable to chime in with your opinion on that thread since that would be considered ban evasion and this current account may get banned. Also, if the proposal to just ban signature ever goes through, I'm not certain it will be retroactive.

Thank you for the info and yes i am not willing to post in any other thread.


Title: Re: Autoban
Post by: MainIbem on December 31, 2018, 07:31:42 AM
Plagiarism is the most common reason. "Autoban" doesn't mean it was banned "automatically" if that's what's confusing for you. You've been banned for violating forum rules.

XD thank you for the info. Yeah it's the most common reason but I don't remember myself doing so that's why I am asking for the reason behind the ban.
So go and read the forum rules very well now that you know.