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Unity they say make things possible
After recent attempts to cheat bounty hunters have failed, projects dev will become scared now to try fraudulent acts

Project such as cyberfm, twogap, Desico, deex have learned that fact
Let’s continue this unity, it works

You are very right bounty hunters do need to unite and speak up against every unfair decision or attitude of bounty managers or the project team and infact the pressure imposed by the collective power is always more effective. So keep posting and speaking for your rights in the forum threads and also the telegram channels.

support! Too much cheating from project admins, changing the rules on the very last day of bounty, refusing to pay, or blocking coins for a few months ... this should be stopped

Some of these so called dev and their,even some investors don't reasons why bounty hunters should be paid,they forgot that without bounty hunters,it will be difficult for them to reach out to the community,it is time to show them how important bounty hunters are.

I'm absolutely agree with you. There were another examples in this year when the ermy of united bounty hunters had an influence on the developers of ICO. I think we should continue this tradition - being united.

I am not that familiar with the projects you have mentioned but still, I agree with you about being united. Well, if it really calls to have a better result for both project team and bounty hunters. Our main goal is to help the quality projects to be successful so if it succeeds, we can have our rewards and the tokens will have value.

That is a good idea to be united and help each other when they have some problems even if we are not affected as the same problem could reach us as well. There are different telegram groups but it would be nice to have a big one, managed by hunters.

but there is no any union that will protect bounty hunters from fraudulent managers or developers. their actions are spontaneous.

There is no concrete steps in order to protect bounty participants. Sometimes they only care about getting rewards as soon as possible but bounty managers also don't warn them after end of bounty campaign, so both parties knew what was expected..

Yes you are right when it comes to fraudulent bounty mangers and projects
But it’s easy

We can expose every wrong doing on the platform and no one would participate in the bad projects by non paying bounty managers anymore

Hello, could you please tell me what happened with twogap?
I did french translation for their bounty campaign, and haven't received any token so far. Was it as scam?

I guess I don't see that bounty hunters have too much power, even collectively. If we don't get paid fairly, I'm not sure what we can do about it. Complain or boycott the project? Many bounty hunters would dump their tokens anyway so it doesn't hurt bounty managers to screw us over.

but the bounty hunter union must indeed have the power to report on a scam project, not just a union that gathers bounty hunters and only talks. The bounty hunter union must also have the strength that must be above the project itself so that the dev team will be afraid or at least think twice about committing fraud.

If one ICO successfully abuse the bounty hunters many ICO will follow, bounty hunters are also investors, some of them invest with their own money, so if they find out that they will not get paid, they will think twice investing because they are scamming bounty hunters  just like what happen to DESICO.

I also think all of us not just bounty hunters, also traders, investors, and crypto enthusiast would unite and get motivated to our individuals work. Being united makes us work for inspiration and maybe we could come up a better community here in bitcointalk.

and now much bounty hunter also become investors too.they trying get another profit by investing i promising projects.but some of them didnt pay bounty hunter after their ico success.or maybe postponed the distribution.

It is indeed a great move to unite as bounty hunters cos the dev are taking us for granted due to less concern altitude of ours as some complain and others support the project all in the name of reward , many project has refuse pay why some of hunters still talk in their favour and forget that they will end up same way their colleagues .
Financex is one of such project that reduce reward from 8.5mln token to 500k token after bounty end , while people got token worth of $20 for all work done for them , which is totally unacceptable , we need to unite and fight this together and if there is a group on telegram for us all to join in other to report such cases and project.

As a bounty hunter, it remains a positive thinking hunter, and there are other ways to produce. Being an investor and hunter is something that benefits both. Many ways to be able to produce in the crypto world. Unifying hunters is good and will have a community that has a good outlook.

Basically as we can see, bounty hunters do promote a project and at the same time, can bring the project down which is quite satisfying. Well, if we, bountu hunters will going to be aware of what we can do to a project then we will be safe in the market.

I agree with you, we have been working and not getting paid that we should have to ask what is our right.
I feel disappointed with Desico but now the project is getting karma for playing with us

working in bounty campaign have risk too.if investors invest their money to support the projcet.we also invest our time to working supporting these campaign getting succed.and its become their obligation to pay as their coin/token as reward.

there is a grain of truth in your words, unity really leads to good results, but the fact is that now it’s hard to bring people together, because many are frustrated and evil, if they are paid the majority, they will not support others (

Haven't heard about this projects will if you have concerns and issues of the bounty manager or project this forum is certainly a good way to speak up. I personally experienced a campaign and bounty manager bigotry who only cares about making money and not paying their participants properly.

