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Title: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: TeMHuK on January 04, 2019, 04:17:30 PM
Hi. Yesterday I got red trust from legendary status person which I don't know and never spoken with him.

suchmoon   2019-01-03   0.00000000   Reference   Shilling for Minex.


Yes, sometimes I'm texting in Minexcoin group, but that is 100% no reason for red trust. I never did advertising somewhere else in other groups. That person have huge amount of negative trust and looks like he earn money with making red trust for someone else.

I got red trust just for using Bitcointalk forum without breaking any rules of it.

Admins, if any left on forum. Please make a prosecution of this.


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: S_Therapist on January 04, 2019, 04:23:49 PM
Trust system is not moderated, for your info. You have to continue with the feedback. I would encourage you to simply remove suchmoon from your trust list a.k.a using custom trust list. If you can't do so, here you go- [Explained] How DT system works (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5072734.msg48081277#msg48081277)
By the way, you should move the thread to reputation since it doesn't fit in meta.

That person have huge amount of negative trust.
Because he is DT member, lol.


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: suchmoon on January 04, 2019, 04:27:45 PM
Hi. Yesterday I got red trust from legendary status person which I don't know and never spoken with him.

You replied to me in the Minex thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5090539.msg49015370#msg49015370

I asked you to explain the business card thing.

Yes, sometimes I'm texting in Minexcoin group, but that is 100% no reason for red trust.

No, you're not merely "sometimes texting". You're shilling hard for Minex, which I suspect is a scam. Therefore red trust. You can't have it both ways. If you're pretending to know the ins and outs of their business and attacking people asking questions - you'll be labeled as a scammer too.

I never did advertising somewhere else in other groups. That person have huge amount of negative trust and looks like he earn money with making red trust for someone else.

I got red trust just for using Bitcointalk forum without breaking any rules of it.

Red trust has nothing to do with rules.


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: TeMHuK on January 04, 2019, 04:41:29 PM
Hi. Yesterday I got red trust from legendary status person which I don't know and never spoken with him.

You replied to me in the Minex thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5090539.msg49015370#msg49015370

I asked you to explain the business card thing.

Yes, sometimes I'm texting in Minexcoin group, but that is 100% no reason for red trust.

No, you're not merely "sometimes texting". You're shilling hard for Minex, which I suspect is a scam. Therefore red trust. You can't have it both ways. If you're pretending to know the ins and outs of their business and attacking people asking questions - you'll be labeled as a scammer too.

I never did advertising somewhere else in other groups. That person have huge amount of negative trust and looks like he earn money with making red trust for someone else.

I got red trust just for using Bitcointalk forum without breaking any rules of it.

Red trust has nothing to do with rules.

So, I didn't gave you an answer with specific inside information because I'm not in Minexcoin team and I can't know that info. And you gave me red trust for that.

 Supporting and shilling it's 2 different things. I'm with that coin since ICO and I did a lot of support there.

Your trust have hundreds of negative reviews because of negative trust sharing without any reason. I will do a report to moderators to make a check of your account, looks like you got good way to earn money on Bitcointalk.  


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: Findingnemo on January 04, 2019, 04:48:10 PM
I will do a report to moderators to make a check of your account, looks like you got good way to earn money on Bitcointalk.  
Moderators can't do anything with the trust score since it is not moderated.He only can remove his feedback so you need to prove that you are not a part of them but its impossible to do tho.



Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: TeMHuK on January 04, 2019, 04:56:31 PM
And very good reference was left. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5090539.msg49018430#msg49018430

Looks like I got red trust because I was happy because some trolls lost access to Minexcoin topic.


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: suchmoon on January 04, 2019, 04:57:50 PM
So, I didn't gave you an answer with specific inside information because I'm not in Minexcoin team and I can't know that info. And you gave me red trust for that.

You got red trust for a scam. And yes, avoiding to answer specific questions is part of the reason too but there is much more to it.

Supporting and shilling it's 2 different things. I'm with that coin since ICO and I did a lot of support there.

Well, if that makes it better for you - think of it as getting red trust for supporting a scam.

Your trust have hundreds of negative reviews because of negative trust sharing without any reason. I will do a report to moderators to make a check of your account, looks like you got good way to earn money on Bitcointalk.  

This is a great example of how you shill support Minex. You're making unsubstantiated accusations against anyone who dares to criticize it.


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: TeMHuK on January 04, 2019, 05:02:18 PM
So, I didn't gave you an answer with specific inside information because I'm not in Minexcoin team and I can't know that info. And you gave me red trust for that.

