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Title: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: DobriyVanya on January 22, 2019, 09:38:53 AM
I have a computer constantly connected to the network with free electricity. Of course, I could mine, but I have outdated hardware + I don't like the idea of ​​meaningless calculations.

I want, without investing my own funds, to support the ecosystem of any coin and receive currency for it. For example, my computer can contain the entire blockchain, verifying the history and current operations, saving the network from an attack of 51%.

Please, tell me about similar coins.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: BQ on January 22, 2019, 09:54:49 AM
I'm pretty sure your example there is exactly what mining is, just with the added functionality of actually "handling" new transactions.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: DobriyVanya on January 22, 2019, 09:57:37 AM
I'm pretty sure your example there is exactly what mining is, just with the added functionality of actually "handling" new transactions.

Mining consumes significantly more energy + more wear equipment.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: talkbitcoin on January 22, 2019, 09:58:15 AM
you can't have everything at the same time! you don't want to spend anything, you don't want to mine anything, and you don't want to work. but at the same time you want to earn, you want to mine and you want to protect against 51% attack?!!!

that is not possible.
you have to give something to receive something in return.
for example you have to spend your computing power and mine some coin to contribute to its hashing power and make 51% attacks harder.
or you have to invest your money and buy some altcoin to have a share of it to run a PoS node and earn stakes.

you can run a full node of some coin, like bitcoin full node and contribute to its network and increase the decentralization of it a small amount but you won't be earning anything.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: terrific on January 22, 2019, 09:58:17 AM
Can you indicate what are the specs of your computer?
Mining is your only way to earn coins if you don't want to invest.
Money doesn't grow without an investment unless you offer a service.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: SwiggHeart on January 22, 2019, 10:17:15 AM
Somehow, mining can be determined as an investment in the other word. Your mining rig will be on risk if you are mining whether your rig will be exploded due to overheat.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: DobriyVanya on January 22, 2019, 11:08:31 AM
you can't have everything at the same time! you don't want to spend anything, you don't want to mine anything, and you don't want to work. but at the same time you want to earn, you want to mine and you want to protect against 51% attack?!!!

that is not possible.
you have to give something to receive something in return.
for example you have to spend your computing power and mine some coin to contribute to its hashing power and make 51% attacks harder.
or you have to invest your money and buy some altcoin to have a share of it to run a PoS node and earn stakes.

you can run a full node of some coin, like bitcoin full node and contribute to its network and increase the decentralization of it a small amount but you won't be earning anything.

Thanks for the tips!
I see two tasks in front of the network:
1. To complicate the replacement of blocks (mining is used for this).
2. Contain full nodes.

I think that the wrong decision was chosen in Bitcoin, in which only miners receive a reward.

At this moment, I have two full node of Zcach and Monero, which loads all my 4 real cores of processor (i5-4690), uses 8GB memory, SSD- disk and high-speed Internet (~4 MB/sec). Perhaps there are coins, where it is at least somehow rewarded.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: Script3d on January 22, 2019, 12:16:53 PM
There's no free in this world buddy, if you want to earn you gotta invest something like money otherwise you won't get anything in return, if there is a way to earn without investing everyone would go for it.

you would want masternode if you want to earn without that much effort, while your holding your coins you also get more coins by holding possible more profit in the long run if you sell at higher price. 


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: karman383 on January 22, 2019, 12:25:13 PM
I am a little confused to answer your question, because you want to earn money without investing money. Actually you have done one way correctly, that is by mining. Well, I think there really isn't anything that is obtained for free without sacrifice. There might be another way to get free coins, that is by participating in bounties and airdrops. Thanks.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: DobriyVanya on January 22, 2019, 12:31:50 PM
I am a little confused to answer your question, because you want to earn money without investing money. Actually you have done one way correctly, that is by mining. Well, I think there really isn't anything that is obtained for free without sacrifice. There might be another way to get free coins, that is by participating in bounties and airdrops. Thanks.