We need at least to demand from the ICO teams to provide information on the basis of what regulatory act they require from bounty hunters to undergo a KYC check and what exactly is written about us. I very much doubt that any state was interested in the fact that bounty hunters, without investing in ICO projects, were tested by KYC. This is contrary to the purpose of such verification. Most likely, this is just a self-serving, deliberate initiative of ICO teams that violate our rights.

2018 alone has showed that devs and bounty managers takes bounty hunters for granted after helping them spreading words abouth there projects ,its so unfair ,I'm happy that bounty hunters are now united they will find it difficult to cheat or do anyhow with us now

Yes, I agree with that. We must united to create better result for all of us, don't wasting time support something without get anything. Now, developer knows what the best and need to do, they built safe system and built good communication with bounty hunter to know their opinion. I see if this thing keep continue I believe bounty hunter can become full time job.

Exactly, some projects are just really annoying they just come up from no where changing the rules that they didn't even tell the bounty participants about in the start, the fact is that if they told us from the beginning we are looking for work and would probably do but no, the wont say, just come up with different rules that are unfavorable to bounty hunters and if we ask about it we would get banned or be threatened out of our bounty rewards

After the fact of fraud on the part of the company that conducted the ICO is revealed, most of the bounty hunters simply remove it from their list of pending payments and forget it. Only a few of us write messages on the forum in profile topics with evidence of fraud of the project and make tweets and posts in social networks. So the choice is always bounty hunter, how he would react to the situation.

Most of bounty is done by multyaccs people. So they don't care and don't want to argue with bounty manager. Bounty manager usually on ICO side and if they decrease bounty or change time period they don't argue  with ICO team. So don't believe that bounty hunters will join together;)

when the market is filled with hundreds of newbies who are desperate to make some money, they will be abused because now even if a project is clearly a scam they will still gain advertisers. for example you can check out some of the scam signature campaigns that come up from time to time. people no longer force the starter to escrow the funds, you see a clear scam sig topic grow to 10 pages of newbies applying because they "hope" to earn some thing desperately.
and nothing can be done about it unless you find a way to flush this forum from newbies that are like that!

Bounty hunters should really unite. We do work they require religiously and we shouldn't be treated like we didn't support their project.

Correct, there must be unity.

It will be good if we can see some regulations on bounty, it will help bounty hunters to avoid scam projects.

I agree that some bounty campaigns have been very shaky and the participants efforts were not properly rewarded, BUT I think you will find in all campaigns the small print says that final decisions are up to the company in distribution and rewards. If an ICO fails then it is unlikely the bounty participants will get paid out, it's a fact of life.

We can avoid the scam bounties by getting united but how they are going to be united.
When most of the bounty Hunters are in the hurry of making money they are not going to make any deep research about the project that just going to join on any bounties this need to be changed.

That's how important reading everything and make a proper research before joining, there's a lots of such things happen around and even joining hands won't work that much, if a project is a scam it will not pay anything or if the project failed to gained investors trust and didn't collect enough funds there's no chance to get anything from the team, we should move forward and forget about it try finding another and still finding our luck for paying bounty.

Title should be "LEGIT Bounty hunters should remain united"  ;) since we are all aware that there are fraudulent ones out there that also forces these bounty projects to change rules to protect their coins/tokens getting into the hands of scam hunters.

that's right, I hope all hunters can unite to claim their rights, I see a lot of hunters being cheated by the team developers, many of them (hunters) who don't get paid as promised. hate to say this but a project that can't keep its promise I think it will not become success project

Projects like bosses make us a situation where we cannot tell anyone that I am losing money because of those projects, can only comfort myself with the right project next time. I'm glad to finish a project, because I think it's a blessing  ;D

It is difficult to get benefits in Cryptocurrency because the law still does not recognize this market and for everyone this is a market with many risks. For me all bounty hunters are workers and they deserve to receive rewards from ICO projects for what they have been working for 3-4 months. I hope that in the future everyone should choose a good project to participate in and should not participate in poor quality projects

Of course, Bounty hunters must unite in the fight against scammers. I am sure that victory will be for honest people.

Hm, and how has the situation with deex ended? Heard about it, but didn't watch attentively. Did they pay bounty hunters everything they should and everything was alright?

This is just a good thing, and maybe not, to whom the benefit is shared and all will cause unnecessary controversy and dispute in a community, I think if there is a hunter community There will be a lot of trouble  ???