You got red trust for a scam. And yes, avoiding to answer specific questions is part of the reason too but there is much more to it.

Supporting and shilling it's 2 different things. I'm with that coin since ICO and I did a lot of support there.

Well, if that makes it better for you - think of it as getting red trust for supporting a scam.

Your trust have hundreds of negative reviews because of negative trust sharing without any reason. I will do a report to moderators to make a check of your account, looks like you got good way to earn money on Bitcointalk.  

This is a great example of how you shill support Minex. You're making unsubstantiated accusations against anyone who dares to criticize it.
Minexcoin already sent cards for customers like it was promised. Some people already received their cards, some got tracking numbers and waiting for delivery. If someone told you it's a scam he is an idiot. Minexcoin is 100% legit company. You can check it even by yourself by visiting their office in Kiev, Ukraine.


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: vlom on January 04, 2019, 05:02:54 PM
@TeMHuK: stop  :'(

you are defending Minexcoin and you have a signature of a project that is closely connected with Minexcoin.

I am almost sure that suchmoon will remove the trustrating after that it is proven that Minexcoin is not scammy. I will remove my feedback and update my topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331) as soon as I see that everything is legit.


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: yurez83 on January 04, 2019, 05:03:45 PM
Hi. Yesterday I got red trust from legendary status person which I don't know and never spoken with him.

suchmoon   2019-01-03   0.00000000   Reference   Shilling for Minex.


Yes, sometimes I'm texting in Minexcoin group, but that is 100% no reason for red trust. I never did advertising somewhere else in other groups. That person have huge amount of negative trust and looks like he earn money with making red trust for someone else.

I got red trust just for using Bitcointalk forum without breaking any rules of it.

Admins, if any left on forum. Please make a prosecution of this.

This shameless user suchmoon also poked me just for apparently writing an answer to him that he didn’t like. Almost from the very beginning of the project (from October 2017), I invested money in mnx coins, big money, and some kind of besperelschik suchmoon, without understanding, calls the project fraud and me a fraud. I looked at the reviews that he had already been given, that he paints everyone who is not pleasing to him. I was not even surprised that he painted me - I did the same thing, since he is a liar.

I am surprised that suchmoon user got such a reputation on the forum, if he isn’t worthy of even 1 reputation point, judging by his action ...


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: TeMHuK on January 04, 2019, 05:06:53 PM
@TeMHuK: stop  :'(

you are defending Minexcoin and you have a signature of a project that is closely connected with Minexcoin.

I am almost sure that suchmoon will remove the trustrating after that it is proven that Minexcoin is not scammy. I will remove my feedback and update my topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331) as soon as I see that everything is legit.
Repablia is not connected to Minexcoin at all. Repablia moving to the South Korea now and will do blockchain which must be better than ETH blockchain.


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: vlom on January 04, 2019, 05:07:15 PM
@yurez83: i left you negative feedback too. and before suchmoon did.

but you did not care. because my feedback does not change the colour next to your trust ranking.

and now? why is the feedback of suchmoon more important than my feedback? you dont complain about my feedback.


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: vlom on January 04, 2019, 05:10:28 PM
@TeMHuK: stop  :'(

you are defending Minexcoin and you have a signature of a project that is closely connected with Minexcoin.

I am almost sure that suchmoon will remove the trustrating after that it is proven that Minexcoin is not scammy. I will remove my feedback and update my topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331) as soon as I see that everything is legit.
Repablia is not connected to Minexcoin at all. Repablia moving to the South Korea now and will do blockchain which must be better than ETH blockchain.


this is not true

https://i.postimg.cc/wxFK50Fh/Screenshot-2019-01-04-at-18-09-35.png


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: suchmoon on January 04, 2019, 05:12:01 PM
Minexcoin already sent cards for customers like it was promised. Some people already received their cards, some got tracking numbers and waiting for delivery. If someone told you it's a scam he is an idiot. Minexcoin is 100% legit company. You can check it even by yourself by visiting their office in Kiev, Ukraine.

LOL yeah I'm booking a flight to Kiev right now... or should I go to Vilnius to visit UAB WHATSITSNAME instead? I'm confused. Who's issuing the cards?

This shameless user suchmoon also poked me just for apparently writing an answer to him that he didn’t like. Almost from the very beginning of the project (from October 2017), I invested money in mnx coins, big money, and some kind of besperelschik suchmoon, without understanding, calls the project fraud and me a fraud. I looked at the reviews that he had already been given, that he paints everyone who is not pleasing to him. I was not even surprised that he painted me - I did the same thing, since he is a liar.

