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Title: Crypto backed assets
Post by: NeoAnderson00 on January 10, 2019, 10:13:53 PM
Anybody know of any crypto-currency backed by actual assets?

I only know of one crypto-currency backed by assets.


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: mummybtc on January 11, 2019, 06:09:14 AM
Anybody know of any crypto-currency backed by actual assets?

I only know of one crypto-currency backed by assets.

I know of Xarum hich is backed by real Gold, but for me this idea is either too primitive or to early in te live of digital currencies,when we call something digital there is reason for this, Dollar is never backed by anything and most of the currecies inthe world but trust, people trust BTC enough to value it at $3600 and this should be the way things should work in digital space


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: blockman on January 11, 2019, 08:49:40 AM
You posted this and you posted again in another section with the same question. I advise you to lock the topic you created today and just stick to this discussion. Going back to the question, I'm not sure if those 'gold' backed up crypto's are for real if many are existing I believe only few of them are real. The other crypto that's backed by assets are the exchange coins such as kucoin shares, binance coin and other tokens that are owned by big exchange companies.


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: coco23 on January 11, 2019, 09:25:12 AM
The other crypto that's backed by assets are the exchange coins such as kucoin shares, binance coin and other tokens that are owned by big exchange companies.
But are they really backed by something? Of course holding those tokens gives you a "dividend" of some sort, but it's not like they are comparable to stocks where you actually own a part of the company...


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: Cnut237 on January 11, 2019, 11:04:06 AM
Anybody know of any crypto-currency backed by actual assets?

I only know of one crypto-currency backed by assets.

Well, stablecoins in theory are backed by the equivalent in fiat... although this is always a contentious point, and Tether is never free from controversy.


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: South Park on January 11, 2019, 05:53:22 PM
Anybody know of any crypto-currency backed by actual assets?

I only know of one crypto-currency backed by assets.
Besides the currencies that are supposedly backed by fiat there were also in the past some cryptocurrencies that their creators claimed were backed by gold and all of them failed, if you ask me a cryptocurrency backed by anything is a contradiction, we are trying to be decentralized here and if you want a coin to be backed by something then you will need to trust in a centralized party to keep hold of whatever backs that coin so a cryptocurrency backed by something is not a cryptocurrency in my eyes.


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: CLywaTeLb on January 11, 2019, 06:00:12 PM
None of the crypto assets protected by real assets is credible. Even security such as gold, diamonds, emeralds is often fiction. Even USDT and similar assets are being questioned.


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: knuckey on January 13, 2019, 02:02:43 AM
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Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: aervin11 on January 13, 2019, 03:37:50 AM
Anybody know of any crypto-currency backed by actual assets?

I only know of one crypto-currency backed by assets.
Besides the currencies that are supposedly backed by fiat there were also in the past some cryptocurrencies that their creators claimed were backed by gold and all of them failed, if you ask me a cryptocurrency backed by anything is a contradiction, we are trying to be decentralized here and if you want a coin to be backed by something then you will need to trust in a centralized party to keep hold of whatever backs that coin so a cryptocurrency backed by something is not a cryptocurrency in my eyes.

Exactly! It won't be decentralized if the crypto is tied with a centralized asset. It's just creating a confusion that investors might get comfortable of investing because it's backed by something. This seems like a ponzi scheme to me


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: damberg on January 13, 2019, 11:16:48 AM
Anybody know of any crypto-currency backed by actual assets?

I only know of one crypto-currency backed by assets.
Besides the currencies that are supposedly backed by fiat there were also in the past some cryptocurrencies that their creators claimed were backed by gold and all of them failed, if you ask me a cryptocurrency backed by anything is a contradiction, we are trying to be decentralized here and if you want a coin to be backed by something then you will need to trust in a centralized party to keep hold of whatever backs that coin so a cryptocurrency backed by something is not a cryptocurrency in my eyes.

Exactly! It won't be decentralized if the crypto is tied with a centralized asset. It's just creating a confusion that investors might get comfortable of investing because it's backed by something. This seems like a ponzi scheme to me

Moreover, backing or tying a cryptocurrency to another asset requires a proper valuation (and ongoing revaluation) of underlying asset. That is difficult and for example banks employ large teams to do it.


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: South Park on January 13, 2019, 05:35:25 PM
Moreover, backing or tying a cryptocurrency to another asset requires a proper valuation (and ongoing revaluation) of underlying asset. That is difficult and for example banks employ large teams to do it.
And even if such audit takes place doubts will still persist, this is what happened to tether some months ago when people began to worry if all the tether in circulation was in fact backed by dollars, everyone in tether backed their claims and said there was nothing to worry but I do not remember if an external party was given the chance to test if their claims were true so trust will always be an issue with such a coin.


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: Febo on January 13, 2019, 08:20:06 PM
Anybody know of any crypto-currency backed by actual assets?

I only know of one crypto-currency backed by assets.

Problem with that is that you never know. There is lots coins gold backed. Stable coins are fiat backed. But do they have any Gold really. Do they have fiat stored somewhere?  You dont know. So is really stupid idea to buy such coin. Buy USD or Gold not token baked by them.


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: HODL2090 on January 13, 2019, 08:46:50 PM
Well, stablecoins in theory are backed by the equivalent in fiat... although this is always a contentious point, and Tether is never free from controversy.

Not just fiat, there are still coins which are backed by commodity currency, some by other cryptocurrencies and some yet operate a system where they are not collaterized by any asset.