There's no free in this world buddy, if you want to earn you gotta invest something like money otherwise you won't get anything in return, if there is a way to earn without investing everyone would go for it.

you would want masternode if you want to earn without that much effort, while your holding your coins you also get more coins by holding possible more profit in the long run if you sell at higher price. 

Why do you think that ONLY mining brings benefits to the network? On the contrary, I consider this a monkey- activity that damages our planet.

I have already written that I have two full nodes, and I bring this benefit.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: CryptoBuds on January 22, 2019, 01:16:14 PM
Let's rephrase your question: is there some way to make free money/crypto just with PC, free energy and without effort and investments? The answer is definitely no. Even if so and there is some way and some people except you know about it this way turns out to be outdated and it doesn't work anymore.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: dobolspeed2 on January 22, 2019, 01:20:40 PM
I have a computer constantly connected to the network with free electricity. Of course, I could mine, but I have outdated hardware + I don't like the idea of ​​meaningless calculations.

I want, without investing my own funds, to support the ecosystem of any coin and receive currency for it. For example, my computer can contain the entire blockchain, verifying the history and current operations, saving the network from an attack of 51%.

Please, tell me about similar coins.
I think if you want to invest without funds it is very difficult, even though electricity and network are free, hardware must support the running of minning.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: kkaroul4 on January 22, 2019, 01:22:41 PM
I'm pretty sure your example there is exactly what mining is, just with the added functionality of actually "handling" new transactions.

if I think the miner needs a lot of money to use to buy mining equipment, mining is like an investment but not the same and not willing to buy the tools too


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: bitcoin31 on January 22, 2019, 01:26:08 PM
If your electricity is free of course you can earn money through mining. Becaude the only things why the miner did not get high profit becaude of the electricity bill is higher than they get. Electricity is one of the bad why the mining is porfitbale to other country becaude the rate is high compared to other country. Anyway why you have free electricity do you have solar?


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: BitcoinHodler on January 22, 2019, 01:27:22 PM
I'm pretty sure your example there is exactly what mining is, just with the added functionality of actually "handling" new transactions.

if I think the miner needs a lot of money to use to buy mining equipment, mining is like an investment but not the same and not willing to buy the tools too

not really!
with lots of different altcoins with different levels of difficulty and all kinds of algorithems you can always find something to mine with the computer that you already have. if you are a gamer then you already have a strong GPU capable of producing a decent hashrate. so there is no additional "investment" involved.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: OluwaTosin10 on January 22, 2019, 01:45:05 PM
I have a computer constantly connected to the network with free electricity. Of course, I could mine, but I have outdated hardware + I don't like the idea of ​​meaningless calculations.

I want, without investing my own funds, to support the ecosystem of any coin and receive currency for it. For example, my computer can contain the entire blockchain, verifying the history and current operations, saving the network from an attack of 51%.

Please, tell me about similar coins.

i think you have to give something before you can aim to earn. WHy ? because for every reward there is a task,
Few projects are making a type of mining system where you have to use their mobile application to mine for their token.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: 5thFear on January 22, 2019, 01:50:18 PM
With free electricity, the first thing that comes to mind is mining, and if you are not interesting in mining then shut the computer down, it will save the wear and tear of the hardware.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: Saint1990 on January 22, 2019, 01:50:23 PM
I have a computer constantly connected to the network with free electricity. Of course, I could mine, but I have outdated hardware + I don't like the idea of ​​meaningless calculations.

I want, without investing my own funds, to support the ecosystem of any coin and receive currency for it. For example, my computer can contain the entire blockchain, verifying the history and current operations, saving the network from an attack of 51%.

Please, tell me about similar coins.

Why don't you participate in Quarkchain Test-net 2.0 mining campaign, Quarkchain adopts 3 different type of mining algorithm as follows
1) Ethash
2) Double SHA256
3) QKChash which is ASIC resistant & developed by Quarchchain founder Qi Zhou to mine testnet coins on CPU.

