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Title: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: Pmalek on January 06, 2019, 07:17:07 PM
A question for those betting on sports and using streaming services as a reference, which are the fastest services available in terms of delay from the live event? For in-match betting a fast streaming provider is a +. bet365 streams were pretty fast in the past when I compared the delay with cable and satellite but for some reason they are much slower since the start of the 2018/2019 season.
Can someone who knows tell me what you guys are using? Paid, Free...whatever.


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: vit05 on January 06, 2019, 08:36:27 PM
Streaming will always have a great delay time. Cable will always be faster. The best for betting are livescores websites, where the delay is minimal, and digital radios.

But if you want to have image, the subreddits for streaming usually have good links.
/r/nbastreams
/r/nflstreams
/r/NHLStreams
/r/soccerstreams
/r/rugbystreams

I also like rojadirecta (http://www.rojadirecta.me/en?0)


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: ralle14 on January 07, 2019, 01:00:52 AM
Someone from nitrogen shared videostream (http://videostream.dn.ua/videopage/videoPage.php?g=c2JyY3ZsK2FuY3VkcWdZ&c=en&i=eWl6aXFnc2hxZQ%B9f%B9f&hc_location=ufi) their site is fast and convenient to use it only takes a click to watch different match but recently they're not available. The next site that I go to whenever they're down is vipleague it's not the best stream but it's not bad either. If you want a stream with chat included those subreddits suggested by vit05 will give you the best experience.


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: Pmalek on January 07, 2019, 08:49:06 AM
Streaming will always have a great delay time. Cable will always be faster. The best for betting are livescores websites, where the delay is minimal, and digital radios.
Bet365 has in the past years been faster even compared with my cable provider. From the start of this season they seem to have put a significant delay on their streaming services for reasons known to them only.
AM/FM radios are faster compared to Digital radios. The process of making the signal digital creates additional delay.
Thanks for the suggestions, I will also have a look at the streams you suggested, but I am afraid they are no different than most of the other free streaming sites, ads, low quality, slow speeds etc...

Someone from nitrogen shared videostream (http://videostream.dn.ua/videopage/videoPage.php?g=c2JyY3ZsK2FuY3VkcWdZ&c=en&i=eWl6aXFnc2hxZQ%B9f%B9f&hc_location=ufi) their site is fast and convenient to use it only takes a click to watch different match but recently they're not available. The next site that I go to whenever they're down is vipleague
Thanks, I have used videostream as well, both their SportZone app and the website service but both are no longer working.



Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: SyGambler on January 07, 2019, 08:58:31 AM
A question for those betting on sports and using streaming services as a reference, which are the fastest services available in terms of delay from the live event? For in-match betting a fast streaming provider is a +. bet365 streams were pretty fast in the past when I compared the delay with cable and satellite but for some reason they are much slower since the start of the 2018/2019 season.
Can someone who knows tell me what you guys are using? Paid, Free...whatever.

there is an app called Sportzone that I use in case the event isn't streamed on beinsports , there is no delay 
thing about this app is that they show the odds as well from 1xbet for the game that you are watching and the odds keep updating every like 5 seconds
I'm not sure if this app belongs to 1xbet but there are tons of sports and they always quote the odds from 1xbet , so they are either affiliated with them or it's directly sponsored by 1xbet


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: Pmalek on January 07, 2019, 10:07:40 AM
there is an app called Sportzone that I use in case the event isn't streamed on beinsports , there is no delay 
I know about that app as well, it is the same as videostream, Ukrainian service but it is no longer available. Sportzone is ok with football, but there is a delay compared to bet365 for example, if both services show the same match, the sportzone app is always about 1 second behind.
With other sports like handball or Ice hockey, the delay is in the 20-30 secs range, that is huge.


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: Naida_BR on January 07, 2019, 10:28:10 AM
A question for those betting on sports and using streaming services as a reference, which are the fastest services available in terms of delay from the live event? For in-match betting a fast streaming provider is a +. bet365 streams were pretty fast in the past when I compared the delay with cable and satellite but for some reason they are much slower since the start of the 2018/2019 season.
Can someone who knows tell me what you guys are using? Paid, Free...whatever.