I am surprised that suchmoon user got such a reputation on the forum, if he isn’t worthy of even 1 reputation point, judging by his action ...

Your puppet show doesn't impress me.


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: TeMHuK on January 04, 2019, 05:13:13 PM
So, I didn't gave you an answer with specific inside information because I'm not in Minexcoin team and I can't know that info. And you gave me red trust for that.

You got red trust for a scam. And yes, avoiding to answer specific questions is part of the reason too but there is much more to it.

Supporting and shilling it's 2 different things. I'm with that coin since ICO and I did a lot of support there.

Well, if that makes it better for you - think of it as getting red trust for supporting a scam.

Your trust have hundreds of negative reviews because of negative trust sharing without any reason. I will do a report to moderators to make a check of your account, looks like you got good way to earn money on Bitcointalk.  

This is a great example of how you shill support Minex. You're making unsubstantiated accusations against anyone who dares to criticize it.
If You still dont trust me here is one of tracking numbers provided by someone in community RS010368934UA

But here is pictures from other people which got tracking code

https://i.imgur.com/HabARTB.png


https://i.imgur.com/EsYTza8.png


Both at same time

https://i.imgur.com/BYmdE7f.png






And you still thinking it's a scam?


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: suchmoon on January 04, 2019, 05:16:57 PM
And you still thinking it's a scam?

Yes. None of you shills dare to address the issue of this being a likely illegal use of a business debit card issued by some shady venture in a different country. That's ok though. I'm not in a hurry. Take your time.


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: TeMHuK on January 04, 2019, 05:20:46 PM
And you still thinking it's a scam?

Yes. None of you shills dare to address the issue of this being a likely illegal use of a business debit card issued by some shady venture in a different country. That's ok though. I'm not in a hurry. Take your time.
Here is a report from user from Bitcointalk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5090539.60

If cards could be illegal nobody will gave them to share. Minexcoin have good lawyers and if that could be illegal they will never did that.  Simply they did that scheme first and now some "smart" people are is shock.


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: TeMHuK on January 04, 2019, 05:23:47 PM
And you still thinking it's a scam?

Yes. None of you shills dare to address the issue of this being a likely illegal use of a business debit card issued by some shady venture in a different country. That's ok though. I'm not in a hurry. Take your time.
When they will activate their cards and people will start to use them I'm expecting for red trust removal from you and replacing it by green trust. Deal?


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: yurez83 on January 04, 2019, 05:26:41 PM
@yurez83: i left you negative feedback too. and before suchmoon did.

but you did not care. because my feedback does not change the colour next to your trust ranking.

and now? why is the feedback of suchmoon more important than my feedback? you dont complain about my feedback.

Yes, I do not care about your feedback. You're just a paid troll and your feedback is clear to me and means nothing. I even got used to you and do not pay attention.

 But a review of the type of "authoritative" user suchmoon, who just called me a shilling, because he did not like my answer about another red review - it hurt me. He painted the usual support red for not having sent the cards, although the cards are being sent and many people have already received them. Who is he then? suchmoon - Liar.


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: vlom on January 04, 2019, 05:46:19 PM
@yurez83: i left you negative feedback too. and before suchmoon did.

but you did not care. because my feedback does not change the colour next to your trust ranking.

and now? why is the feedback of suchmoon more important than my feedback? you dont complain about my feedback.

Yes, I do not care about your feedback. You're just a paid troll and your feedback is clear to me and means nothing. I even got used to you and do not pay attention.

 But a review of the type of "authoritative" user suchmoon, who just called me a shilling, because he did not like my answer about another red review - it hurt me. He painted the usual support red for not having sent the cards, although the cards are being sent and many people have already received them. Who is he then? suchmoon - Liar.

if you would care about one of the projects then you would care about my feedback. otherwise you just want to look trustworthy in the view of default trust. and thats an other reason why nobody should trust you. got it?

You're just a paid troll and your feedback is clear to me and means nothing.


who is paying me?


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: yurez83 on January 04, 2019, 06:12:07 PM
@yurez83: i left you negative feedback too. and before suchmoon did.

but you did not care. because my feedback does not change the colour next to your trust ranking.

and now? why is the feedback of suchmoon more important than my feedback? you dont complain about my feedback.