They have allocated total prize pool of 5,000,000 QKC for Testnet 2.0 Mining event, which will be distributed to miners after the mainnet launch which scheduled on 31st March 2019.

For detail information about the event check this article https://medium.com/quarkchain-official/quarkchain-announces-official-launch-of-testnet-2-0-mining-8d16c9cd83ef


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: Pffrt on January 22, 2019, 01:52:40 PM
Without investing, I think you can not make it a revenue generating system. I suggest you to use PoS staking to have some profit. It requires some investment. Find out a good one which is giving good rewards and stake it. You will get good profit.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: kikoy999 on January 22, 2019, 01:53:54 PM
I'm pretty sure your example there is exactly what mining is, just with the added functionality of actually "handling" new transactions.

Mining consumes significantly more energy + more wear equipment.

That's correct! if people know yout sites they will not buy miners if your methods are working and don't waste a huge money for investing in minings.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: digitalblock on January 22, 2019, 01:56:49 PM
With the help of your computer, especially in the current situation, you will earn almost nothing. Many have refused mining farms because they do not see any profit in it.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: Desscount on January 22, 2019, 02:06:37 PM
I have a computer constantly connected to the network with free electricity. Of course, I could mine, but I have outdated hardware + I don't like the idea of ​​meaningless calculations.

I want, without investing my own funds, to support the ecosystem of any coin and receive currency for it. For example, my computer can contain the entire blockchain, verifying the history and current operations, saving the network from an attack of 51%.

Please, tell me about similar coins.


First, you must have expertise in this industry. You have to know, without investing with money, you can't get something that makes money. unless you have the ability and expertise that can make money. and you have to explore and research it from now on


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: EL-NIDO on January 22, 2019, 02:13:36 PM
Another possibility to earn coins without investing money is by participating in bounties like signature campaigns, social media works in facebook,
twitter or making translations. Mining means also investing money in mining equipment and electricity.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: ropyu1978 on January 22, 2019, 02:16:58 PM
you can't have everything at the same time! you don't want to spend anything, you don't want to mine anything, and you don't want to work. but at the same time you want to earn, you want to mine and you want to protect against 51% attack?!!!

that is not possible.
you have to give something to receive something in return.
for example you have to spend your computing power and mine some coin to contribute to its hashing power and make 51% attacks harder.
or you have to invest your money and buy some altcoin to have a share of it to run a PoS node and earn stakes.

you can run a full node of some coin, like bitcoin full node and contribute to its network and increase the decentralization of it a small amount but you won't be earning anything.


I agree
there are many people who want to find ways to get profits or money without investing money or expertise, especially experience. of course that is not possible
The OP wants income but does not have the knowledge, experience or try to research, and especially does not issue funds such as mining equipment. because he doesn't like it. and the answer is impossible


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: nebuch on January 22, 2019, 02:19:18 PM
I am really amaze for you! Really wow!  :D
Your such a lucky person who consumes electricity for free. Mining needs your proper mindset and proper ideas to deal this matter.
As what the market condition now, I suggest to analyze and study every move you want to make for your mining and also hunting good and profitable campaigns.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: cudora on January 22, 2019, 02:21:50 PM
Unfortunately there is nothing you can do with your hardware to earn money. But you can join different bounty campaigns to earn the projects tokens and exchange them into ETH or BTC. On a later date, you can invest your earned money and begin staking.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: bboyjohn on January 22, 2019, 02:37:23 PM
Unfortunately there is nothing you can do with your hardware to earn money. But you can join different bounty campaigns to earn the projects tokens and exchange them into ETH or BTC. On a later date, you can invest your earned money and begin staking.

It is very difficult to make money with bounty campaigns. The only thing to make money with crypto coins without investing in bounty campaigns, is that money earned with these campaigns is unfortunately only a few dollars. This money does not satisfy anyone :D


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: Warkop on January 22, 2019, 02:57:41 PM
With the help of your computer, especially in the current situation, you will earn almost nothing. Many have refused mining farms because they do not see any profit in it.

