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Title: See with DT function - Enhancement idea
Post by: asche on January 10, 2019, 08:09:52 PM
Hello,

I made this proposition in the original updated DT thread by theymos.
Since it is getting drowned in the discussion whether the changes are positive or not and various drama I am posting my proposition here.

I love the new function "see as dt".

#2
You can view any page as if you were using the default trust settings by putting ;dt at the end of the URL. Eg. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=35;dt

When using this I would love the ability to browse the forum pages without having to add ;dt again at each time.

For instance :

1- I visit a profile
2- I add the ;dt suffix
3- I browse to the users feedbacks, and ";dt" is still there.

Removing the dt reverts to basic navigation.

I guess this shouldn't be too hard to implement, and would prove very useful.

Your thoughts?


For reference
About that one, would it be possible to make it stick when clicking on links on a page you loaded with the dt suffix.

For instance I want to see a post using the dt suffix, and then want to click on the trust ratings of someone in the thread, without having to add the dt suffix each time again.


Title: Re: See with DT function - Enhancement idea
Post by: OgNasty on January 10, 2019, 08:20:23 PM
It might be cool to have a “View as DT” button somewhere, and when activated everything you see on the forum is from the perspective of DT. That way you wouldn’t have to mess with urls and could click your way back and forth if you wanted.


Title: Re: See with DT function - Enhancement idea
Post by: asche on January 10, 2019, 08:32:53 PM
It might be cool to have a “View as DT” button somewhere, and when activated everything you see on the forum is from the perspective of DT. That way you wouldn’t have to mess with urls and could click your way back and forth if you wanted.

Something like the Facebook view as button :)

My thought exactly. However this kind of implementation would be way heavier than just messing with the url in my opinion. But I'm no coder.


Title: Re: See with DT function - Enhancement idea
Post by: OgNasty on January 10, 2019, 08:37:19 PM
It might be cool to have a “View as DT” button somewhere, and when activated everything you see on the forum is from the perspective of DT. That way you wouldn’t have to mess with urls and could click your way back and forth if you wanted.

Something like the Facebook view as button :)

My thought exactly. However this kind of implementation would be way heavier than just messing with the url in my opinion. But I'm no coder.

Yes, the Facebook view as is exactly what I was picturing but site wide and not just on your profile. I don’t think it would be difficult to code. Pretty minimal code additions needed actually.


Title: Re: See with DT function - Enhancement idea
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on January 10, 2019, 08:45:00 PM
Maybe a rollover option like in the "Last Edit", just put the pointer over the trust score and you see the ;dt. No need to open profiles you can directly see the scores in the thread.


Title: Re: See with DT function - Enhancement idea
Post by: asche on January 10, 2019, 09:08:24 PM
Maybe a rollover option like in the "Last Edit", just put the pointer over the trust score and you see the ;dt. No need to open profiles you can directly see the scores in the thread.


That wouldn't cover the feedback page tho.


Title: Re: See with DT function - Enhancement idea
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on January 10, 2019, 09:19:09 PM
If theymos activated trust viewings for visitors/guests as he has mentioned before, then opening a private/incognito window and browsing the forum not-logged-in would have the desired result.


Title: Re: See with DT function - Enhancement idea
Post by: Vod on January 10, 2019, 09:22:06 PM
It might be cool to have a “View as DT” button somewhere, and when activated everything you see on the forum is from the perspective of DT. That way you wouldn’t have to mess with urls and could click your way back and forth if you wanted.

Already exists  (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bpiporg-chrome-extension/gnpadhillpjighiahdbjbjgihpilakda)   ;)

BPIP parses all records using default trust.   Install the extension and you click on any user profile to see their default stats.

Maybe a rollover option like in the "Last Edit", just put the pointer over the trust score and you see the ;dt. No need to open profiles you can directly see the scores in the thread.


Hmmm, that is a good idea to add to the extension!