Regulations and centralization are linked with stabke coins, hence the controversy it attracts.


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: Dexion on January 13, 2019, 10:30:56 PM
there are lots of crypto that are backed up by assets. even by state assets. like petro. petro is a Venezuelan digital currency backed by state oil assets. then Rocks is a currency backed by Swiss currency. and I think in the future every country will have a digital currency backed up by the country's wealth.


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: tomahawk9 on January 13, 2019, 10:47:54 PM
like petro. petro is a Venezuelan digital currency backed by state oil assets
The thing about Petro is that it could hardly be called a cryptocurrency, it's nothing more than a centralized scamcoin created by an oppresive dictatorship that was looking to get around the sanctions from US and Europe. Also, the U.S. Department of the Treasury said that anyone who wants to get involved with this scamcoin could face serious consequences so not even investors can buy it. Last but not least, it should be called a unit of account since you can't buy stuff with it in that country (at least that's what I've heard).


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: blockman on January 14, 2019, 09:21:53 AM
The other crypto that's backed by assets are the exchange coins such as kucoin shares, binance coin and other tokens that are owned by big exchange companies.
But are they really backed by something? Of course holding those tokens gives you a "dividend" of some sort, but it's not like they are comparable to stocks where you actually own a part of the company...
Yes, they really backed by something. They are company and that's most of the companies in the stock market do. They are back by the service and operation that they do. The fees that they collect and listing fees from another coin that wants to penetrated their exchange are their source of income. And that means, they are backed by a real company that's registered and operates. They make money and profit through their services and their product is their exchange itself.


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: Vit83 on January 14, 2019, 01:46:40 PM
I don't know why people looking for a coin baked with something from real world) It can't make you rich) For example 1 usdt cost 1 usd, and can become 10usd price it always will be 1 usd or less)


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: target on January 14, 2019, 02:05:25 PM
Anybody know of any crypto-currency backed by actual assets?

I only know of one crypto-currency backed by assets.

Problem with that is that you never know. There is lots coins gold backed. Stable coins are fiat backed. But do they have any Gold really. Do they have fiat stored somewhere?  You dont know. So is really stupid idea to buy such coin. Buy USD or Gold not token baked by them.

Xaurum posted photos of their gold bars inside the bank vault somewhere on their thread, I clearly remember this because I was part of their bounty campaign. I think the previous project was Aurum, I don't know how it works but its also backed by gold.


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: damberg on January 14, 2019, 02:36:45 PM
Moreover, backing or tying a cryptocurrency to another asset requires a proper valuation (and ongoing revaluation) of underlying asset. That is difficult and for example banks employ large teams to do it.
And even if such audit takes place doubts will still persist, this is what happened to tether some months ago when people began to worry if all the tether in circulation was in fact backed by dollars, everyone in tether backed their claims and said there was nothing to worry but I do not remember if an external party was given the chance to test if their claims were true so trust will always be an issue with such a coin.

I think Tether boasted with some audits but I don't know how reliable they were. I agree trust is the key for cryptocurrency backed with assets.


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: kingzpro on January 17, 2019, 08:47:36 PM
I know about a few of them and the one i remember at the moment is real estate asset ledger REAL ehere you own part of property for real tokens so we can say that real is an asset backed crypto.


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: smoolae on January 17, 2019, 09:03:48 PM
Don't really know any assets that are backed by crypto and if you think about it why would there be any. The cryptocurrencies as we know them are highly volatile except the so-called "stablecoins". You can have some crypto to be backed by some commodity or valuta, but other way around it would be rather weird.


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: luongdk on January 17, 2019, 09:48:06 PM
Check out gigzi project, but as far as I know it is an ICO, not ready project. According to my experience just all of ICOs connected with crypto backed loans don't have good history and token isn't on demand. That's what I actually see. To my mind there is much more sense to tokenize such things as art , paints . Art is growing and just imagine, you can buy a part of picture. It is awesome!


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: cryptomaster420 on January 17, 2019, 11:41:21 PM
It's been coming since 2017, it's convenient, it's absolutely useful and glad to see projects finally utilizing this strategy.
Unfortunately for moonboys, moon missions will not happen on these projects, only boring steady growth with the occasional crash  ;D


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: Dragonrage201 on January 18, 2019, 01:24:45 AM
There have been some ICOs that are backed by assets e.g. Gemera backed by Colombian emeralds, Jinbi backed by some African gold mine and some art backed coin.


Title: Re: Crypto backed assets
Post by: Febo on January 18, 2019, 03:43:30 PM
Anybody know of any crypto-currency backed by actual assets?

I only know of one crypto-currency backed by assets.

Problem with that is that you never know. There is lots coins gold backed. Stable coins are fiat backed. But do they have any Gold really. Do they have fiat stored somewhere?  You dont know. So is really stupid idea to buy such coin. Buy USD or Gold not token baked by them.

Xaurum posted photos of their gold bars inside the bank vault somewhere on their thread, I clearly remember this because I was part of their bounty campaign. I think the previous project was Aurum, I don't know how it works but its also backed by gold.

What can you do with picture?  Nothing. Once something happens they can just sell that gold or pick it up. There is nothing that can force them to hand that gold to token owners. Nothing. If there would be some storeroom with unbreakable lock that could be opened only with your token then could work. But like this is silly. You give them full trust. Sort of stupid if you can just buy gold yourself and put it under your pillow.