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I think we have enough proof to show Ethereum Classic Vision is a scam, some guys already talk about it on Ethereum Nowa (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079183.msg49111869#msg49111869)

Here is the thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5089443.0
https://archive.is/7kG9w

Of course no team...



Their twitter account :

https://i.imgur.com/BHXhOIq.png

When we want to get the forked bitcoin then we need the private key to get it. Isn't it should work the same for Ether network? Move all the coins to a new wallet before creating a wallet for ETCV.

PS: I am not saying Ethereum Classic Vision is a scam nor saying legit. I still have not done any research about it.

I don't think you need any research, this is the link of their official wallet : https://etcvwallet.com/

https://i.imgur.com/gCZvLCQ.png

Nothing much needed mday. It's proved that this is a clear scam and fishy attempt to steal our money. By the way, why no dt still red tagged the user? It would save some of the noobs from being scammed.

I guess because none of the DT users were yet confident enough this is a scam to actually tag the user.
It shouldn't be taken lightly to do so.

I myself haven't had the time to look deeply into that project, and won't tag it if not being sure enough I am not doing any harm to a legit project.

If you read about DT you will understand how you become DT and that it comes with hardly any obligation.
You are welcome to tag him yourself for now.

Looks like they done a runner......I wonder what all their shill accounts will do now - continue shilling for BiteBTC, DataBank, Bitsane & Kleynbank I suppose.....

If you are using MetaMask and you click their WEB Wallet (https://etcvwallet.com/), it directly go to MetaMask extension and once its clicked this will pop up to your chrome browser.


chrome-extension://nkbihfbeogaeaoehlefnkodbefgpgknn/phishing.html#hostname=etcvwallet.com&href=https%3A%2F%2Fetcvwallet.com%2F (http://chrome-extension://nkbihfbeogaeaoehlefnkodbefgpgknn/phishing.html#hostname=etcvwallet.com&href=https%3A%2F%2Fetcvwallet.com%2F)
https://i.imgur.com/PVkHSlE.png



I know it's to early to prove if they're scam, but fair enough we have been warned and unless a more legitimate evidence to be presented.

Okay I got that but you know if someone don't tag, they will scam people for a lot of ETH. It worths to tag now. We are not on DT and it is why we can't tag, if we tag, no one will see it. by the way, are you on DT?

Looking at the posts above it looks like they are not transparent yet. I will do my job. Hope the DTs will do too.

Tagged. However you should always tag yourself BEFORE asking DT to tag.
If you do so, maybe people will actually add you to their trust list, which is the point of the trust network.

DT should only be a default setting. Users who know better should have their own list.


Againt this is not the "job" of DT.
Maybe you should read again how DT's are chosen and what it implies.

I know you know all this. So stop implying being a DT is an actual job or something.
People are DT based on the accuracy of their own trust list the feedback they leave. It shouldn't become a burden or alike.

2 of ETH fork is scam LOL!

ETCV SCAM

Ethereum Nowa SCAM

In fact there's only one hard fork but without new coin. Eth will be ETH, nothing new.

Their main wallet is banned, so you don't have to think about it and guess if it's a fraud or not, everyone knows it's a scam! It's a pity if people have entrusted their private keys with coins in their wallet.

Yeah I think too but you know it's better when old DTs tagged them. And better is when admin delete thread. As i said i'm not 100% sure, maybe 99.99% yes.

Exactly!

I can't believe so many people fell for this. It's Ethereum after all, people should know better, read the news, etc!
In the last 10 days, I have seen many people wear their avatars and signatures, in fact, there are more than 600 people who have signed up and taken part in their signature campaign... this is madness! I hope the number of people who might have lost their private keys is not that big.

Someone should tag ethclassicvision (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2512892) - the campaign manager.

edit: asche already did...but it is positive  ;)

https://i.ibb.co/0M0L5wq/feedback.jpg

This was a legit stupid misclick. Corrected thanks to you.

Of course, we are all adults, we can analyze opinions, but sometimes hope and belief in the good things make us close our eyes and turn off the ability to make a real assessment of events.   :'(

Menhn this is really outrageous, I visited their twitter page this evening and I get the error message that the page is restricted this has really proof it to be a scam after all.

Nice, thank you!