Every country needs to make a strict regulations regarding with ICO for them to be able to comply the rewards for their bounty participants and there is also needs some strict rules for them to be able to cooperate and give the rewards for the hunters.. But the biggest question is WHO WILL GONNA DO THIS? It can't be stopped because if someone running an ICO will make an exit scam no one can stop them it is our loss..

Unity may be a good idea, but this may be difficult. We may know that we have been cheated by the scammers. Well, actually not only us, but also the investors that have bought the coins. In that case, unity can be a good solution if there is a news about the scam or unfair bounty rewards to minimize the bounty hunter lost.

And also needs to be patient.
I have seen a lot of bounty hunters rushing their payments just so they could sell "their hard earned tokens" (as they say it) in a rush.

Dumping the value of the project in just an instant aint good. Try to also support their project in an amount of time before selling it.

Maybe unity could also help to make it more known instead of dumping and leaving it just like that.

Bounty hunters look like someone who gets rewards in a easy way but little do they know that we bounty hubters sacrifice our time in order to do bounties. It's pretty lame at times when we bounty hunters doesn't get the credit and sometimes we are often not paid.

I think we need to unite and do media about these things, eliminating projects that do not distribute rewards to the bounty hunters, we will condemn those projects and their teams.

I don't understand what you say.
I think the bounty hunter must be prepared to accept the risks of each job. and if it is a bad manager or ico, you can discuss it with DT members, but with strong evidence

I think indeed the bounty hunter must unite in order to avoid cheating, the saying says "unite we are firm, we separate we fall apart"

I also think like you, I find most people an ideal and no one is the same to go along and create a good career for all, only a few people are good and they just think for themselves, no see who's out. And that makes greedy people, taking advantage of each other, I think  ::)

You usually find out that you got rekt after the bounty campaign is already finished and you've already invested time and effort in promoting their projects. It's sad that there are people taking advantage of others who just want to earn a few tokens.

I agree with you. There are too many projects created and many of them are scam projects. It is hard to realize what is a good project and what is a scam project. Therefore, we should create more topics to discuss and warn people about them.

yes, I agree with you, that indeed bounty hunters also work in doing their jobs to promote and they participate in convincing investors to be able to invest and support and make the project successful, I also do not like some teams some of the projects that do not consider bounty hunters did not participate in the success of the project, without a bounty hunter I thought the project would be difficult to achieve success, even though some projects also succeed without bounty hunters, so we as bounty hunters must remain united.

I agree with you, there have been a lot of projects lately that are giving up their responsibility to bounty hunters and not respecting their own established rules. Only cohesion can prevent making fools of hunters.

This area is all about money, it is just one big scam IMO. Everybody tries to take money and effort from community, the honesty is very rare trait here on the market of ICO. So I assume that it's better to admit this and keep in mind. Every newcomer who helps to every shitty project should understand that he's involved in kinda of a scam scheme. So the best thing we all can do is to study projects as tight as possible before get in.

I agree that Uniting as one is more effective than any other means of communication. But uniting is not enough if we as "Bounty Marketing Workers" is not setting aside our differences. Most of the time the Bounty Workers is not agree with each others point of views and the results is unfavorable and not solid to counter the new norms and settings created by ICO clients when doing Bounty Marketing Works.

I believe people are not believing in to their skills on finding good and potential projects, that is the reason they are engaging themselves into random projects which eventually impact into the entire community. Bringing some initiative against scam projects through this community will definitely make ICO industry beneficial for all of us. Due to few scam projects, entire ICO industry is getting suffered. We should not allow this should be continuing anymore but at the same time I'm not seeing any big initiatives on this yet.

When more bounty hunters are ignoring scammy devs and projects, I believe they could not find any survival method which will be leading to a healthy crypto environment in very near future. But, I'm not sure uniting all the bounty hunters will be possible because this is a free community and we cannot enforce anything unless otherwise there are some proper evidence against a project.

What is wrong with Deex? I can´t find any information, bounty is over, stakes are being calculated, everything looks good.

A few scam projects ICO ;D. For more than half year I received only 1/3 of my rewards. Many projects turned out to be scammers, others are procrastinate.

I agree. Scammers are also improving. Whatever the initiative, the community can not resist them in the current conditions.

There are much more projects that cheated bounty hunters.
But bounty hunters should forget about that, we are spending only our time and not money, liek ICO investors.