Yes, maybe that is very visible for now, but if he survives in the current situation, I am sure maybe he will continue to complain about what he is doing now and it is just a waste of time. I think it's better to leave the time you waste and it's time to become a bounty hunter at the ICO project and of course you will get a little results.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: Ferris419 on January 22, 2019, 03:54:36 PM
Some Bitcoin faucet website available, they are giving free bitcoin. But the amount is so low. You can start mining via mobile apps which name is "Electroneum". Electroneum is good I think for mobile miner.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: shad_ow90 on January 23, 2019, 05:00:07 AM
I have a computer constantly connected to the network with free electricity. Of course, I could mine, but I have outdated hardware + I don't like the idea of ​​meaningless calculations.

I want, without investing my own funds, to support the ecosystem of any coin and receive currency for it. For example, my computer can contain the entire blockchain, verifying the history and current operations, saving the network from an attack of 51%.

Please, tell me about similar coins.

What you are describing is similar to staking form of Masternode coins. But you also need a necessary coins to join in. Some coins like this such as Snode Coin, Cryptrade(CRCO) and so on


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: Abosede on January 23, 2019, 06:50:56 AM
Why do you think you should reap where you did not sow,you need to sow to reap,you can't just earn a coin without hiving something,one of the reason why people re been scam is because many want to earn without giving out and they end up in scammers hand.If you want to earn without investing,I will advice you to participate in bounty campaign.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: paxaway21 on January 23, 2019, 06:55:36 AM
As a bounty hunter you can earn free coins by joining signature or social media campaigns that project will give you if you gonna work for them.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: vasilev456 on January 23, 2019, 06:59:51 AM
I think that this is not possible, you have to seriously search the Internet to find what you are interested in, but still I do not think that you will achieve success!


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: joseyphil82 on January 23, 2019, 07:11:05 AM
I haven't seen any coin or token that can do what you want without investing a dime ,you are better off continue mining since you are using free electricity ,to even run a full master node for a POS coin you will still spend a lot on servers engine and have lots quantity of the POS coin


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on January 23, 2019, 07:17:26 AM
If your electricity is free of course you can earn money through mining.
That's not enough reason to start mining.

Calculate also the cost of buying a miner and that depends on the coin that he wants to mine. Looks like his computer is too old enough and the potential coins that he can mine with that are those not so popular coins. And since he's not willing to invest, at least he has free electricity.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: djuragan on January 23, 2019, 07:24:47 AM
If you were looking for some free coins, perhaps you could just join into an airdrop or a bounty campaign. at the end of the ICO you will get your free coins without having you to spend any of your money.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: TopT3ns on January 23, 2019, 07:34:53 AM
As a bounty hunter you can earn free coins by joining signature or social media campaigns that project will give you if you gonna work for them.
I think what OP means is about he  not do anything and get coins  ;D, Maybe staking is the answer but OP must have certain amount coin that have POS and he can stake it in his computer. Of course it must me online 24 hrs.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: Bountyl on January 23, 2019, 07:52:28 AM
If you really want to earn money and not simply play cricket, then you will not earn anything without investing and even not just a few bucks. For serious earnings, you need serious money, but simply earn a few dollars, then go to normal work.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: ereborltc on January 23, 2019, 10:41:20 AM
I have a computer constantly connected to the network with free electricity. Of course, I could mine, but I have outdated hardware + I don't like the idea of ​​meaningless calculations.

I want, without investing my own funds, to support the ecosystem of any coin and receive currency for it. For example, my computer can contain the entire blockchain, verifying the history and current operations, saving the network from an attack of 51%.