Can you please make sense of that part?

What does it have to do with an eth token?

We already said it.

But be very careful with them.

Report in here as well in case it's needed:

stop spam the forum with always the same post. You get my red.

let's see what will happen tomorrow i tried to sell account or get loan for it i received a lot of negative feedback but they can't do it for the guys who scam for millions of dollars (scam ) not even accusation like me

What proofs do you need?
Launched wallet, got caught, domain suspended, another wallet launched.
Who are "they" and what this has to do with scam accusation?

I'm surprised so many members are promoting this and it's creating a big noise here, their fork is going to happen tomorrow and we'll read more update after the fork, they have a good number of members in their channel and admins are very active, more to watch on this fork.

Never reveal your private key to any newly forked blockchain. We will know by tomorrow whether it is a scam or not. :)

Thanks. I wait one more and will red all of them. I'm so tired with spammer/ scammer/ stealer.... "stealer" is the good word for that one. How many n00b will get steal again ? is that normal ?

theymos can't be everywhere I know, but his forum is used for so many scam.. it's a shame.

Now they have this site https://etcv-wallet.com/    ( its open when u click WEBWALLET link on  https://ethereumcv.io/#wallets )

Its scam or not??

Agree. They are definitely scammer while asking people for private key.
Firefox and MetaMask have put these sites on the warning list
https://thecryptosight.com/be-aware-of-scam-during-the-ethereum-constantinople-hard-fork/

Now it's official it's scam.

This is indeed a scam I lost 24ETH today because of this stupid hardfork. Be careful about it guys.

Sorry to hear about that. I feel you man.

Do you have a tx id to prove this?

It's starting to hit the media. Decrypt just did a piece showing why it's a scam.

https://decryptmedia.com/4439/ethereum-hard-fork-scam

I still have trouble understanding why so many brand new accounts post here about that scam. I don't get it.

Does anyone have a clue?

Thats not matter scam or not a scam,new tokens we hopefully getting after snapshot and selling after for big profit

LOL, about 620 people are involved in their signature campaign. Probably one of the biggest bounty campaign recently, that shows that so many people believed in this project - another negative hit from cryptocurrencies.

Dude,i carefully had a look at your topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095750.0) and you never mentionned this there.

Lot of people are trying to find out what happened, maybe you should give a little more infos on concerned thread, don't you think ?

Adding the quote from his thread for those interested.

Not sure how it adds up but it sure seems a lot of eth got transferred to that address recently...

you and others who get paid to not give red trust

I was not sure it is scam for long, but when you start own coin with own blockchain you don't ask for ETH like that:

(I cleared the ETH-address — so noone would make a mistake sending there anything.)

And additionally, there were several questions in Telegram-chat of the ETCV about explorer, admin ignores all of them! Expecting people would insert privat keys from their wallets. So there could be no coin at all!

These two facts made me clearly see that is 100% scam!

Due to the fact that everyone shared their opinion and investigation, many people here for several days already know that this scam. Thank's

This is one of the addresses they sent the scammed coins.

https://etherscan.io/address/0xd8ddfd63696127b18911546b13856cf98a246ff4

Trading pairs with ETCV appeared on the Yobit exchange.
https://i.gyazo.com/db22599dfb1bcc50d9a2ddef7b4efbc7.png

scam exchange with scam etcv coin

I have long suspected ETCV, because they claim that Ethereum's Fork but is an ERC20 token, which is obviously different from the fork we have seen in the past. It is more like using the official fork of Ethereum to improve oneself reputation. Whether it is scam or not, its motivation is very dark.

Look like OP Accusation is valid. Just now I have read a article on cointelgraph " Two Alleged Ethereum ‘Scam Forks’ Appropriating Users’ Private Keys, Report Finds (https://cointelegraph.com/news/two-alleged-ethereum-scam-forks-appropriating-users-private-keys-report-finds)" by Adrian Zmudzinski (https://cointelegraph.com/authors/adrian-zmudzinski). After read full report I don't believe that the both fork are legit. There is enough evidence to called them scammer. Obviously few greedy people's will fall into it.

Does it prove that they are legit ? I think Yobit itself is a scam. Lots of Accusation against them.

I did not claim this, I just shared the information. I also do not trust this exchange.