I am not sure if you can find any stream faster than the ones that gambling sites provide. I have tested many streams in the past in order to find one that will be ahead of bet365, but I could find any. I am 99% sure that the fastest you can find is in bet365. I have also checked that bet365 updates with a goal faster of any other websites even these who give score updates only.


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: SyGambler on January 08, 2019, 06:16:03 AM
there is an app called Sportzone that I use in case the event isn't streamed on beinsports , there is no delay  
I know about that app as well, it is the same as videostream, Ukrainian service but it is no longer available. Sportzone is ok with football, but there is a delay compared to bet365 for example, if both services show the same match, the sportzone app is always about 1 second behind.
With other sports like handball or Ice hockey, the delay is in the 20-30 secs range, that is huge.


I usually use it for low tier tennis where  popular channels don't stream the event and it's the best I found so far for tennis , but yeah maybe there are better alternatives
will keep following the thread to know what people are using , cause I need some alternatives as well to watch on mobile or laptop in case electricity goes off here


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: crwth on January 08, 2019, 07:37:48 AM
Based on my experience, the cable one is the best streaming service. It's fast and reliable but the annoying part in some parts is the commercial, not a fan of it but you can't control it. If you are thinking about a website to stream on your laptop, smart TV, or mobile, I think it just depends on your ISP.

You just need to be aware of your match schedule and you will be fine. As long as you're available to watch it too. If you can record in your device or something, that's the best way to get it. You might get spoiled by the results though.


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: Tavarez on January 08, 2019, 08:17:38 AM
From my experience the best thing you can do to track the scores is through livescore platforms, they have minimum delay while streams are bit latish. I personally use this one> https://www.jokerlivestream.com


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: Pmalek on January 08, 2019, 09:59:04 AM
I will try with the Joker stream as well, see how that one performs.

Anther question though.
Services like bet365 offer sound notifications in case of goals and bookings but I have noticed they are quite late when confirming a penalty decision. Anyone has any experience with a betting service that also offers sound notifications + notification for penalties?


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: swogerino on January 09, 2019, 02:06:21 PM
I am searching for a good app for streaming for mobile phone or tablet but couldn't find one with a lot of ads popping up during all the time. Bet 365 is the only option for me now but I don't like being limited to Bet365 streams only. What app are you using for watching sports on the go ? Iphone or Android no problem as I have them both.


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on January 09, 2019, 03:04:03 PM
Bet365 has in the past years been faster even compared with my cable provider. From the start of this season they seem to have put a significant delay on their streaming services for reasons known to them only.
I was about to talk about bet365 but seeing that you already know about this. I usually watch on the TV but if the game I am looking for is not on the TV then I go with gambling sites like bet365, ladbrokes, paddy power etc. I have account with all of them.

Sometimes I google for urls on demand. Problem with those urls are that you will find commentary in different language. But most of the times you don't get disappointed, eventually you find one with English commentary.


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: icalical on January 10, 2019, 06:24:36 AM
Streaming will always have a great delay time. Cable will always be faster. The best for betting are livescores websites, where the delay is minimal, and digital radios.

But if you want to have image, the subreddits for streaming usually have good links.
/r/nbastreams
/r/nflstreams
/r/NHLStreams
/r/soccerstreams
/r/rugbystreams

I also like rojadirecta (http://www.rojadirecta.me/en?0)

Wow, I don't know until now, that subreddit has streaming service, I might try that, thank you.
I usually use BeinSport for streaming, and the delay is not really comfortable though. I don't think there are any streaming service that is not really struggling with delay. I watch sport in cabletv most of the time.


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: Pmalek on January 10, 2019, 09:57:16 AM
...I go with gambling sites like bet365, ladbrokes, paddy power etc. I have account with all of them.
I have not tried ladbrokes or paddy power, how would you rate their streaming services compared to bet365 in terms of delay and quality?

Sometimes I google for urls on demand.
I didnt understand what you meant with urls on demand, what is that exactly?