Please, tell me about similar coins.
There is almost no such coin, and now I want to make a profit, I have to make an investment, and there is no free lunch.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: defoman on January 23, 2019, 11:12:33 AM
You want too much at the same time. But you will not be able to protect the network by yourself. You can only become one of the people who contribute to the maintenance of the network of any coin. Since you do not want to engage in mining, then you will approach one of the POS coins. But in order to get POS coins, you need to buy a certain amount of them and keep them in your wallet.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: No Pain No blood on January 23, 2019, 11:15:51 AM
I don't think there is, all investments must use money. even for bounty hunters it also costs money.
if you really don't have money to produce, it's better to be a bounty hunter. but keep in mind you must have patience and free time to complete all tasks.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: tonibyuzen on January 23, 2019, 11:21:09 AM
You should first learn more information about cryptocurrency before writing such. It is impossible to get something for free. Even if you decide for the best of intentions to maintain the network of one of the coins, you need to freeze on your wallet a certain number of them. And to get these coins, you need to earn them in bounty/airdrop or buy. Moreover, I don't understand how you are going to protect a coin from attacks of 51%.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: odukoyaewatomi27 on January 23, 2019, 12:04:23 PM
You can upgrade you computer and start mining because it's the best way to earn without investing. In mining you are literally printing your own money. You can also consider other options like bounties or airdrop but you will have to invest your time in doing them.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: Fredomago on January 23, 2019, 12:10:03 PM
With the help of your computer, especially in the current situation, you will earn almost nothing. Many have refused mining farms because they do not see any profit in it.
that's right mining isn't profitable as you will be needed to pay for electric bills with a small amount of mine coins, most of the time it won't breakeven
you will just risking your device reason why most of miners are quitting and some of them are temporary been stop while the value of each coins ain't
favorable and profitable to them.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: raven7886 on January 23, 2019, 04:54:57 PM
I have a computer constantly connected to the network with free electricity. Of course, I could mine, but I have outdated hardware + I don't like the idea of ​​meaningless calculations.

I want, without investing my own funds, to support the ecosystem of any coin and receive currency for it. For example, my computer can contain the entire blockchain, verifying the history and current operations, saving the network from an attack of 51%.

Please, tell me about similar coins.
Not doing "anything" is always impossible, there is nothing that gives you free coins. If you are looking to get free money from airdrops you need to get that yourself, which is not "free" but quite close, if you want bounty that means you are looking to work for the coins instead of buy those coins, which means you value your time less then you value your money which is alright for some people specially in third world countries but not for everyone.

If you are looking for staking that requires money which is not nothing, you basically invest your money into that coin and hope you will make a return from it. Basically no matter what you do there is no "free" money, you always either spend your money, your time or your effort for some returns and they all cost, maybe not money but they all cost something.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: ivaf on January 23, 2019, 06:44:46 PM
I have a computer constantly connected to the network with free electricity. Of course, I could mine, but I have outdated hardware + I don't like the idea of ​​meaningless calculations.

I want, without investing my own funds, to support the ecosystem of any coin and receive currency for it. For example, my computer can contain the entire blockchain, verifying the history and current operations, saving the network from an attack of 51%.

Please, tell me about similar coins.

No, man, that just won't work out. One computer and free electricity is not enough.
What you say is called a node or masternode. And to launch such a node, you first need to buy a certain amount of coins. And if you want to get a good reward, then you will have to buy more expensive coins and in large quantities.
Freebies are not here.


Title: Re: There are coins with earnings without investing money?
Post by: Tstar on January 23, 2019, 08:30:41 PM
I have a computer constantly connected to the network with free electricity. Of course, I could mine, but I have outdated hardware + I don't like the idea of ​​meaningless calculations.

I want, without investing my own funds, to support the ecosystem of any coin and receive currency for it. For example, my computer can contain the entire blockchain, verifying the history and current operations, saving the network from an attack of 51%.

Please, tell me about similar coins.

There is no free lunch. You can't expect to get something without giving something.

One of the cheapest option I can suggest you is to run Horizen Secure Node. Check here for more information https://www.horizen.global/securenodes/. While Super Node requires 500 ZEN, Secure Node require just 42 ZEN.