I have no doubts that the bounty hunters will remain united and nobody would stay calm if some project reduces the budget by x5 or will simply do not distribute anything. Keep going hunters, we will get our earned money!

Very good point. I had many disappointments with bounties.
Count on me if you need a warrior... :)

bounty hunters like us are really being suppressed. We don't have any value when the project is over. bounty manager, team devs often despise us. I really hate this and I will not continue to work anymore. All of the most potential projects will also become fraudulent projects and we will be unloaded but still not condemned!

I, like other users here, agree that it is necessary to share experiences with each other and indicate the fraud projects that we have identified. I heard about some of the projects that you indicated, and even participated in one of them, it was Twogap, just where did you get the idea that they were scammers? They are active on social networks, and I still hope that you are mistaken.

I personally experienced more than once that joint actions by bounty hunters can lead to incredible results. Whether it is teamwork or upholding our interests.

it's our responsibility to choose a bounty that the project is real and not a scam one to promote, but sometimes even a good project with a good team in their project change their term in the end of bounty campaign that give a disadvantage to bounty hunter those made bounty participant feel betrayed, so the unity of bounty hunter to prevent this from happening again is a must.

Yes we are spending time for bounty hunting and marketing  and it’s tome to ensure that our time are all appreciated
With unity, no one would dare to cheat or take advantage of bounty hunting
Never

Desico's reputation in the community is already ruined and those who will scam bounty hunters will have the same fate, but if you notice because of the market situation developers decided to pause their ICO or locked bounty hunters rewards which are not good in my opinion.

Yea bounty hunters need to actually stick together so they can prosper and also overcome some of the project managers that have come to ride on hunters

Bounty hunters would not remain united because they have never got united. Usually the bounty hunters asks for their coins on telegram channels and thats all. I was a bounty hunter between 2016-2018 and all i see that the projects and managers doesn't care about hunters. Too many projects never paid us or when we ask questions they did ban us from the telegrams. And if you work for a campaign today, at the end you canhave like $5-10 and if they pay you that. The bounty hunting bussiness has came to an end..

we must be more selective in choosing projects now to avoid things that can harm us. Seeing the prospect of the project and looking for information about it I think can overcome events such as fraud.

I totally agree, I have been out in the bounty scene last 2018 cause of the scam projects and now trying to get back in action.

I'm not defending scammers, but when we join bounty program we know the risk. If ICO do not reach softcap or turn in to scam, the true is that we can do nothing with that.
But I fully agree, that behaviors like Desico example should be pointed out by whole community to avoid similar scams in future.

My advice is to avoid bounty programs managed by red trusted and lazy managers, and also rule that allows managers to change the rules at any moment should be completely excluded.

Bounty hunters are treated, first of all, as free workers, and this is sad. However, the fact that having united, even if not always, but we can achieve justice, inspires me.

Is that true? If that happens it is a good thing for all of us to reduce the level of fraud in the ICO project, which at moment is a lot of scam project cases. Certainly, this is our task in dealing with problems that occur at ICO with special organizations to overcome this problem, then this is a solution to avoid scam projects. Some ICO projects cheat bounty hunters and do not pay for it, because developers are not responsible for what they do and this must be eliminated so that they keep up with what is a hunter bounty right.

Bounty hunters never ever can not get reward due to various reason for mostly project development also bounty manager fraudulent activities. Another reason is many project they do not pay ICO fail issue through you worked couple of weeks even i worked 6 months to 8 months only one project but they cheated with bounty hunters. In 2018 almost every project too much lengthy.

Great idea, but realization is hardy achievable unfortunately. Most bounty hunters don't bother to read this forum, and even if they wanted to, many of them don't speak English. Some time ago I proposed to demand 30% of the payment to be made in advance in BTC, not in tokens which can worth nothing shortly after appearance on exchanges, when 30% of the job was done, but later I realized that in case some people were doing that, projects would simply find others who agree with the proposed terms. I would be happy to be wrong on that though.

As a bounty hunter I personally check spreadsheets just to make sure there is no cheater  involved in an ongoing bounty program.I will also report cheaters to the manager and to the moderator if issues won't be solved. We are here because we want to help each other to make projects become successful and then we get paid. We should be vigilant and aware as cheaters are everywhere.

Some bounty hunters are still disappointed due to project scam there all efforts are totally wasted and some hunters scared to participate again.