They list everything they can and they are not removing anything and exchange is full of scam coins, dead coins and "pump and dump" coins(also, not provably fair dice and some kind of weird investment scheme which looks like ponzi). I traded there in the past and I never had problem with them but users complained about waiting for withdrawal for several months, and yeah, they have shitty support. They don't care what they put on exchange.

sorry for a little off topic here, but here is an interesting article about Yobit "Exchange announces criminal ‘pump’ on Twitter"
https://cryptonewsreview.com/yobit-scam-exchange-announces-criminal-pump-on-twitter/

I have traded also there. I was face problem regarding 2FA code on email address. I never received any code on my email till 6 month. 0.1BTC was there once BTC was almost 20K. I was unable to withdraw fund due to email verification code. I had submitted lots of support ticket. But unfortunately I had not got reply. After 6 month they send verification code on my mail. Then I withdraw my all fund immediately and never use anymore. But bad luck when I withdrawn BTC was 6K :(. However I have loss by using Yobit and I don't trust them.     

Agreed. Yoshit is a total scam - that's why moderators deleted their official thread.

I did what I could on their signature that I wore for over a week.
I hope it will help other people.
thank you for effort made to avoid this scam

Nice initiative. Like it a lot!

Even if this is already tradeable I will not buy this coin, the only exchange that will accept this scam coin is a scam exchange also like Yobit, you can buy and sell this on Yobit but you will end up gambling in their trading platform because all the volumes are all fake.

what I want to ask, is yobit indicated a scam recently, or indeed for a long time ?
because I used to trade there, and fortunately my assets could be withdraw

Exchanges like yobit are just a shame for the community. The sums of the stolen eth are already approaching 100k$  >:( :-X if you count the tokens that are also stolen from those who entered their private key. Proves again that greed leads to mistakes. Added merits to you measures for this important topic sure that you saved many new users.

I think that the Yobit exchange could well run this scam fork (ETCV). This exchange is famous for its pyramids and dishonest actions towards its users. On the forum many topics about this shit exchange.

This is a big help to other people in the future to first research the project they are joining in. It still sad to see in their scam address have hacked many ETH wallets in just short of time. More like 104 ETH in total.

well I was guess that too  ;D bounty hunters make them famous to steal money from ICO very deprecated bitcointalk becoming the source of these type of scams 

agreed with you mate yobit like exchange is a poor evil for cryptocurrency community for sure peoples have to leave these scammy exchange yobit at its worst.  :'(

They still exist because people still use it. If you want exchange like Yobit to vanish then we need to decrease their users. Honestly I believe they'll run out of business sooner or later if they keep doing shady things, unless people are too blind to see it.

I still see some people Yobit signature I don't know if Yobit still offer signature campaign, or they are just a believer of Yobit, with so many complaints I wonder when will Yobit close their trading platform, we have so many exchanges coming in.

Dafuq! Yobit listed ETCV. Not surprising as it is also a scammy exchange. I thought the Russian government closed it already. People wearing Yobit signature deserve red trusts definitely.

Getting listed on Yoshit is proof enough on it's own that it's a scam.

I almost promote this one because the projects look good at first glance, but when I saw there are a lot of high-rank members I have to settle for another, anyway those participated in the campaign will still get their stakes and trade them on Yobit, but careful trading trade I hope you will get paid for your efforts, although I consider this as a pump and dump coin.

Ehm no. Nothing ever looked good about that project.

Claiming they solved sharding/high tps before ETH developer did, out of nowhere, without money? Sure why not :D And pigs can fly.

Yobit is currently blocked in Russia, in order to take a screenshot I had to enter using VPN. I hope that other countries will start blocking these scammers too.

another attempt to stole eth priv keys from ETCV <info@lichenziya.ru>:

https://i.imgur.com/XWlOG3W.png

and there is link to https://etcv-wallet.co (https://etcv-wallet.co) (already reported):

https://i.imgur.com/rxRdTaR.png

100% so... Guys accounts have been suspend for what I read.

No.

new bounty  http://archive.is/85ZY5
new ANN http://archive.is/PQ7rw

profile : ethereumclassicvision
link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2555023

Thank you. Tagged

new bounty: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116108.0
archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20190311205909/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116108.0

profile:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2555023