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: LTU_btc on January 10, 2019, 05:31:36 PM
I also would be interested to find streaming service without delay. Now I'm using Flashscore app, but it's not streaming service. It's livescore app where you can get notifications after something important happened - goal scored, red card and etc. But you get notifications only after 10-15 seconds.
IPTV is a good option because there are almost no delay. But there are one downside - usually good iptv providers give big number of sports channels, but it's still not enough. Smaller leagues or lower divisions are rarely broadcasted on TV, so if you want to bet on such events IPTV isn't an option for you.
Personally, I prefere to watch sports through Acestream (P2P streaming service) because of Full HD quality and no lag, but it has too big delay.
I also can give link of my favourite website of sports streaming - http://livetv.sx/enx/. Other similar websites have too much annoying ads, popups and malware, while this one is clean.


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: Pmalek on January 16, 2019, 08:16:53 PM
IPTV is a good option because there are almost no delay.
IPTV has in my experience a huge delay compared to both satellite transmission and even bigger delay compared to Cable. I am talking 20-40 seconds depending on the service. I have never seen an IPTV provider that is even remotely as fast as other sources.


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: LTU_btc on January 17, 2019, 11:36:16 PM
IPTV is a good option because there are almost no delay.
IPTV has in my experience a huge delay compared to both satellite transmission and even bigger delay compared to Cable. I am talking 20-40 seconds depending on the service. I have never seen an IPTV provider that is even remotely as fast as other sources.
I just checked one of my IPTV providers and it just have 1-2 seconds delay from terrestrial television. I don't know, maybe it depends on IPTV provider.
Anyway, all types of broadcasts have bigger or smaller delay because it took some time to transmit signal.


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: eternalgloom on January 18, 2019, 12:52:28 PM
Streaming will always have a great delay time. Cable will always be faster. The best for betting are livescores websites, where the delay is minimal, and digital radios.

But if you want to have image, the subreddits for streaming usually have good links.
/r/nbastreams
/r/nflstreams
/r/NHLStreams
/r/soccerstreams
/r/rugbystreams

Can vouch for those subreddits, I also use them to watch any sort of sports stream.
Though, you might have to sift through quite a few links to find a good one.

Alternatively, aren't there services that provide paid access to satellite feeds?
How would the delays on those types of streams be and are there any providers that are recommended?


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: Pmalek on January 19, 2019, 04:47:48 PM
I just checked one of my IPTV providers and it just have 1-2 seconds delay from terrestrial television. I don't know, maybe it depends on IPTV provider.
Those are excellent results, never thought that was possible nor have I seen that in my country anywhere.

Alternatively, aren't there services that provide paid access to satellite feeds?
How would the delays on those types of streams be and are there any providers that are recommended?
I dont know but I am interested to know the same thing. I am pretty sure there are paid and high quality streaming services available but people either dont know about them or they are not willing to share that info.


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: SyGambler on January 19, 2019, 05:33:25 PM
BTW if satellite television is allowed in your country then buying a starsat receiver may solve all your problems
few days ago I bought a starsat 2000 HD EXTREME , it opens a lot of good sport channels and other channels as well
for example on Arabsat it opens Beout Q channels , these channels are pirating football matches from Beinsports
also I found that many sport channels are open as well on Hotbird , like eurosport and canal hd

but as I said satellite television should be legal in your country so you can benefit from this device , and it costed me only 50$


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: LTU_btc on January 19, 2019, 11:06:08 PM
BTW if satellite television is allowed in your country then buying a starsat receiver may solve all your problems
few days ago I bought a starsat 2000 HD EXTREME , it opens a lot of good sport channels and other channels as well
for example on Arabsat it opens Beout Q channels , these channels are pirating football matches from Beinsports
also I found that many sport channels are open as well on Hotbird , like eurosport and canal hd

but as I said satellite television should be legal in your country so you can benefit from this device , and it costed me only 50$
Is it these channels are available to watch for free with this receiver or subscription is needed? And as I understand channels that you can watch with this device depends on your location? Because in Europe I barely can find even encrypted sports channels on HotBird or Astra.
I'm not is it same thing or not, but I heard about thing called cardsharing. To use it you need to have satellite dish and receiver. For few bucks per month you get lot of channels from cardsharing provider. And main advantage of cardsharing against IPTV that you don't need to have fast internet because it use only minimal amount of data.