Title: Re: See with DT function - Enhancement idea
Post by: asche on January 10, 2019, 09:27:41 PM
Already exists  (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bpiporg-chrome-extension/gnpadhillpjighiahdbjbjgihpilakda)   ;)

BPIP parses all records using default trust.   Install the extension and you click on any user profile to see their default stats.



Do you have a separate ann thread for that extension? Or do you maintain it in your bpip thread?

Thank you anyway, again.


Title: Re: See with DT function - Enhancement idea
Post by: OgNasty on January 10, 2019, 09:28:46 PM
It might be cool to have a “View as DT” button somewhere, and when activated everything you see on the forum is from the perspective of DT. That way you wouldn’t have to mess with urls and could click your way back and forth if you wanted.

Already exists  (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bpiporg-chrome-extension/gnpadhillpjighiahdbjbjgihpilakda)   ;)

BPIP parses all records using default trust.   Install the extension and you click on any user profile to see their default stats.

Google Chrome?  Gross...  I don't think an add-on is needed for this and don't see why the entire forum couldn't benefit and not just those willing to trust an extension.  It's a fairly simple addition.


Title: Re: See with DT function - Enhancement idea
Post by: Anduck on January 10, 2019, 09:30:01 PM
It might be cool to have a “View as DT” button somewhere, and when activated everything you see on the forum is from the perspective of DT. That way you wouldn’t have to mess with urls and could click your way back and forth if you wanted.

It's better that it requires some "effort" to view as DT. We don't want to give any more legitimacy to DT. People should make their own trust lists, DT is meant to be just the default setting for newbies.


Title: Re: See with DT function - Enhancement idea
Post by: asche on January 10, 2019, 09:41:41 PM
It might be cool to have a “View as DT” button somewhere, and when activated everything you see on the forum is from the perspective of DT. That way you wouldn’t have to mess with urls and could click your way back and forth if you wanted.

It's better that it requires some "effort" to view as DT. We don't want to give any more legitimacy to DT. People should make their own trust lists, DT is meant to be just the default setting for newbies.

People that would use this function already have a custom trust list.

This means they know the limitation of DT. I doubt this would legitimize DT more.


Title: Re: See with DT function - Enhancement idea
Post by: Vod on January 10, 2019, 09:42:36 PM
It might be cool to have a “View as DT” button somewhere, and when activated everything you see on the forum is from the perspective of DT. That way you wouldn’t have to mess with urls and could click your way back and forth if you wanted.

Already exists  (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bpiporg-chrome-extension/gnpadhillpjighiahdbjbjgihpilakda)   ;)

BPIP parses all records using default trust.   Install the extension and you click on any user profile to see their default stats.

Google Chrome?  Gross...  I don't think an add-on is needed for this and don't see why the entire forum couldn't benefit and not just those willing to trust an extension.  It's a fairly simple addition.

"Gross"... LOL!

I understand your point.  One of the reasons I developed BPIP was to introduce new features that Theymos does not have time to implement.

Do you have a separate ann thread for that extension? Or do you maintain it in your bpip thread?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5038684.0


Title: Re: See with DT function - Enhancement idea
Post by: The Cryptovator on January 10, 2019, 10:40:23 PM
It might be cool to have a “View as DT” button somewhere,
Great idea, how it will be if add option (button) on trust page like below picture I have edited. Always change url really not a good practice.




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It's better that it requires some "effort" to view as DT. We don't want to give any more legitimacy to DT. People should make their own trust lists, DT is meant to be just the default setting for newbies.
I don't think any problem for newbie. They will not make custom list IMO. So whoever will make custom list I think he is fully aware about trust system and he will able to visit this link  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dt)to view full DT list.


Title: Re: See with DT function - Enhancement idea
Post by: OgNasty on January 10, 2019, 10:47:48 PM
It might be cool to have a “View as DT” button somewhere,
Great idea, how it will be if add option (button) on trust page like below picture I have edited. Always change url really not a good practice.



That would probably be the most simple solution.  Anduck has a good point though.  It does seem to run contrary to what theymos is trying to accomplish.