Yes, I do not care about your feedback. You're just a paid troll and your feedback is clear to me and means nothing. I even got used to you and do not pay attention.

 But a review of the type of "authoritative" user suchmoon, who just called me a shilling, because he did not like my answer about another red review - it hurt me. He painted the usual support red for not having sent the cards, although the cards are being sent and many people have already received them. Who is he then? suchmoon - Liar.

if you would care about one of the projects then you would care about my feedback. otherwise you just want to look trustworthy in the view of default trust. and thats an other reason why nobody should trust you. got it?
Why would I care about your feedback? After you painted me? Lol. You wrote the same lies and accusations without evidence, just like your other "friends." You all sent me a review. And the first. I also answered - this is logical.

Actually, I have no desire to discuss this with you.


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: suchmoon on January 04, 2019, 07:05:00 PM
And you still thinking it's a scam?

Yes. None of you shills dare to address the issue of this being a likely illegal use of a business debit card issued by some shady venture in a different country. That's ok though. I'm not in a hurry. Take your time.
When they will activate their cards and people will start to use them I'm expecting for red trust removal from you and replacing it by green trust. Deal?

Yeah I'm gonna pass on this awesome deal. The card is just one of many lies. Already in this thread you've been caught lying about Republia so it's safe to say that you're untrustworthy for many reasons.


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: TeMHuK on January 04, 2019, 07:54:05 PM
And you still thinking it's a scam?

Yes. None of you shills dare to address the issue of this being a likely illegal use of a business debit card issued by some shady venture in a different country. That's ok though. I'm not in a hurry. Take your time.
When they will activate their cards and people will start to use them I'm expecting for red trust removal from you and replacing it by green trust. Deal?

Yeah I'm gonna pass on this awesome deal. The card is just one of many lies. Already in this thread you've been caught lying about Republia so it's safe to say that you're untrustworthy for many reasons.
But you did't declined that you don't taking money for red trust sharing. That mean you are scamer. And I added my red trust comment to many dozens of negative trust comments which is in your trust. Sold accounts like yours should be banned from this forum.


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: vlom on January 04, 2019, 07:57:13 PM
And you still thinking it's a scam?

Yes. None of you shills dare to address the issue of this being a likely illegal use of a business debit card issued by some shady venture in a different country. That's ok though. I'm not in a hurry. Take your time.
When they will activate their cards and people will start to use them I'm expecting for red trust removal from you and replacing it by green trust. Deal?

Yeah I'm gonna pass on this awesome deal. The card is just one of many lies. Already in this thread you've been caught lying about Republia so it's safe to say that you're untrustworthy for many reasons.
But you did't declined that you don't taking money for red trust sharing. That mean you are scamer. And I added my red trust comment to many dozens of negative trust comments which is in your trust. Sold accounts like yours should be banned from this forum.


You're just a paid troll and your feedback is clear to me and means nothing.


the money i got for trolling was paid to suchmoon.
thanks to you sherlock the hole world now knows this.


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: yurez83 on January 04, 2019, 08:11:34 PM
And you still thinking it's a scam?

Yes. None of you shills dare to address the issue of this being a likely illegal use of a business debit card issued by some shady venture in a different country. That's ok though. I'm not in a hurry. Take your time.
When they will activate their cards and people will start to use them I'm expecting for red trust removal from you and replacing it by green trust. Deal?

Yeah I'm gonna pass on this awesome deal. The card is just one of many lies. Already in this thread you've been caught lying about Republia so it's safe to say that you're untrustworthy for many reasons.
But you did't declined that you don't taking money for red trust sharing. That mean you are scamer. And I added my red trust comment to many dozens of negative trust comments which is in your trust. Sold accounts like yours should be banned from this forum.


You're just a paid troll and your feedback is clear to me and means nothing.


the money i got for trolling was paid to suchmoon.

Hell. You even admit that you were paid money ..  :D  :D  👍  Oh my god. Then I have nothing to explain here ..


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: vlom on January 04, 2019, 08:13:30 PM
 


the money i got for trolling was paid to suchmoon.

Hell. You even admit that you were paid money ..  :D  :D  👍  Oh my god. Then I have nothing to explain here ..

and you are to stupid for irony.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/7e12cd4fccb34c996628b3d6ddbd8025/tenor.gif?itemid=12993410


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 04, 2019, 08:15:43 PM
Your trust have hundreds of negative reviews because of negative trust sharing without any reason. I will do a report to moderators to make a check of your account, looks like you got good way to earn money on Bitcointalk.  
Your threats are meaningless here.  Obviously you don't understand a lot about the forum here, else you wouldn't be spouting all of this nonsense.  Suchmoon has given out a lot of negs (but I think I'm still the alpha negger), and I can pretty much guarantee that none were given without a reason.  Some DT members might disagree with each other about certain things, but any DT member who consistently makes bad calls when leaving negs get booted off DT.