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: Pmalek on January 20, 2019, 12:41:02 PM
SyGambler is probably talking about cardsharing, yes. Cardsharing is illegal as far as I know, and I remember reading stories about the police arresting prominent card sharing operations in the past. Anyone know more about it and can cardsharing also be legal in some ways?


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: LTU_btc on January 20, 2019, 04:18:34 PM
SyGambler is probably talking about cardsharing, yes. Cardsharing is illegal as far as I know, and I remember reading stories about the police arresting prominent card sharing operations in the past. Anyone know more about it and can cardsharing also be legal in some ways?
Cardsharing is illegal thing, it can't be legal in any way. For example in my country people who are using it aren't risking to be punished, as I know only illegal TV providers can be punished. Probably in some countries customers of these services are risking to be caught also, it depends on laws in every country.


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: Pmalek on February 11, 2019, 09:58:22 AM
Are there any bitcoin and blockchain based sportsbooks that have a live streaming option? I think I heard that sportsbet.io is now offering a live streaming option but haven't actually tried it out.


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: swogerino on February 11, 2019, 10:17:35 AM
Still no good answer to mobile streams, I have installed a few apps to watch live streams of soccer games but they are full of ads so I uninstalled all of them because of the risk to get my mobile infected with viruses.

Any good live stream that works well in mobile too ?


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: milewilda on February 11, 2019, 12:53:37 PM
Still no good answer to mobile streams, I have installed a few apps to watch live streams of soccer games but they are full of ads so I uninstalled all of them because of the risk to get my mobile infected with viruses.

Any good live stream that works well in mobile too ?
Im searching also for this thing but i do still failed to find the right one and same as yours i do have of those pop-ups or ads.I hope theres someone would share up.


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: LTU_btc on February 11, 2019, 07:28:13 PM
Are there any bitcoin and blockchain based sportsbooks that have a live streaming option? I think I heard that sportsbet.io is now offering a live streaming option but haven't actually tried it out.
Some events like NBA, Bundesliga, ATP tournaments is avilable on Cloudbet https://www.cloudbet.com/en/bitcoin-live-streaming-full-list. But so far I haven't tried to watch it.
Also, many streams can be found in scammy sportsbook 1xbit, they even allow to watch stream in full screen. But I think there is quite big delay in stream.


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: Pmalek on February 16, 2019, 03:50:37 PM
1xbit had decent delay with their football streams in the past, just a tick slower than bet365 but all their other sport streams were lagging quite a bit. They weren't that reliable either, a stream would start and stop or not start at all in some cases. 


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: Pmalek on September 23, 2019, 04:52:47 PM
But if you want to have image, the subreddits for streaming usually have good links.
/r/nbastreams
/r/nflstreams
/r/NHLStreams
/r/soccerstreams
/r/rugbystreams

Unfortunately soccer streams have been banned from reddit. There have been a couple of alternative sites but they have also been banned.
I heard soccerstreams now has a discord server but haven't found it. Anyone has info on soccerstreams on discord or a fresh new sites with good streams?


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: LTU_btc on September 23, 2019, 07:23:39 PM
Unfortunately soccer streams have been banned from reddit. There have been a couple of alternative sites but they have also been banned.
I heard soccerstreams now has a discord server but haven't found it. Anyone has info on soccerstreams on discord or a fresh new sites with good streams?
Not only Soccer streams, but also NBA streams were banned too some time ago, Motorsport streams were forced to move off-Reddit to external website. And it's only matter of time when remaining streaming Reddits will be banned too.
So far I haven't found good alternative. It's getting difficult to find good quality streams, so now I use IPTV and it gives less headache because I don't have to watch 240p streams which stop working on most interesting moment.
Sometimes I use http://livetv.sx/enx/, it's one of the best streaming websites currently.
And I had found one invite link to Discord server, I'm not sure it's same that you're looking for. I sent link to PM.


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: Pmalek on September 24, 2019, 08:06:00 AM
Thanks LTU_btc I got the invite. They changed two different discord channels and after that they created a new site - https://home.footybite.com/
They don't use discord either as the channel is too much for them to handle as they say. Only the footybite site is used for now. 