There is a difference between the fact that the project will turn into a scam, and the fact that bounty hunters are scammed by the developer or bounty manager.
If you choose a project that turns into a scam, you're unlucky or just checked the project inaccurately.
If the bounty hunters were scammed by a developer or a bounty manager because they have significantly reduced the rewards or do not want to pay them at all, then we should unite and show the world what the real face of the people managing this project is.

We must also unite to not accept tokens anymore for bounty useless tokens and no value while we work hard for 3-5 months and still we cant convert it into money really disappointing to join bounty anymore we must be paid by a token with value or eth. 

There are many gift hunters who are traumatized by various Prize scams. Many Bounty projects do not provide tokens for various reasons. While bounty hunters have been working for a long time. Prize hunters must unite and together to fight fraud.

Many projects are changing decision at the last moment which is not good. If bounty hunters remain united such decision of dev can be reversed.
I joined one project named Globitex last year, after bounty is finished they reduced rewards to 1/4th and we could not do anything about it, there is one more project named "Opporty", bounty campaign of that projected finished last year but still they have not distributed the rewards although same has been calculated, also they are keeping 1 year lock in period for bounty hunters means you work today and you will get paid after 2 years, such teams are not good every bounty hunter should oppose such decision by dev team together.

yes, in some projects it really seems to have a positive affect when the bounty hunter hold together and put pressure. hopefully other ico projects will learn from it if they want to cheat their bounty hunters.  ::)

Bounty hunters have a huge influence on each project that holds a bounty programme. They can be very effective and make a great promotion campaign but if the team would try to cheat them, they can harm the project pretty ban and you should never try to trick hunters by paying them less that they deserved.

There were some of my friends who stopped as bounty hunters. One of their reasons is a lot of scam projects. They have worked hard to campaign for the project but ended with a scam. I agree with you, that bounty hunters must unite, one of which is to strengthen each other.

Basically they remain diverse as they are competitors to each others and I guess they should just need to unite if they are going to fight and take back from a fraud project and team on cryptocurrency bounty industry.

Yes, I agree that it would be nice to have some insurance for bounty hunters, something like a trade union. But it seems to me that it will be very difficult to do. In any case, will need a leader or several active participants who will take up this business and direct others.

The fact is that it is simply impossible to do otherwise. If all the participants in the bounty will tolerate deception, then in the future they will wipe their feet about us.Unity is Strength.One for all and all for one!-the motto of the participants of the bounty!

I agree with you, since increasingly, many managers are bounty of companies that allow themselves to fool the bounty hunter. Sometimes they just don't count the distribution by the specified amounts. Of course, you should not confuse bad ICO (fraudulent) and bad managers (fraud).

Unity is strength. I agree with you. We must always fight for our rights. If bounty hunters will unite, it may help to influence the developers and maybe they will to reckon with their opinion.

I believe if we stick together,  we can influence the decisions of bounty managers.  Bounty hunters are responsible for creating awareness and attracting investors into a project and we are the same people that can destroy a project if we agree to do so.

I think we need to create a telegram that can unite to all bounty hunters that we need to help each and everyone and to notice who is the scammer, spammed and those who wants to cheat. We need to unite because right now theirs are so many scam projects we need to know what is the legit project with the help of each of us.

I am happy to hear this news to stop fraud projects by bringing together bounty hunters in the community or telegrams to be able to share information about ICO and others. the road is very good and needs to be developed in the future, because if left by fraudsters there will be no end or end.

Everything need to be united if they have problems or issue they will resolve it.

Projects that fail will become garbage after summer. Bounty hunters will often forget it for a short time because they don't invest their money in the project. If the project is alive and does not pay the reward for the bounty hunter, we should unite to claim our rights.

This unity should also be geared toward participation in bounty campaigns
We should all see it as a point of duty to report scam whenever it is noticed. Either on spreadsheet, where cheaters come to steal other people's works or when a scam project or bounty is noticed, this should be reported promptly, so that others will not waste their time promoting scam projects.

To me bounty Hunters must be United because,
Firstly to stop scaming. If the bounty Hunters are United then we can easily claim our rights weather the project is scaming or not. Secondly if we are United then the number of scaming project will reduce. If we all stood against the. Bounty manager then he has no way but to pay.

Yes, if the bounty hunter stick together, that can do a lot. Nice to see that this can also lead to success and it makes icos pay for his bounty hunters. That is great!

I'm with you...

Let's spare FUD on their telegram group also on their social media account, this is an effective way to make their project broken and makes investor panic and cancel to invest in this project...

More FUD we can make, more difficult for them for growing their project...