All the negs you see on suchmoon's trust page are likely retaliatory feedback, same as mine.  Suchmoon hasn't scammed anyone here, nor have I, but that doesn't stop anyone from claiming what they want to.  The key is whether there's a valid reference link with the feedback.  

I don't know a damn thing about Minex, but if suchmoon suspects it's a scam and that you're shilling for it, he/she's got every right to neg you.  Get over it, because as you've been told, trust is not moderated, i.e., complaining to staff about your situation isn't going to do a damn bit of good.  This is how we keep the forum clean.

But you did't declined that you don't taking money for red trust sharing.
Nobody makes money by giving other members negative trust.  You might not understand this, but people are motivated to do things by reasons other than money.  How do suppose such a thing works, anyway?  You think people somehow earn money by leaving negs?


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: suchmoon on January 04, 2019, 08:24:26 PM
But you did't declined that you don't taking money for red trust sharing. That mean you are scamer. And I added my red trust comment to many dozens of negative trust comments which is in your trust. Sold accounts like yours should be banned from this forum.

Well, "you did't declined" that you molest young boys, so there's that.

I love how y'all scammers project your depravity onto others. If you are пpoдaжнaя шлюxa that doesn't mean everyone else is too.


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: marlboroza on January 04, 2019, 09:16:53 PM
Always problem with ICO's.
This https://twitter.com/CSOB_CZ/status/1049952364222967808 is more than enough proof for me. Lying to investors and then lying again. I wouldn't trust them with my money, that's for sure.
Going trough several pages of locked Minex thread I can say there is nothing wrong with feedback. OP is shilling for them.



Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: mikeywith on January 06, 2019, 09:15:25 AM
looks like he earn money with making red trust for someone else.

I don't know suchmoon personally but judging from his/her posts and other feedbacks i am pretty sure this is a false accusation, i do not think he/she gets money to tag people,but rather trying to tag scammers to protect the forum members, i am not saying her feedback on you is 100% proper as i have no idea what minex is ,so it could be legit and the feedback should be removed, also there is a good chance that it's a scam project that you shilling and you deserve the tag, either ways I think you should have tried to solve this issue with suchmoon in a proper manner by sending him/her a PM or at least asking for an explanation without having to accuse anyone for getting paid for tagging people, because after this i am willing to bet the cat that this red tag is not going to be to removed. 


Title: Re: Red trust without any reason/ Making money with red trust sale
Post by: cryptohunter on January 06, 2019, 01:41:21 PM
So, I didn't gave you an answer with specific inside information because I'm not in Minexcoin team and I can't know that info. And you gave me red trust for that.

You got red trust for a scam. And yes, avoiding to answer specific questions is part of the reason too but there is much more to it.

Supporting and shilling it's 2 different things. I'm with that coin since ICO and I did a lot of support there.

Well, if that makes it better for you - think of it as getting red trust for supporting a scam.

Your trust have hundreds of negative reviews because of negative trust sharing without any reason. I will do a report to moderators to make a check of your account, looks like you got good way to earn money on Bitcointalk.  

This is a great example of how you shill support Minex. You're making unsubstantiated accusations against anyone who dares to criticize it.

I'm very pleased to hear that you believe supporting or enabling a scam makes you culpable as a scammer too.

I don't support minex - or know if that one is a scam or not i have not looked into that one.... however if its a proven scam like some projects here once it is established without doubt then all supporters are scam enablers and supporters. i have said this for a long time.

If not a proven scam or does not have a bunch of corroborating evidence putting it in a very dubious light then I guess the red trust is a bit of an over reach. I guess all comes down to that.

End of the day this system is not moderated so impossible to force a removal unless you are prepared to go insane about it everywhere and have huge weight of argument on your side and can muster support. NOt sure that will be easy with something that does look to have made false statements when compared to that banks own message. (just from briefly looking at it)

If you can prove minex is not a scam then you can get the red trust removed or put pressure for it to be removed.

Really to tag a scam though the onus should be on the tagger to provide evidence that demonstrates beyond reasonable doubt that it is a scam.

Innocent until proven guilty.