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: KennyGG on September 27, 2019, 08:02:03 PM
I am not sure if sport is a priority, but VibraVid platform is starting in a few days and it will be offering top-speed as it is based on bitTorrent Protocol. Check it out on BeatzCoin.io  8) It sounds like music is their main focus but from what I know they do not plan any restrictions for other types of media like news, videoblogs or sports.


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: Heisenberg_Hunter on September 29, 2019, 03:12:49 PM
Unfortunately soccer streams have been banned from reddit. There have been a couple of alternative sites but they have also been banned.
I heard soccerstreams now has a discord server but haven't found it. Anyone has info on soccerstreams on discord or a fresh new sites with good streams?
Haven't you tried with CBS All access and Hulu? I don't gamble or bet very often in sports, but I do watch the game in Hulu and use the website to bet on the game. Cable channels as others have pointed out will kill us with their commercials but they are much more cheaper as far as my country is concerned. I do have an account in Hulu and would be watching NFL in that. Meanwhile I would be placing my bet from my other computer which isn't really time consuming TBH. Hulu or CBS has an average price of around $10 per month which isn't really expensive and can be possibly used for betting.

I had a huge interest on NFL sort of games. I guess Hulu and faboTV also hosts Premiere League for cheap pay rates. I would always go for a cheap streaming service instead of wasting my time in searching for free streams.


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: LTU_btc on September 29, 2019, 09:09:02 PM
Haven't you tried with CBS All access and Hulu? I don't gamble or bet very often in sports, but I do watch the game in Hulu and use the website to bet on the game. Cable channels as others have pointed out will kill us with their commercials but they are much more cheaper as far as my country is concerned. I do have an account in Hulu and would be watching NFL in that. Meanwhile I would be placing my bet from my other computer which isn't really time consuming TBH. Hulu or CBS has an average price of around $10 per month which isn't really expensive and can be possibly used for betting.

I had a huge interest on NFL sort of games. I guess Hulu and faboTV also hosts Premiere League for cheap pay rates. I would always go for a cheap streaming service instead of wasting my time in searching for free streams.
AFAIK, these services only works in US and even with VPN there is no guarantee that it will work for you.
It's always good option to subscribe legal streaming services, but unfortunately it's not cheap. And if you want to watch all top competitions you will have to subscribe multiple services and spend a lot.
Still, sometimes you'll need to use illegal websites when there is no official TV/internet broadcast, for example lower football divisions, lower tie tennis tournaments and etc.


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: Pmalek on September 30, 2019, 08:49:02 AM
@KennyGG
You are promoting that platform thingy in every single post you make on this forum and it probably has nothing to do with what I am asking or with the other OPs where you promoted that site.

@Heisenberg_Hunter
CBS All access is probably suitable only for the US market so I can't use that in Europe.
 


Title: Re: Which are the fastest streaming services available?
Post by: Heisenberg_Hunter on October 04, 2019, 04:14:05 PM
AFAIK, these services only works in US and even with VPN there is no guarantee that it will work for you.
It's always good option to subscribe legal streaming services, but unfortunately it's not cheap. And if you want to watch all top competitions you will have to subscribe multiple services and spend a lot.
Still, sometimes you'll need to use illegal websites when there is no official TV/internet broadcast, for example lower football divisions, lower tie tennis tournaments and etc.
Neither I am an US citizen. I used my friend's Hulu account and been using it with a paid VPN for may be around a year or less. I do agree that Hulu can bypass your VPN practices and still ban you from not viewing these shows but a paid VPN could help you out. It's kinda messy to set it up in a go, but they are worthy enough to give a try. If you have a friend in US, sign up by instructing him and use a paid VPN to bypass the block. Free live relays are good, but some of them would be taken down quite often and we need to shift between links.  :(

CBS All access is probably suitable only for the US market so I can't use that in Europe.
Why don't you try out a paid VPN service like ExpressVPN?. I am neither vouching them nor contradicting them, but they seem to be good for the money we pay for unblocking sites. $8-9 per month is not really expensive for a gambler who spends thousands of dollars in betting.